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Date:      Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:45:53 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: updating rdist 
Message-ID:  <200011111546.eABFk7X04664@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 11 Nov 2000 03:59:05 PST." <20001111035905.A82574@dragon.nuxi.com> 

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In message <20001111035905.A82574@dragon.nuxi.com>, "David O'Brien" 
writes:
> I have just committed a `44bsd-rdist' port.
> So the question is, do we totally remove `rdist' from the base system,
> or update it to rdist 6.1.5?

The rdist port fails to fetch.

In a heterogeneous environment with only 6.1.5 shipped in the base 
system we can only support rdist with Linux.  With 44bsd-rdist we can 
support rdist with other UNIX systems like Solaris, Tru64-UNIX, etc.  I 
would rather have no rdist and have the option of picking the one I 
need rather than have the bloat of an rdist that I will not use in a 
particular situation.  (I would rather have an rdist that is compatible 
with the other 100+ Solaris and Tru64-UNIX systems I manage and the 50+ 
AIX systems our AIX team manages.)

Now that it's in ports I perceive (please correct me if my perception 
is wrong) that less attention to security and bug fixing might be paid 
to rdist.  Or do we have a commitment that the port will be maintained 
with as much attention as any software in the base system?

Since we now have a 44bsd-rdist port, why don't we maintain it like we 
did the OpenSSH port:  Check it out of the OpenBSD or NetBSD CVS 
repositories.  Then again both rdists could be in contrib (bad for 
bloat, otherwise less work for those of us installing new systems) and 
checked out of OpenBSD or NetBSD on a periodic basis.

On to another idea and another tangent:  Why not leave both rdists in 
ports and have sysinstall ask the user whether 44bsd-rdist (compatible 
with most vendors UNIX systems), rdist6 (compatible with Linux), and/or 
rsync be installed.

Enough new ideas for thought.  Once again my burning question, will we 
pay as much attention to the 44bsd-rdist port as we did rdist in the 
base?  And for my preference:  If it has to be gone out of the base, 
then no rdist in the base.  Let the user decide which version to 
install.  (If I was managing 100+ Linux systems rather than 100+ Suns & 
Alphas my preference would obviously be biased differently).


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC





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