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From: Chris Rees <crees@FreeBSD.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:40:04 +0100
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On 14 April 2013 01:41, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@felyko.com> wrote:
> 2013/04/13 16:01、Scott Long <scott4long@yahoo.com> のメッセージ:
>
>> Maybe something else, but whatever it is, it should be done.  If you and Gleb don't want to do this, I will.
>
> I already started writing a guide. See here for a very incomplete version:
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~rpaulo/ipf-deprecation/article.html

If you're really serious about deprecating ipf, we absolutely have to
remove instructions for it from the Handbook as soon as possible;
every time a new user comes across instructions you're going to have
yet another annoyed party.

http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/patches/remove-ipf.diff

Chris