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Date:      Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:38:38 -0400
From:      "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
To:        "Paul Robinson" <paul@akita.co.uk>
Cc:        "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>, "Marius Strom" <marius@marius.org>, <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly
Message-ID:  <000f01c12020$317e5610$0d00a8c0@alexus>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0108080025430.26258-100000@workhorse.iMach.com> <017901c1201b$3e178860$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20010808163139.B29584@jake.akitanet.co.uk>

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I appreciate everyone who was trying to help me, i'm going try to post my
question on different mailing lists

thanks again, if someone would come up with any suggestions please send me
an email:)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Robinson" <paul@akita.co.uk>
To: "alexus" <ml@db.nexgen.com>
Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@imach.com>; "Marius Strom"
<marius@marius.org>; <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly


> On Aug  8, alexus <ml@db.nexgen.com> wrote:
>
> > I disagree, I'm a little ISP and my users can't use 2nd ip for their
irc,
> > thats why i'm here asking this question and this is not a user related
> > problem, this is definatly not. I already tryed 3 different clients so
this
> > is isn't software issue at least not irc client software
>
> OK, I've been watching this thread from afar, and this is just on the very
> tip of a flamewar because the people on this list have exhausted their
ideas
> and because you're frustrated at not being able to solve your problem. So,
> let's recap a few points here:
>
> - You have helpfully supplied a large amount of information regarding your
> problem, and many of us have looked at it. Some people have offered
> suggestions and work-arounds.
>
> - You have tried the workarounds and much more besides but it's still not
> working. You've tried different IRC client software and it still has the
> same problem.
>
> - You've tried different IRC servers (which is in the domain of something
we
> are likely to understand on this list), and it still doesn't work.
>
> - You maintain that FreeBSD must be b0rked because none of the suggested
> workaround work for you. This is a sensible suggestion, and perhaps with
> your particular hardware might be indeed true.
>
> - We maintain it's not, because we have very similar/identical
> configurations all over the world, and we know IP aliases work fine on our
> sites. We really can't think what is causing the hassles.
>
> - We know about running ISPs, but we're not au fait with the internals of
> the stack because we didn't write it, therefore, perhaps we're not the
best
> people to ask when it comes to stack internals (which is where I think the
> problems may lie).
>
> So, in other words, because this is not a problem discussing third-party
or
> FreeBSD software specifically from the point of view of an ISP server-side
> environment, we're a little at a loss as to what to suggest when it comes
to
> what would appear to be a strange bug in the stack somewhere. However, I
> suspect the guys on -net will be able to work it out far quicker, and if
you
> do find the solution, you might want to follow up to this thread and let
us
> know (for those of us who don't track -net).
>
> So, let's not get into a huff about this - we're as frustrated that we
don't
> know the answer as you are. However, on our kit it works, and on your kit
it
> doesn't, so the stack hackers at -net will probably look forward to
hearing
> from you.
>
> Apologies if I'm sending this "out of step" or stepping on people's toes,
> but I agree that I think it's about time we looked to wrap this one up
over
> here on -isp, with the possible exception of alexus getting back to us to
> let us know what the fix was.
>
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