From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 8 10:25:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113AF106566B; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7289D8FC12; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p98APG57056262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Oct 2011 11:25:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p98APG57056262 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1318069516; bh=GYYyT3Po2+cmU9LnsRR7wRs7RYa9kKvAlUvi7P7WZQc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E902503.2000703@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2008=20Oct=202011=2011:25:07=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:7.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110929=20Thunderbird/7.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Jeremy=20Cha dwick=20|CC:=20Chris=20Rees=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20Stable=20List=20,=0D=0A=20Aryeh=20Friedman=20| Subject:=20Re:=20BETA3=20not=20buildable|References:=20=20 =20<20111008022526.GA99357@icarus.home.lan>=20=20<20111008094302 .GA6027@icarus.home.lan>|In-Reply-To:=20<20111008094302.GA6027@ica rus.home.lan>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C |Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"-- ----------enig7B422CD5E34232A40A5A99BE"; b=GkGHSy97nvrtVFWqDm/wrUod1I0fVa0WdkUShDzTqQCdPNfHUpAHX1LOkNFP/FDEb x+UljRcQSxDIEKwP9AAJ/OpFKzm+i25OafvLafQAiAS2HwKGq3rgS9FxF80O03ilPF u4z0RqYiXczyXYyNTw93PgxeLOo/Xikhi+12957I= Message-ID: <4E902503.2000703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:25:07 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <20111008022526.GA99357@icarus.home.lan> <20111008094302.GA6027@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20111008094302.GA6027@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7B422CD5E34232A40A5A99BE" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Chris Rees , Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: BETA3 not buildable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 10:25:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7B422CD5E34232A40A5A99BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/10/2011 10:43, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > 175 STARTTIME!=3D LC_ALL=3DC date > 176 CHECK_TIME!=3D find ${.CURDIR}/sys/sys/param.h -mtime -0s > 177 .if !empty(CHECK_TIME) > 178 .error check your date/time: ${STARTTIME} > 179 .endif > 180 > > The OP is using HEAD (or maybe RELENG_9? [1]), but I would hope the sam= e > check above would be in that tags' src/Makefile. Now I'm rambling > again. Yep. Still there, although now at line 216 in stable/9. > [1]: I assume that's been tagged; I wouldn't know, as it'll be a long > time before I dare try 9.0, for tons of reasons which I'm not going to > go into here since they're off-topic (simple version: way, way too many= > bugs in the installer, and bugs like kern/160860 scare the living crap > out of me to the point where I don't dare touch it). Correct. stable/9 has been branched in SVN, and there's a RELENG_9 branch in CVS. Lots of the infrastructure for the new branch is in place, but there's still plenty of work to do -- for instance, there isn't an INDEX-9 file available for ports yet. The experience of installing and running stable/9 is much smoother than you might think given your comments. Certainly it is not ready for prime-time yet, but it's looking pretty good so far. What the project needs now is as much testing as possible, so that bugs can be detected and fixed before the release. Which means running up a copy of 9.0-BETA3 on scratch hardware or in a VM and trying out your favourite applications in an environment where you can afford for it all to go horribly wrong without spoiling your whole day. That's asking for significant time and effort from people and anyone that can manage to do so will receive no reward other than good karma. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig7B422CD5E34232A40A5A99BE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6QJQsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzVMgCaA3hIzSkfffTj7Tq851s5IoJA LOUAn0nq3KaVPFqYkCB9JHwxZ/OWboHm =xcp1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7B422CD5E34232A40A5A99BE--