From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 26 13:49:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF3837B417 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id g2QLmVD02387; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:48:31 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020326142957.A3519@math.uic.edu> References: <20020323002608.B20699@rain.macguire.net> <3C9C84CF.2090300@flash.net> <20020323084327.A354@rain.macguire.net> <3C9DF87D.5050306@cream.org> <20020326142957.A3519@math.uic.edu> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 X-Message-Flag: Outlook : A program to spread viri via e-mail. Try Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/), mutt (http://www.mutt.org/), or pine (http://www.washington.edu/pine/). But please, get something other than Outlook. Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:44:26 +0100 To: Vladimir Egorin , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2:29 PM -0600 2002/03/26, Vladimir Egorin wrote: > > The problem is that he is generally totally fscking clueless (at > > least on all the topics with which I am familiar), and his > > whacked-out ideas of how things should be done are non-solutions to > > non-problems, and he simply doesn't understand what the real problems > > are. > > Brad, > > You are making a very general statement. Such statements are usually > blind and unfair. I won't comment on Prof. Bernstein's abilities as > a programmer or his character, but in the areas of his direct expertise > (mathematics) he is very good. I am saying this as his former > colleague and student. Please note that I added a parenthetical comment "at least on all topics with which I am familiar". I do not profess to be an expert in cryptography, although it is a subject with which I have some interest. I do not pretend to be able to analyze Snuffle or any other cryptographic work that he has done, but I can read the writings of other respected cryptographers (such as Bruce Schneier). Specifically in the areas of Internet e-mail (especially the SMTP protocol) and DNS, it is my firm belief that Dan is one of the biggest menaces on the 'net, and he, his ideas, his code, and his disciples pose a direct threat to the very existence of the 'net -- it all depends on how many people he tricks into becoming his initiates. -- Brad Knowles, Do you hate Microsoft? Do you hate Outlook? Then visit the Anti-Outlook page at and see how much fun you can have. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message