From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 21 01:18:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6B2106566B; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@phoronix.com) Received: from phx1.phoronix.com (173.192.77.202-static.reverse.softlayer.com [173.192.77.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3263C8FC13; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from palm-64-28-152-131.palm.com ([64.28.152.131] helo=LT740055CZ0L1.palm1.palmone.com) by phx1.phoronix.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdAot-0007Xv-N9; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:18:11 -0600 Message-ID: <4EF133D0.4050800@phoronix.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:18:08 -0800 From: Matthew Tippett User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111214 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O. Hartmann" References: <4EE1EAFE.3070408@m5p.com> <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4EF10088.1010409@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4EF10088.1010409@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - phx1.phoronix.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - phoronix.com Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, Current FreeBSD , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , Jeremy Chadwick , Igor Mozolevsky Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:18:14 -0000 For such a system, the greatest immediate value would be to attempt to reproduce the benchmarks in question. Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suite.com or freshports.org. Run the benchmark against those used in the article phoronix-test-suite benchmark 1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37 You will be asked to push the comparison up to openbenchmarking at the end. Matthew On 12/20/2011 01:39 PM, O. Hartmann wrote: > On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: >> Interestingly, while people seem to be (arguably rightly) focused on >> criticising Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an alternative >> benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is important to >> benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered any >> numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, or any other "real >> world"-application torture tests done on the aforementioned two >> platforms... IMO, this just goes to show that "doing is hard" and >> "criticising is much easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony involved in >> making this statement, but someone has to!) >> >> >> Cheers, >> Igor M :-) > Unfortunately, M. Larabel is the only one who's performing benchmarks on > FreeBSD, comparing its performance to the Linux-opponents. Adn indeed, > there is a lot of criticism, but no alternative. > I said unfortunately - not offensive - since Larabel and Phoronix are > sadly the only ones who do actually such bechmarking. > > It would be much more nicer and kind to support those people. > > Well, in January/February we get new hardware. One box is supposed to do > number crunching via 12 cores and a TESLA GPU. My colleague is > developing a high parallelized peice of software for satellite data > transformation. The software package is CPU bound, partially GPU, but > massively memory hungry (96 to 128 GB RAM is needed). > What I can offer is, since I will also work on that machine and I've > free hand to administer, in the spare time of doing my PhD, installing > FreeBSD 9.0/10.0 besides SuSe Linux and looking forward having one ZFS > data storage drive for homes, so both systems can perform on a most > recent ZFS. I'm new to Linux, not a BSD guru, nor I'm a professional > programmer/developer. My skills are sufficient for the daily scientific > work. So, without pressure, I'm willing to perform some HPC benchmarks > under advice if the day comes and those interested in bare numbers of > FreeBSD vs. Linux performance with a real-world-scientific application. > > I would appreciate to see some of the developers and/or FreeBSD hackers > to help Phoronix setting up a proper testenvironment instead of bashing > M. Larabel and his fellows. > > Regards, > Oliver >