From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 13 23:01:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9526D16A404; Sun, 13 May 2007 23:01:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls405.t-com.hr (ls405.t-com.hr [195.29.150.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FF613C455; Sun, 13 May 2007 23:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [195.29.150.237]) by ls405.t-com.hr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B241450C4; Mon, 14 May 2007 01:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [127.0.0.1]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 2ACC8D5004A; Mon, 14 May 2007 01:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ls248.t-com.hr (ls248.t-com.hr [127.0.0.1]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 15B77D50047; Mon, 14 May 2007 01:01:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-Sender-Info: g5URFa92gX9K/Rg9VFA/rAl+cNvCKJBJAbKY1Urjd886StkSH1j7CT0zJW9WjWDV X-Envelope-Sender: ivoras@fer.hr Received: from [10.0.0.100] (78-1-78-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr [78.1.78.250]) by ls248.t-com.hr (Qmali) with ESMTP id D804D5E0035; Mon, 14 May 2007 01:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464798C2.8030307@fer.hr> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 01:01:22 +0200 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein References: <20070512153532.GQ21795@elvis.mu.org> <63984.1178992555@critter.freebsd.dk> <20070513215442.GZ21795@elvis.mu.org> <46478C9A.9050807@fer.hr> <20070513225031.GC21795@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <20070513225031.GC21795@elvis.mu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.3.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig77AFB0240F6938A482732EC6" Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS DOWN X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:01:26 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig77AFB0240F6938A482732EC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Ivan Voras [070513 15:12] wrote: >> Even if it's forbidden by POSIX or other standards, FreeBSD isn't >> popular enough to be one of the systems that don't support it. >=20 > I don't know about that, for the longest time Linux's "fsync" > call was async because it was "faster", I'd not like to compete > on those terms. Worse is not better. Of course not, but I dragged out an example where the implementation could handle a situation, but chose not to (any that only in certain cases) in the name of standards compliance. I consider this wrong because the "lenient" behaviour is a superset of required one, and in any case the choice shouldn't be made based on uid. In short, "beware of arbitrary standards' compliance" :) --------------enig77AFB0240F6938A482732EC6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGR5jCldnAQVacBcgRAiaLAKDHRMsHhWkxCCpON53jGOQZtNenygCgvxx/ GARRNz2TVAK/X7vAD+0fpi4= =Dhyh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig77AFB0240F6938A482732EC6--