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Date:      Tue, 9 Feb 2016 10:10:18 -0553.75
From:      "William A. Mahaffey III" <wam@hiwaay.net>
To:        FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removing documentation
Message-ID:  <56BA0E20.3080706@hiwaay.net>
In-Reply-To: <CA%2BE3k922a91bsx1gh=pcx4S7q_L%2BeR=ezbdWZ6HaimmGqjX=BA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 02/09/16 09:56, Royce Williams wrote:
> IMO, this entire thread is masking a deeper symptom: FreeBSD
> ports/packages management is fragmented.
>
> Each unofficial tool treats some symptoms well, and others poorly.
> The fact that I have to use the phrase "ports/packages" is indicative
> of a deep schizophrenia.
>
> Don't get me wrong -- I love the flexibility of choosing a package or
> a port.  And I'm all for having choices.  But people should not be
> choosing ways to manage core software management functions.
>
> Ideally, users could choose among different UIs/wrappers around the
> core of a port/package management system.  The things that each tool
> has to do -- the database of current installs, dependency management,
> etc. -- should not be reinvented by each tool.  They should be shared
> infrastructure that is part of the OS (like Debian's dpkg/apt system).
>
> A unified framework:
>
> * would make it easy for small-scale admins to install basic packages
> with sane defaults
>
> * would resolve dependencies sanely
>
> * would allow software maintainers to capture the manual steps
> currently stored in /usr/ports/UPDATING, and apply them in an
> automated/guided fashion
>
> * would support building and distributing your own packages
>
> * would be part of the base OS and documented accordingly
>
>
> Until this fragmentation is resolved , we'll be having this discussion
> every few months, users will keep shooting themselves in the foot ...
> and keep being incented to go elsewhere.
>
> We need to capture users' reasons for preferring specific frameworks,
> and build a roadmap to how they could be unified.
>
> Royce
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*Huzzah* !!!! I hereby 2nd that motion (from the cheap seats) :-) ....


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	William A. Mahaffey III

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