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Date:      Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:44:55 -0800
From:      "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
To:        "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, "Doug Barton" <Doug@gorean.org>
Cc:        <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: The Merger, and what will its effects be on committers?
Message-ID:  <005601bf8f2c$4939f010$021d85d1@youwant.to>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000315174932.03efa380@localhost>

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> At 05:41 PM 3/13/2000 , Doug Barton wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Brett Glass wrote:
> >
> > > No; the FreeBSD Project should do exactly the same thing.
> Anyone should
> > > be able to call their product FreeBSD;
> >
> >         This one statement alone shows that you are a complete
> >crack-smoker and not to be taken seriously.
>
> I see. In that case, I take it that you believe that only Walnut Creek
> should be able to use the name "FreeBSD" in a product name?
>
> --Brett

	As I see it, you really have no grounds for complaint until one of two
things happens:

	1) You ask to call something specific 'FreeBSD' (more likely some variant,
like 'Brett's FreeBSD' or 'FreeBSD Glass') and are refused. We can then
evaluate whether the specific instance is fair or not.

	2) You draft a set of sensible rules for the use of the trademark and their
adoption is refused. We can then evaluate whether the rules you suggest are
sensible or not and whether their rejection is reasonable. (For the record,
all the rule fragments you have suggested so far seem to me to be
unreasonable.)

	Until you do either of these, you will be at a permanent stalemate. Nobody
is going to (nor should they) grant you blanket permission to use their
trademark with no particulars at all. The only reason you have any desire to
associate the FreeBSD name with your distribution is because of the immense
value the name has. This value is a direct result of the fact that nobody
can slap together any ratbag assortment of pieces and call it 'FreeBSD'.

	DS



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