From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 21 22:48:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0191C1065672; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7998FC12; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:48:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bms@incunabulum.net) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC310374EF1; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:07 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: hashDleOHiqv5le2lQ588AkQpJ7yBqWIdum7rp0Xue3i 1245624487 Received: from [192.168.123.18] (82-35-112-254.cable.ubr07.dals.blueyonder.co.uk [82.35.112.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF54D1F5BA; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4A3EB89E.3010503@incunabulum.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:47:58 +0100 From: Bruce Simpson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brooks Davis References: <200906191552.n5JFqZcG047705@svn.freebsd.org> <20090620130238.N29302@delplex.bde.org> <20090621134826.GA44901@FreeBSD.org> <86skhty76e.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090621173304.GA89146@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> In-Reply-To: <20090621173304.GA89146@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Dokuchaev , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans , svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav Subject: Re: svn commit: r194493 - head/usr.bin/catman X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:48:09 -0000 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 04:48:09PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > >> Alexey Dokuchaev writes: >> >>> This kinda brings up the question, do we actually need catman(1) at all >>> these days of fast CPU and disks and plenty of RAM? >>> >> Show me the fast CPU and plenty of RAM on this board: >> >> http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm >> > > For such hardware, the OpenBSD mdoc renderer is likely to be a better > fit anyway. It's orders of magnitude faster than *roff and wouldn't > waste space on catpages that will in all likely hood never be used. > Also, why are people expecting to render man pages on an embedded platform anyway? I thought the reasoning behind embedded systems was that they were just that, and the usual expectations of desktop systems didn't necessarily apply. I don't expect to be able to read man pages on my pfSense firewall -- and its custom installed predecessor before that, didn't have man pages installed at all to save space in the runtime image. So surely the point about the Soekris here is moot? best, BMS