From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 15 4: 9:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E792D37B697 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 04:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p35-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.100]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id UAA13659; Mon, 15 May 2000 20:09:01 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391FDB25.D7FB808F@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:10:29 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Cracauer Cc: Bob Bishop , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif goes open source References: <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk> <20000515114002.A64473@cons.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin Cracauer wrote: > > In <4.3.1.2.20000515080753.00abfd70@gid.co.uk>, Bob Bishop wrote: > > "The Open Group, a vendor and technology-neutral consortium dedicated to > > enterprise integration, announced today that it is releasing the source > > code of Motif, using a public license, to the Open Source community." > > > > Full details at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif > > The license seems to make it quite useless. > http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/license/ Huh? The license makes it quite useful, IMHO. > "Free for use on Operating Systems that are themself Open Source" > (note the blank), otherwise with something like a GPL virus, but (blank? what blank?) > incompatible with the GPL. As it is not an essential system library, > you may not link GPL programs to it. As the point about FreeBSD is That's because GPL is brain-damaged. It is, essentially, incompatible with anything but GPL. Even the BSD license had to have a clause removed (and I'm still doubtful if this makes it "compatible" with GPL). > that you can make it non-OpenSource at will, no essential system parts > of FreeBSD may be linked to it. We do have a lot of GPLed code in the system, which cannot be made non-OpenSource. Anyway, the license does not contaminate linked programs. It says so explicitly. In this respect, it is much better than GPL. Also, since X is a separate component, it would be no burden to distribute it with the system. Honestly, I don't know of a single BSD-based solution out there that would have had the least trouble had Motif with the above license been distributed with FreeBSD. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org "I agree whole heartily! Who am I to disagree with a wacko like you?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message