From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 17 14:31:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566AB16A418 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:31:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bu7cher@yandex.ru) Received: from webmail33.yandex.ru (webmail33.yandex.ru [213.180.223.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D530C13C457 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bu7cher@yandex.ru) Received: from YAMAIL (webmail33) by mail.yandex.ru id S1082652AbYBQObj for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:31:39 +0300 X-Yandex-Spam: 0 Received: from [77.72.136.70] ([77.72.136.70]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:31:39 +0300 From: "Andrey V. Elsukov" To: unixmania@gmail.com In-Reply-To: 9060000000163621627 References: <20080216210736.GA17517@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <886021203233140@webmail26.yandex.ru> 9060000000163621627 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <2103371203258699@webmail33.yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:31:39 +0300 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA -- erratic behaviour when removing disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:31:44 -0000 17.02.08, 16:51, "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" : > Quoting the message you pointed out: > "You might lose cached and in-flight data of course, and userspace > applications may or may not handle the disappearance of their > underlying filesystem with grace and aplomb :)" > Perhaps you believe that allowing userland applications to lose data > is not risky. I strongly disagree. An userland application will be noticed by kernel and it may retransfer data. And i don't see here any problems. In FreeBSD case you will have a panic and crash. Also after panic you may lost a lot of data. -- WBR, Andrey V. Elsukov