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Date:      Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:46:37 -0400
From:      "J. T. Farmer" <jfarmer@goldsword.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ARRRRGH!  Guys, who's breaking -STABLE's GMIRROR code?!
Message-ID:  <4507008D.4070901@goldsword.com>
In-Reply-To: <4506D884.4050605@scls.lib.wi.us>
References:  <20060909173813.GA1388@FS.denninger.net>	<45065C67.6040503@cs.tu-berlin.de>	<20060912141547.GA11713@FS.denninger.net> <4506D884.4050605@scls.lib.wi.us>

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Greg Barniskis wrote:
> Karl Denninger wrote:
>> and every time someone comes in the lists to complain about something 
>> being
>> broken in -RELEASE, the advice is to go to and track -STABLE!
> Maybe splitting hairs, but advising a user with a problem to try using 
> the -STABLE code that exists at the time of the problem report is 
> really not the same as advising them to /track/ STABLE.
>
> If you /track/ STABLE by frequently cvsupping it and rebuilding your 
> system, you will very likely encounter a serious problem sooner or 
> later. That's why tracking it is not recommended for production systems.
>
> On the other hand if you update a production system to a point in time 
> of STABLE that fixes a particular bug that plagued a release point, 
> and then you don't update again until the next release point or 
> security advisory, you will very likely find joy.
See my similar comment that echoes Karl's.  Now go back and read what
Karl said.  He's not  tracking -STABLE on a production box, he updated to
-STABLE to fix an existing problem.  What bit him in the ass is a problem
with code that "in theory" had not changed and _was_supposed_ to have
been tested.  That is, it was working, he upgraded, as everyone tells 
you to
do, to get fixes to -RELEASE bugs, not to track -STABLE.

John

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