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Date:      Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:19:22 -0700
From:      Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com>
To:        Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Digi CCWMX53
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Tim,

Thanks, that's clarified a large number of my hanging questions.

I thought I had read that clang didn't support cross compiling arm for
freebsd in 10. Is this true?

I should have some more shortly!

Russ


On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com> wrote:

>
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 1) Can anyone give me the correct u-boot enviroment variables or
> reference
> > to the u-boot process to boot the completed freebsd kernel. Specifically
> on
> > a CCWMX53 if possible, but I have linux references to port from. Where
> > would I look for an example?
>
> There are two general approaches being used:
>
> 1) Have U-Boot load and boot the kernel directly.  This can sometimes be
> done with an unmodified Linux U-Boot.
>
> 2) Have U-Boot load FreeBSDs scriptable 'ubldr' and have that load the
> kernel.  This provides more flexibility in the boot process but usually
> requires rebuilding U-Boot.  In particular, you'll need to:
>    * Add CONFIG_CMD_ELF option to U-Boot so it can load `ubldr' which is
> an ELF executable
>    * Add CONFIG_CMD_API option to U-Boot so `ubldr' can access U-Boot's
> drivers for hardware access (`ubldr' itself has to be compiled for each
> board to adjust the load address but is otherwise completely generic).
>    * Adjust the U-Boot startup scripts to set FDT environment variables
> and load ubldr.  You can look at the U-Boot patches for various boards
> supported by Crochet to see how this has been done elsewhere:
>    github.com/kientlze/crochet-freebsd
>
>
> > 2) Do I need to create a cross compiler? Reference 1 says yes, reference
> > two says no. Help!
>
> In most cases, the FreeBSD build system will build a cross-compiler for
> it's own use, so you generally don't need to install a cross compiler to
> cross-build FreeBSD proper.  However, U-Boot is not part of FreeBSD so you
> may need to install a separate cross-compiler to build that.
>
> >
> > Ref.1 Build  a cross compiler
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/ArndaleBoard
>
> This is using a cross-compiler from ports to build U-Boot.  It uses the
> FreeBSD build machinery to cross-build the FreeBSD kernel and world.  (When
> you specify TARGET_ARCH, FreeBSD's 'buildworld' target will build and use a
> suitable cross-compiler.  Also, 'buildkernel' will reuse the cross-compiler
> built by 'buildworld', so you do not need 'kernel-toolchain' as long as you
> 'buildworld' first.)
>
> >
> > Ref 2. No cross compiler/ make toolchain
> > https://wiki.freebsd.org/A_Brief_Guide_To_Cross_Compiling_FreeBSD
>
> This example only talks about building *world*, and the 'buildworld'
> target builds the necessary cross-tools transparently.  In particular,
> since it doesn't talk about building out-of-tree boot loaders such as
> U-Boot, it does not need to talk about building/installing an explicit
> cross-compiler.
>
> For cross-compilers, you have three options:
>  * Ports.
>  * After a successful buildworld, you can 'make TARGET=xyz ... buildenv'
> to get a shell with suitable path settings to reuse the cross-tools from
> the buildworld stage.  Use 'buildenvvar' to just get the environment for
> use in scripts.
>  * FreeBSD source has an 'xdev' target that builds and installs a set of
> cross-tools.  In particular, it can install cross-versions of the same GCC
> or clang used by the rest of FreeBSD.  This facility has changed a lot
> recently, so ask if you need the current command line.
>
> Hope this clarifies things,
>
> Tim
>
>



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