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Date:      Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:52:38 +0100
From:      Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>
To:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Conrad Meyer <cem@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r326758 - in head/sys/i386: conf include
Message-ID:  <7A052A1A-EFB4-489D-B8DF-C8080AD59A20@fh-muenster.de>
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> On 11. Dec 2017, at 17:21, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net> wrote:
>=20
> 11.12.2017 22:08, Konstantin Belousov =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82:
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 06:03:36PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
>>> I do not try to contradict other usage patterns. In fact, I'm eager =
to know
>>> a practical example of such pattern: a task, an application, =
anything real?
>> Plain workstation use, like X11+browser+editor+some other programs =
easily
>> allocates 1000+ threads.  It was still possible to use 32bit x86 for =
that,
>> of course in max memory config without PAE, and without ZFS.  Add =
some
>> load that involves network, for instance torrent client, to establish =
the
>> pressure on KVA.
>>=20
>> I am almost sure that users would get troubles now.
>=20
> Understood. While I'm sure that modern internet browsers make it =
unconfortable
> to browse with less than 4G total RAM (e.g. 2GB) available for the =
system thus requiring amd64,
> I can imagine some old hardware without 64bit-enabled CPU used as =
workstation.
>=20
> We should add Release Notes and UPDATING entry for such i386 users =
about
> setting "kern.kstack_pages=3D2" back in /boot/loader.conf (or 3?)
> and warn them against combined usage of ZFS/SCTP/IPSEC until these =
subsystems get fixed
> to not abuse kernel stack.
Not sure about IPSEC and ZFS. But I was NOT able to reproduce the issue =
by just using
an SCTP association on a 32-bit VM using FreeBSD 11.1. So right now I =
don't know what
is wrong and therefore what could be fixed...

Best regards
Michael
>=20
>=20
>=20


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