From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 28 6:43:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mired.org (dsl-64-192-6-133.telocity.com [64.192.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01D5437B405 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:43:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15653 invoked by uid 100); 28 Feb 2002 14:43:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15486.16889.146502.143165@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 08:43:05 -0600 To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First test of GPL in court In-Reply-To: <20020228142249.GB1805@raggedclown.net> References: <20020227135103.E64839@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20020227061336.N12253@rain.macguire.net> <20020227142303.A65635@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15484.63760.663944.125557@guru.mired.org> <20020227163501.A66574@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <15485.4354.561280.729573@guru.mired.org> <20020228020025.B65094@titus.hanley.stade.co.uk> <15485.40778.433515.165006@guru.mired.org> <20020228070237.GI3311@raggedclown.net> <15485.55616.947697.70199@guru.mired.org> <20020228142249.GB1805@raggedclown.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ From: "Mike Meyer" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.46 (Python 2.2; freebsd-4.5-STABLE-i386) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cliff Sarginson types: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 01:16:16AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Wimp. I learned C reading the v6 kernel, and using the photo7 C > > compiler just to make life interesting. > On the other hand the first language I learnt was Fortran 4 on a CDC > 7600, at the time the most powerful computer in the world (designed by > Mr Cray no less, before he left CDC to go on to .. well you know > those big things that don't have operating systems) Hey, our big thing from that company had an operating system. It was called UniCOS, and looked like Unix System III, IIRC. > It was there that I learnt all I know about hardware > engineering. The 7600 was built on banks of removable > "modules"..when a faulty one was found it was extracted with a > special tool and replaced. To find a faulty module when the > diagnostics were vague the engineers resorted to a technique known > as "shock testing". This involved hitting the module with a small > hammer to see if the diagnostic information would become more > helpful. Ah, I learned this as the "magic wand" test for intermittent faults. You wave the magic want vigorously through the component in question, and the fault generally stopped being intermittent. > I have often thought of applying this technique to the various bosses I > have had in my life to see if I can get them to make sense. > Unfortunately I discovered there was usually no module to extract. Not a problem for the magic want test - but it's still not recommended. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message