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Date:      Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:43:11 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        allen campbell <allenc@verinet.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: newbies mailing list
Message-ID:  <19980302074311.09203@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <199803010927.CAA04411@const.>; from allen campbell on Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 02:27:14AM -0700
References:  <199803010927.CAA04411@const.>

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On Sun,  1 March 1998 at  2:27:14 -0700, allen campbell wrote:
>
>> Real Hackers never get defensive.
>
> This needs to be in a FAQ somewhere (if it isn't already.)  Maybe
> even an RFC.

Another case of the missed smiley?

>> Right.  Of course, giving up FreeBSD because they think it's too hard
>> might be the right choice.  Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
>> people aren't out to get you.
>
> I have since configured sendmail with a proper hostname and to
> masquerade as my ISP for proper return addresses (among other
> things), and learned how to use fetchmail, mail(1), fmt and ispell.
> Some of us _do_ pay attention, Greg. :)

Glad to see it :-)

>> What do you others think?
>
> I think you and Sue are trying to solve different problems.  Sue
> wants a place where the poster has the right to not feel intimidated
> while posting thoughtful questions.  You want users to read the
> docs, follow the conventions and ask worthwhile questions.

I think you're missing the point.  Sue and I are pretty much in sync,
but of course there are a number of issues that this kind of group
could address.

> I think -newbies will have a very bad signal to noise ratio, but
> the noise in newbies will be noise that didn't end up somewhere
> else.

Possibly.  It was one of my concerns, but the only way we can be sure
is to try it out.

Greg

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