From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 22 21:24:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC5616A4CE; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:24:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA8743D1D; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:24:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9MLOloE032677; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:24:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20041022210806.GE52593@dan.emsphone.com> References: <417960C2.8040007@freebsd.org> <20041022194008.GA23778@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <41796396.5070804@freebsd.org> <41796D6D.7000108@freebsd.org> <20041022210806.GE52593@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:24:46 -0400 To: Dan Nelson , Scott Long From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Annoying SCSI waiting... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:24:53 -0000 At 4:08 PM -0500 10/22/04, Dan Nelson wrote: >In the last episode (Oct 22), Scott Long said: >> For just about everyone, a value of 2 seconds or less is just fine. >> For those with tape drives, changers, and (less likely) cdroms, a > > long delay after reset is still quite necessary. > >I don't think the scsi code even does a bus reset, does it? That >should have already been done by the card BIOS during bootup, if at >all. I have have been setting it to 1s for at least 5 years, on >systems with SCSI disks, CD-Rs, autoloaders, and tape drives (dds >and dlt) with no ill effects. Just to be clear, I personally would not push for it to be that low. 5 to 7 seconds would be fine, IMO. I realize that it's only 15 seconds now, but it's amazing how annoying those 15 seconds can be if you are booting multiple times (while setting other things up, or doing some testing). The first time I ever built a non-generic kernel, the only reason was to change this value, because the wait was driving me nuts. And that was, geez, many years ago. Maybe I am just an impatient fellow. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu