From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 5 09:24:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12988AD6 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roger.marsh@btinternet.com) Received: from nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD84206 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 09:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.82.108.230] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 09:24:35 -0000 Received: from [217.146.188.236] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 09:24:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 09:24:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1360056275; bh=8O12/q8cY6yCm3k0JfPsFDJIH3A+LDF7KQ/B+uaWvig=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Content-Type:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=Yr1jObu41NWbksUphhM2Vp2PD4AWrPIUDlnidv9sQVD2WjPYWwOlYb2oIq6DBRPfbw8u3iXX+UfMazhTrzqRiMZ2JQCxOL7GVY76GGhx1VxI/AM2VNFHDh4DEewTs/yYN1PjYUZUcp4/rPjMGJP7MdN2NMGW70Pxewq9dRh4j04= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 861427.32432.bm@smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6aQGnJcVM1lqgQC4g_vY1Z2kZDyvt8GnPaTxQZejq14WHKy kqFzBzZ1J296JsnO18w3PpYlvHgCAWeNQYAUkej6wQwJgG1D4yu2gO7ZShWo zwm14TcD9ErgfZwiD_JWfr7hl6uQ4RQyWw04FmJDtMwLeXxVUnQvjWZghHu7 fv8HTe73zlEmHyLWZuYlttpOJG4.lZlEaZjodhvxYWu_BNtxPci81j2XS02u hBNUmpc5UJ4XroG6YFyDW4G6ZF5DBWZLnzPyzpp09awbYtf4V76Ar8IpVpYe Dn6WHeSaHwxFLTlXAxCWclMzBBc5G6tAzmf1cFBUFUkGmPjvtQrpFrqM0o6I gXF8UodPEcA5sKXCBwSk7E7LE_0732yhnaPKQ8AEOr1AJQKm9V5PwhjBbp5h 5EWaY1WcuJzukcRztLF7eaWxSvVjaLgw5QxaW49IBy32M0EK40RysfoFhOgG 7CNA9ojhB X-Yahoo-SMTP: 3fobtyqswBC5QZSCTGPECG6oW9QlmfTpCxWu370kIHCVg7Q63rTQ Received: from du.home (roger.marsh@87.115.34.8 with login) by smtp821.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Feb 2013 09:24:35 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Mouse stopped working on quit fvwm References: Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:30:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Roger Marsh" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:24:44 -0000 On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:36:31 -0000, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 3 February 2013 04:23, Roger Marsh wrote: >> The problem was encountered when upgrading to FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE and a >> 18 >> January 2013 portsnap. >> >> Steps were: >> >> Upgrade to FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE >> pkg_delete -a >> rm -r /usr/local/* >> Install ports using portmaster >> Turn on the ttyv8 xdm and reboot >> Login via the xdm dialog using the user .xsession file containing just >> /usr/local/bin/fvwm2 >> Do whatever and quit from fvwm back to the xdm dialogue >> >> Usually, but not always, the pointer does not move in response to >> pointer >> device. But it is still possible to login and get the fvwm display >> back, >> but pointless because the pointer still does not move. >> >> Only recovery option found was reboot. For me the most convenient work >> around is turn xdm off and login at a terminal and use the command >> 'startx >> && exit'. >> >> It was quite a while before it occurred to me that the absence of >> xorg.conf >> from all the usual locations might be the problem. >> >> It is not a surprise now if X just works without any manual >> configuration. >> >> The Xorg -configure and X -config /root/xorg.conf.new dance gives a >> black >> screen on the hardware. >> >> For both reasons I did not bother with the dance when doing the upgrade. >> >> After generating and copying xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf the >> pointer >> was mobile after quitting from fvwm. >> >> Although it works I did not quite trust the generated xorg.conf because >> of >> the black screen and wondered if any of the information in the file was >> needed. So I deleted it and replaced it by 'touch >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. The >> pointer is mobile after quitting from fvwm. >> >> Maybe the problem was my sloppy configuration management in losing, I >> assume, an existing xorg.conf file. >> >> But maybe it is a bug because it is not a surprise if X just works >> without >> any manual configuration and the problem occurs possibly after hours of >> successful and varied use of applications via fvwm. >> > > Is your Xorg built with HAL support? You might have to kick > HAL. I've not had problems using moused (& Xorg with HAL > disabled) & an old-fashioned xorg.conf. > I rebuilt with HAL support on current oldest hardware. No problems. My notes say I tried this when upgrading to FreeBSD 7.2 and the problems led to builds being done without HAL support since then. Thanks for the kick.