From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 26 14:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBB437B423 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fredrik@speechcraft.com) Received: from d1o74.telia.com (d1o74.telia.com [62.20.224.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4QLGA108388; Sat, 26 May 2001 23:16:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from molly.telia.com (t6o74p118.telia.com [212.181.216.238]) by d1o74.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22125; Sat, 26 May 2001 23:16:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 23:16:31 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: Fredrik Olausson X-Sender: fredrik@molly.telia.com To: David Scheidt Cc: Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 26 May 2001, David Scheidt wrote: > On Sat, 26 May 2001, Fredrik Olausson wrote: > > : > :On Sat, 26 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > :> > However, Apple isn't really a part of the open-source community, and it is > :> > :> Really? I know a lot of Darwin / OpenPlay / NetSprocket / CDSA folks > :> who would vehemently disagree with you there! See publicsource.apple.com > :> and also the Apple Public Source License (APSL). > : > :I meant the're not a part of the Slashdot in-crowd :) > > That's not really a very useful definition. The /. in crowd seems less > interested in the technical merits of a thing than whether it's cool > enough for them. This is true. Somehow, though, I have gotten a feeling that while Apple certainly have "embraced" (I hate that word) open-source, they, as a company, aren't that commited to the open-source community (again, I might be wrong). While the kernel of MacOS is BSD-based, is really the rest of the platform? Does the GUI run on top of X? Again, the feeling I get is that Apple, again, as a company, has picked up some bits of very good code without returning that much to the community. For an analogy, take RedHat - the company has made big bucks un Linux, and has in return released software like RPM to the public, when they could have chosen not to. Apple could, for example, have built Aqua as a plain ol' windowmanager and released it back to the public. I wonder if Apple's commitment to the community will strenghten or lessen if MacOSX becomes a strong seller. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message