From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 04:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3565A106564A; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AEB8FC12; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p0640pNw007328; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:00:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <20110106024403.GB22349@vniz.net> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:00:51 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8A69DE05-A433-4D40-8E63-8F06215606F2@samsco.org> References: <20110103220153.69cf59e0@kan.dnsalias.net> <20110104082252.45bb5e7f@kan.dnsalias.net> <20110105124045.6a0ddd1a@kan.dnsalias.net> <20110105175926.GA2101@vniz.net> <20110106024403.GB22349@vniz.net> To: Andrey Chernov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-50.0 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux kernel compatability X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:00:55 -0000 On Jan 5, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Scott Long wrote: >>> We have not been marginalized in this space because we have an = emulator. We just don't have the marketshare in many areas. If = anything, these emulators improve our marketshare. >>=20 >> I agree entirely. Companies look at marketshare and ability to turn = more revenue than costs (i.e. profit). Like Jeff, I've had my share of = dealing with companies who have made a conscious to support or not = support FreeBSD based on those factors. Petitions and letters sound = great on Slashdot, but don't work in the real world. Emulation = increases marketshare. >=20 > Emulation decreases our marketshare, presenting us like=20 > not-so-good-but-trying Linux clone, so, for this reason alone, every=20= > serious company will put its money on Linux product running on real = Linux=20 > instead of thinking about porting it into FreeBSD. >=20 I'm sorry, this simply hasn't been true in my experience. I've worked = with companies that have decided to support FreeBSD, and I've worked = with companies that have decided not to support FreeBSD. Emulation has = never been used as an excuse to not support FreeBSD. It's purely a = cost/benefit decision. Scott