From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 16:03:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FBE16A4CE for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:03:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FACC43D1D for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:03:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j07G38Nl046689; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:03:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j07G382h063247; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:03:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j07G387c063246; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:03:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:03:08 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "William H. Magill" Message-ID: <20050107160308.GA63225@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200501031101.j03B1wtR006075@freefall.freebsd.org> <20050106182644.GA57934@freebie.xs4all.nl> <05847D56-604E-11D9-8A59-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <05847D56-604E-11D9-8A59-000393768D2C@mcgillsociety.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 4.11-RC1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation and similar issues with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:03:11 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 08:47:00PM -0500, William H. Magill wrote.. > On 06 Jan, 2005, at 13:26, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>2) Does anybody have any descriptions of "rational" disk layouts for > >> 4 or 9 gig drives? [Both boot and "other"] > >> ... especially since I have a "blue" SW shelf of "VW" drives. > > > >You could use Auto from sysinstall for a start. > > As I recall, I couldn't get "Auto" to work. I had to define layouts > manually. That is strange, given that it worked for me the last times I built the release ISOs. We have had problems in the past with disks that contained previous Tru64 or OVMS data / disklabels. Zeroing the disks before use with 'dd' or somesuch fixed that. I do believe this issue was fixed but I am not sure. > >> The "handbook section 16.3.1 is also wrong. > > > >No need to format SCSI disks in your StorageWorks shelf. > > Could you elaborate on this? I suspect we may mean different things by > "format." > > If they are not labeled and newfs'd how does one mount them? (I had > been using them with Tru64 earlier, so they had labels not recognized > by FreeBSD.) Note also that this shelf is NOT using the RAID card ... I > have to find a floppy with the code for the Mylex DAC960 -- that's my > next project. OK, yes, we mean different things. Formatting for me is sending your SCSI disks a FORMAT UNIT SCSI command. Creating filesystems / newfs-ing are obviously needed to do something sensible with the disks > >fdisk is a PeeCee concept, it is not used on Alpha. > > It would be good if there was something, somewhere which said that ... > like maybe in section 2.2 of the hardware notes. Well, yeah... There is probably more like this stuff missing. Lemme see if I can add that info. Note that there is a generic and a Alpha specific part in the notes, these are generated from different source files. proc-alpha.sgml is my baby, and like the name indicates contains the alpha specific stuff. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org