From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 16 13:22:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268A93390A8 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:22:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49mTQ721pzz40YW for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1592313743; x=1594905743; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=SPjnB+tucWx38oCJvKG1iuB/IC/jCMn0R+Byv5tHXYo=; b=NrzMlbom5xnHZrONHv7parGUtY1QFau3IN2YhNLdAKf4MDW2rISRhBL1vJhXEFEjC2+uOVwFJS2ff3iXiBPj2NWlI/ypO0QBbfMOJOORudw3pQeIt5fSO4aLem1QtT74tUrcLazy3vf7Ii3toB2yvEHrt0wrDlHQWupM28UZ2L0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMjAwMDA4NDk0ZDAuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:22:20 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:22:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jlBXe-000BEK-BY; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:22:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:22:18 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Daniel Feenberg Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.1 i386 CD #1 image size not compatible with intended medium standard size Message-Id: <20200616142218.7e52e13710955a096b930573@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20200616122728.7bd2df41.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200616115127.53797f2bdea77fcbe032b4bf@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49mTQ721pzz40YW X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=NrzMlbom; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.022]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.007]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.881]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c200008494d0.d1af8f9c2ec8e84db9d3bc1bfc9a5ac5@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:22:25 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:27:28 +0200 > > Polytropon wrote: > > ...> > >> When will FreeBSD supply a CD image file that can actually be > >> used with normal CD media again without requiring a workaround > >> and possibly breaking the result? > > > > Shortly after someone figures out how to and submits an > > acceptable patch - you may be the first to have been inconvenienced by > > this, it's been a long time since I used a CD. > > > > That is rather disengenuous. Is there any chance a patch that removed > some packageswould be accepted? I'd expect a patch on foot of a bug saying disc1 no longer fits on a CD would at least be considered. > Hasn't the decision already been made that there is no problem? I am That is not clear to me, the size could easily have crept over without anyone noticing given that CDs are near obsolete. It may well take a bug to draw attention to it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/