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Date:      Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:20:17 +0100
From:      Rudolf Cejka <cejkar@fit.vutbr.cz>
To:        Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
Cc:        Remko Lodder <remko@FreeBSD.org>, doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: www/en where.sgml
Message-ID:  <20060313152017.GA24077@fit.vutbr.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20060311152536.GD73523@submonkey.net>
References:  <20060311152536.GD73523@submonkey.net>

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Ceri Davies wrote (2006/03/11):
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 03:03:37PM +0000, Remko Lodder wrote:
> >   Use &base; in the where.sgml file like other files also use.
> While I am not wildly opposed to this, I don't really see what this
> gains us, other than to make the rendered page (at least) 102 bytes
> larger (&base; being equivalent to "./" most of the time).

Personally, it helps me to maintain my partial Czech web translation,
because I'm better warned about links, which I should check twice (and
it helps me to better find them). This last commit helped me to find
two bugs.

Btw, did you read my mail from 20 Feb 2006? Maybe it would be
interesting to the others too:

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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 12:51:18 +0100
From: Rudolf Cejka <cejkar@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
To: Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
Subject: Re: where.sgml 1.78: beta.testing => beta2.testing?

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:57:55PM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote:
> Spot on, thanks for pointing this out.

Hello, thanks for fixing %beta2.testing in where.sgml.

I'm sorry to trouble you, but I have 3 new things:

1) What about the following patch? ;o)

--- where.sgml.orig	Mon Feb 20 12:14:11 2006
+++ where.sgml	Mon Feb 20 12:14:58 2006
@@ -169,7 +169,7 @@
   <![ %beta.testing; [
 
     <a name="helptest"></a>
-    <h2>Help With The Next FreeBSD Release</h2>
+    <h2>Help With The Next FreeBSD Release<![%beta2.testing; [s]]></h2>
 
     <p>Our developers and release engineers are working on the
       the next release<![%beta2.testing; [s]]> of FreeBSD; if you wish to help with testing,
---

2) Maybe just to know for you - these constructions can make big trouble
in some translations. For example, in Czech I had to extend simple
    "if (cond) then (text)"
to more problematic
    "if (cond) then (text1) else (text2)"
in SGML. Fortunately it is possible to solve it by adding
    <!-- Negation of beta2.testing -->
    <![%beta2.testing; [<!ENTITY % beta2.nontesting "IGNORE">]]>
    <!ENTITY % beta2.nontesting "INCLUDE">
in www/<lang>/includes.sgml at the end of the file just after
%includes.global; and then use
    <![%beta2.testing; [text1]]><![%beta2.nontesting; [text2]]>.

3) Recently I have found yet another problem: Your commit
www/share/sgml/includes.navdownload.sgml 1.3, which added
    <!ENTITY % relincludes SYSTEM "includes.release.sgml"> %relincludes;
into includes.navdownload.sgml file, has bad impact, that it is not
possible to change definitions from includes.release.sgml in translations
in a standard way anymore, which is to change www/<lang>/includes.sgml.
Do you have any idea, how to solve this? I did not find anything good yet.

Regards.

-- 
Rudolf Cejka <cejkar at fit.vutbr.cz> http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/~cejkar
Brno University of Technology, Faculty of Information Technology
Bozetechova 2, 612 66  Brno, Czech Republic



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