From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 21 12:07:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3786E16A4CE; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtaw4.prodigy.net (mtaw4.prodigy.net [64.164.98.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151B443D2D; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (db986676a7c74ad553103ca7a2c939d1@adsl-63-207-60-37.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.37]) by mtaw4.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1LK7TwK005324; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6654566CAF; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 12:07:24 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Clement Laforet Message-ID: <20040221200724.GB51235@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200402211513.i1LFDQRA012919@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040221193617.GB50771@xor.obsecurity.org> <20040221210244.23d7fa99.clement@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040221210244.23d7fa99.clement@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: security-team@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-ports@FreeBSD.org cc: ports-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net/delegate Makefile distinfo pkg-message pkg-plist X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:07:31 -0000 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 09:02:44PM +0100, Clement Laforet wrote: > On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:36:17 -0800 > Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > When I audited this software and added the warning, I concluded that > > delegate was fundamentally insecure from the ground up and could not > > be fixed just by patching a few things. How has this changed, and who > > has audited the new software to verify it? >=20 > Which version did you audit ? changes in 8.x fixed most of lacks of > security in protocol implementations. Since advisories are 4 years old > (and currently, except misconfiguration, there are few risks), I thought > it was reasonnable to remove warnings. > If you still consider that this software is insecure by concept, I can > re-add them, but I wonder why you don't add the same to sendmail, bind > or whatever port which got several advisories due to bad conception. Because those were not written by someone with no concept of secure coding. That's why I said "insecure from the ground up"; there were literally hundreds of ways to exploit this software. A few of those special cases probably made it into advisories and were fixed, but claiming that the entire set of applications has been fixed requires extraordinary proof. Kris --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAN7p8Wry0BWjoQKURArzMAKDFSLzln84Nq/gg41q9w3BnmwITVQCg4iF/ AtSqTdlGyOLJvNppzUJ6cdU= =NSzu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN--