From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 4 03:06:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2C416A4CE for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 03:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmsrelay03.mx.net (cmsrelay03.mx.net [165.212.11.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CBAD43D6A for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 03:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from uadvg130.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.130) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2004 10:06:56 -0000 Received: from optimator.noacks.org [66.136.23.148] by uadvg130.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/noackjr@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 184iDDkg30192M30; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 10:06:54 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 66.136.23.148 AUTH noackjr@usa.net optimator.noacks.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC08610E; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 05:06:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08266-06; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 05:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alumni.rice.edu (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CB76103; Sun, 4 Apr 2004 05:06:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <406FDE3A.2080002@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 05:06:50 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5+ (Windows/20040312) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl References: <20030827035836.GC352@freebsd2.localnet10> <20040404045536.GA56971@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040404045536.GA56971@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup failing with "ASSERT failed" X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 10:06:57 -0000 On 4/3/2004 10:55 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:58:36PM -0500, none wrote: >>A couple of times, now, on both FBSD-5.1-CURRENT and FBSD-4.8-STABLE whilst >>running with 2MB of RAM, cvsup has "croaked" with the following error: >> >>*** >>*** runtime error: >>*** ASSERT failed >>*** file "/usr/ports/lang/ezm3/work/ezm3-1.0/libs/m3core/src/runtime/ >>common/RTHeapMap.m3", line 35 >>*** >> use option @M3stackdump to get a stack trace >>Abort trap (core dumped) > > 2MB? Are you serious? This must be a typo -- even PicoBSD requires 4MB of RAM to do anything useful. I ran a 486/DX4 100MHz machine with 20MB of RAM (the max for the motherboard) as a WINS server for a while (to help link college dorm subnets so people would see more computers in Network Neighborhood). The only way I kept the machine up-to-date was to build world, kernel, and packages on another machine and then install over NFS. This worked pretty well, although an installworld over NFS on a fast network still took a few hours. I started using this method after I let a buildworld go for over 2 _days_ without finishing, and this with 4.x (5.x would be even longer!). The disk performance was so bad that swapping over NFS actually *sped* things up. In any case, the machine was rock solid, though, racking up 100+ day uptimes between security patches. It was actually this machine that got me started with FreeBSD, because 20MB of RAM was too little for RedHat (I think it needed 32MB). I've been using FreeBSD ever since... Jon