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Date:      Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:18:55 -0800
From:      "David Jellison" <davidjellison@hotmail.com>
To:        "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: intrest in MIPS 10,000 CPU? support
Message-ID:  <OE47Y0QUUBPcZi71mrv00003511@hotmail.com>
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Regarding  "What's the ballpark on a cheap 64 bit MIPS box?"
I picked one up for $50.  with 192Mb ram and HD sled WO drive.
I think that MIPS 10000 is going to take a casual hacker price point.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Lambert" <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To: "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc: "David Jellison" <davidjellison@hotmail.com>; <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: intrest in MIPS 10,000 CPU? support


> "Crist J. Clark" wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:45:40PM -0800, David Jellison wrote:
> > > Is there any one working an support for SGI INDIGO 2 with the
> > > 10000 cpu and SolidImpact Graphics?
> >
> > You mean the IP28 in a "Power Indigo2 10000?"
> >
> >   http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/sgi/resources/ip-cpu.html
> >
> > I _think_ NetBSD does those,
> >
> >   http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/sgimips/
> >
> > I don't think there is much interest in FreeBSD about porting to any
> > SGI hardware.
>
> For $299 I can get a 733MHz machine with 20G of disk, 128M of
> RAM, etc. etc..
>
> I can get an Alpha for pretty cheap, but I can only stick 2G
> of RAM in it because of FreeBSD limitations that are Alpha
> specific.
>
> What's the ballpark on a cheap 64 bit MIPS box?
>
> The only reason I would go for MIPS or Itanium or other 64
> bit machine would be to break the 4G of physical RAM barrier.
>
> I think the MIPS 10000 is going to take a long time to reach
> a casual hacker price point.
>
> That said, there is apparently an unmerged FreeBSD MIPS port
> that boots multiuser; this was reported on at the BSDCon.  It
> looks to be a difficult merge to get it in the tree, and I'm
> not sure if it's 32 bit or 64 bit (I think it may be 32, but
> there are some 64 bit embedded systems, like SIBytes, so I
> could be wrong on that).
>
> You should contact the people involved on the correct mailing
> list, if you are interested in helping with the peeing on the
> code to make it smell like FreeBSD.
>
> -- Terry
>

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