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Date:      Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:48:16 +0400
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: color, again, in grotty
Message-ID:  <20021021144816.GB24582@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20021021114758.GB66084@sunbay.com>
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 14:47:58 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> OTOH, ANSI SGR sequences allow one to manipulate both attributes and
> colors.  One day soon, less(1) will be "fixed" to map the ANSI SGR
> escapes back to the terminal's native, like it currently does for
> backspace sequences.  It actually already semi-supports them through
> the -R option (in that sense that they are accounted for properly).
>=20
> Would you tell me the same if both less(1) and ul(1) were capable of
> handling ANSI SGR sequences by default using the terminal's hardware
> capabilities?

In theory - I have nothing against SGR default if all less(1), ul(1),
col(1), colcrt(1) (I hope I not forget something) will be able treat it
properly. Moreover, upper level utilities like man(1) should be fixed to
use new options for that case too.

In practice - in its current form less -R can cause keyboard lock or other
unpleasant effects for terminals which not understand SGR, so can't be=20
used for man(1) manpage displaying.

--=20
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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