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Date:      Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:21:38 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
Cc:        "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, "pkg@freebsd.org" <pkg@freebsd.org>, "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, "mva@freebsd.org" <mva@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool
Message-ID:  <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com>
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> On Sep 2, 2014, at 4:47, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> wrote:
>=20
> Marcus von Appen wrote:
>> Alban Hertroys <haramrae@gmail.com>:
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I can totally understand that at some point it starts to get
>>> impossible to maintain two separate packaging systems and I understand
>>> that you think 2 years is enough time to shake things out, but
>>> software vendors aren't that quick. For many, 2 years is a short time.
>>=20
>> It also should be noted that everyone had enough time to raise those
>> issues
>> in the time between tthe announcement and now. No one did. Now that it is=

>> gone, they are brought up, while they should have been long time ago
>> instead. It can't work that way.
>>=20
>> My 2 cents in this discussion :-).
>=20
> Actually I brought it up as soon as I found the EOL was a deadline for
> breaking pkg_* tools, was told, "too late now" - that was more than 2
> weeks ago, less than 2 months ago (forget the date) ... I'm happy with
> an EOL and working to upgrade everything, I'm not happy that the EOL was
> not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline.

Hi Michelle,
    One subtle point that I wanted to ask for clarification is you thought t=
he EOL announcement for pkg_install was going to be "pkg_install is no longe=
r going to be supported, but you can still use it", instead of "pkg_install s=
upport is going to be removed from the tree" -- is that correct?
    You'd probably hate to do this, but forking the sources and changing fro=
m portsnap to a git or svn backed ports tree that downloads a tarball snapsh=
ot might be the best resolution to this issue now...
Thanks!
-Garrett=



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