From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Mar 16 19:35:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2488F41FCA for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org (pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org [54.200.129.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4764870DA9 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-User: 0e6ad06f-2951-11e8-b951-f99fef315fd9 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound2.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 0e6ad06f-2951-11e8-b951-f99fef315fd9; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w2GJZUxZ029473; Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:35:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1521228930.99081.66.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Is it time to expose timespecsub and friends to userland? From: Ian Lepore To: Alan Somers , Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , bde@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:35:30 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <1521223787.99081.63.camel@freebsd.org> <65723.1521226854@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 19:35:33 -0000 On Fri, 2018-03-16 at 13:31 -0600, Alan Somers wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp > wrote: > > > > > -------- > > In message <1521223787.99081.63.camel@freebsd.org>, Ian Lepore > > writes: > > > > > > > > IMO, it's long overdue.  I've never understood why they weren't > > > exposed > > > on the day the were added. > > I have a faint recollection that there were many copies in > > userland already which I didn't want to deal with right there and > > then. > > [...] > > > Good point.  A quick grep finds a few examples.  I'll make sure to > remove > them. Hmm, I'll bet there are some ports that also define the obvious names locally and that'll cause problems if we move the names out from under #ifdef __KERNEL.  So an exp-run will probably be needed too. -- Ian