From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 19 20:27:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E59E37B407; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from cream.org ([62.31.80.67]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 20 Jul 2001 04:27:10 +0100 Message-ID: <3B57A50B.9010101@cream.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 04:27:07 +0100 From: Andrew Boothman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-GB; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Moving chapters around in the Handbook References: <20010716185834.D77647@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010719134759.B79615@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't really think that FreeBSD should limit itself to considering itself to be a 'Server OS', or why would we bother with any X, sound, etc. support at all! I guess it's hard to know if the majority of new FreeBSD installations are server or desktop based, but I'd think that it's probably desktops in which case they probably want a nice cute GUI as quick as possible! I think it should be early in the handbook, but possibly not the actual installation chapter, as I think that it's better to have a system up and running with all devices detected and sorted before trying to sort X. Otherwise, users may think that their installation is broken just because X won't start. And they don't realise that getting X working is the one of the last steps, not one of the first! Just my thoughts. Andrew. Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > I continue to hear people say that FreeBSD is meant [and always has > been aimed at] the server market. Which in my eyes would not qualify > moving X11 to Chapter I a valid option. > > If you aim at the average Joe Schmoe home user, it might make sense, > although care should be taken to avoid delving into one particular > window environment too much. At least in my humble opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message