From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 11:43:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4425D106566B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DD68FC08 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so1000614wib.13 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=GgQMASxxqkN2oSEWHhXsjGtv532i85G/htN/+IXuGRw=; b=QMsy2z7NofCfeCtu9Ipw/lLj5Im5dncuyz0z2q8SZWJunmPoahkdEjGH8jw+cbdabb THne4bbJ+Vpa1Lj60bIwwNXJaxnwDgEF70qDTiiC4tWTLXMPk3u+0Gn8u3zk3CGxRxHd oPQqJpmz9pIxe9NKbIIHGkDv5O3kF2vLoYmYY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=GgQMASxxqkN2oSEWHhXsjGtv532i85G/htN/+IXuGRw=; b=TWsbCXW04r22X5NnJ0AyPsHFB2uiakH3VNcfYhyQKYdetnBl5Dbqxj6b6J5t8IWT66 OusTENdk5Pxgo1r3C2WZkacMutB5Xrzy3qxiPPBhhM681AYtjeI1biWWSHbgx/shLT1M VKBRukOOn79S8GvZU+l5KJth+YAPTHOhCeapa8kKjjUEKiJCoREz85QRQOSJZavjlouI 0DR7TGZ8DSNHfYU4hju62ZM3oJypUTRQeI/CbwVynMs64uccqHHhhyicuQNUM0iXjO6f VrQ/ZT4vo7a/WoA8C0FQJFWoCH90PYP9rcYEUUMwxSTDMRTAXYLHcfCoDn9P9SsLoXS6 zuCw== Received: by 10.180.91.165 with SMTP id cf5mr4092623wib.2.1333626225780; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 04:43:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.63.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F7CA124.8080401@freebsd.org> References: <4F775DF5.1020704@rawbw.com> <201204020831.09253.jhb@freebsd.org> <4F79D63E.7010200@rawbw.com> <201204021312.36568.jhb@freebsd.org> <4F7BDF06.8000104@freebsd.org> <4F7CA124.8080401@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 07:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: To: Julian Elischer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk+Bd+W3lsrses1XTF4AhNkkxCl8OOITVPYd+xgvgMkS2YljnM7Z4R74VXkuMghww+Fi0yu Cc: Yuri , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there any modern alternative to pstack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:43:53 -0000 On 4 April 2012 15:29, Julian Elischer wrote: > but we do add patches to make things work on FreeBSD. We add patches to make ports... ... work on FreeBSD ... conform to FreeBSD hier (to an extent) ... work with alternate compilers, PREFIX, etc. We shouldn't add patches which "continue development". In all cases the goal should be to upstream the patch ASAP. If there is no active upstream and the patch does more than the above that is a sign that someone needs to be willing to become the upstream maintainer first. -- Eitan Adler