From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 01:41:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA23924 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:41:53 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA23917 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:41:48 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA16070; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:39:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199510080839.JAA16070@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: vendor bytes (ethernet address, a list?) To: fenner@parc.xerox.com (Bill Fenner) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:39:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: terry@lambert.org, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <95Oct7.195211pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> from "Bill Fenner" at Oct 7, 95 07:52:08 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1057 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In message <199510051843.LAA02340@phaeton.artisoft.com> you write: > >Yes. Xerox does, since they assign them. > > Actually, Xerox still assigns ethertypes, but the IEEE assigns vendor ranges. > > >You can purchase the list from Xerox. 8-(. > > You can check ftp://ftp.ieee.org/info/stds/info.stds.oui , and also RFC1700. > They are both incomplete but do not fully intersect. > > Unfortunately, neither one lists 00-40-af, the original request. > Thanks for the detailed info. It turned out that 00-40-af-xx-xx-xx was a Dec Laser printer (server). > You could try contacting: > > IEEE Registration Authority > IEEE Standards Department > 445 Hoes Lane, P.O. Box 1331 > Piscataway NJ 08844-1331 > phone: (908)562-3813 > Fax: (909)562-1571 > Email: i.ringel@ieee.org > > but since info.stds.oui claims to list all publically available information > you might not get a whole lot of help from them. > > Bill > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 08:06:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA03396 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:06:54 -0700 Received: from upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov (upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov [156.40.112.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA03391 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:06:47 -0700 Received: (from crtb@localhost) by upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA26826; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:06:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:06:45 -0400 From: Chuck Bacon Message-Id: <199510081506.LAA26826@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Perl5.001m dies quickly Cc: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On a 486 w/20MB running FreeBSD 2.0.5R, tried to build perl5.001m. I ran ./Configure and took defaults throughout. Hit return as suggested to run make depend, and got: Daisy10:51> make depend "Makefile", line 110: Need an operator "Makefile", line 233: Need an operator Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue Daisy10:51> Well, lines 108-112 of Makefile look like: -------- all: makefile miniperl $(private) $(public) $(dynamic_ext) @echo " "; echo " Making x2p stuff"; cd x2p; $(MAKE) all # This is now done by installman only if you actually want the man pages. # @echo " "; echo " Making docs"; cd pod; $(MAKE) all; -------- and lines 231-235 look like: -------- perl opcode.pl perl embed.pl # Extensions: # Names added to $(dynamic_ext) or $(static_ext) will automatically -------- I note that both fatal error lines are blank; line 110 has a tab, but line 233 is truly blank. By deleting the tab from line 110, I got make down to one fatal error message. But line 233 baffles me, since it's truly blank. I downloaded perl5.001m.tar.gz from perl.com, so it's the real thing. Is there a problem with /usr/bin/make in FreeBSD 2.0.5R ? I'd appreciate e-mail on this, since I can't subscribe to questions. Chuck Bacon - crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov "People who like this kind of thing will find this the sort of thing they like." --A. Lincoln From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 08:35:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA04151 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:35:12 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04137 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 08:34:58 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA23670 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:34:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:34:51 +0100 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199510081534.QAA23670@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:37:12 -0700 Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA23963 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:37:09 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:37:09 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199510081837.MAA23963@terra.aros.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SNAP upgrading Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please forgive another newbie question, but I installed one of the SNAP releases somewhat by mistake, and now I'm stuck with either upgrading to the latest SNAP, or downgrading to 2.0.5 (I need the machine to be as stable as I can getit). I'm curious if there's an easy and non-destructive way to either upgrade or downgrade, and if so.. er.. how? :) -Dave Andersen --- angio@aros.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 13:02:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA10047 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:02:41 -0700 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.bnr.ca [192.58.194.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA10042 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:02:36 -0700 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:01:59 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:01:47 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:01:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:01:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1740711/g=bo/i=b/s=xiao/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.550:08.09.95.20.01.47] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:Perl5.001m... From: "bo (b.) xiao" Message-ID: <"21561 Sun Oct 8 16:01:52 1995"@bnr.ca> To: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov Subject: re:Perl5.001m dies quickly Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message "Perl5.001m dies quickly", crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov writes: > I note that both fatal error lines are blank; line 110 has a tab, but > line 233 is truly blank. By deleting the tab from line 110, I got > make down to one fatal error message. But line 233 baffles me, since > it's truly blank. Replace the line with a 'true' blank line, ie, delete and insert. Bigger trouble comes from the patches. Have all the patches been applied to 5.001m? None of the can be applied during the build. Anyway, I disable the patches altogether and the build goes. Bo From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 13:51:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA11154 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:51:24 -0700 Received: from village.ios.com (village.ios.com [198.4.75.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA11124 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:51:17 -0700 From: sfinn@pobox.com Received: from 206.20.33.20 (ppp-20.ts-1.hp.idt.net [206.20.33.20]) by village.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA14037 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:49:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:49:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199510082049.QAA14037@village.ios.com> Subject: A Square Network Adapter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just finished intalling FreeBSD 2.0.5 from CD on a 100MHz Pentium. I have a PCI network card made by "A Square" that I was hoping to use with this system because of a statement in their User's Guide stating that the card is compatible with Novell's NE2000 Family... But when I boot with this card in place I see this message: pci0:18: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8029, class=network [not supported] map(10): io(6100) My question is...does the "[not supported]" really mean I don't have a chance in h*ll of configuring this card into the kernel, or...is there someway to make the kernel believe this *is* a NE2000 card?? Any help will be greatly appreciated! +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Shaun M. Finn | | Technocore Communications, Inc. FAX: (908)928-4505 | | P.O. Box 106 Email: sfinn@pobox.com | | Jackson, NJ 08527-0106 WWW: http://pobox.com/~sfinn | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 15:36:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA14563 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 15:36:22 -0700 Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA14558 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 15:36:20 -0700 Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/+PanixU1.2) id SAA13933; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:36:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Installing additional programs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi to all, I'm new to FreeBSD. I've gotten it installed, but now I am interested in adding additional programs. Is there an 'install' program to use? I can either install from ms-dos floppy or directly from the /usr/local, or some other appropriate mount point. Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 16:55:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA16026 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:55:18 -0700 Received: from methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de (methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de [130.133.2.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA16021 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 16:55:15 -0700 Received: by methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) from hal.in-berlin.de with gsmtp id ; Mon, 9 Oct 95 00:55 MET Received: by hal.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0t21tr-0008QUC; Sun, 8 Oct 95 21:00 MET Message-Id: From: dirk@hal.in-berlin.de (Dirk Froemberg) Subject: Re: Perl5.001m dies quickly To: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:00:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510081506.LAA26826@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov> from "Chuck Bacon" at Oct 8, 95 11:06:45 am Organization: Individual Network Berlin e. V. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 823 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Bacon writes: > On a 486 w/20MB running FreeBSD 2.0.5R, tried to build perl5.001m. > I ran ./Configure and took defaults throughout. Hit return as > suggested to run make depend, and got: > > Daisy10:51> make depend > "Makefile", line 110: Need an operator > "Makefile", line 233: Need an operator > Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue Try to look for some extra tabs or spaces in the Makefile where lines seem to be empty. The make-util supplied with 2.0.5R is very strict about parsing. Best regards Dirk -- e-mail: dirk@hal.in-berlin.de PGP-Public-Key available Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1000. 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From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 17:32:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA16495 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 17:32:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (dialup-5-162.gw.umn.edu [128.101.96.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA16490 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 17:32:52 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA00449; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:24:24 -0500 From: Jon Nelson Message-Id: <199510090024.TAA00449@localhost> Subject: Help To: with@freefall.freebsd.org, Ghostscript@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 495 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk gsbanner: localhost:root Job: README Date: Sun Oct 8 19:19:29 CDT 1995 gsif: localhost:root deskjet.1 start - Sun Oct 8 19:19:29 CDT 1995 Error: /undefined in Instructions Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: 533/547 0/20 5/200 Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 usage: rm [-dfiRr] file ... gsif: end - Sun Oct 8 19:19:30 CDT 1995 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 18:16:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA17068 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:16:33 -0700 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@scunix5.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA17051 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:16:30 -0700 Received: from scws26.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:16:28 -0400 Received: by scws26.harvard.edu id VAA09258; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:27:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Sir Ilya Tsymbal Subject: problem booting w/ati m64 To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having a problem booting from a floppy with ATI PCI Mach64. Kernel loads, but when it checks for peripherals and such, the monitor goes blanc or (with another monitor) white lines appear for the rest of peripherals testing, and when the blue install screen is supposed to come up, the screen turns green and funny line patterns run through it. I tried booting with -c flag, but I am not sure of which device is the monitor - in case i need to change IRQ and memory address. Dos and Windows work fine with the same card; Windows claims the card has IRQ 10 and the ATI's install disk claims the card has memory address 2ECh. I booted with -c and set sc0 device to irq 10 and address 2ec - it wouldn't accept 2ech. Is there a way to know these things for sure? The system boots fine with a different card - all the way to the install screen. I tried experimenting with different BIOS settings, and also card settings through the card's install program. Anyway, If you have any idea, please tell me. Thank you in advance, Ilya. Ilya Tsymbal '96 Harvard U, Quincy House. itsymbal@husc.harvard.edu http://itsymbal.student.harvard.edu/ilya/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 18:23:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA17219 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:23:30 -0700 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA17209 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:22:59 -0700 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma024858; Mon Oct 9 11:20:39 1995 Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma011348; Mon Oct 9 11:19:54 1995 Received: from rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.252.15]) by cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA19253 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:19:53 +1000 Received: from crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (crab.ind.tansu.com.au [149.135.100.23]) by rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA02744 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:19:46 +1000 Received: from kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (raoul@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.104.48]) by crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA24015; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:19:42 +1000 Received: (raoul@localhost) by kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA07559; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:19:40 +1000 Message-Id: <199510090119.LAA07559@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Subject: Question on read syscall on serial port To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:19:40 +1000 (EST) From: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1684 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello people, I'm reading from a modem on /dev/cua*. It's a blocking read, which means I expect it to wait there until data is available, or until the modem loses carrier, or until an error occurs. At the moment, when the modem loses carrier, the read syscall returns a count of 0 data read, but it does not set errno to anything (it leaves errno with the same value it had before the call). Is there any way (via an ioctl, a fcntl, an stty(?) or via some modem configuration parameter) of having the read syscall put some value into errno, such as ENOENT or EIO, when the modem loses carrier? I ask this because in the tip code there is a loop that exits only once errno is set to these values. This means that after the modem's lost carrier my tip session fails to exit. The code is as follows: /* while some condition */ cnt = read(FD, buf, BUFSIZ); if (cnt <= 0) { /* lost carrier */ if (cnt < 0 && errno == EIO) { sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); intTERM(); /*NOTREACHED*/ } else if (cnt == 0 && errno == ENOENT) { kill(getppid(),SIGUSR1); sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); intTERM(); /*NOTREACHED*/ } else { printf("%d %d\r",cnt,errno); fflush(stdout); } continue; } /* end */ Thanks, Raoul. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 18:34:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA17482 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:34:11 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA17476 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:34:08 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA08002; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:31:59 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510090201.LAA08002@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: fdisk & partition names To: jbarrm@panix.com (Barry Masterson) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:31:59 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Barry Masterson" at Oct 7, 95 01:46:15 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2945 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Barry Masterson stands accused of saying: > Now, in bsd's fdisk, I'm at a loss for what to do. Fdisk reports the > following: > > offset size end name PType Desc Subtype flags > 0 59 58 - 6 unused 0 > 59 164197 164255 wd0s1 2 fat 6 = > 164256 893024 1057279 - 6 unused 0 > > > I'm guessing that the dos drive is the second line. And that the remainder > of the drive (formerly linux) is the third line. Yup. The scrap at the beginning is the space between the MBR and the first partition. It _is_ possible to put a partition in there, and occasionally its useful. Myself, I think that showing it here is a bad idea. > The nameing conventions in linux are fairly easy; hda1 - hda4 are primary > partitions, hda5 - logical partitions. I'm only using a single drive, > and I have no desire to overwrite the dos partition. My questions are: > > What is the naming sequence for a single IDE drive? /dev/wd0s1-4 are the four "primary partitions", known as _slices_. /dev/wd0sXa-g are the eight possible BSD partitions within a given slice. > When in fdisk, should I start on the third line? (offset 164256)? Yup. You should make a single slice covering the entire remaining space. > If I choose the "entire disk" option, will only the space starting at > offset 164256 be affected, and treated as a single partition; dos=80meg, > bsd=the rest of the drive? No, the "entire disk" option takes _the_entire_disk_, as its name suggests 8) > One other question, whats the best partitioning layout for freebsd? > In linux, I had the following: > > dos /dev/hda1 dos 80meg That would be /dev/wd0s1 > linux /dev/hda2 / 16meg > /dev/hda3 swap 16meg > /dev/hda4 extended > /dev/hda5 /usr 180meg > /dev/hda6 /usr/local 120meg > /dev/hda7 /var 32meg > /dev/hda8 /home 70meg > > The freebsd faq's, the work_in_progress Manual, etc, don't really > seem to describe a straight forward approach to partitioning. Mostly because FreeBSD uses a more conventional approach to partitioning 8) Based on your requirements above, I'd suggest : /dev/wd0s2a / 30M /dev/wd0s2b swap 32M (16M of swap is not really enough) /dev/wd0s2e /usr 100M (more if you want to put /usr/src in here) And so forth. I'd be tempted to put /var, /usr/local and /home on a single partition (say /local0) and symlink to it. This will save you lots of grief that you'd have otherwise if you outgrew a partition. > Barry Masterson Hope that's helpful. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 19:25:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA18581 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:25:20 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA18575 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:25:15 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA113265511; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:25:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199510090225.AA113265511@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA045395502; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:25:02 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 12:25:01 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just installed XFree86-3.1.2 on my 1.1.5.1 box and while running Netscape 1.12, I still got lots of complaints about key symbols for keys like up, down, left, right, page-up, page-down etc, and consequently I can't use those keys while viewing. Yes, I did set XKEYSYMDB and XNLSPATH to the path where I actually keep those files together with Netscape 1.12 distribution. Why ? Any fix for this ? As a side note, I have tried running Xnest and fvwm in it from a 2.1 snap shot within my 1.1.5.1 X server. However, every now and then, the mouse and key sequence seems to go weird and that you can't type proper character on xterm, and while pressing left, middle or right button in an xterm, it pops up the xterm ctrl-{left,middle,right}-button menu as if CTRL key is pressed which IS NOT. Has anyone has any smooth success and usage of Xnest so far ? Thanks. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHiH0kmThh0X7Um5AQEL2wQAjUdhIAIeO4aKtbuAJsOSn7eQ+r4z6wWo GUnauFA/zcCR8Vk8Ly4YW4CiHqiTFQgBCx7IFfvmTl9QC0uk/DLfgPFx2ft2RwCk F3Oo0rLeWDAl4qBgT0XDFiFbhVkIbXNlPVELk7DPJSJB2ONZYz9b7YQo9Mro4G4Q mQlDXn5P9/A= =zObR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 19:40:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA19263 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:40:11 -0700 Received: from lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA19245 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:39:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199510090239.TAA19245@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15130; Mon, 9 Oct 95 10:20:41 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: syslog question To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 10:20:40 EAT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I got a question here about syslogd : the syslogd seems to keep a track of its output files, such as maillog, maillog.0, etc.. I just don't understand how it decides when it's necessary to move up to a new file name (i.e. move maillog to maillog.0 and create a new maillog). Does anybody know the rules ? It's important for us to have the system logs as a whole part. -- Yen-Wei Liu Internet e-mail address:ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw ywliu@gate.sinica.edu.tw FAX: +886-2-783-6444 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 19:40:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA19304 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:40:43 -0700 Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA19298 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:40:39 -0700 Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/+PanixU1.2) id WAA21782; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: fdisk & partition names In-Reply-To: <199510090201.LAA08002@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for writing. I tested out the partitioning on an old 386, figured out the offset thing, and where to start the new partition. It worked out, so I started on the 486. I'll have to re-read the 'sliceing' FAQ section. I tried to add 6 partitions for bsd at first. After wd0s4e, the next three partitions were simply labled 'X'. I stopped there and loaded it as three partitions, not sure if bsd supported extended partitions. As per your suggestion of putting /usr/local on a separate partition, /usr/local is empty, but /usr/share is very big. I thought 'share' might be a better choice. Your letter helps greatly, thank you. While I've got you here, is there a 'install' procedure for installing the other programs; 'kermit.tgz', 'bash-1.14.tgz', 'top-3.3.tgz', etc. I posted this question to the Mail-list a few hours ago, but the letter shown up yet. Thanks again, Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > Based on your requirements above, I'd suggest : > > /dev/wd0s2a / 30M > /dev/wd0s2b swap 32M (16M of swap is not really enough) > /dev/wd0s2e /usr 100M (more if you want to put /usr/src in here) > > And so forth. I'd be tempted to put /var, /usr/local and /home on a single > partition (say /local0) and symlink to it. This will save you lots of grief > that you'd have otherwise if you outgrew a partition. > > Hope that's helpful. > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 20:17:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA20690 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:17:04 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20674 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:16:31 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA08457; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:11:40 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510090341.NAA08457@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: syslog question To: ywliu@lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (Yen-Wei Liu) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:11:39 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510090239.TAA19245@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Yen-Wei Liu" at Oct 9, 95 10:20:40 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 890 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Yen-Wei Liu stands accused of saying: > I got a question here about syslogd : the syslogd seems to keep a track > of its output files, such as maillog, maillog.0, etc.. > I just don't understand how it decides when it's necessary to move up > to a new file name (i.e. move maillog to maillog.0 and create a new maillog). > > Does anybody know the rules ? It's important for us to have the system logs > as a whole part. System log rotation is performed by the /etc/daily script, run by cron. > Yen-Wei Liu -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 20:20:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA20971 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:20:39 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20964 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:20:36 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA14415; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:18:30 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510090318.UAA14415@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Question on read syscall on serial port To: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510090119.LAA07559@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> from "Raoul Golan" at Oct 9, 95 11:19:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2124 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello people, > > I'm reading from a modem on /dev/cua*. It's a blocking read, > which means I expect it to wait there until data is available, > or until the modem loses carrier, or until an error occurs. > > At the moment, when the modem loses carrier, the read syscall > returns a count of 0 data read, but it does not set errno to > anything (it leaves errno with the same value it had before the > call). > > Is there any way (via an ioctl, a fcntl, an stty(?) or via some > modem configuration parameter) of having the read syscall put > some value into errno, such as ENOENT or EIO, when the modem > loses carrier? Returning 0 bytes on a blocking call is considered "Notification of EOF" This is the logical definition of loss of carrier is it not? you could arange to get a signal possibly.. (I'd have ot go back and look again).. > > I ask this because in the tip code there is a loop > that exits only once errno is set to these values. This > means that after the modem's lost carrier my tip session > fails to exit. > > The code is as follows: > > /* while some condition */ > > cnt = read(FD, buf, BUFSIZ); > if (cnt <= 0) { > /* lost carrier */ > if (cnt < 0 && errno == EIO) { > sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); > intTERM(); > /*NOTREACHED*/ > } else if (cnt == 0 && errno == ENOENT) { > kill(getppid(),SIGUSR1); > sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); > intTERM(); > /*NOTREACHED*/ > } else { > printf("%d %d\r",cnt,errno); > fflush(stdout); > } > continue; > } > /* end */ > > Thanks, > > Raoul. > hmm interesting.. lemme see what psix says.. (if anything...) nothing in read() hey are you openning cuax or ttyX? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 21:19:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA22760 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:19:47 -0700 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA22754 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:19:40 -0700 Received: from server.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa15364; 9 Oct 95 0:19 EDT Received: from stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (stretch-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU) by uvacs.cs.virginia.edu (4.1/5.1.UVA) id AA18390; Mon, 9 Oct 95 00:19:26 EDT Posted-Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by stretch.cs.Virginia.edu (4.1/SMI-2.0) id AA25444; Mon, 9 Oct 95 00:19:25 EDT Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: Gary Palmer Cc: Network Coordinator , Charles Henrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whatsup with cdrom.com ? In-Reply-To: <22580.813047246@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, Gary Palmer wrote: > I don't wcarchive has ever supported 500 users. I could be wrong I know at ome point the limit was advertised as 550 and there were on average > 490 users on at any point. I believe this was last fall. I remember this point, because I used it as a bragging feature to convice people to try FreeBSD. ;-) cheers, Adrian adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| For an application and information Programming Freedom ->| see: http://www.lpf.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 21:35:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA23221 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:21 -0700 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA23209 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:06 -0700 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma005470; Mon Oct 9 14:13:28 1995 Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma024423; Mon Oct 9 14:13:04 1995 Received: from rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.252.15]) by cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA00588; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:13:03 +1000 Received: from crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (crab.ind.tansu.com.au [149.135.100.23]) by rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA03689; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:13:02 +1000 Received: from kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (raoul@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.104.48]) by crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA24609; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:12:59 +1000 Received: (raoul@localhost) by kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA07782; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:12:58 +1000 Message-Id: <199510090412.OAA07782@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Subject: Re: Question on read syscall on serial port To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:12:58 +1000 (EST) Cc: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510090318.UAA14415@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Oct 8, 95 08:18:30 pm From: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3525 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > Hello people, > > > > I'm reading from a modem on /dev/cua*. It's a blocking read, > > which means I expect it to wait there until data is available, > > or until the modem loses carrier, or until an error occurs. > > > > At the moment, when the modem loses carrier, the read syscall > > returns a count of 0 data read, but it does not set errno to > > anything (it leaves errno with the same value it had before the > > call). > > > > Is there any way (via an ioctl, a fcntl, an stty(?) or via some > > modem configuration parameter) of having the read syscall put > > some value into errno, such as ENOENT or EIO, when the modem > > loses carrier? > Returning 0 bytes on a blocking call is considered "Notification of EOF" > > This is the logical definition of loss of carrier is it not? > you could arange to get a signal possibly.. (I'd have ot go back and look > again).. Absolutely. I've no problem with that. Except that tip checks errno in order to decide whether to exit or not (in tipout.c) If errno has not been set, it simply loops. Don't know if that's a problem with the tip code, or whether it's something else. That's why I get tip looping after the modem loses its carrier. One way of getting tipout to exit is for it to receive a signal from its parent process - I can do this by hitting any key after carrier is lost, and tipin() in tip.c will send the child a signal. > > > > > I ask this because in the tip code there is a loop > > that exits only once errno is set to these values. This > > means that after the modem's lost carrier my tip session > > fails to exit. > > > > The code is as follows: > > > > /* while some condition */ > > > > cnt = read(FD, buf, BUFSIZ); > > if (cnt <= 0) { > > /* lost carrier */ > > if (cnt < 0 && errno == EIO) { > > sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); > > intTERM(); > > /*NOTREACHED*/ > > } else if (cnt == 0 && errno == ENOENT) { > > kill(getppid(),SIGUSR1); > > sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); > > intTERM(); > > /*NOTREACHED*/ > > } else { > > printf("%d %d\r",cnt,errno); > > fflush(stdout); > > } > > continue; > > } > > /* end */ > > > > Thanks, > > > > Raoul. > > > > hmm interesting.. lemme see what psix says.. (if anything...) > nothing in read() > > hey are you openning cuax or ttyX? > My tip has been configured to open /dev/cuax. I'm assuming that tip isn't doing anything funny, and that FD points to /dev/cuax as well. I've changed the code above to be: /* while some condition */ cnt = read(FD, buf, BUFSIZ); if (cnt <= 0) { /* lost carrier */ if (cnt <= 0) { kill(getppid(),SIGUSR1); sigblock(sigmask(SIGTERM)); intTERM(); /*NOTREACHED*/ } continue; } /* end */ and now tip exits cleanly. But I wonder why it was written as it was in the first place. Raoul From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 21:35:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA23223 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:22 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA23216 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:15 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA00220; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA01160; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:35:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199510090435.VAA01160@corbin.Root.COM> To: adrian@virginia.edu cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whatsup with cdrom.com ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Oct 95 00:19:25 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 21:35:04 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, Gary Palmer wrote: > >> I don't wcarchive has ever supported 500 users. I could be wrong > > I know at ome point the limit was advertised as 550 and there >were on average > 490 users on at any point. I believe this was last >fall. I remember this point, because I used it as a bragging feature to >convice people to try FreeBSD. ;-) As has already been said, wcarchive had more memory then (192MB). I think we had the anonymous limit at around 400-450 for awhile, and it may have been as high as 500-550 for short periods. For the future (say 3-6 months from now), there are plans to upgrade the machine to handle that type of load again...we just need more memory. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 21:59:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA23724 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:59:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (dialup-4-29.gw.umn.edu [128.101.96.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA23716 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:59:32 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00186 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:56:37 -0500 From: Jon Nelson Message-Id: <199510090156.UAA00186@localhost> Subject: Deskjet/Ghostscript !? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 597 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Howdy, I've been using FreeBSD for about a month now, and am very pleased with it in every way. That's 2.0.5-RELEASE, btw. Anyway, to the point: I have a Deskjet 520 and have installed Ghostscript and Ghostview. I can use Ghostview perfectly, and I can sort-of make Ghostscript print text files, but I would like to print using lpr, and not just text files either. The unix-lpr.sh script dies somewhere, giving me a command like: error: /undefined in instructions immediately following the gsbanner and gsif header stuff. Any suggestions? Sincerely, Jon Nelson nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 8 22:09:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA24043 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:09:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (dialup-4-29.gw.umn.edu [128.101.96.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA24021 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:09:18 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA01358 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:09:16 -0500 From: Jon Nelson Message-Id: <199510090509.AAA01358@localhost> Subject: Adding new drive To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:09:15 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 483 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Howdy! I just acquired a small 30M drive, IDE, and want to add either half or all of it as swap space. What do I have to do? I am running 2.0.5R on a 486DX/2-66, 8M RAM, with a 540M HD partitioned for 200M DOS (1st par.), and 320-something for FreeBSD. My current swap is 20M, and I have a 20M / partition. The /usr partition makes up the remaining space. I have ~2M free on /, and ~25M free on /usr. DOS has ~75M free. Suggestions? Jon Nelson nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 01:04:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA29015 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:04:55 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29007 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:04:46 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA18556; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:02:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199510090802.JAA18556@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Deskjet/Ghostscript !? To: nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:02:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510090156.UAA00186@localhost> from "Jon Nelson" at Oct 8, 95 08:56:36 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1191 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Howdy, I've been using FreeBSD for about a month now, and am very pleased > with it in every way. That's 2.0.5-RELEASE, btw. Anyway, to the point: > I have a Deskjet 520 and have installed Ghostscript and Ghostview. I can > use Ghostview perfectly, and I can sort-of make Ghostscript print text files, > but I would like to print using lpr, and not just text files either. > > The unix-lpr.sh script dies somewhere, giving me a command like: What is unix-lpr.sh? Is it part of ghostscript? I'm using something like this: /etc/printcap entry: lps|lp-postscript|hp ljet III mit filter fuer PostScript:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lps:\ :sh:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/gsljps:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=laserjet -r300 -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- - Instead of laserjet you can use whatever is appropriate for your printer. Type gs -help to get the supported devices list. > > error: /undefined in instructions immediately following the gsbanner and gsif > header stuff. > > Any suggestions? > > Sincerely, > > Jon Nelson > nels0988@maroon.tc.umn.edu > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 01:48:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA01398 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:48:26 -0700 Received: from bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (root@bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.77.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA01374 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 01:48:22 -0700 Received: from lisa.rrze.uni-erlangen.de by bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de with ESMTP; id JAA02808 (8.6.11/7.3s-FAU); Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:48:04 +0100 From: Falko Dressler Message-Id: <199510090848.JAA02808@bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> Subject: XF86_S3 & emacs/other X11 clients To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:48:02 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 333 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I tried to start X11(R6/R5) clients like the GNU emacs or pcemu (with some DOS programs in it) under the XFree 3.1.1 S3 server but I failed. Everytime the server crashes with some unexpected errors. Do you have any idea how to solve this problem? Falko. -- Falko Dressler Falko.Dressler@rrze.uni-erlangen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 02:25:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA02470 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:25:49 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA02465 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:25:42 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA09237; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:17:31 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510090947.TAA09237@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: XF86_S3 & emacs/other X11 clients To: fd@bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Falko Dressler) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:17:30 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510090848.JAA02808@bsd.rrze.uni-erlangen.de> from "Falko Dressler" at Oct 9, 95 09:48:02 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1262 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Falko Dressler stands accused of saying: > I tried to start X11(R6/R5) clients like the GNU emacs or pcemu (with some DOS programs in it) > under the XFree 3.1.1 S3 server but I failed. Everytime the server crashes with some > unexpected errors. > Do you have any idea how to solve this problem? Yes. Fix the cause of the errors. > Falko Dressler Falko.Dressler@rrze.uni-erlangen.de (In case you hadn't noticed, the above language technique is called "irony". If you don't have a sense of humour, you can read the above as "No, I haven't the faintest idea how to solve the problems, and indeed you can't solve them because Xfree86 is in fact a hoax. It's really an Amiga emulator with every third byte replaced with one taken randomly from a really inaccurate translation of the Koran into sanskrit.") Mike (Who might also be a hoax, but probably isn't.) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 03:59:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA07081 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 03:59:26 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA07076 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 03:59:17 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA07378; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:58:55 +1100 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:58:55 +1100 (DST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: atapi.flp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, a couple of days ago I posted a question about the atapi.flp disk for the latest snapshot. My question was that I had an IDE CDROM connected to the second IDE controller on a pentium motherboard and 2 hard disks on the first controller. The second controller wasn't being detected so the CD wasn' detected either. I have managed to progress from here but still have some problems. I moved teh second disk to the second controller and made the CD the second device on the first controller. I don't have a BSD CD (yet) so the main point of the exercise was to see if I could detect the drive. I now get the following messages during bootup with the atapi.flp disk: wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, iordy atapi0.1: unknown phase the disk progresses through some more device probes as normal and goes to run init and then just hangs - just a blank screen with a non-blinking solid cursor in the bottom left-hand corner... can anyone help ?? Thanks Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 05:12:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA08546 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 05:12:03 -0700 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA08536 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 05:11:59 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA02228; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:54 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse HOW ?? CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510062121.OAA02111@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199510062121.OAA02111@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 6-Oct-95 Re: PS/2 mouse HOW ?? Terry Lambert@lambert.or (431*) > > > > I have a ps2 style mouse, The 5 or six pin style I have tried the one option > > that I have found in the FAQ's BUT it still doesnt work any one have > any sugestions or doc's I can look at ? > Probably your X config file is not using the correct protocol. See the > X readme's and man pages. Have you recompiled your kernel to support the psm0 device? If not, you need to do so under 2.0.5R (not sure about later snaps.) BTW -- a thought for 2.1, albeit maybe a little late in the cycle -- maybe an expanded generic kernel should be installed as part of the bindist (as opposed to from the floppy) that has a few extra devices that don't otherwise fit, such as the ps/2 mouse. A rapidly growing number of people have ps/2 mice instead of serial mice, and making all those people recompile the kernel seems silly, given a hopefully open attitude towards easy expandibiity for non-experienced users. Or something like that, anyway. ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 05:12:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA08547 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 05:12:03 -0700 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA08538 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 05:12:00 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA02228; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:54 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:11:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse HOW ?? CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510062121.OAA02111@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199510062121.OAA02111@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 6-Oct-95 Re: PS/2 mouse HOW ?? Terry Lambert@lambert.or (431*) > > > > I have a ps2 style mouse, The 5 or six pin style I have tried the one option > > that I have found in the FAQ's BUT it still doesnt work any one have > any sugestions or doc's I can look at ? > Probably your X config file is not using the correct protocol. See the > X readme's and man pages. Have you recompiled your kernel to support the psm0 device? If not, you need to do so under 2.0.5R (not sure about later snaps.) BTW -- a thought for 2.1, albeit maybe a little late in the cycle -- maybe an expanded generic kernel should be installed as part of the bindist (as opposed to from the floppy) that has a few extra devices that don't otherwise fit, such as the ps/2 mouse. A rapidly growing number of people have ps/2 mice instead of serial mice, and making all those people recompile the kernel seems silly, given a hopefully open attitude towards easy expandibiity for non-experienced users. Or something like that, anyway. ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 07:05:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA11356 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 07:05:29 -0700 Received: from Glock.COM (root@glock.com [198.82.228.165]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA11350 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 07:05:21 -0700 Received: (from mmead@localhost) by Glock.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA15884; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 -0400 () Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 -0400 () From: "matthew c. mead" Message-Id: <199510091404.KAA15884@Glock.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Local mail problems! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that on all local mail, the date lines look something like this: Mon, 9 Oct 1995, (-0400) Leaving no time in the line, which is a Bad Thing(tm). Anyone have any clues as to why? Follows is a little system info. FreeBSD Glock.COM 2.0.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 1 15:40:48 EDT 1995 mmead@Glock.COM:/usr/src/sys/compile/Glock i386 FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sun Oct 1 15:40:48 EDT 1995 mmead@Glock.COM:/usr/src/sys/compile/Glock CPU: 90-MHz Pentium 735\\90 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 41549824 (10144 pages) avail memory = 39591936 (9666 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 11 on isa ed0: address 00:40:33:20:e4:60, type NE2000 (16 bit) bpf: ed0 attached sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f on isa pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ahc0 not found npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface gus0 at 0x220 irq 15 drq 1 flags 0x3 on isa gus0: gus0: Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. pci0:0: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122d, class=bridge [not supported] pci0:7: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122e, class=bridge [not supported] vga0 rev 0 on pci0:19 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:20 ahc0: reading board settings ahc0: 294x Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 16 SCBs ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...Done ahc0: Probing channel A ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 10.0MB/s, offset = 0xf (ahc0:0:0): "MICROP 4110-09NB_Nov18F TN0F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1002MB (2053880 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 1 synchronous at 10.0MB/s, offset = 0xf (ahc0:1:0): "MICROP 4110-09NB_Nov18F TN0F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 1002MB (2053880 512 byte sectors) pci0: uses 4096 bytes of memory from f0800000 upto f0800fff. pci0: uses 256 bytes of I/O space from 6000 upto 60ff. bpf: lo0 attached -matt -- Matthew C. Mead mmead@Glock.COM | Network Administration and Software Development http://www.Glock.COM/~mmead/ | Consulting: BizNet Technologies -> mmead@bnt.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 08:59:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA14785 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:59:11 -0700 Received: from adam.framatome.fr (ubc@adam.framatome.fr [192.134.193.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA14779 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 08:58:56 -0700 Received: by adam.framatome.fr, Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:58:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:58:50 +0100 From: ubc@framatome.fr (Claude Buisson) Message-Id: <199510091558.AA09522@adam.framatome.fr> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IP accounting Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk With FreeBSD 2.0.5R, with IPACCT and IPFIREWALL: each time I do "ipfw -sa l a", it seems to add 4 packets and 280 bytes to the (bidirectionnal) accounting records, regardless of time between command execution. Any hint ? Claude Buisson Network Architect FRAMATOME Tour FIAT Cedex 16 92084 Paris La Defense FRANCE phone + (33) 1 47 96 13 08 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 09:14:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA15025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:14:58 -0700 Received: from pcca71.gallaudet.edu (root@pcca71.gallaudet.edu [134.231.56.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15020 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:14:54 -0700 Received: (from jon@localhost) by pcca71.gallaudet.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA25863; Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:17:10 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:17:10 +0000 () From: Basket Case To: Freebsd Questions Subject: FreeBSD Compatibility with Diamond Stealth 64 Video MPEG player Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi -- I was wondering if FreeBSD was compatible with the Diamond Stealth 64 MPEG player as Im thinking of buying a daugherboard so I can plug a tv into this computer -- but am wondering if someone is developing software (or if there is already one) so people can view/watch tv through x-windows or something like that? Jon From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 09:45:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA15735 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:45:30 -0700 Received: from utacnvx.uta.edu (utacnvx.uta.edu [129.107.1.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15730 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:45:28 -0700 Received: (from xxnguyen@localhost) by utacnvx.uta.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06071 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:45:19 -0500 From: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Message-Id: <199510091645.LAA06071@utacnvx.uta.edu> Subject: Problems with xterm menu! To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-questions) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 11:45:18 CDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm having problems calling up the xterm menu on my system. I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5 with a Logitech Mouseman. on XF86Config, it is set to "mouseman" with chordmiddle enabled. When I run an xterm, and use the +middlebutton, the menu does not pop up and instead a beep comes out. I know the system accepts the middle button because I can do cut and paste with it. What am I doing wrong???? -- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 10:54:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA17291 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:54:29 -0700 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA17286 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:54:27 -0700 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HW8FEMILP2004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 09 Oct 1995 10:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 10:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Video Problem To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <01HW8FEMILP4004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm having trouble with a messy screen in X, and the video card tech people suggest excluding A000-C7FF as they can be excluded in the DOS/Windows memory management line in the config.sys file. The installation is 2.0.5, generic kernel. Does this already avoid writing to the A000-C7FF area, or is there something I could add that would do this? Thanks very much-- Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 10:56:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA17385 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:56:31 -0700 Received: from upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov (upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov [156.40.112.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA17377 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 10:56:25 -0700 Received: (from crtb@localhost) by upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA28019; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:56:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:56:11 -0400 From: Chuck Bacon Message-Id: <199510091756.NAA28019@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov> To: crtb@upcoming.dcrt.nih.gov, dirk@hal.in-berlin.de Subject: Re: Perl5.001m dies quickly Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Chuck Bacon writes: > > On a 486 w/20MB running FreeBSD 2.0.5R, tried to build perl5.001m. > > I ran ./Configure and took defaults throughout. Hit return as > > suggested to run make depend, and got: > > > > Daisy10:51> make depend > > "Makefile", line 110: Need an operator > > "Makefile", line 233: Need an operator > > Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > Try to look for some extra tabs or spaces in the Makefile where > lines seem to be empty. The make-util supplied with 2.0.5R is very > strict about parsing. Thanks; I found 'em and feel a bit foolish. After all this time, I should know how to get past this nonsense ;-( > Best regards Dirk > -- > e-mail: dirk@hal.in-berlin.de PGP-Public-Key available > Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in > any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is > available to Microsoft for $1000. Posting without permission > constitutes an agreement to these terms. Bingo! How to get rich fast! Chuck Bacon -- crtb@helix.nih.gov FWIW, BTW, IMHO, AFAIK, YMMV RSN. OTOH, RTFM. TTYL. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 11:20:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18036 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:20:48 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (root@gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18031 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:20:46 -0700 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA15243; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:20:43 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #5064) id <01HW8MPJ4FYA8X54T7@wmich.edu>; Mon, 09 Oct 1995 14:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 14:20:40 -0400 (EDT) From: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> Subject: Re: Problems with xterm menu! In-reply-to: <199510091645.LAA06071@utacnvx.uta.edu> To: "Mr. TR Nguyen" Cc: freebsd-questions Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Mr. TR Nguyen wrote: > I'm having problems calling up the xterm menu on my system. > I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5 with a Logitech Mouseman. > on XF86Config, it is set to "mouseman" with chordmiddle enabled. > When I run an xterm, and use the +middlebutton, the menu does not > pop up and instead a beep comes out. > I know the system accepts the middle button because I can do cut and paste > with it. > What am I doing wrong???? I seem to have a similiar problem. I have a trackman and the middle button appears to work. Though, when using fvwm, when i click. using the middle button, the menu does not stay up. Using the F2(?) key works, but mouse support would be nice. Also my pointer seems to move slowly when i run across windows and such. This may be a low memory problem, though i experiance across the board in applications while using Xwindows. ThanX in advance! *NOTiCE* Coming Soon to an ethernet card near you iNTELLiGENSIA.ORG --> finger wirehead@arbornet.org for details <-- Timothy M. Butkiewicz *-----^\/\/|Phone: 616.349.8044 University Computing Services *----------^\/\/|Fax: 616.373.6680 Western Michigan University *---------^\/\/|eMail: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu Kalamazoo, Michigan *------------^\/\/|http://arbornet.org/~wirehead From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 11:29:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18280 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:29:33 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18264 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:29:12 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA19715; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:25:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199510091825.TAA19715@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Video Problem To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:25:36 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01HW8FEMILP4004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Oct 9, 95 10:54:52 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 743 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I'm having trouble with a messy screen in X, and the video card > tech people suggest excluding A000-C7FF as they can be excluded > in the DOS/Windows memory management line in the config.sys file. > > The installation is 2.0.5, generic kernel. Does this already > avoid writing to the A000-C7FF area, or is there something I could > add that would do this? What card are you talking about? What they said about excluding memory in the config.sys does not apply to FreeBSD. FreeBSD leaves the memory below 1MB alone (at least it doesn't interfere with it in such an unpleasant way as EMM386 would do). What does dmesg give? > > Thanks very much-- > > Annelise > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 11:45:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18644 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:45:42 -0700 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18639 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:45:40 -0700 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8660) id <01HW8GWAWCW8004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: Video Problem To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HW8GWAWCWA004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org",ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> I'm having trouble with a messy screen in X, and the video card >> tech people suggest excluding A000-C7FF as they can be excluded >> in the DOS/Windows memory management line in the config.sys file. >> >> The installation is 2.0.5, generic kernel. Does this already >> avoid writing to the A000-C7FF area, or is there something I could >> add that would do this? >What card are you talking about? What they said about excluding >memory in the config.sys does not apply to FreeBSD. FreeBSD >leaves the memory below 1MB alone (at least it doesn't interfere >with it in such an unpleasant way as EMM386 would do). If FreeBSD leaves memory below 1MB alone, then this is not the source of the problem. The card is a Diamond Stealth 32. The dot clock problem has been taken care of with the freq program. But recent postings to this group noted a number of other people having similar problems using the SVGA server. I'm using the _W32 server now and still have this problem. The Stealth 32 has an et4000w32p chip. >What does dmesg give? I don't know what kind of a message to ask about that would be relevant to this problem-- Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 11:54:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18811 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:54:16 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18805 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:54:09 -0700 Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA218184804; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:53:26 -0700 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA108164802; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:53:23 -0700 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA087414802; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:53:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199510091853.AA087414802@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: Terry Lambert Cc: alan@niceguy.isocor.ie (Alan Byrne), freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: File Corruption Problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 06 Oct 1995 14:20:11 PDT." <199510062120.OAA02102@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 11:53:21 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > The RCS tree is NFS mounted on a number of various unix platforms, and > > people check-out and check-in the files on these platforms (over NFS). > > Could the problem be related to NFS file locking problems, or is it a > > symptom of some other form of filesystem corruption. > > Are you doing potentially simultaneous updates? > > The problem is that RCS doesn't support this; use CVS instead (it's built > on top of RCS). Have the newer versions of RCS changed? We've been using NFS-mounted RCS directories for *years*, without any problems. We are, however, still using a pretty old version of RCS, which uses lock files to prevent simultaneous access. Here, if two people try to *simultaneously* access an RCS file, one person gets an "RCS file XXX is in use" error. [ Well, we did have one problem years ago, but that was caused by a networking/NFS bug, which doesn't apply to FreeBSD as these systems aren't running FreeBSD. Hmm. Now that I think of it, that problem does seem similar to Alan's, as I seem to recall the RCS files getting lots of binary zeros in them. ] -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 11:58:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA18898 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:58:53 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18890 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:58:43 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA19787; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:56:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199510091856.TAA19787@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Video Problem To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:56:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01HW8GWAWCWA004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Oct 9, 95 11:45:09 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1635 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > >> I'm having trouble with a messy screen in X, and the video card > >> tech people suggest excluding A000-C7FF as they can be excluded > >> in the DOS/Windows memory management line in the config.sys file. > >> > >> The installation is 2.0.5, generic kernel. Does this already > >> avoid writing to the A000-C7FF area, or is there something I could > >> add that would do this? > > >What card are you talking about? What they said about excluding > >memory in the config.sys does not apply to FreeBSD. FreeBSD > >leaves the memory below 1MB alone (at least it doesn't interfere > >with it in such an unpleasant way as EMM386 would do). > > If FreeBSD leaves memory below 1MB alone, then this is not the > source of the problem. The card is a Diamond Stealth 32. The > dot clock problem has been taken care of with the freq program. > But recent postings to this group noted a number of other people > having similar problems using the SVGA server. I'm using the > _W32 server now and still have this problem. The Stealth 32 > has an et4000w32p chip. Another excellent X server is AcceleratedX by Xinside,Inc. (info@xinside.com). Maybe they coped better with Diamond cards - Diamond was boykotted by the XFree86 community for their policy on techical information. I just peeked into their cards database and they support the Stealth 32. > > > > >What does dmesg give? > > I don't know what kind of a message to ask about that would be > relevant to this problem-- Just wanted to know what type of network card you have. > > Annelise > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 12:53:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA20322 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:53:07 -0700 Received: from silicon.csci.csusb.edu (silicon.csci.csusb.edu [139.182.38.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA20312 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:53:02 -0700 Received: from blaze.csci.csusb.edu by silicon.csci.csusb.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25753; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:01:49 +0800 Received: by blaze.csci.csusb.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA12021; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:39:02 -0700 From: nwestfal@blaze.csci.csusb.edu (Neal Westfall) Message-Id: <9510091939.AA12021@blaze.csci.csusb.edu> Subject: IDE probed but cannot mount To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 945 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Toshiba XM-5302B IDE cdrom drive attached to a Promise 2300Plus controller configured as slave (master is WD 1.2GB HD). I am running on 1005-SNAP, with a new kernel with the atapi support for IDE cdroms compiled in. The kernel successfully probes the cdrom drive on bootup, but I cannot mount the drive: darkside# mount -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660: /dev/wcd0c: Device not configured darkside# Is this the proper procedure? That's the way I used to mount my old mitsumi single speed drive (/dev/mcd0a). Here is output from dmesg: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordy wcd0: 689Kb/sec, 256Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked Any help appreciated. Neal Westfall nwestfal@csci.csusb.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 13:10:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA20896 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:10:47 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA20889 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:10:42 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA08932; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:08:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510092008.NAA08932@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Compatibility with Diamond Stealth 64 Video MPEG player To: jon@pcca71.gallaudet.edu (Basket Case) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:08:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Basket Case" at Oct 8, 95 12:17:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 702 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering if FreeBSD was compatible with the Diamond Stealth 64 MPEG > player as Im thinking of buying a daugherboard so I can plug a tv into this > computer -- but am wondering if someone is developing software (or if there > is already one) so people can view/watch tv through x-windows or something > like that? Contact XInside or the XFree86 Project, Inc. The card is neiter supported nor unsupported by FreeBSD. Support for the card is a matter for the X Server software to handle. All X Server software for FreeBSD is supplied by third parties. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 14:07:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA23015 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:07:08 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23006 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:07:02 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA09028; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:02:14 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510092102.OAA09028@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:02:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510090225.AA113265511@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Oct 9, 95 12:25:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1038 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just installed XFree86-3.1.2 on my 1.1.5.1 box and while running > Netscape 1.12, I still got lots of complaints about key symbols for keys > like up, down, left, right, page-up, page-down etc, and consequently I > can't use those keys while viewing. > > Yes, I did set XKEYSYMDB and XNLSPATH to the path where I actually keep > those files together with Netscape 1.12 distribution. > > Why ? Any fix for this ? Assuming you installed the X11R5 version of the internationalization files that live on Peter's 1.1.5.1 WWW home page, I'd say that it was because the BSI environment variable code is different and it doesn't see your environment variables. Use the following symlinks that everybody but you use already: ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 /usr/lib/X11 ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 That will let it find them without the environment variables. Or use an older version of NetScape. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 14:58:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA25105 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:58:25 -0700 Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA25096 ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 14:58:19 -0700 Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id WAA07712; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:58:09 +0100 From: guido@IAEhv.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199510092158.WAA07712@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Subject: ip_fil2.8 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:58:08 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 300 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone using ip_fil2.8 on an 2.0R or 2.05R system? When I compile it and do the regression tests it barfs on a few tests. Further, the ipftest program just exits without doing much on; tcpdump -n | ipftest -T -r Hope this sounds familiar to someone who already solved it ;-() -Guido From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 15:16:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA26183 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:16:28 -0700 Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (firewall-user@uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA26176 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:16:26 -0700 Received: from westhub ([148.156.21.6]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA05014 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:16:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by westhub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.950111) Message-Id: Date: 9 Oct 1995 16:18:09 -0600 From: "Owen Newnan" Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse HOW ?? To: "questions about FreeBSD" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 GM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk RE>>PS/2 mouse HOW ?? 10/9/95 Yup, I failed to mention this. XF86Config pointer device should be /dev/psm0 with protocol PS/2. If you get past the standard configuration stuff and still have problems (as several of us have) you might try warping into and out of xterms/consoles via twm define function key. Some find this alone frees up the mouse. I find that it allows me to exit, then when I startx again I'm OK. Another fellow finds if he starts up with a "real" PS/2 mouse, then after that plugs in his Logitech mouse (what I've got) then things work. See the bug and hacker archives. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 15:40:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA26838 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:40:18 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA26833 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:40:16 -0700 Received: from bir.UUCP by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.16) via UUCP id AA08894 ; Mon, 9 Oct 95 18:40:10 -0400 Received: by bir.mlksys.atl.ga.us (uA-1.6v2); Mon, 9 Oct 95 18:38:56 EST From: mlk@mlksys.atl.ga.us (Michael L. Kornegay) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: new potential user hw clarification questions... Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 18:38:56 EST Reply-To: mlk@mlksys.atl.ga.us Message-Id: <0D15DDF1.9u7601@bir.mlksys.atl.ga.us> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am in the process of purchasing a new computer and am checking to see what hw requirements FreeBSD has. I was easily able to see what PCMCIA Ethernet cards are supported. I am curious if there are any special limitations on support for PCMCIA modems including v34? Nothing was said about laptops that contain trackpoint, glidepoint and other mouse alternatives. Do such pointing devices work? Thanks, ___________________ Michael L. Kornegay Internet: mlk@mlksys.atl.ga.us UUCP: mlk@bir.uucp or bir!mlk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 16:18:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA27775 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:18:41 -0700 Received: from aurora.alaska.edu (aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA27767 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:18:36 -0700 Received: by aurora.alaska.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14May95-1234AM) id AA04310; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:17:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:17:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Quanah J Mount To: questions@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bugs... In-Reply-To: <21150.813040039@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is for the Oct. 5, 1995 SNAP. On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > 1. Please stop sending this mail to root! Thank you! > > > in the 951005 SNAP, there are a few bugs.. You cannot use telnet to > > connect to other machines, nor can other machines telnet to your machine, > > You mean, after the installation? Are you sure the network interfaces are > up? What does `ifconfig -a' say? > ifconfig -a says.. ed1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 137.229.16.64 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 137.229.16.255 ether 00:00:e8:a0:e4:3e lp0: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=10 mtu 1500 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 16:28:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA28051 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:28:47 -0700 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA28046 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:28:44 -0700 Received: from why ([142.77.242.18]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <190322-1>; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:10:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:11:28 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: A few questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just a few questions that concern me (perhaps for no reason). 1) Why does the kernal stay at secure level -1. I replaced BSDi 2.0.1 with FreeBSD 2.0.5 and BSDi always defaulted to security of 1 while FreeBSD does not. 2) If i manually set kern.securelevel to 1, XFree86 no longer works complaining about lack of access to /dev/mem. I used XFree86 with BSDi and it worked fine. Anyone have a suggestion? 3) All of the maintenance scripts run fine sending e-mail to root. Problem is, I'm not running them from cron. In fact I have no idea what is starting up these scripts at all. I'd actually prefer not to run them on my home system, but would like to have control over these things. So what starts them???? Thanks.... Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 18:50:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA01365 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:50:38 -0700 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu (root@anvil.gatech.edu [130.207.165.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA01360 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:50:35 -0700 Received: from acmex.gatech.edu (gt4722a@acmex.gatech.edu [130.207.165.22]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA29691 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:50:27 -0400 From: gt4722a@prism.gatech.edu (Brian "AGENT GORDON COLE" Atkins) Received: (gt4722a@localhost) by acmex.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA14540 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:50:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199510100150.VAA14540@acmex.gatech.edu> Subject: Win95 trashing SMC EtherPower To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:50:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1580 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Here is a strange problem that maybe someone else can help me understand. I recently installed Win95 on my computer that up till that point had been running dos and FreeBSD. Everything worked great until yesterday... I had rebooted into dos mode and stopped the loading of Win95 with a F8 and went to the "old dos" mode that the F8 menu has in it. I was trying out some CD-DA digital audio grabbers on my cdrom, and then reset the computer to go back to FreeBSD land. This was where the problem surfaced: the boot hung at the localhost ifconfig. I let it sit there for a few minutes and eventually it skipped it, but of course everything was generally screwed up. I shutdown and turned the computer off... even took the power cord out. Turned it back on; same problem. So I figure Win95 must be interfering somehow. I start it up and try removing the ethernet card from the network controls and restarting FreeBSD. Same problem. I finally solved it today, by completely chunking every last networking item, even the icons off the desktop, and telling Win95 that I was using a modem for all my telecomm needs. That finally got things working right again. My question is how did Win95 do something to my card that was so permanent it could even last through no power? Since my card is PnP, does it have some kind of non-volatile bios on it that settings are stored in? And is there some way to keep Win95 from trashing those settings? And what exactly was trashed anyway? The MB is an ASUS P55TP4XE, w/ P100 and the SMC card... Running FreeBSD 950928-SNAP + Win95(unfortunately) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 19:44:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA03295 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:44:25 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA03290 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:44:18 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA10793; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:42:19 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510100312.MAA10793@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Video Problem To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:42:18 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01HW8FEMILP4004W4V@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Oct 9, 95 10:54:52 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1363 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson stands accused of saying: > > I'm having trouble with a messy screen in X, and the video card > tech people suggest excluding A000-C7FF as they can be excluded > in the DOS/Windows memory management line in the config.sys file. You should ring the video card people back and tell them that they shouldn't try to be useful when it comes to unix systems 8) > The installation is 2.0.5, generic kernel. Does this already > avoid writing to the A000-C7FF area, or is there something I could > add that would do this? The FreeBSD kernel avoids doing anything in that area for exactly that reason. I understand from your other message that you're using an ET4000w32p-based card. Current X servers have endless grief with this chipset - I can only suspect that either the chips are a pain to program, or that useful information on them is hard to come by. In either case, the w32p is a not a good choice for X; I'd recommend an S3 based card myself. > Annelise -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 19:44:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA03354 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:44:59 -0700 Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu (PO8.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA03347 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:44:56 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA12483 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:44:54 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix23.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:43:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix23.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix23.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix23.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:43:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Win95 trashing SMC EtherPower In-Reply-To: <199510100150.VAA14540@acmex.gatech.edu> References: <199510100150.VAA14540@acmex.gatech.edu> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My general response to your SMC query is this: disable PnP both in the bios, and in the device. We configured several systems at CMU (and other places) where Win95 and FreeBSD would disagree on which plugging and playing should occur. Use your software config program (ezconfig or ezstart, most likely) to disable PnP and configure permenant non-conflicting settings. For some reason people have to run the ezconfig save twice to get it to save sometimes? Then reconfigure BSD/Win95 to match this settings. I'm not sure how much effect changing the CMUS PnP settings has, but it prevented my CMOS from deciding to switch around my comm ports for no reason I could determine (I'm on a Gateway 2000 p120.) -Robert ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 20:15:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA04972 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:15:59 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA04967 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 20:15:57 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA21669; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:10:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9510100310.AA21669@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:10:24 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: questions@FreeBSD.org, rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Win95 trashing SMC EtherPower Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >My general response to your SMC query is this: disable PnP both in the >bios, and in the device. We configured several systems at CMU (and >other places) where Win95 and FreeBSD would disagree on which plugging >and playing should occur. Use your software config program (ezconfig or >ezstart, most likely) to disable PnP and configure permenant >non-conflicting settings. For some reason people have to run the >ezconfig save twice to get it to save sometimes? Then reconfigure Yes, I had to run it twice also. I wasn't using Win95 but WfW and I am almost certain that I made the same exact changes both times. >BSD/Win95 to match this settings. I'm not sure how much effect changing >the CMUS PnP settings has, but it prevented my CMOS from deciding to >switch around my comm ports for no reason I could determine (I'm on a >Gateway 2000 p120.) Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 21:37:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA08929 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:37:20 -0700 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA08924 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:37:17 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA27616 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:12 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: disklabel/fdisk and wd1 -- help please! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This afternoon I installed an older 540 meg IDE drive I had lying around in my pentium 120 system (it had been a freebsd boot disk for my 386 system, but I wanted to up my server capacity a bit, so.. :) The drive works fine -- it's been running for a few years on the 386, and running freebsd at that. It has some oddities -- one is that it's about the 1024 cylinder limit, but that should pose no problem on a realistic operating system? That's what I thought ;). Here's my disk config order -- if anyone could point out where I made my error, I'd appreciate it a lot. I feel pretty silly -- I installed an 85 meg IDE hd in the same system yesterday ;) (I swapped that out into the 386 to make up for the loss of the 540 ;). Yes, it's configured as a slave, etc. step 1 - fdisk: ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 21:43:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA09029 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:43:36 -0700 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA09024 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 21:43:34 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA27690 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:31 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:43:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: disklabel/fdisk and wd1 -- help please! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This afternoon I installed an older 540 meg IDE drive I had lying around in my pentium 120 system (it had been a freebsd boot disk for my 386 system, but I wanted to up my server capacity a bit, so.. :) The drive works fine -- it's been running for a few years on the 386, and running freebsd at that. It has some oddities -- one is that it's about the 1024 cylinder limit, but that should pose no problem on a realistic operating system? That's what I thought ;). Here's my disk config order -- if anyone could point out where I made my error, I'd appreciate it a lot. I feel pretty silly -- I installed an 85 meg IDE hd in the same system yesterday ;) (I swapped that out into the 386 to make up for the loss of the 540 ;). Yes, it's configured as a slave, etc. step 1 - fdisk: fledge>fdisk -iu wd1 ******* Working on device wd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1060 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1060 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 1032192 (504 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 15 Do you want to change it? [n] The data for partition 1 is: Do you want to change it? [n] The data for partition 2 is: Do you want to change it? [n] The data for partition 3 is: Do you want to change it? [n] Do you want to change the active partition? [n] We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1060 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1060 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl) Information from DOS bootblock is: 0: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 1032192 (504 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 1023/ sector 63/ head 15 1: 2: 3: Should we write new partition table? [n] y ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device fledge> OK, so far so good. I was a bit worried about the cylinder counts, because when i tried to use the entire disk, it wrapped the end cylinder at 1024 when reporting on how I had set up the disk at the end. I aborted and tried again with values in the appropriate range. I think my math is right on siozes, etc, but again, any help proferred will be happily accepted ;). Step 2: disklabel (the easy part, I though ;): fledge>disklabel -e -r wd1 Bad pack magic number (label is damaged, or pack is unlabeled) fledge> That doesn't look to good... The console reported this: Oct 10 00:29:50 fledge /kernel: wd1: cannot find label (no disk label) Actually, followed by this from some further attempts: Oct 10 00:30:24 fledge last message repeated 4 times Oct 10 00:31:46 fledge last message repeated 2 times I've tried rebooting at various stages in the process to check that the core image was written out, etc. At one point it complained when scanning the system for drives (wdc0) that it couldn't find a disk label, but on the whole it just went straight on and nothing went wrong until I tried to disklabel (once or twice fdisk had to be run on the wd0 drive to update the wd1 data, I found. Rather strange.) It is hard to write a label out (especially a from-scratch label) when disklabel doesn't work. What we really need is a sysinstall it's safe to play with after installation ;). all this is so nicely autmoated in sysinstall, but once the system is up, we're left with doing it all by hand again. I question the wisdom of that particular arrangement? Anyhow, thanks for any help; I wouldn't mind if it were sooner rather than later, all things considering ;) also, sorry if the first part of the message got posted wihtout the rest -- the paste and send mouse combinations are scarily similar here ;) ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 22:05:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA09882 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:05:36 -0700 Received: from elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (elysium.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA09873 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 22:05:30 -0700 Received: (from itemple@localhost) by elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA02947; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:04:29 +1100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:56:14 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Templeton Subject: Hard disk copying To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to make an exact duplicate of a hard disk. I saw something here the other day which looked similar to what I'm after, although I didn't know it at the time. What I basically want is to be able to copy one disk, to another (obviously), where the disks are on the same SCSI2 controller, and should be the same model drive (exact model not known at this time). This is for backing up to another working drive so that one can be replaced if the other one fails (or something like that). The ability to go back the other way is not necessary. Thanks, Iain... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Iain Templeton, Grade 12 student and administrator of Unix boxes/WWW/News at Claremont College, Claremont, Tasmania, Australia. EMAIL: itemple@clare.tased.edu.au WWW: http://www.clare.tased.edu.au/~itemple/ PGP Public Key available on request (well maybe...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "A Pentium Pro - thats not a P6, thats a P5 and a bit..." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 23:01:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA12270 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:01:42 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA12265 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:01:40 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA16870; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:00:51 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510100600.XAA16870@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Hard disk copying To: itemple@elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (Iain Templeton) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Iain Templeton" at Oct 10, 95 03:56:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1379 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it possible to make an exact duplicate of a hard disk. I saw something > here the other day which looked similar to what I'm after, although I > didn't know it at the time. > > What I basically want is to be able to copy one disk, to another > (obviously), where the disks are on the same SCSI2 controller, and should > be the same model drive (exact model not known at this time). if they have the same number of blocks, then dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 bs=64k should work.. this will mail miserably if the second drive is smaller than the first :) > > This is for backing up to another working drive so that one can be > replaced if the other one fails (or something like that). The ability to > go back the other way is not necessary. > > Thanks, Iain... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Iain Templeton, Grade 12 student and administrator of Unix boxes/WWW/News at > Claremont College, Claremont, Tasmania, Australia. ah the land of real chocolate! +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ v From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 23:09:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA12516 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:09:16 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA12502 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:08:58 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA11168; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:06:13 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510100636.QAA11168@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Hard disk copying To: itemple@elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (Iain Templeton) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:06:13 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Iain Templeton" at Oct 10, 95 03:56:14 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1269 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Iain Templeton stands accused of saying: > > Is it possible to make an exact duplicate of a hard disk. I saw something > here the other day which looked similar to what I'm after, although I > didn't know it at the time. > > What I basically want is to be able to copy one disk, to another > (obviously), where the disks are on the same SCSI2 controller, and should > be the same model drive (exact model not known at this time). > > This is for backing up to another working drive so that one can be > replaced if the other one fails (or something like that). The ability to > go back the other way is not necessary. If the two are _exactly_ the same, or at least close enough, you can do this with dd on the disk device nodes. Set your blocksize fairly high (32K or so) and it should rip along. > Iain Templeton, Grade 12 student and administrator of Unix boxes/WWW/News at -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 23:13:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA12639 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:13:23 -0700 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@scunix5.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA12629 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:13:21 -0700 Received: from itsymbal-2.student.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 02:13:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 02:13:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199510100613.CAA00580@husc.harvard.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: FreeBSD & ATI Mach64 install problem (follow-up) From: itsymbal@husc.harvard.edu (Sir Ilya Tsymbal) Organization: Harvard University Reply-To: Ilya Tsymbal X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have been having a problem installing FreeBSD with Mach64 card. During the start-up phase when hardware is probed, the screen either goes blank or (depending on the monitor) shows lines. A different cideo card (Diamond SpeedStar) works fine. I have found that if I start with -c flag during boot and disable ALL com ports - sio0-3 then the card behaves appropriately. I do need to use a mouse ( at least) and preferably a modem. The ATI install disk claims the card is using Base I/O address 0x2ECh; however, with all com ports disabled it works fine if sc0 is set to either 0x2ec (card's setting) or 0x60. I have found no sure way to tell which IRQ the card is using; it seems to work fine with sc0's irq set to 1. If I leave any one com port enabled, the card will mess up. Wether or not the particular com port is actually present does not seem to make a difference. That's all the information I have; I would appreciate any input. Thank you, Ilya Tsymbal From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 9 23:55:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA15912 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:55:03 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA15884 ; Mon, 9 Oct 1995 23:54:54 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA11243; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:53:18 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510100723.QAA11243@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD & ATI Mach64 install problem (follow-up) To: itsymbal@husc.harvard.edu Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:53:17 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510100613.CAA00580@husc.harvard.edu> from "Sir Ilya Tsymbal" at Oct 10, 95 02:13:15 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1858 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sir Ilya Tsymbal stands accused of saying: > > I have been having a problem installing FreeBSD with Mach64 card. > During the start-up phase when hardware is probed, the screen either goes > blank or (depending on the monitor) shows lines. > > A different cideo card (Diamond SpeedStar) works fine. > > I have found that if I start with -c flag during boot and disable ALL com > ports - sio0-3 then the card behaves appropriately. I do need to use a > mouse ( at least) and preferably a modem. It would appear that the Mach64 in your configuration conflicts with your serial ports. > The ATI install disk claims the card is using Base I/O address 0x2ECh; > however, with all com ports disabled it works fine if sc0 is set to either > 0x2ec (card's setting) or 0x60. Leave sc0 at 0x60. It's not trying to talk to the special registers on the Mach64. > I have found no sure way to tell which IRQ the card is using; it seems to > work fine with sc0's irq set to 1. IRQ 1 is the keyboard. If the Mach64 generates any interrupts, they'll be on IRQ 9. > If I leave any one com port enabled, the card will mess up. Wether or not > the particular com port is actually present does not seem to make a > difference. Are you certain about this? 0x2ec will conflict with sio3, which is at 0x2e8. I would expect this to cause some problems. Note that most/all S3 based video boards occupy this address, and thus conflict to some degree with com4. > Ilya Tsymbal -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 01:10:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA22007 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 01:10:04 -0700 Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA21992 ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 01:09:50 -0700 Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA11883; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:02:33 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:02:33 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199510100802.SAA11883@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: itsymbal@husc.harvard.edu, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: FreeBSD & ATI Mach64 install problem (follow-up) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I have found that if I start with -c flag during boot and disable ALL com >> ports - sio0-3 then the card behaves appropriately. I do need to use a >> mouse ( at least) and preferably a modem. >It would appear that the Mach64 in your configuration conflicts with your >serial ports. Probably only sio3. >> The ATI install disk claims the card is using Base I/O address 0x2ECh; >> however, with all com ports disabled it works fine if sc0 is set to either >> 0x2ec (card's setting) or 0x60. >Leave sc0 at 0x60. It's not trying to talk to the special registers on the >Mach64. Setting it to 0x2EC is harmless because sc0 ignores the setting. This setting may even help by confusing the conflict checking code into thinking that sc0 uses ports 0x2EC-0x2FB (actually only X uses it). These addresses overlap with the normal ones for sio1 and sio3, and sc0 is probed first, so sio1 and sio3 may be skipped due to the conflict. >> If I leave any one com port enabled, the card will mess up. Wether or not >> the particular com port is actually present does not seem to make a >> difference. >Are you certain about this? 0x2ec will conflict with sio3, which is at 0x2e8. >I would expect this to cause some problems. Note that most/all S3 based >video boards occupy this address, and thus conflict to some degree with >com4. sio does an outb(0x2EC, 0) if _any_ com port is enabled :-(. It does this to handle braindamage involving edge triggered interrupts (all ports sharing an IRQ must have their IRQ enable disabled although it is only possible to use one such port so it would be natural not to configure the other ones). Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 04:47:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA00347 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 04:47:35 -0700 Received: from village.ios.com (village.ios.com [198.4.75.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA00342 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 04:47:32 -0700 Received: (from sfinn@localhost) by village.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA09117 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 07:45:29 -0400 From: Shaun Finn Message-Id: <199510101145.HAA09117@village.ios.com> Subject: Best Ethernet Card To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 07:45:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 667 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for recommendations as to the best PCI 10Mb Ethernet adapter for use with FreeBSD. I am seeing things like the 3Com 509 driver is buggy, etc...So just what is the best as far as compatibility and performance? +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Shaun M. Finn | | Technocore Communications, Inc. Email: sfinn@pobox.com | | P.O. Box 106 WWW: http://pobox.com/~sfinn/ | | Jackson, NJ 08527 FAX: (908)928-4505 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 06:18:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA02143 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 06:18:54 -0700 Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA02136 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 06:18:46 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (134.100.239.2) with smtp id ; Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:11 MET Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for itemple@elysium.CLare.tased.EDU.AU id ; Tue, 10 Oct 95 14:11 MET Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14874; Tue, 10 Oct 95 13:39:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 13:39:16 +0100 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9510101239.AA14874@wavehh.hanse.de> To: itemple@elysium.CLare.tased.EDU.AU Subject: Re: Hard disk copying Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.questions References: Reply-To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk itemple@elysium.CLare.tased.EDU.AU (Iain Templeton) writes: >Is it possible to make an exact duplicate of a hard disk. I saw something >here the other day which looked similar to what I'm after, although I >didn't know it at the time. >What I basically want is to be able to copy one disk, to another >(obviously), where the disks are on the same SCSI2 controller, and should >be the same model drive (exact model not known at this time). >This is for backing up to another working drive so that one can be >replaced if the other one fails (or something like that). The ability to >go back the other way is not necessary. I ususally use newfs /dev/target_partition #mount it cd /mount_of_new_filefilesystem dump 0sf 400000 - /usr_or_whatever | restore rf - Of course, this is on per-partition, not per-disk base, but has the advantage that it works for different-sized partitions. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 07:24:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA04225 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 07:24:30 -0700 Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA04213 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 07:24:13 -0700 Received: (from werner@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA04489 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:27:44 +0100 From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199510101427.PAA04489@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: ps %cpu To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:27:43 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 286 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE ps reports a wrong cpu-usage: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 3473 112.3 4.3 152 616 ?? RN 2:44PM 28:56.80 /users/batch/t ^^^^^ Top means 89% which is the right value I believe. Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 08:35:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA23229 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 08:35:36 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA23219 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 08:35:29 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10002; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:35:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:35:19 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510101535.AA10002@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Andrew Herdman Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: A few questions In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > 1) Why does the kernal stay at secure level -1. I replaced BSDi 2.0.1 > with FreeBSD 2.0.5 and BSDi always defaulted to security of 1 while > FreeBSD does not. Because FreeBSD is a system undergoing continuous development, and it is unacceptable for the developers to have to shut down to single-user just to install new binaries. If you wish to have the 4.4-style automatic securelevel, you should delete the `= -1' initialization in kern_sysctl.c. > 2) If i manually set kern.securelevel to 1, XFree86 no longer works > complaining about lack of access to /dev/mem. I used XFree86 > with BSDi and it worked fine. Anyone have a suggestion? >From init(8): 1 Secure mode - immutable and append-only flags may not be changed; disks for mounted filesystems, /dev/mem, and /dev/kmem are read- only. X can't write to your video card's memory. > 3) All of the maintenance scripts run fine sending e-mail to root. Problem > is, I'm not running them from cron. Yes you are. root's crontab is in /etc/crontab. Don't attempt to use the crontab(1) command to modify this, it simply won't work. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 10:02:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA25694 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:02:24 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25684 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:02:19 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA04725; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:00:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199510101700.KAA04725@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: Andrew Herdman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A few questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:35:19 EDT." <9510101535.AA10002@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:00:47 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>From init(8): > > 1 Secure mode - immutable and append-only flags may not be changed; > disks for mounted filesystems, /dev/mem, and /dev/kmem are read- > only. > >X can't write to your video card's memory. It be nice if you could still run X while in secure mode 1 (or perhaps we should add an extra secure level so you could do this?) without having all of /dev/mem R/W. >-GAWollman > >-- >Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... >wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. >Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like peopl >e >MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 10:06:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA25875 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:06:37 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA25867 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 10:06:32 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10186; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:06:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:06:24 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510101706.AA10186@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: Andrew Herdman , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A few questions In-Reply-To: <199510101700.KAA04725@aslan.cdrom.com> References: <9510101535.AA10002@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199510101700.KAA04725@aslan.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > It be nice if you could still run X while in secure mode 1 (or perhaps we > should add an extra secure level so you could do this?) without having > all of /dev/mem R/W. The problem is that some devices out there need to have their framebuffers reprogrammed into some arbitrary, large range of memory (outside the I/O hole). Allowing access to an arbitrary range of memory is tantamount to allowing access to all memory, which is the source of the problem. The X server also creates problems by its need to do in/out instructions. /dev/io should not be openable in secure mode, either. I have a number of times suggested that the right thing to do is to add a special ``privileged'' flag to indicate to the system that a binary should be allowed to do this. (Obviously, it can only be turned on by root in single-user mode.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 11:16:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA28369 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:16:17 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA28363 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:16:06 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA10683; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:09:21 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510101809.LAA10683@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Hard disk copying To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 11:09:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: itemple@elysium.CLare.tased.EDU.AU, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9510101239.AA14874@wavehh.hanse.de> from "Martin Cracauer" at Oct 10, 95 01:39:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 537 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > newfs /dev/target_partition > #mount it > cd /mount_of_new_filefilesystem > dump 0sf 400000 - /usr_or_whatever | restore rf - > > Of course, this is on per-partition, not per-disk base, but has the > advantage that it works for different-sized partitions. It also works while mounted. The previous suggestion would have left the copy of the drive in an inconsistant state if it were mounted. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 12:39:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01399 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:39:10 -0700 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01391 ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:39:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:39:08 -0700 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199510101939.MAA01391@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gibbs@freefall.FreeBSD.org, wollman@lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: A few questions Cc: andrew@whine.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It be nice if you could still run X while in secure mode 1 (or perhaps we should add an extra secure level so you could do this?) without having all of /dev/mem R/W. XFree86 is atypical in that most workstation vendors provide fb support inside the kernel for their X servers, hence there's no need for kludges like mmapping /dev/mem (instead you get os specific kludges like opening /dev/fb and doing kludgy ioctls on the fb device). Ditto for input devices like mice and keyboard. Given the number of devices and operating systems XFree86 supports, I'm not sure putting everything below user level is practical. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 12:52:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA01783 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:52:19 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA01778 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:52:17 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA19996; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:55:44 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:55:43 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Return reciepts? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does sendmail as a daemon support return receipts in sending e-mail? I have not been able to make this happen. I am using Pine 3.91 for my front end. Is this a SMTP option only? Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 13:06:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA02147 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:06:21 -0700 Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu (PO8.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02138 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:06:15 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA10572 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:06:09 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix23.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix23.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix23.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix23.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:05:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: bad144 on a 1gig IDE drive Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes, it's me, the one with numerous NIS, wd1, etc, problems. Well, those are all fixed ;). However, now I have to deal with a set of bad blocks that inopportunely turned up in my /var partition. It's going to be one of those days, I think (so far in the last two days: failed to install a 540 meg IDE drive for about 18+ housr). I have set several bad144 sessions going over the past 8 hours, trying to get some combination and setup that is happy, and have had a variety of problems, but so far been unable to mark any bad blocks with it. It scans fine, and finds them, they just don't get marked because bad144 aborts each time. This time it got.. ... Block: 271516 will be marked BAD. Block: 271517 will be marked BAD. Block: 271518 will be marked BAD. Too many bad sectors, can only handle 126 per slice. fledge> Which seems logical, only leaving the question what to do about it. It also failed with a variety of sn# errors earlier, but that seems to have stopped for now. As far as I know, badsect is the other bad sector handling program -- does anyopne have any particular advice as to how to pull all the information together and block off the sectors from general use? I assume some script combining bad144 to get the bad block numbers, and then badsect to create a file over them, but I honestly don't know, as I haven't dealt with this problem before. Is there any way to turn up the number of sectors handled by bad144, or a premade script someone has lying around to block out such sectors? Thanks.. Robert ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 13:29:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA02712 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:29:26 -0700 Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA02706 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:29:21 -0700 Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA07112; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:29:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:29:18 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199510102029.NAA07112@ns.via.net> To: support@cdrom.com Subject: Adding a 2'nd disk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a 2'nd scsi frive that I wish to add to my FreeBSD system. It will be unix only - no DOS partitions. What is the procedure for getting a label on the disk? -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 13:47:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA03587 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:47:28 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA03582 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:47:24 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA20260; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:50:51 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:50:51 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: questions on FreeBSD Subject: Darn Windows Apps. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has their been any work on running Windows apps in X11 that anybody knows about? I have heard that a few commercial products are available --but you have to pay for them dearly... I would love to assist in anything to better prove this Operating System blows away Windows NT. Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 14:16:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA05052 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:16:11 -0700 Received: from vhf.dataradio.com (G496.InterLink.NET [198.168.61.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA05043 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:15:57 -0700 Received: from dri.UUCP (udri@localhost) by vhf.dataradio.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA10876 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:14:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199510102114.RAA10876@vhf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.4a); Tue 10 Oct 1995 17:12:50 EDT From: "Andrew Webster" To: Joe McGuckin Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:12:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Adding a 2'nd disk CC: questions@freebsd.org X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 13:29:18 -0700 > From: Joe McGuckin > To: support@cdrom.com > Subject: Adding a 2'nd disk > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > I have a 2'nd scsi frive that I wish to add to my FreeBSD system. > It will be unix only - no DOS partitions. > > What is the procedure for getting a label on the disk? > > -joe > Again, Here is Seppo Kalio's excellent documentation on how to add a second disk. Thanks for everyone who did help me! I hope we did all learn something. I have now done this about 10 times and now I feel I know something about it. I agree with John Capo that it is trivial after you know how to do it ;-). And I agree that the biggest problem is fdisk. It is not trivial what parameters you have change and how! The disklabel -e -r sd1 is not so hard to use. Nor newfs or mount ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Here final (?) text how to do it. Or how I have done it. In an example here I have 80MB SCSI disk (in a AHA 2940 controller), FreeBSD 2.0.5R. You have to start with fdisk (# -lines written by me): # fdisk -i -u /dev/rsd1 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) # The cylinder count is nonsence, the disk is 80-81 MB, # so it should be 80 or 81. Head and sector count OK. # On all Adaptec controlled disks heads=64 and sectors=32 # The head count has nothing to do with the disk drive hardware # head count. Same with cylinder and sector count. Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] n # Wrong cylinder count does not matter, forward! Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 # This should be: "First sector must be 1" Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) # Sysid you must know it is 165, it is zero when you have empty disk # Where are the docs about this? start 32, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 Do you want to change it? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "sysid" [0] 165 # FreeBSD = 165 Supply a decimal value for "start" [0] 0 # 0 (32 on bootdisk?) Supply a decimal value for "size" [0] 163840 # This comes from 80*32*64 # If bootdisk, you must substract 2048 (=32*64) ????????? Explicitly specifiy beg/end address ? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "beginning cylinder" [0] # (* Supply a decimal value for "beginning head" [0] # (* Supply a decimal value for "beginning sector" [0] 1 # Must be 1 (* Supply a decimal value for "ending cylinder" [0] 79 # Cylinders 0 to 79=80 Supply a decimal value for "ending head" [0] 63 # (* Supply a decimal value for "ending sector" [0] 32 # (* sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 Are we happy with this entry? [n] # (* are same to all disks in Adaptec SCSI controllers. # Ending cylinder is same number as the MB count minus one (here 80-1) The data for partition 1 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 2 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 3 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n Do you want to change the active partition? [n] n We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Information from DOS bootblock is: 0: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 1: 2: 3: Should we write new partition table? [n] y # if all is correct # you will get following error message, forget it. ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device # Then start disklabel -e -r sd1 # You will get a screen something like: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: d80mb label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 80 sectors/unit: 165888 rpm: 3600 # If this is zero, put here 3600 interleave: 1 # If this is zero, put here 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # Uh? # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 163840 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 79) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # c: is the whole disk, do not touch it! # I want to add one 10MB swap to this disk, rest space for files. # So I write to extra lines (before the c: -line): a: 143840 20000 4.2BSD 0 0 b: 20000 0 swap # Note: the sum of size fields is a+b=c. The offset is the starting # block number of the partition. When swap starts from 0 and is # 20000 blocks then next partition starts from 20000. # The extra zeroes on a: line mus be there! # There it is. Exit from editor, if errors try to correct. # Next make filesystem: # newfs /dev/rsd1a Warning: calculated sectors per cylinder (4096) disagrees with disk label (2048) Warning: 3136 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 123840 sectors in 31 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 60.5MB in 2 cyl groups (16 c/g, 32.00MB/g, 7680 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, 65568, # So some sectors could be defined more .. this terminology is awfull: # Here newfs is speaking about 3136 sectors. In fdisk we define that # the disk has 32 sectors! # These must be blocks of 512 bytes, or what are they???? 3136 blocks # is 1605632 bytes that is 1.6MB. The actual size of my disk is more # than 80MB, it is about 81 MB. # And mount it: # mount /dev/sd1a /mnt # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 96143 30253 58198 34% / /dev/sd0s1f 1404471 741255 550858 57% /home /dev/sd0s1e 387503 273317 83185 77% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc kaarna:/home/www 1518207 1310531 86219 94% /opt/www /dev/sd1a 59951 1 55153 0% /mnt # If you get to this point, you are lucky. It is not easy. The # fdisk is the hardest part. Seppo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 14:50:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA06241 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:50:52 -0700 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA06236 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:50:47 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA20325 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:39 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:50:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: bad144 -- how to get a list of bad sectors > 126 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk speaking of bad144 -- is there any way to get a list of sectors above the 126 limit? bad144 aborts after the first 126 without (apparently) writing the list, and won't tell me about any of the sectors over that limit, and badsect seems to require the list to be extracted from the disk in order to run. My vendor is reluctant to replace my drive while I'm running FreeBSD because it is not a supported OS, so I'd rather just sacrifice 48k of my HD or something and have a working system than dump FreeBSD (I'll get a new drive at some point to add to the current setup, and will replace the old one then.) Any help would be appreciated (reslicing isn't really an option at this point, as I'm running a pop mail server for a large numnber of people, a web site, and a name server.) Thanks.. Robert ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 15:09:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA06961 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:09:56 -0700 Received: from localhost.infi.net (h-coopa.dc.infi.net [204.117.149.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA06956 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:09:48 -0700 Received: (from ron@localhost) by localhost.infi.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01796; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:12:33 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:05:54 +0000 From: ron Subject: pine setup/bug? To: question freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the processing of changing ISPs, I have been trying to get pine (3.87) configured for use the correct return address. No matter what it do it uses the user name on the client system rather than on the IMAP server. I finally had to clone my account on my local system with the user name that I have on my ISP's IMAP server. This seems like an enourmous security hole as well as being cumbersome. Is there a way around this that isn't documented in the .pinerc or pine.conf files? Is this fixed in newer versions of pine? Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 15:12:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA07092 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:12:46 -0700 Received: from aurora.alaska.edu (aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA07086 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:12:41 -0700 Received: by aurora.alaska.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14May95-1234AM) id AA31788; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:11:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:11:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Quanah J Mount To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: *sigh* Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, since I have recieved no response from you, and I have yet to get any version of FreeBSD to work, I'm going to switch back to Linux. Perhaps someday you'll get a working operating system going. If so, maybe I'll try FreeBSD again, but until that time, I'm going to stick with something thats a bit more stable. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 15:58:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA08408 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:58:34 -0700 Received: from bigdipper.iagi.net (bigdipper.iagi.net [204.157.123.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08391 ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:58:30 -0700 Received: (from adhir@localhost) by bigdipper.iagi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA05736; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:01:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:01:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: questions@freebsd.org cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Boot off of sd0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey all - we recently suffered the death of a 2 gig Quantum Empire due to over heating (the server room AC vent was off and poof went the disk). In any case, I've reinstalled and restored most of our data off of backups and fortunately we're back to where we were without too much loss. The problem I'm having is that I can't get the system (running 951005-snap of 2.1-stable) to boot off of sd0. I think I may have screwed something up during the disklabel portion of the custom install. If I boot without a floppy in the drive, I get a "Missing Operating System" message from the BIOS (I assume its from the BIOS, anyway). If I boot off of a boot floppy and enter "sd(0,a)/kernel" at the boot prompt, everything comes up beautifully. I have used "fdisk -a" to set the first partition (0) active (the entire disk, a Seagate 4 gig Hawk, is dedicated to FreeBSD) and have run "disklabel -B sd0". The server's up and running (production) as we speak, so I can't test to see if what I did worked without interrupting my users. I just want to make sure that what I did is correct before I reboot the system tonight around 2am (I won't be near the machine when I boot it so if what I did is NOT correct, I'll have to drive to the office in my jammies to boot it). Is there anything else I need to do to get the system to boot off of sd(0,a)/kernel other than setting the active partition to 0 and "disklabel -B"? Here's the output from fdisk: ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=9595 heads=19 sectors/track=46 (874 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=9595 heads=19 sectors/track=46 (874 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 46, size 8385984 (4094 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 1023/ sector 46/ head 18 The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: And here's the output from "disklabel sd0": # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: sd0s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 46 tracks/cylinder: 19 sectors/cylinder: 874 cylinders: 9594 sectors/unit: 8385984 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 204800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 234*) b: 262144 204800 swap # (Cyl. 234*- 534*) c: 8385984 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 9594*) e: 4096000 466944 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 534*- 5220*) f: 3823040 4562944 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 5220*- 9594*) Please advise... Thanks! Alok K. Dhir Internet Access Group, Inc. adhir@iagi.net (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 http://www.iagi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:10:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA08822 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:10:57 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA08809 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:10:52 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11392; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:08:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510102308.QAA11392@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: *sigh* To: fxqjm@aurora.alaska.edu (Quanah J Mount) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:08:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Quanah J Mount" at Oct 10, 95 02:11:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 510 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Well, since I have recieved no response from you, and I have yet to get > any version of FreeBSD to work, I'm going to switch back to Linux. > Perhaps someday you'll get a working operating system going. If so, > maybe I'll try FreeBSD again, but until that time, I'm going to stick > with something thats a bit more stable. Perhaps if you sent us a question... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:23:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA09385 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:23:06 -0700 Received: from aurora.alaska.edu (aurora.alaska.edu [137.229.18.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA09380 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:23:01 -0700 Received: by aurora.alaska.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14May95-1234AM) id AA08310; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:19:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:19:04 -0800 (AKDT) From: Quanah J Mount To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *sigh* In-Reply-To: <199510102308.QAA11392@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I did... On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Well, since I have recieved no response from you, and I have yet to get > > any version of FreeBSD to work, I'm going to switch back to Linux. > > Perhaps someday you'll get a working operating system going. If so, > > maybe I'll try FreeBSD again, but until that time, I'm going to stick > > with something thats a bit more stable. > > Perhaps if you sent us a question... > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:33:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA09842 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:33:02 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA09832 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:32:59 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07469; Tue, 10 Oct 95 17:32:50 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28330; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:32:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:32:48 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9510102332.AA28330@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: nathan@netrail.net Cc: freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Nathan Stratton on Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:12:38 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: NEWS server Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Stratton writes: Nathan> I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD Nathan> as our news erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a Nathan> lot. Whoa ... I think this is the first time I've seen ``slow'' and ``FreeBSD'' in the same paragraph. What version of FreeBSD is this? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Move you roommate's personal effects around. Start subtlely. Gradually work up to big things, and eventually glue everything he/she owns to the ceiling. -- One of 120 ways to annoy your roommate. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:39:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA10257 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:39:18 -0700 Received: from netrail.net (nathan@netrail.net [204.117.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA10250 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:39:15 -0700 Received: (from nathan@localhost) by netrail.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA06161; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:12:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:12:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Stratton To: freebsd-isp@netrail.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: NEWS server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD as our news erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a lot. So this is the question. Should I upgrade to a P133 with 128 Megs ram or a Sparc 5 110 MHZ with 128 megs ram. If I go with the Sparc can I run FreeBSD on it? Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:45:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA10564 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:45:59 -0700 Received: from vbc.net (jdd@vbc.net [204.137.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA10558 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:45:54 -0700 Received: (from jdd@localhost) by vbc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA27180; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:45:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Dixon To: Nathan Stratton cc: freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NEWS server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD as our news > erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a lot. So this is the question. We are just about to build a news machine to just that spec, so your problems are of considerable interest to us. Our experience has been that 486-100s on news machines hover around the 85% idle level and that their performance is limited by the bandwidth to the disks. What sort of drives are you running and how are they set up? > Should I upgrade to a P133 with 128 Megs ram or a Sparc 5 110 MHZ with > 128 megs ram. If I go with the Sparc can I run FreeBSD on it? These may be the wrong questions. -- Jim Dixon jdd@vbc.net VP Engineering VBCnet West Inc 408 971 2682 fax 408 971 2684 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 16:54:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA11178 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:54:56 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA11173 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:54:53 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00426; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:54:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199510102354.QAA00426@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Quanah J Mount cc: Terry Lambert , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *sigh* In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 1995 15:19:04 -0800." Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:54:12 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Well, since I have recieved no response from you, and I have yet to get > any version of FreeBSD to work, I'm going to switch back to Linux. > Perhaps someday you'll get a working operating system going. If so, > maybe I'll try FreeBSD again, but until that time, I'm going to stick > with something thats a bit more stable. Well, your question was recieved by Freefall at Mon Oct 9 16:18:41 1995 which means that most people on this list didn't even see it until earlier this morning. It amuses me to think that you expect < 24h response from a *free* service. As far as stability, the SNAPSHOTs are "BETA" quality test releases, and anyone here knows that they are not the final *stable* product that will be 2.1. Anyway, I'll answer your question. Just as a refresher, this is what I pulled out of the mail archives: > On Fri, 6 Oct 1995, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > 1. Please stop sending this mail to root! Thank you! > > > > > in the 951005 SNAP, there are a few bugs.. You cannot use telnet to > > > connect to other machines, nor can other machines telnet to your machine, > > > > You mean, after the installation? Are you sure the network interfaces are > > up? What does `ifconfig -a' say? > > > ifconfig -a says.. The problem has to do with the installation of secure telnet and is being addressed right now. It should be fixed by for the next snapshot which should be availible tomorrow sometime. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 17:03:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA11806 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:03:25 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA11794 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:03:22 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11538; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:57:56 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510102357.QAA11538@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:57:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199510102348.AA081798893@relay.hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Oct 11, 95 09:48:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1652 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > lespoir:/local/src/netscape-v112 118 > ./netscape -install > netscape: uname() failed; can't tell what system we're running on > netscape: The Motif keysyms seem not to be defined. > > This is usually because the proper XKeysymDB file was not found. > You can set the $XKEYSYMDB environment variable to the location > of a file which contains the right keysyms. > > Without the right XKeysymDB, many warnings will be generated, > and most keyboard accelerators will not work. > > (An appropriate XKeysymDB file was included with the Netscape > distribution.) > > Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft > Warning: ... found while parsing 'Meta ~CtrlosfLeft: back()' > Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfLeft > Warning: ... found while parsing ' Alt ~CtrlosfLeft: back()' You are still missing the boat. You have installed an X11R6 server and Netscape is linked against X11R5 libraries. You are probably missing the R5 keysym localization data. It will be located in /usr/lib/X11/nls. Assuming you found it somewhere and installed it. Without this data file, it will not have translations bound for the XKeysymDB file to look up for your keys. Even if your keysymdb exists. This is tantamount to fixing a problem with your password file and complaining that you still can't login, when really the problem is that your shell doesn't exist. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 17:27:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA12853 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:27:54 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA12848 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:27:48 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA112001264; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:27:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199510110027.AA112001264@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA226821260; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:27:40 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Re: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:27:38 EST Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510102357.QAA11538@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 10, 95 4:57 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > You are still missing the boat. You have installed an X11R6 server and > Netscape is linked against X11R5 libraries. No, I'm not, you are, 8-). I was saying that I HAD the R5 localization data installed in /usr/lib/X11/nls when running XFree86-3.1.2 SVGA X server. The nls files are EXACTLY the same for Netscape 1.12 BSDI distribution and what Peter posted. > You are probably missing the R5 keysym localization data. I am definitely not missing it as it is sitting in _ | > It will be located in /usr/lib/X11/nls. <---------- > Assuming you found it somewhere and installed it. Yes I did, indeed. > Without this data file, it will not have translations bound for the > XKeysymDB file to look up for your keys. > Even if your keysymdb exists. > This is tantamount to fixing a problem with your password file and > complaining that you still can't login, when really the problem is > that your shell doesn't exist. 8-). 8-))))) > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHsPLEmThh0X7Um5AQGgBgQAizJoLEGXvWa0wbmpMWEAVg8arFziizpc ueTdnop4D80GNEHXCWyRmXKVPoOLDFgh1PtIQ2r3chG36QMacoZHEQ50nTGJh7iP w5FN08m+8YV/dOmZcbhBp6JvBRzXFNsamgSyoVb1UigXrdNfeif4gdLqID6rndX9 vNqOjAbKKkg= =GVcT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 17:42:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA13408 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:42:14 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (root@gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA13403 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:42:11 -0700 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id UAA09234 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:42:06 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #5064) id <01HWAEBP6FDS8X5HJZ@wmich.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:42:02 -0400 (EDT) From: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> Subject: Login message of the day (per say) To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a motd type message to the outside of the login prompt. By this I mean when someone firts encounters my machine i would like to display that "Welcome blah, blah, blah.... Login as guest Password is guest" I tried to set this up by putting a file in /etc called issue and then I sym linked it with issue.net (also in /etc), to no avail. Does some one have the answer? ThanX for your time! Timothy M. Butkiewicz *-----^\/\/|Phone: 616.349.8044 University Computing Services *----------^\/\/|Fax: 616.373.6680 Western Michigan University *---------^\/\/|eMail: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu Kalamazoo, Michigan *------------^\/\/|http://arbornet.org/~wirehead From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 17:54:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA14051 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:54:24 -0700 Received: from terra.aros.net (angio@[205.164.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA14025 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:54:20 -0700 Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA11745; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:53:55 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199510110053.SAA11745@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: NEWS server To: jdd@vbc.net (Jim Dixon) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: nathan@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jim Dixon" at Oct 10, 95 04:45:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1583 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Jim Dixon once said: > problems are of considerable interest to us. Our experience has been > that 486-100s on news machines hover around the 85% idle level and that > their performance is limited by the bandwidth to the disks. What sort > of drives are you running and how are they set up? > > > Should I upgrade to a P133 with 128 Megs ram or a Sparc 5 110 MHZ with > > 128 megs ram. If I go with the Sparc can I run FreeBSD on it? > > These may be the wrong questions. Our news server is a P100 with 32mb ram, an adaptec 2940 PCI controller, etc, with news distributed across 3 drives (one for the history files, one for just news, and one for alt.binaries). A look at top reveals: Cpu states: 0.4% user, 2.3% nice, 3.5% system, 3.1% interrupt, 90.7% idle There were 10 users reading news as of that snapshot. By *far* our biggest limitation is in the disk area. The best thing about going pentium is the PCI disk controllers (I've never had too much luck with the 486 pci stuff, but perhaps we just didn't get lucky with them). The excess processing power of the pentium is almost always sitting around wasted. More ram and better disk controllers are probably a better bet. Buying a P133 would be an extreme waste, especially over a p90 or 100. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 17:56:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA14248 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:56:24 -0700 Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA14240 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:56:20 -0700 Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA25420; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:00:13 -0600 From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199510110100.TAA25420@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Login message of the day (per say) To: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu (-=WireHead=-) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "-=WireHead=-" at Oct 10, 95 08:42:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 479 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [Timothy M. Butkiewicz wrote] > I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a motd type message to the > outside of the login prompt. ... Change the `default' entry in /etc/gettytab. The 'im=' field controls the message issued before the password prompt. -Ade Barkah -------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - www: -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 18:05:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA14822 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:05:13 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA14808 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:05:04 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA12957; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:03:29 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510110133.LAA12957@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Return reciepts? To: root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:03:28 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" at Oct 10, 95 03:55:43 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 932 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT stands accused of saying: > > Does sendmail as a daemon support return receipts in sending e-mail? > I have not been able to make this happen. I am using Pine 3.91 for my > front end. Is this a SMTP option only? If by 'return receipts' you mean 'so-and-so has read your mail' messages, sendmail has no business sending them, so no, it wouldn't. Receipts are inherently evil anyway. If you don't get a error, it means that it worked and you don't have to worry about it. KISS. > - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 18:17:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA15570 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:17:56 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA15544 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:17:44 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA13006; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:16:54 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510110146.LAA13006@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: bad144 -- how to get a list of bad sectors > 126 To: rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert N Watson) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:16:54 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert N Watson" at Oct 10, 95 05:50:29 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1828 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert N Watson stands accused of saying: > > speaking of bad144 -- is there any way to get a list of sectors above > the 126 limit? bad144 aborts after the first 126 without (apparently) > writing the list, and won't tell me about any of the sectors over that > limit, and badsect seems to require the list to be extracted from the > disk in order to run. My vendor is reluctant to replace my drive while > I'm running FreeBSD because it is not a supported OS, so I'd rather just > sacrifice 48k of my HD or something and have a working system than dump > FreeBSD (I'll get a new drive at some point to add to the current setup, > and will replace the old one then.) Any help would be appreciated > (reslicing isn't really an option at this point, as I'm running a pop > mail server for a large numnber of people, a web site, and a name > server.) First : if your drive has more than 126 bad sectors as supplied, you should be throwing it through your vendor's window, not politely asking for a replacement. If the drive is halfway decent, it probably also has bad sector forwarding, so you may have several hundred more bad sectors than you think. A drive with more than a few bad sectors is probably on the way out anyway, so I wouldn't be trusting it to begin with. If you _must_ use this drive, look at badsect(8) and see if you can pull things off with that. > Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 19:21:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA17276 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:21:05 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17256 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:21:00 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id WAA22163; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:09:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:09:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Return reciepts? To: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sendmail book from o'reilly specifically warns against doing this. p583 On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT wrote: > > Does sendmail as a daemon support return receipts in sending e-mail? > I have not been able to make this happen. I am using Pine 3.91 for my > front end. Is this a SMTP option only? > Jeff > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - > - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - > - Computer Technician / Programmer - > - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - > - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - > - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - > - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 19:33:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA17885 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:33:33 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17873 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:33:26 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA13157; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:30:02 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510110300.MAA13157@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: *sigh* To: fxqjm@aurora.alaska.edu (Quanah J Mount) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:30:02 +0930 (CST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Quanah J Mount" at Oct 10, 95 03:19:04 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 644 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Quanah J Mount stands accused of saying: > > I did... Insults aside, with a name like yours, I would have rememberd it. If you sent it, I never saw it. > On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Perhaps if you sent us a question... > > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 19:35:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA18095 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:35:19 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA18089 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:35:14 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id WAA22652; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:23:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:23:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: NEWS server To: Nathan Stratton cc: freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD as our news > erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a lot. So this is the question. > Should I upgrade to a P133 with 128 Megs ram or a Sparc 5 110 MHZ with > 128 megs ram. If I go with the Sparc can I run FreeBSD on it? huh! are you running a full usenet feed?? even my dinky 386dx40 16mb box handles 20,000 articles a day while doing all the mail and anon-ftp services for this site. can you provide more information please. > > > Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. > Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 > Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 > WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 19:42:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA18469 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:42:51 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA18458 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 19:42:45 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id WAA22734; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:31:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Return reciepts? To: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > sendmail book from o'reilly specifically warns against doing > this. p583 re-reading this page leads me to say DON'T DO THIS. THIS IS EVIL. you can create mail storms as once receipt causes another to be sent ad infinitum. > > > On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT wrote: > > > > > Does sendmail as a daemon support return receipts in sending e-mail? > > I have not been able to make this happen. I am using Pine 3.91 for my > > front end. Is this a SMTP option only? > > Jeff > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - > > - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - > > - Computer Technician / Programmer - > > - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - > > - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - > > - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - > > - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > > > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. > FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy > play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 > ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 > > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:13:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA19526 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:13:41 -0700 Received: from netrail.net (nathan@netrail.net [204.117.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA19516 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:13:34 -0700 Received: (from nathan@localhost) by netrail.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13157; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:15:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Stratton To: Sean Kelly cc: freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NEWS server In-Reply-To: <9510102332.AA28330@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > >>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Stratton writes: > > Nathan> I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD > Nathan> as our news erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a > Nathan> lot. > > Whoa ... I think this is the first time I've seen ``slow'' and > ``FreeBSD'' in the same paragraph. What version of FreeBSD is this? Well, I am running 2.0.5, but I do not think is is FreeBSD, but the fact that there is a TON of data gogin through that box. We have full feeds from MCI, Sprint, and UUNet. We also send full feeds to several sites. Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:16:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA19675 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:16:32 -0700 Received: from netrail.net (nathan@netrail.net [204.117.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA19669 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:16:28 -0700 Received: (from nathan@localhost) by netrail.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13240; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:17:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:17:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Stratton To: Jim Dixon cc: freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NEWS server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Jim Dixon wrote: > On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > > I am using a 486 DX4 100 with 64 Meg ram running FreeBSD as our news > > erver. Thsi box has been slow and crashes a lot. So this is the question. > > We are just about to build a news machine to just that spec, so your > problems are of considerable interest to us. Our experience has been > that 486-100s on news machines hover around the 85% idle level and that > their performance is limited by the bandwidth to the disks. What sort > of drives are you running and how are they set up? We have a 1 gig Coner, and a 4.2 gig Segate Hawk. I do not think our problem is CPU, but IO. Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:30:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA20175 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:30:18 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20167 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:30:08 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id XAA23822; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:18:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: NEWS server To: Nathan Stratton cc: Sean Kelly , freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > Well, I am running 2.0.5, but I do not think is is FreeBSD, but the fact > that there is a TON of data gogin through that box. We have full feeds > from MCI, Sprint, and UUNet. We also send full feeds to several sites. can you provide more information on your disk configuration?? you may be getting hammered in disk activity. dmesg and df output as well would help. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:36:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA20316 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:36:41 -0700 Received: from netrail.net (nathan@netrail.net [204.117.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20311 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:36:37 -0700 Received: (from nathan@localhost) by netrail.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13010; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:09:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:09:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Stratton To: Dave Andersen cc: Jim Dixon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@netrail.net Subject: Re: NEWS server In-Reply-To: <199510110053.SAA11745@terra.aros.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Dave Andersen wrote: > Our news server is a P100 with 32mb ram, an adaptec 2940 PCI controller, > etc, with news distributed across 3 drives (one for the history files, > one for just news, and one for alt.binaries). A look at top reveals: > > Cpu states: 0.4% user, 2.3% nice, 3.5% system, 3.1% interrupt, 90.7% idle > > There were 10 users reading news as of that snapshot. By *far* our > biggest limitation is in the disk area. The best thing about going > pentium is the PCI disk controllers (I've never had too much luck with > the 486 pci stuff, but perhaps we just didn't get lucky with them). The > excess processing power of the pentium is almost always sitting around > wasted. More ram and better disk controllers are probably a better bet. > Buying a P133 would be an extreme waste, especially over a p90 or 100. Yes, but how many feeds you you recive and how many do you send? We recive news from MCI, Sprint, and UUNet. And have a bunch of sites we feed news to. Nathan Stratton CEO, NetRail, Inc. Your Gateway to the World! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phone (703)524-4800 NetRail, Inc. Fax (703)534-5033 2007 N. 15 St. Suite B-5 Email sales@netrail.net Arlington, Va. 22201 WWW http://www.netrail.net/ Access: (703) 524-4802 guest --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:45:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA20597 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:45:26 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20592 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:45:20 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA12292; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:39:50 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510110339.UAA12292@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:39:50 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510110027.AA112001264@relay.hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Oct 11, 95 10:27:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 609 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You are still missing the boat. You have installed an X11R6 server and > > Netscape is linked against X11R5 libraries. > > No, I'm not, you are, 8-). I was saying that I HAD the R5 localization data > installed in /usr/lib/X11/nls when running XFree86-3.1.2 SVGA X server. > > The nls files are EXACTLY the same for Netscape 1.12 BSDI distribution and > what Peter posted. Hmmmmm. Then you aren't having that error. 8-). You have hit Peter's WWW page, right? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:54:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA21010 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:54:20 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20998 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:54:04 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id XAA24299; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:42:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: NEWS server To: Nathan Stratton cc: Sean Kelly , freebsd-isp@netrail.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > can you provide more information on your disk configuration?? > > you may be getting hammered in disk activity. dmesg and df output as well > > would help. > > 1 gig conner for / and a 4.2 get segate hawk for spool sounds like you have enough disk available. (provided you expire news reasonably) but you must be getting hammered in disk seeks as the news comes in and get recorded in the various files--spool, history, outgoing, etc. you would be much better off with 4 1 gig drives rather than 1 4 gigger ;( two separate scsi chains would help as well. how about some 'iostat 3' numbers Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 20:58:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA21125 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:58:48 -0700 Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA21120 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:58:43 -0700 Received: (from bugs@localhost) by ns1.win.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA11774 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:03:42 -0400 From: Mark Hittinger Message-Id: <199510110403.AAA11774@ns1.win.net> Subject: Re: NEWS server (fwd) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:03:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 516 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Nathan Stratton wrote: > > Well, I am running 2.0.5, but I do not think is is FreeBSD, but the fact > > that there is a TON of data gogin through that box. We have full feeds > > from MCI, Sprint, and UUNet. We also send full feeds to several sites. Also your ethernet configuration. Do you have a slow card? We get full newsfeeds and provide a lot of UUCP feeds. I have cycles and bandwidth to spare. Regards, Mark Hittinger Internet Manager WinNET Communications, Inc. bugs@win.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 21:29:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA21982 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:29:24 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA21976 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:29:22 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA260385754; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:29:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199510110429.AA260385754@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA233275753; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:29:13 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Re: 1.1.5.1, XFree86-3.1.2, Netscape 1.12 To: terry@lambert.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 14:29:12 EST Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) In-Reply-To: <199510110339.UAA12292@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 10, 95 8:39 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > You are still missing the boat. You have installed an X11R6 server and > > > Netscape is linked against X11R5 libraries. > > > > No, I'm not, you are, 8-). I was saying that I HAD the R5 localization data > > installed in /usr/lib/X11/nls when running XFree86-3.1.2 SVGA X server. > > > > The nls files are EXACTLY the same for Netscape 1.12 BSDI distribution and > > what Peter posted. > Hmmmmm. > Then you aren't having that error. 8-). > You have hit Peter's WWW page, right? Yes, I did. I also tried going back to Accelerated-X 1.1 which I presume is X11R5 + X11R6 feature ? I still get the same keysym complaints ... 8-(( I may have to go back to XFree86-2.1.1 native X server eventually, I guess. > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHtID0mThh0X7Um5AQGfxwP/eWcn4J6Q+x8u2qq0wJRx9pTEi2CjY+Ek HcPppipH14XmvPqls4heTjBwRmO4nM7kbRVXFyYwEvK5uiNS5P7qwF7ldXMDjWV+ AbOJZ/Cx51MzQqZFUojKuVDLw1ewWm5HcLV+MmIQlC5IW135mOsQvsqpEJ9aB1bc NZRAUR045KQ= =sYuR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 21:48:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA22237 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:48:23 -0700 Received: from beta.tricity.wsu.edu (beta.tricity.wsu.edu [192.31.216.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA22232 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:48:20 -0700 Received: by beta.tricity.wsu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16946; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:48:19 -0700 Message-Id: <9510110448.AA16946@beta.tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: ft and dump on v 2.05R To: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Smith" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 619 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings I'm currently running FreeBSD V. 2.0.5R (Walnut Creek CD) and am trying to "dump 0f -/ | ft "test"" After some extranious errors I get Oct 10 20:36:11 mark /kernel: ft0: unexpected interrupt; st0 = $20 pcn = 19 My hardware is as follows ft0: Conner CM250 floppy tape drive fdc0: GSI 21 EIDE ISA controller with accelerated tape I/O 486-33 ETEQ chipset 16MB RAM Any Ideas? Mark -- ========================================================================= UNIX IS user friendly, it's just very choosy about who it calls a friend! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 21:55:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA22505 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:55:04 -0700 Received: from terra.aros.net (angio@[205.164.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA22500 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:55:02 -0700 Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16550; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:54:53 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199510110454.WAA16550@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: NEWS server To: nathan@netrail.net (Nathan Stratton) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Nathan Stratton" at Oct 10, 95 11:09:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1940 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Nathan Stratton once said: > > On Tue, 10 Oct 1995, Dave Andersen wrote: > > > Cpu states: 0.4% user, 2.3% nice, 3.5% system, 3.1% interrupt, 90.7% idle > > > > There were 10 users reading news as of that snapshot. By *far* our > > biggest limitation is in the disk area. The best thing about going > Yes, but how many feeds you you recive and how many do you send? We > recive news from MCI, Sprint, and UUNet. And have a bunch of sites we > feed news to. We have 4 sites feeding us full feeds, though one of them is down for some reason (the admin went on vacation and things crashed right after. D'oh), and we feed one site. Even if you're handling lots of feeds, it just means more disk i/o. *shrug* The load goes up when nntpsend runs, because it has to parse the out.going/* files, but the rest of the time, things only bog down when you get lots of people reading news and it eclipses the available ram. if you find that maintaining multiple newsfeeds (in and out) causes the load to be high ordinarily on your server, your money would probably be better spent on another computer which was dedicated only to managing your newsfeeds, which in turn fed the news machine which your users have access to. *shrug* More complicated to maintain, but without fabulously expensive hardware, there are a lot of limitations on I/O that you're going to get with any computer system. (Admittedly, buying a sparc 20 with several large RAIDs would probably handle things much more elegantly, but consider the price-performance, _and_ the exceptionally wasted processing power of the sparc). -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 22:26:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA23148 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:26:49 -0700 Received: from elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (elysium.clare.tased.edu.au [147.41.130.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23091 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:25:35 -0700 Received: (from itemple@localhost) by elysium.clare.tased.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA01563; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:21:11 +1100 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:17:20 +1100 (EST) From: Iain Templeton Subject: Re: Hard disk copying To: Julian Elischer cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510100600.XAA16870@ref.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Julian Elischer wrote: > > What I basically want is to be able to copy one disk, to another > > (obviously), where the disks are on the same SCSI2 controller, and should > > be the same model drive (exact model not known at this time). > if they have the same number of blocks, > then > dd if=/dev/rsd0 of=/dev/rsd1 bs=64k should work.. > > this will mail miserably if the second drive is smaller than the first :) Does this require either or both of the drives to be unmounted. I was just thinking if whilst the copy was occuring if the source drive was written to, would that possibly cause the dest. to be invalid (or I could just mount read only) especially if the write occured before and after the current copy location (if that makes sense). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Iain Templeton, Grade 12 student and administrator of Unix boxes/WWW/News at > > Claremont College, Claremont, Tasmania, Australia. > > ah the land of real chocolate! > In fact, I can see the Cadbury factory out the window (well if I move right a lot and pretend the trees aren't there) -Iain. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Iain Templeton, Grade 12 student and administrator of Unix boxes/WWW/News at Claremont College, Claremont, Tasmania, Australia. EMAIL: itemple@clare.tased.edu.au WWW: http://www.clare.tased.edu.au/~itemple/ PGP Public Key available on request (well maybe...) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "A Pentium Pro - thats not a P6, thats a P5 and a bit..." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 22:56:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA23836 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:56:40 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23827 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:56:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id GAA03195 ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:55:39 +0100 To: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Login message of the day (per say) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:42:02 EDT." Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: <3193.813390938@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -=WireHead=- stands accused of writing in message ID : >Hello All, > >I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a motd type message to the >outside of the login prompt. By this I mean when someone firts encounters >my machine i would like to display that This sort of stuff should go in the /etc/gettytab file. That's where the ``login banner'' set configured... Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 22:58:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA23930 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:58:53 -0700 Received: from fenestro.parc.xerox.com (beta.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23925 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:58:51 -0700 Received: (from fenner@localhost) by fenestro.parc.xerox.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA00214 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:55:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 22:55:18 -0700 From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <199510110555.WAA00214@fenestro.parc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to reset serial port? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm finally getting bitten by the age-old UNIX problem of sucky serial port handling. I installed the 'hylafax' package from 2.0.5, ran 'faxaddmodem' and got the afm-tar.Z so that textfmt would work, and hylafax tries to send a job, gets connected, and then hangs. The process is waiting on ttyin: 66 162 156 0 3 0 764 896 ttyin I ?? 0:00.27 faxsend -m cuaa0 sendq/q1 I can't kill it, turning the modem on and off does no good, even if I flip CD around and various other tricks. Is there any way other than continuously rebooting to debug this problem? I'm running -stable as of last Saturday. Thanks, Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 23:02:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA24058 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:02:25 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net (root@wsantee.oz.net [204.118.240.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24052 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:02:22 -0700 Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00983 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:02:17 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199510110602.XAA00983@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Predictor-1 compression benchmarking To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:02:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 716 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 'Lo all: Are there any benchmarks floating around comparing throughput and CPU utilization with Predictor-1 compression enabled for ppp vs. using standard v.42bis compression on the modem. My provider currently doesn't have support enabled for Predictor-1 compression (I'm not even sure they have a daemon which implements it) and I'd like to present a case why they should/shouldn't enable it for their subscribers. Cheers, -- ( -Wes Santee | You're never dead 'til you're ) ( wsantee@wsantee.oz.net (preferred) | out of quarters. --InSoc ) ( wsantee@oz.net (backup) \------------------------------ ) ( http://www.oz.net/~wsantee finger wsantee@oz.net for PGP info ) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 23:06:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA24235 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:06:52 -0700 Received: from wcarchive.cdrom.com (wcarchive.cdrom.com [192.216.191.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24224 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:06:48 -0700 Received: from intele.net (quervo.intele.net [204.118.249.20]) by wcarchive.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA22757 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:09:23 -0700 Received: (wes@localhost) by intele.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA03590 for freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:05:41 -0600 From: Barnacle Wes Message-Id: <199510110605.AAA03590@intele.net> Subject: Need help with iijppp! To: freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:05:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1875 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fellow FreeBSD'ers: I've recently installed FreeBSD 2.0.5 from the CD-ROM on a machine at work. I've been using FreeBSD since 1.0 days, and have had 2.0 up at home since last December. The 2.0.5 CD installation was quite impressive; fast and easy being the keywords. Our router box is currently running BSDI 1.1, and crashes or hangs several times every day. I'd like to upgrade to FBSD 2.0.5, and 2.1 when it is available, but I need to get PPP working. I have one small problem: I can't seem to get iijppp to dial our ISP at work. Dialing manually (using term mode) works flawlessly, but attempting to use the iijppp dialer results in the chat script waiting endless for the first non-null expect string (an OK response from the modem). Yes, I've read the handbook on the web page, and it looks much like the sample files I also haven't gotten to work yet. I've saved the relevant web pages, however, and will review my work tomorrow, when I've regained (semi-) conciousness. As you may have noticed, the man pages for iijppp are not all that clear. If anyone can send me short, clear, concise instructions and/or working sample config files, I'd be very pleased. If I am being silly and should just configure the kernel-level PPP in the manner that my 2.0 system is configured, please tell me. I have no particular bias between the kernel and user level PPPs. Please respond via e-mail if possible; I will summarize and post responses to this mailing list. I know I've not contributed much to this group lately, but I have in the past, and will contribute again once the sailing season is over. ;^) Thanks in advance for your help. -- Wes Peters | Yes I am a pirate, two hundred years too late Softweyr | The cannons don't thunder, there's nothing to plunder Consulting | I'm an over forty victim of fate... wes@intele.net | Jimmy Buffet From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 23:13:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA24499 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:13:26 -0700 Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA24491 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:13:14 -0700 Received: from harvard.contech.co.za by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0t2uMe-000KgFC; Wed, 11 Oct 95 08:10 EET Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Harverson" Organization: Network Academy To: Shaun Finn Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:14:50 +2:00 Subject: Re: Best Ethernet Card Reply-to: harverso@aztec.co.za CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am looking for recommendations as to the best PCI 10Mb Ethernet adapter > for use with FreeBSD. I am seeing things like the 3Com 509 driver is > buggy, etc...So just what is the best as far as compatibility and > performance? Well, I don't know why the driver was originally labelled buggy, But I have hgad no problems with it. I am running a router with one of these on each interface and getting very nice perfromance out of them. Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 23:18:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA24693 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:18:18 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24687 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:18:17 -0700 Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA27936 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:17:24 -0700 Received: from harvard.contech.co.za by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0t2uPv-000KfqC; Wed, 11 Oct 95 08:13 EET Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Harverson" Organization: Network Academy To: questions@freebsd.org, "Alok K. Dhir" Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:18:13 +2:00 Subject: Re: Boot off of sd0 Reply-to: harverso@aztec.co.za Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The problem I'm having is that I can't get the system (running > 951005-snap of 2.1-stable) to boot off of sd0. I think I may have > screwed something up during the disklabel portion of the custom install. > If I boot without a floppy in the drive, I get a > "Missing Operating System" message from the BIOS (I assume its from the > BIOS, anyway). If I boot off of a boot floppy and enter "sd(0,a)/kernel" > at the boot prompt, everything comes up beautifully. I don't know if this will help at all, but I was having this problem on a machine about 1/2 year ago running 2.0.5. The install seemed to be getting confused about the proper disklablelling. I used the advice in the faq about putting a small dos partition on there with fdisk before starting and the problem went away when I next installed ( and nuked the icky dos partition ;) Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Oct 10 23:21:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA24837 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:21:37 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24831 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:21:35 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA016072490; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:21:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199510110621.AA016072490@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA236632489; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:21:29 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: FreeBSD counter still running ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 16:21:29 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Haven't seen any news about FreeBSD register counter. WOndering if it is still active ... - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHtiG0mThh0X7Um5AQFf7wP/VvSo1X5JfY5qEowurG1W/1XV0YqZ9W3I jjD9o0XB0UJIJc11RdZauy/LFu9QdBZFVMpKB3L5wAvZ2m8RWLG94y03/ErOjT27 tSk/ww5VAKobOAgSJxSLI4kPHUqAR5JM66UHu2X64rl5xBoEvIt2bIUqEAcPQwCl lii0pm9Chrk= =8G5A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 00:00:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA25770 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:00:03 -0700 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25759 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:00:00 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA031274794; Tue, 10 Oct 1995 23:59:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199510110659.AA031274794@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA238814793; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 16:59:53 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: Sniff+ newsletter (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 16:59:52 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- FYI, a demo version of available for Linux. Will be great if they such a port for FreeBSD. > > Date: Tue, 10 Oct 95 22:43:45 +0100 > > Message-Id: <9510102143.AA06984@TakeFive.co.at> > > From: TakeFive Information Service > > To: kenneth@hpato.aus.hp.com > > Subject: TAKEFIVE NEWS OF THE QUARTER > > Status: RO > > > > =================================================================== > > ============= TAKEFIVE NEWS OF THE QUARTER =============== > > ============= October 1995 =============== > > =================================================================== > > > > o PRODUCT RELEASE: SNiFF+2.1 is coming with the following new > > features: > > - Multi-Programming-Language-Support > > - Symbol table API: enables programmers to create their own > > applications through access to underlying symbol > > information > > - DDE and dbxtra debugger integration: further expands > > SNiFF+'s openness in including a range of the most > > popular debuggers > > - 30-50% faster project loading times > > - SNiFF+2.1 on SCO Unix, Novell UnixWare and Linux as > > product available > > o FAMILY OF PROGRAMMING-LANGUAGE PARSERS > > - Open Parser API for proprietary languages > > - CORBA Development: IDL Parser available in October > > - FORTRAN to C/C++: FORTRAN Parser to be shipped in November > > o MARKET FEEDBACK > > SNiFF+ wins "Best Applications Software Award" at > > SUN WORLD 1995! > > o PARTNERSHIPS > > SNiFF+ will be bundled with Dassault's CATIA/CADAM product > > and continue to be used by Dassault's Development Department. > > SNiFF+ will be integrated with IDE's StP/OMT-Booch Design and > > Reverse Engineering solution > > o TRADE SHOWS AND MARKET EVENTS > > OBJECT WORLD Germany, STRATEGIES OBJECTS 95, > > SYSTEMS 95, FORUM Object 95 > > o TRAINING AVAILABLE > > o TECH NOTES > > - Application Note on Workspaces for Team-Support > > - ClearCase Integration > > - RogueWave Libraries > > o DISTRIBUTORS AND OFFICES > > o SNiFF+ ON THE WEB > > o QUESTION OF THE QUARTER > > o TAKEFIVE SOFTWARE COMPANY BACKGROUNDER > > > > > > About this newsletter: > > > > Welcome to "TAKEFIVE NEWS OF THE QUARTER". > > This is a quarterly on-line newsletter designed to communicate > > new product information and news from TakeFive Software. > > To receive more information about TakeFive Software, contact: > > > > Europe: info@takefive.co.at, +43 662 457 915 > > USA: info@takefive.com, +1 408 777 1440 > > WWW: http://www.takefive.com > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ============= PRODUCT RELEASE: SNiFF+2.1 IS COMING ============== > > =================================================================== > > > > We'll be adding significant functionality to this release. > > Look for: > > > > - Multi-Programming-Language-Support > > - Symbol table API: enables programmers to create their > > own applications through access to underlying symbol > > information > > - DDE and dbxtra debugger integration: further expands > > SNiFF+'s openness in including a range of the most > > popular debuggers > > - 30-50% faster project loading times > > - SNiFF+ on SCO Unix, Novell UnixWare and Linux as > > product available > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ============ FAMILY OF PROGRAMMING-LANGUAGE PARSERS ============= > > =================================================================== > > > > For the first time, projects that include different languages can > > be edited and managed in ONE integrated development environment. > > All object-oriented languages that have concepts similar to C/C++ > > or that are extensions of C/C++, e.g., IDL, 4GL (TCL, PERL, Python, > > etc.), as well as common procedural languages like FORTRAN or > > COBOL, can be integrated thanks to SNiFF+'s language-independency. > > No other development environment offers this feature. > > > > There are many ways of taking advantage of SNiFF+2.1's > > language-independency. For example, companies can integrate source > > code from any given language into SNiFF+2.1. On the other hand, > > software systems which are already available can be re-implemented > > and therefore integrated into an object-oriented C++ development > > environment. All in all, language-independency will make SNiFF+'s > > C/C++ development environment more universally applicable! > > > > In order to also support proprietary languages, SNiFF+2.1 can be > > used in conjunction with an Open Parser API, thereby allowing > > SNiFF+ users to write their own parsers. The Open Parser API will > > be available for all SNiFF+ versions including and subsequent to > > SNiFF+2.1. > > > > Besides offering customers the possibility of writing their own > > parsers for proprietary languages, TakeFive Software will also make > > available a family of programming-language solutions. > > > > TakeFive Software GmbH, Salzburg, Austria, announced at the GUUG95 > > trade show in Wiesbaden, Germany, that SNiFF+2.1 can be extended > > with an IDL-Parser through a cooperation with Interactive Objects > > Software, Elzach, Germany. > > > > Interactive Objects Software has been selected as TakeFive's > > partner for developing the IDL-Parser. Interactive Objects has an > > in-depth knowledge of CORBA development due to its distribution of > > and consultancy work for CORBA products. A further aspect of > > SNiFF+2.1's language-independency is the ability of having multiple > > parsers running simultaneously and in parallel with each other. > > > > For further information, please email us at info@takefive.co.at. > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ======================= MARKET FEEDBACK ====================== > > =================================================================== > > > > SNiFF+ wins "Best Applications Software" at SUN WORLD 1995! Press, > > attendees and exhibitors rated SNiFF+ 2 the "Most Innovative New > > Application Software" among 11 application software products during > > the event sponsored by Sun Expert Magazine and the Sun User Group. > > You can read about the press release and more details regarding > > this prestigious award at our web site. > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ========================= PARTNERSHIPS ======================== > > =================================================================== > > > > TakeFive Software GmbH, Salzburg/Austria, and Dassault Systemes, > > Suresnes/France, have signed a strategic license agreement. > > > > Dassault Systemes will use TakeFive's software technology in its > > product development process. Furthermore, through this agreement, > > CATIA Application Architecture (CAA) developers, including Dassault > > Systemes' internal developers, will gain direct benefit from > > TakeFive's object-oriented development environment, SNiFF+. CATIA > > Application Architecture (CAA) provides industries with the > > software development tools, methods and standards required to create > > embedded, integrated applications based on CATIA open architecture. > > > > In order to guarantee a high level of integration of SNiFF+ into > > the CATIA/CADAM development environment, TakeFive and Dassault > > Systemes have agreed to exchange strategic and experiential > > knowledge at the management level, as well as to establish close > > technical relationship between their respective development > > organizations. This cooperation will strengthen the position of > > both companies in their respective markets. > > > > CATIA and CADAM have been developed by Dassault Systemes, the > > world-wide market leader in mechanical CAD/CAM. CATIA and CADAM are > > installed at more than 7,000 customer sites, with a total of more > > than 100,000 seats in industries ranging from aerospace, automotive > > and consumer goods to manufacturing. With more than 1,000 > > employees, most of whom are specialist engineers, Dassault Systemes > > represents the largest CAD/CAM software development laboratory in > > the world. > > > > CATIA and CADAM are marketed and supported world-wide by IBM. > > CATIA is a registered trademark of Dassault Systemes. CADAM is a > > registered trademark of Dassault Systemes of America Corp. > > > > For further information, please contact: > > > > TakeFive Software Dassault Systemes > > Mr. Andreas Pabinger Mrs. Martine Vesco > > > > Tel: (43) 662 457 915 Tel: (33) 1 40 99 42 18 > > Fax: (43) 662 457 9156 Fax: (33) 1 40 99 43 76 > > > > =================================================================== > > =================================================================== > > > > Interactive Development Environments, Inc., San Francisco/USA, and > > TakeFive Software, Salzburg/Austria, have signed a strategic > > product marketing agreement which will enhance the joint use of > > IDE's StP and TakeFive's SNiFF+. > > > > IDE Inc., San Francisco/USA, announced that its industry-leading, > > object-oriented analysis design and code generation toolsets, > > Software through Pictures (StP), will support the full reverse > > engineering of C++ code. This will be made possible through an > > integration of StP with TakeFive Software's SNiFF+2.1. The > > integration will permit large teams of developers to better design, > > document and reuse existing or new C++ code by reverse engineering > > it into OO models within StP by means of Object Modeling Technique > > (StP/OMT) and StP/Booch. > > > > The integration of StP with SNiFF+2.1 will give developers more > > insight into complex software by automatically creating StP/OMT or > > StP/Booch models from the design of C++ systems "as built" and by > > allowing the user to iterate seamlessly between design tasks in StP > > and implementation efforts in SNiFF+. Furthermore, users will be > > able to view either design or code by navigating between StP/OMT's > > or StP/Booch's graphical design representations of C++ classes and > > SNiFF+'s C++ source code implementation. > > > > TakeFive's SNiFF+ provides insight into existing code and instant > > assessment of changes in software. It is the only UNIX C/C++ > > environment that lets developers mix and match platforms, > > compilers, debuggers and configuration management tools with a > > consistent GUI. SNiFF+2.1 also provides impact analysis and > > cross-referencing tools that complement StP/OMT and StP/Booch. > > > > Interactive Development Environments, Inc.(IDE), located in San > > Francisco, was founded in 1983 with the mission of helping > > companies build better mission-critical and enterprise-wide > > systems. IDE's integrated software tools automate every aspect of > > large-scale team development life cycles and fully support > > object-oriented, relational and structured methodologies. IDE's > > training, consulting and support services, along with partnerships > > with industry-leading hardware, software and services vendors, > > provide seamless coverage across the entire scope of software > > development. > > > > For further information, please contact: > > > > IDE, Inc. TakeFive Software > > Mr. Greg Neal Mr. Andreas Pabinger > > > > Tel: (415) 543-0900 Tel: (43) 662 457 915 > > Fax: (415) 546-6538 Fax: (43) 662 457 9156 > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > =============== TRADE SHOWS AND MARKET EVENTS =============== > > =================================================================== > > > > OBJECT WORLD (Frankfurt/Germany), October 9-11, 1995 > > > > STRATEGIES OBJECTS (Paris/France), October 10-13, 1995 > > > > SYSTEMS 95 (Munich/Germany), October 16-20, 1995 > > > > FORUM OBJECTS (Paris/France), October 24-25, 1995 > > > > C++ WORLD (Chicago/USA), October 31-November 2, 1995 > > > > TakeFive Software or its Distributors will present the new > > version of its object-oriented development environment > > SNiFF+2.1 with: > > - Multi-Programming-Language-Support > > - Open Parser API for proprietary languages > > - IDL Parser for CORBA Development > > - FORTRAN Parser > > > > See Product Release SNiFF+2.1 below for details. > > For further information, please contact: > > > > Europe: info@takefive.co.at, Tel: +43 662 457 915 > > USA: info@takefive.com, Tel: +1 408 777 1440 > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ===================== TRAINING AVAILABLE ======================= > > =================================================================== > > > > Harness the full power of SNiFF+ with a product training session > > from TakeFive Software. We'll help your team maximize the benefits > > of your development environment with hands-on training. Email > > info@takefive.co.at for details. > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ========================== TECH NOTES ========================= > > =================================================================== > > > > Application Note on Workspaces for Team-Support: > > > > An Application Note on Workspaces for Team-Support is now ready. > > Our techs have written a tutorial on how to set up workspaces in > > SNiFF+. This Application Note describes in a simple form which > > configuration steps are required for using SNiFF+ powerful > > Workspace and Team-Support concept. > > > > > > ClearCase Integration: > > > > For ClearCase users there is now an Application Note available > > which describes the way how SNiFF+ can be used together with > > Atria's tool. This note especially explains the way how SNiFF+ > > specific symbol-information-files should be managed within the > > ClearCase CMVC-concept. Furthermore, it gives an overview of a > > custom menu in SNiFF+ that implements commands specific to > > ClearCase. The integration itself is accomplished with ClearCase's > > text-based interface and SNiFF+'s open CMVC-adapter concept. > > > > > > RogueWave Libraries: > > > > This paper describes how to efficiently use Tools.h++ together with > > SNiFF+. SNiFF+ uses the concept of partial preprocessing for > > loading the RogueWave Tools.h++ class library. The RogueWave > > project can then be used as a subproject for your application/library > > projects, thus allowing an optimal reuse of these base components > > within your sources. > > > > > > All three papers can be obtained from us via FTP. The documents will > > also be available on our Web-Site soon. Please let us know in which > > paper you are interested in. > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > =================== OFFICES AND DISTRIBUTORS ================== > > =================================================================== > > > > Offices: > > > > Europe: > > TakeFive Software E-mail: info@takefive.co.at > > Jakob-Haringer-Strasse 8 Fax: +43 662 457915 6 > > 5020 Salzburg, AUSTRIA Tel: +43 662 457915 > > > > USA: > > TakeFive Software, Inc. E-mail: info@takefive.com > > 20823 Stevens Creek Blvd, Suite 440 Fax: 408 777 1444 > > Cupertino, CA 95014 Tel: 408 777 1440 > > > > > > Distributors: > > > > UK: Power Software info@power-soft.co.uk > > France: Microprocess mpi@world-net.sct.fr > > Italy: Chorus soprano@chorus.it > > Finland: Delphi jkl@delphi.fi > > Israel: N.C.C. ncc@netvision.net.il > > India : Siemens Information Systems pankaj.tangri@blr.sni.de > > Brasil: Paradigm Systems Brasil Tel: +55-11-851-0949 > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ====================== SNiFF+ ON THE WEB ====================== > > =================================================================== > > > > Visit our Home Page on the World Wide Web! Check us out at > > http://www.takefive.com for the most recent information about > > SNiFF+. You can learn about our latest product, find out about what > > upcoming events are planned and read a little bit about TakeFive's > > background, or you get instructions on how to download SNiFF+ from > > our home page. We plan to update our page frequently - so make it a > > part of your bookmark list and keep in touch with TakeFive Software! > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > =================== QUESTION OF THE QUARTER =================== > > =================================================================== > > > > What languages are you interested in? Which ones do you program in > > most frequently? > > > > We want to hear from you. Send us email at: info@takefive.co.at. > > Or, call us at +43 662 457 915 in (Europe and Asia) > > or +1-800-418-2535 (US). > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > ========== TAKE FIVE SOFTWARE COMPANY BACKGROUNDER ========= > > =================================================================== > > > > TakeFive Software was founded in 1992 with the mission of producing > > and marketing high quality, industrial-strength software development > > tools. Headquartered in Salzburg, Austria, TakeFive sells and > > supports its innovative development environment, SNiFF+, worldwide, > > directly and through distributors. SNiFF+ is used by leading > > companies in the telecommunications, banking and financial > > industries, as well as by large manufacturing companies and > > independent software vendors. > > > > SNiFF+ is the only object-oriented development environment that > > gives the programmer both freedom of choice and flexibility in > > using, mixing and adapting UNIX platforms, compilers, debuggers and > > configuration management systems as needed. SNiFF+ combines high > > performance (speed, scalability) and overall functionality with an > > intuitive user interface (easy to use and easy to learn). > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > To receive more information about TakeFive Software and/or SNiFF+, > > contact: > > Europe: info@takefive.co.at, Tel: +43 662 457 915 > > USA: info@takefive.com, Tel: +1 408 777 1440 > > WWW: http://www.takefive.com/ > > =================================================================== > > - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHtrGUmThh0X7Um5AQHRQgP8DIE4c5syAjrSoSwREhYfrJCZ6zzI9ruA Jd8EQKWHdQzwH/AQZUwb7cJF/8BNcEOqMR11vhAOAh7sm8sanwyAfNzZIzHQgKBU 8/bAssuOtgZPKooSKYCYSFI4/qsUhhAyC08yWtNxB4JJ8MzHpQiHotEx6EJPx/qW qIjm3zzZTAM= =+rN7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 00:01:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA25871 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:01:51 -0700 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (root@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA25865 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:01:43 -0700 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA08938 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:01:29 +0200 Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA02792; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:01:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:01:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199510110701.JAA02792@shadows.cs.hut.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: mailing list archives Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need to peek into freebsd list archives, is there such a thing? If there is, it might be a good idea to add it to FreeBSD mailing list FAQ. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 00:02:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA25934 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:02:48 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25929 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:02:45 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA04332; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:02:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA00185; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:02:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199510110702.AAA00185@corbin.Root.COM> To: Shaun Finn cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best Ethernet Card From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 00:02:41 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I am looking for recommendations as to the best PCI 10Mb Ethernet adapter > for use with FreeBSD. I am seeing things like the 3Com 509 driver is > buggy, etc...So just what is the best as far as compatibility and > performance? We only have support for the DEC DC21040/DC21041/DC21140 NIC based PCI cards. This NIC is used on most of the common PCI card - SMC, Compex, D-link, DEC, Znyx, Cogent, etc. The performance and reliability are both excellent; it's what we're using in wcarchive... -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 02:09:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA00319 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:09:43 -0700 Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA00304 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:09:35 -0700 Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26258 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:09:16 +0100 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:45:42 BST From: Michael Ryan Subject: Adaptec 2940 To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can somebody please confirm that FreeBSD v2.0 or v2.05 will load and work on a PC with an Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter and 6x CD-ROM. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 02:25:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA01079 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:25:36 -0700 Received: from anvil.gatech.edu (root@anvil.gatech.edu [130.207.165.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA01073 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 02:25:32 -0700 Received: from acmex.gatech.edu (gt4722a@acmex.gatech.edu [130.207.165.22]) by anvil.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA17056 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:25:24 -0400 From: gt4722a@prism.gatech.edu (Brian "AGENT GORDON COLE" Atkins) Received: (gt4722a@localhost) by acmex.gatech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA25625 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:25:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199510110925.FAA25625@acmex.gatech.edu> Subject: any support now or soon for CD-R? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:25:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 189 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Now that you can pick up a HP 2/4X drive w/ software for under $1k I really really want one of these. Will I be stuck in Windows land if I want to use it for anything besides reading data? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 03:24:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA04023 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:24:28 -0700 Received: from dira.bris.ac.uk (dira.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA04008 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:24:09 -0700 Received: from kukini.cs.bris.ac.uk by dira.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:35:13 +0100 Received: from kiha by kukini.compsci.bristol.ac.uk id aa24417; 11 Oct 95 9:38 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Directories and the trailing slash Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <11167.813404093@kiha> From: David Hedley Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This isn't really a bug report, just something I've noticed which annoys me. The problem is that most (all?) commands when presented with a directory followed by a '/' as an argument, all bomb out saying '.... is a directory'. e.g. assume 'test' is a directory % mv test/ xyz Error: test/ is a directory (not the exact message it prints, but close enough - this is from memory) whereas % mv test xyz works quite happily. This isn't just a FreeBSD problem - I remember the same thing happening with 386BSD 0.1 many years ago, but it doesn't happen on any other system I use (including Linux, SunOS....). It's only annoying as `zsh', when doing filename completion, automatically adds a trailing '/' to directory names when TAB is pressed. Is this correct behaviour? Can it be fixed? David -- David Hedley (David.Hedley@bris.ac.uk) http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~hedley/ finger hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk for PGP key Computer Graphics Group | University of Bristol | UK *** All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone *** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 03:32:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA04488 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:32:49 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA04483 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:32:45 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA29547; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:32:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA00849; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:32:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199510111032.DAA00849@corbin.Root.COM> To: David Hedley cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Directories and the trailing slash In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:34:53 BST." <11167.813404093@kiha> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:32:32 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >This isn't really a bug report, just something I've noticed which annoys >me. The problem is that most (all?) commands when presented with a >directory followed by a '/' as an argument, all bomb out saying >'.... is a directory'. ... >Is this correct behaviour? Can it be fixed? It already has been fixed. The fix will be in the 2.1 release. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 03:39:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA04766 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:39:03 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it (strider.ibe.net [194.179.130.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA04757 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 03:38:45 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA05423; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:37:13 +0100 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199510111037.LAA05423@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: Login message of the day (per say) To: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu (-=WireHead=-) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:37:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "-=WireHead=-" at Oct 10, 95 08:42:02 pm Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 768 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from -=WireHead=- (Wed Oct 11 01:42:02 1995): > I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a motd type message to the > outside of the login prompt. By this I mean when someone firts encounters > my machine i would like to display that ... Edit /etc/gettytab: # The default gettytab entry, used to set defaults for all other # entries, and in cases where getty is called with no table name ... default:\ :cb:ce:ck:fd#1000:im=YOURTEXTHERE:sp#1200: ... See man gettytab for escape sequences to insert in the "im" field. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 04:03:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA05389 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 04:03:55 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA05383 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 04:03:53 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA25414; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:53:59 -0500 Message-Id: <9510111053.AA25414@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:53:59 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: mike@networx.ie, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Can somebody please confirm that FreeBSD v2.0 >or v2.05 will load and work on a PC with an >Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter and 6x CD-ROM. > >Mike > It'll work with 2.05R, but not with 2.0. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 05:13:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA06764 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:13:10 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA06757 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:13:03 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA24984; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:10:31 +0100 Message-Id: <199510111210.NAA24984@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Directories and the trailing slash To: hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk (David Hedley) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:10:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <11167.813404093@kiha> from "David Hedley" at Oct 11, 95 10:34:53 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1394 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > This isn't really a bug report, just something I've noticed which annoys > me. The problem is that most (all?) commands when presented with a > directory followed by a '/' as an argument, all bomb out saying > '.... is a directory'. > > e.g. assume 'test' is a directory > > % mv test/ xyz > Error: test/ is a directory > > (not the exact message it prints, but close enough - this is from memory) > > whereas > > % mv test xyz > > works quite happily. > > This isn't just a FreeBSD problem - I remember the same thing happening > with 386BSD 0.1 many years ago, but it doesn't happen on any other system I > use (including Linux, SunOS....). It's only annoying as `zsh', when doing > filename completion, automatically adds a trailing '/' to directory names > when TAB is pressed. > > Is this correct behaviour? Can it be fixed? It has recently been fixed (Oct 7) in -current. You can grab the respective directory (bin/mv) from one of the FreeBSD servers (e.g. ftp://gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/bin/mv). > > David > -- > David Hedley (David.Hedley@bris.ac.uk) > http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~hedley/ > finger hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk for PGP key > Computer Graphics Group | University of Bristol | UK > *** All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone *** > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 05:28:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA07034 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:28:17 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA07029 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:28:09 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id IAA10344; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:15:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: mailing list archives To: Heikki Suonsivu cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510110701.JAA02792@shadows.cs.hut.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > > I need to peek into freebsd list archives, is there such a thing? If there > is, it might be a good idea to add it to FreeBSD mailing list FAQ. there is the www based search utility at www.freebsd.org there are the archives of all the digests (questions, hackers....) these archives can be retrieved thru majordomo. try sending mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with the line: index freebsd-questions > > -- > Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, > hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN > Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 05:32:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA07115 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:32:16 -0700 Received: from ulcc.uni-plovdiv.bg (uniplo-gw.BG.EU.net [193.68.2.78]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA07110 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 05:32:06 -0700 Received: (from vlado@localhost) by ulcc.uni-plovdiv.bg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA16210 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:33:40 +0200 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:33:40 +0200 From: Vlado Zafirov Message-Id: <199510111233.OAA16210@ulcc.uni-plovdiv.bg> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cipher 525 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is any heard for Cipher 525 FloppyTape From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 06:00:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA07411 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:00:38 -0700 Received: from swissbank.swissbank.com (swissbank.swissbank.com [146.180.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA07402 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 06:00:30 -0700 Received: by swissbank.swissbank.com with UUCP (4.1/BK-1.9) id AA26492; Wed, 11 Oct 95 08:02:59 CDT Received: from il.us.swissbank.com by gatekeeper.swissbank.com with SMTP (8.6.12/BK-1.12) id HAA17590; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:57:38 -0500 Received: from ln1d278nwk by il.us.swissbank.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08798; Wed, 11 Oct 95 07:58:51 CDT Received: by ln1d278nwk (NX5.67d/NX3.0S) id AA02584; Wed, 11 Oct 95 13:58:48 +0100 Message-Id: <9510111258.AA02584@ln1d278nwk> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.112.1.RR) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v112.1) From: Armando Ferreira Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 13:58:38 +0100 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help ! Problem with FreeBSD on Ethernet Cc: suresh_nalluri@il.us.swissbank.com Reply-To: armando_ferreira@il.us.swissbank.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I have got two questions: 1- Does anybody know of a (good) book on freeBSD sys admin ? 2 - I am experiencing a problem setting up a local Ethernet. One of the hosts (tuna) cannot ping any other host, nor can it be pinged by the others. The only ping commands that work from that host are % ping localhost % ping tuna Could it be that I need an entry in /etc/sysconfig for ed0 ? I only have the following entries: network_interfaces="lo0" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Armando. P.S. Below are some of the system files and the output of some TCP/IP related commands. dmesg | grep ed0 ================ ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 5 maddr 0xd0000 msize 8192 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:a8:82:2c, type WD8003EP (8 bit) ifconfig -a =========== ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 194.72.241.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 194.72.241.255 ether 00:00:c0:a8:82:2c lp0: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=10 mtu 1500 hosts ===== # hosts,v 1.5 1995/04/09 09:54:39 rgrimes Exp # # Host Database # This file should contain the addresses and aliases # for local hosts that share this file. # In the presence of the domain name service or NIS, this file may # not be consulted at all; see /etc/host.conf for the resolution order. # # 194.72.241.1 tuna tuna.dolcom.co.uk 127.0.0.1 localhost 194.72.241.2 porpoise 194.72.241.3 salmon # # Imaginary network. #10.0.0.2 myname.my.domain myname #10.0.0.3 myfriend.my.domain myfriend # # According to RFC 1597, you can use the following IP networks for # private nets which will never be connected to the Internet: # # 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 # 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 # 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 # # In case you want to be able to connect to the Internet, you need # real official assigned numbers. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not try # to invent your own network numbers but instead get one from your # network provider (if any) or from the Internet Registry (ftp to # rs.internic.net, directory `/templates'). # netstat -ain ============ Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.00.c0.a8.82.2c 0 0 4 0 0 ed0 1500 194.72.241 194.72.241.1 0 0 4 0 0 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 14 0 14 0 0 lo0 16384 127 127.0.0.1 14 0 14 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 netstat -nr =========== Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 11 lo0 194.72.241 link#1 UC 0 0 194.72.241.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 3 lo0 194.72.241.2 link#1 UHLW 0 3 /etc/networks ============= # @(#)networks 5.1 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 # # Your Local Networks Database # #your-net 127 # your comment #your-netmask 255.255.255 # subnet mask for your-net #your-net 194.72.241 # your comment #your-netmask 255.255.255 # subnet mask for your-net # # Your subnets # #subnet1 127.0.1 alias1 # comment 1 #subnet2 127.0.2 alias2 # comment 2 # # Internet networks (from nic.ddn.mil) # ps -wax ======== PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 0 ?? DLs 0:00.00 (swapper) 1 ?? Is 0:00.01 /sbin/init -- 2 ?? DL 0:00.00 (pagedaemon) 3 ?? DL 0:00.00 (vmdaemon) 4 ?? DL 0:00.03 (update) 40 ?? Ss 0:00.01 routed -q 58 ?? Ss 0:00.09 syslogd 64 ?? Is 0:00.00 portmap 73 ?? Is 0:00.16 inetd 80 ?? Ss 0:00.02 cron 82 ?? Is 0:00.02 lpd 85 ?? Is 0:00.01 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) 139 ?? S 0:01.55 X :0 (XF86_S3) 149 p0 Is+ 0:00.06 -sh (csh) 150 p1 Ss 0:00.14 -sh (csh) 182 p1 R+ 0:00.01 ps -wax 151 p2 Is+ 0:00.06 -sh (csh) 126 v0 Is 0:00.14 -csh (csh) 132 v0 I+ 0:00.02 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx 138 v0 I+ 0:00.06 xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- 140 v0 I 0:00.25 xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login 145 v0 I 0:00.16 twm 146 v0 S 0:00.10 xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 147 v0 S 0:00.47 xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 148 v0 I 0:00.22 xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 127 v1 Is+ 0:00.02 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv1 128 v2 Is+ 0:00.02 /usr/libexec/getty Pc ttyv2 sysconfig ========= #!/bin/sh # # This is sysconfig - a file full of useful variables that you can set # to change the default startup behavior of your system. # # sysconfig,v 1.14 1995/05/17 04:46:57 rgrimes Exp ######################### Start Of Syscons Section ####################### # Choose keyboard map from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* or NO if default. keymap=NO # Set keyboard rate to: slow, normal, fast or NO if default. keyrate=NO # Change function keys default values (or no change if NO) # Syntax: " [ ]..." keychange=NO # Desired cursor type {normal|blink|destructive}, NO if no change cursor=NO # Choose screen map from /usr/share/syscons/scrnmaps/* (or NO for none) scrnmap=NO # Choose font 8x16 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO for default) font8x16=NO # Choose font 8x14 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO for default) font8x14=NO # Choose font 8x8 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO for default) font8x8=NO # Set blank time (in seconds) or "off" to turn it off (or NO for default) blanktime=NO # Set to screen saver desired: blank, green, snake, star (or NO for none) saver=NO # General russian setup for example: # (koi8-r keyboard with cp866 screen font mapped to koi8-r) # # keymap=ru.koi8-r # keyrate=fast # keychange="61 " # cursor=destructive # scrnmap=koi8-r2cp866 # font8x16=cp866b-8x16 # font8x14=cp866-8x14 # font8x8=cp866-8x8 # blanktime=600 # saver=snake ######################### End Of Syscons Section ####################### ######################### Start Of Netconfig Section ####################### # Set to the name of your host - this is pretty important! hostname=tuna.dolcom.co.uk # Set to the NIS domainname of your host, or NO if none defaultdomainname=NO # # Some broken implementations can't handle the RFC 1323 and RFC 1644 # TCP options. If TCP connections randomly hang, try disabling this, # and bug the vendor of the losing equipment. # tcp_extensions=YES # # Set to the list of network devices on this host. You must have an # ifconfig_${network_interface} line for each interface listed here. # for example: # # network_interfaces="ed0 sl0 lo0" # ifconfig_ed0="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" # ifconfig_sl0="inet 10.0.1.0 netmask 0xffffff00" # network_interfaces="lo0" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" # # Set to the list of route add lines for this host. You must have a # route_${static_routes} line for each static route listed here. # static_routes="multicast loopback" route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" # Set to the host you'd like set as your default router, or NO for none. defaultrouter=NO # These are the flags you'd like to start the routing daemon with routedflags=-q # timed flags, or NO if you don't want to start the time daemon timedflags=NO # xntpd flags, or NO if you don't want to start the xntpd daemon xntpdflags="NO" # this is inoperative unless xntpd is enabled; NO to disable tickadjflags="-Aq" # Set to the site you'd like to syncronize your clock from (gatekeeper.dec.com, # for example) or NO for no such site. ntpdate="NO" # Set to YES if you want to run rwhod rwhod=NO # Default sendmail flags. -bd is pretty mandatory, -qm sets the queue scan # time in minutes. If set to NO, don't start sendmail at all. sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # Set to appropriate flags if you want to use AMD amdflags="NO" # Set to YES if this machine will be an NFS client nfs_client=NO # Set to YES if this machine will be an NFS server nfs_server=NO # Set to appropriate flags if you want to start NIS for a client nis_clientflags="NO" # Set to appropriate flags if you want to start NIS for a server nis_serverflags="NO" # Set to appropriate flags for yppasswdd, if you wish to run it. # Typical flags might be "-m /var/yp/master.passwd -s -f" yppasswddflags="NO" # Set to appropriate flags for named, if you have a full-time # connection to the Internet. # For most hosts, flags should be "-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" namedflags="NO" # Set to YES if you want to run the X-10 power controller daemon xtend=NO # Set to YES if you want kernel crashdumps to be saved for debugging savecore=NO # Set to YES if you want to run Kerberos authentication kerberos_server=NO # Set to YES if you want to run gated gated=NO # Set to YES if you wish to check quotas. NOTE: For now this probably # doesn't work and should be left disabled. check_quotas=NO # Set to YES to turn on accounting. NOTE: For now this probably # doesn't work and should be left disabled. accounting=NO # This stuff needed for proper daemons tuning, comsat f.e. # See profile and csh.login also. # Uncomment next line if you want to setup your 8-bit locale at program # startup automatically # ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE=; export ENABLE_STARTUP_LOCALE # Uncomment next line to activate russian locale # LANG=ru_SU.KOI8-R; export LANG # Uncomment next line to activate italian locale # LANG=it_IT.ISO8859-1; export LANG # For full list of locales, check /usr/share/locale/* ######################### End Of Netconfig Section ####################### ######################### Start Of Misc Section ####################### # Set to YES if you want ibcs2 (SCO) emulation loaded at startup ibcs2=NO From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 07:44:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09461 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:44:49 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA09456 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:44:47 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA02154; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:39:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199510111439.HAA02154@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Ryan cc: FreeBSD Support Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:45:42 -0000." Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:39:32 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Can somebody please confirm that FreeBSD v2.0 >or v2.05 will load and work on a PC with an >Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter and 6x CD-ROM. > >Mike > 2.0.5 and the up comming 2.1 should work. The 2.1 driver has many bug fixes, so you may want to wait for that release, or pick up a recent snapshot. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 07:45:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09565 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:45:57 -0700 Received: from ibeam.intel.com (ibeam.jf.intel.com [134.134.208.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA09559 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:45:55 -0700 Received: by ibeam.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0t32Og-000RV3C; Wed, 11 Oct 95 07:44 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with IP in 2.0.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:37:06 -0700 From: Larry Cline Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK, I have a dumb question but I can't seem to find the answer to it anywhere. I am running 2.0.5R on an 486dx3 with a 3C503. All the IP apps seem to work (ftp, telnet, etc) to and from the system. However the system will not answer a ping. Response is normal when pinging from the system but when any other system on its net pings it, it will not respond. I have looked at the activity with tcpdump and can see it receiving the request but it never responds. I have tried both the BNC and AUI connections with the same result so it must be something I am doing wrong in one of the configs but I can't figure it out. Please help if you can. Thanks Larry Larry T. Cline Intel, Hillsboro Or. Don't ask me! Call griff 6-8841... These are not Intel's opinions; these are not my opinions; I rented them. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 07:56:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09890 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:56:06 -0700 Received: from bravo.imagi.net (root@bravo.imagi.net [204.157.4.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA09883 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:56:00 -0700 Received: from ip144.imagi.net (ip144.imagi.net [204.157.4.144]) by bravo.imagi.net (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA23942; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:22:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 07:22:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199510111522.HAA23942@bravo.imagi.net> X-Sender: corellg@mail.imagi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org, -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> From: corellg@imagi.net (Gary B.Corell) Subject: ppp &iijppp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Pleas forgive me for not responding sooner. I got pretty sick yesterday & I've been havinng "network difficulties" lately. I have seen now twice a reference to a ppp handbook on the web. where is it? I have no address for it?? Thanks Gary B. Corell corellg@imagi.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 08:46:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA11365 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:46:24 -0700 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA11360 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:46:20 -0700 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com by gemsgw.med.ge.com (4.1/GEMS-1.1) id AA01684; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:48:20 CDT Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw [3.28.124.2]) by gemed.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA18225 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:44:44 -0500 Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18856; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:46:27 CDT From: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA03486; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:46:25 CDT Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:46:25 CDT Message-Id: <9510111546.AA03486@merak.med.ge.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: serial console & memory mapped devices Cc: caj@med.ge.com, laufen@med.ge.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking a using FreeBSD for an application which requires the PC not have a monitor or keyboard. For this reason I'd like to know what the state of the Serial Console option is. Can I use 2.0.5R or would 2.1 be better for this application? Also in this application I have some custom hardware which is memory mapped to 0xD000 for which I have some working DOS programs. I'd like to do a simple port of these programs. Is there anything special I need to do to get at or reserve that memory region? Thanks, Derek Laufenberg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 08:53:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA11515 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:53:47 -0700 Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com (cyber1.cyberhall.com [206.41.142.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA11510 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 08:53:38 -0700 Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA22525; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:58:40 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:58:40 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: FreeBSD questions Subject: EDITOR environment variable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I am trying to set pico as the default editor for the vipw command. Pico is in the path and can be executed from the shell prompt. I have the following lines in the root users .profile EDITOR=pico export EDITOR This does not work. Could someone tell my the correct syntax and file to edit to add environment variables to FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 09:30:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12432 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:30:03 -0700 Received: from vet.vet.purdue.edu (vet.vet.purdue.edu [128.210.79.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA12419 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:30:00 -0700 Received: by vet.vet.purdue.edu (5.65/Purdue_Vet) id AA16390; Wed, 11 Oct 95 11:32:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 11:32:09 -0500 From: jac@vet.vet.purdue.edu (John Clear) Message-Id: <9510111632.AA16390@vet.vet.purdue.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: XF86_SVGA exits on signal 6 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I asked this over on freebsd.misc, and got no response, so I'm trying here. On a fairly regular basis, XF86_SVGA exits on a signal 6 at 1:00pm. I'm baffled by it, and it is rather annoying to be typing along and watch X go *poof*. If I have xlock running, it seems to be fine, and it doesnt happen ever day, just nearly so. John messages.0:Oct 2 13:00:19 dragonfly /kernel: pid 3243: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.0:Oct 3 13:00:23 dragonfly /kernel: pid 10240: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.0:Oct 4 13:00:21 dragonfly /kernel: pid 13228: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.0:Oct 5 13:00:28 dragonfly /kernel: pid 15083: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.0:Oct 6 13:00:24 dragonfly /kernel: pid 16531: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.1:Sep 25 13:01:00 dragonfly /kernel: pid 14979: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.1:Sep 26 13:00:49 dragonfly /kernel: pid 22003: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.1:Sep 27 13:00:10 dragonfly /kernel: pid 23691: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.1:Sep 28 13:00:27 dragonfly /kernel: pid 213: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.1:Sep 29 13:00:21 dragonfly /kernel: pid 1837: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.2:Sep 19 13:00:21 dragonfly /kernel: pid 717: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 messages.2:Sep 21 13:00:48 dragonfly /kernel: pid 13558: XF86_SVGA: uid 0: exited on signal 6 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 11:46:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14780 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:46:58 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14775 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:46:55 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA13563; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:42:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510111842.LAA13563@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Best Ethernet Card To: harverso@aztec.co.za Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:42:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: sfinn@village.ios.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Tony Harverson" at Oct 11, 95 08:14:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 906 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I am looking for recommendations as to the best PCI 10Mb Ethernet adapter > > for use with FreeBSD. I am seeing things like the 3Com 509 driver is > > buggy, etc...So just what is the best as far as compatibility and > > performance? > > Well, I don't know why the driver was originally labelled buggy, But > I have hgad no problems with it. I am running a router with one of > these on each interface and getting very nice perfromance out of > them. Because on systems that don't issue a bus reset on system reset, the card isn't reset, and the probe only works on reset state cards. A cold boot every time will work, while on some boxes a warm boot is flakey. You (apparently) like me don't buy hardware that takes shortcuts. But many people do. 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 11:56:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14947 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:56:08 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (root@gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14942 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 11:56:06 -0700 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA19918 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:56:04 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #5064) id <01HWBGJ2J4K28X5O3F@wmich.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> Subject: PPP To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I am having a peculiar problem that I when I am establishing a ppp connection, in order for my system to be able to reckognize the route I have to type add 0 0 HISADDR at the PPP ON> prompt. My question: is there a way to eneble this in the script (ppp.conf)? i tried by adding exactly that line, but it does not seem to work. ThanX in advance! -=Timothy Timothy M. Butkiewicz *-----^\/\/|Phone: 616.349.8044 University Computing Services *----------^\/\/|Fax: 616.373.6680 Western Michigan University *---------^\/\/|eMail: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu Kalamazoo, Michigan *------------^\/\/|http://arbornet.org/~wirehead From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 12:33:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA15787 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:33:48 -0700 Received: from csugrad.cs.vt.edu (jagnew@csugrad.cs.vt.edu [128.173.41.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15782 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 12:33:46 -0700 Received: (jagnew@localhost) by csugrad.cs.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id PAA06579; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:33:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:33:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Howland Jared Agnew To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: mounting dos Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If you could please write me and tell me how to mount my msdos partition. I have read the faq and the man pages and still cant get it to work. Thanks in advance. H. Jared Agnew ES From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 13:43:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA17220 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:43:09 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA17203 ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:43:00 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA03105; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:42:43 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510112042.NAA03105@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Boot off of sd0 To: adhir@iagi.net (Alok K. Dhir) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Alok K. Dhir" at Oct 10, 95 07:01:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3994 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hey all - we recently suffered the death of a 2 gig Quantum Empire due to > over heating (the server room AC vent was off and poof went the disk). > In any case, I've reinstalled and restored most of our data off of > backups and fortunately we're back to where we were without too much > loss. > > The problem I'm having is that I can't get the system (running > 951005-snap of 2.1-stable) to boot off of sd0. I think I may have > screwed something up during the disklabel portion of the custom install. > If I boot without a floppy in the drive, I get a > "Missing Operating System" message from the BIOS (I assume its from the > BIOS, anyway). If I boot off of a boot floppy and enter "sd(0,a)/kernel" > at the boot prompt, everything comes up beautifully. > > I have used "fdisk -a" to set the first partition (0) active (the entire > disk, a Seagate 4 gig Hawk, is dedicated to FreeBSD) and have run > "disklabel -B sd0". The server's up and running (production) as we > speak, so I can't test to see if what I did worked without interrupting > my users. I just want to make sure that what I did is correct before I > reboot the system tonight around 2am (I won't be near the machine when I > boot it so if what I did is NOT correct, I'll have to drive to the office > in my jammies to boot it). > > Is there anything else I need to do to get the system to boot off of > sd(0,a)/kernel other than setting the active partition to 0 and "disklabel > -B"? > > Here's the output from fdisk: > > ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=9595 heads=19 sectors/track=46 (874 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=9595 heads=19 sectors/track=46 (874 blks/cyl) > > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 0 is: > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 46, size 8385984 (4094 Meg), flag 80 > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; > end: cyl 1023/ sector 46/ head 18 If you want to make this work, then change (by hand) the beg: figures to: cyl 0: sector 47: head 0: use fdisk -u sd0 for this and change NO OTHER fields.. (use the defaults given as long as they) agree with what you gave here.. ALTERNATIVELY: set the BIOS parameters used in fdisk to be 64 heads, 32 sectors 4000 tracks and allow it to recalculate the beg/end figures automatically MAKE SURE YOU USE THE SAME start 46, size 8385984 (4094 Meg), flag 80 figures you used before.. (or you'll have to re-install the data..) it probably would have been a better thing to start at 64 and set the figures to match the BIOS but you'll be ok with these.. > The data for partition 1 is: > > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > > And here's the output from "disklabel sd0": > > # /dev/rsd0c: > type: SCSI > disk: sd0s1 > label: > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 46 > tracks/cylinder: 19 > sectors/cylinder: 874 > cylinders: 9594 > sectors/unit: 8385984 > rpm: 3600 > interleave: 1 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 204800 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 234*) > b: 262144 204800 swap # (Cyl. 234*- 534*) > c: 8385984 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 9594*) > e: 4096000 466944 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 534*- 5220*) > f: 3823040 4562944 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 5220*- 9594*) > > Please advise... > > Thanks! > > Alok K. Dhir > Internet Access Group, Inc. > adhir@iagi.net > (301) 652-0484 Fax: (301) 652-0649 > http://www.iagi.net > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 13:56:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA17765 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:56:04 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA17759 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:55:59 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA03154; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:55:47 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510112055.NAA03154@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: bad144 on a 1gig IDE drive To: rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert N Watson) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert N Watson" at Oct 10, 95 04:05:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1842 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes, it's me, the one with numerous NIS, wd1, etc, problems. Well, > those are all fixed ;). However, now I have to deal with a set of bad > blocks that inopportunely turned up in my /var partition. It's going to > be one of those days, I think (so far in the last two days: failed to > install a 540 meg IDE drive for about 18+ housr). I have set several > bad144 sessions going over the past 8 hours, trying to get some > combination and setup that is happy, and have had a variety of problems, > but so far been unable to mark any bad blocks with it. It scans fine, > and finds them, they just don't get marked because bad144 aborts each > time. This time it got.. > > ... > Block: 271516 will be marked BAD. > Block: 271517 will be marked BAD. > Block: 271518 will be marked BAD. > Too many bad sectors, can only handle 126 per slice. ^^^^^^^^^^ > fledge> divide your disk into two slices.. :) > > Which seems logical, only leaving the question what to do about it. It > also failed with a variety of sn# errors earlier, but that seems to have > stopped for now. As far as I know, badsect is the other bad sector > handling program -- does anyopne have any particular advice as to how to > pull all the information together and block off the sectors from general > use? I assume some script combining bad144 to get the bad block > numbers, and then badsect to create a file over them, but I honestly > don't know, as I haven't dealt with this problem before. Is there any > way to turn up the number of sectors handled by bad144, or a premade > script someone has lying around to block out such sectors? > > Thanks.. > > Robert > ---- > Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS > http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 14:01:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA17950 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:01:30 -0700 Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (root@gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA17905 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 14:00:05 -0700 Received: by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.6.10/1.53) id VAA04611; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:58:11 +0100 From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199510112058.VAA04611@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Re: Hard disk copying To: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 21:58:11 +0100 (MET) Cc: itemple@elysium.CLare.tased.EDU.AU, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9510101239.AA14874@wavehh.hanse.de> from "Martin Cracauer" at Oct 10, 95 01:39:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 322 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I ususally use > > newfs /dev/target_partition > #mount it > cd /mount_of_new_filefilesystem > dump 0sf 400000 - /usr_or_whatever | restore rf - > But it is rediculously slow when there are lots of dir entries. I think it should improve when the file system which is restored to is mounted with option async. -Guido From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 15:04:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA20368 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:04:39 -0700 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA20359 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:04:35 -0700 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com by gemsgw.med.ge.com (4.1/GEMS-1.1) id AA00323; Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:06:37 CDT Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw [3.28.124.2]) by gemed.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA29033 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:03:00 -0500 Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21490; Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:04:44 CDT From: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA06834; Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:04:42 CDT Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:04:42 CDT Message-Id: <9510112204.AA06834@merak.med.ge.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory required 4M or 8M Cc: caj@med.ge.com, laufen@med.ge.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What are the memory requirements for 2.05 and 2.1? I missed the discussion a while back on 2.1. Derek Laufenberg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 17:02:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA23921 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:02:11 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA23916 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:02:09 -0700 Received: from bud.indirect.com (straka@bud.indirect.com [165.247.1.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA04110 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:01:16 -0700 Received: (from straka@localhost) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA00168; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:00:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:00:38 -0700 (MST) From: "Richard S. Straka" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: NFS performance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have set up my 486DX-100 as an NFS server for a network that currently has PCNFS running on a Pentium-100 and a 386DX-25 (all machines are using Intel EtherExpress Boards). I am using a FreeBSD-stable kernel which I downloaded from wcarchive.cdrom.com on approx 1 Oct 95. The server filesystem is mounted on the Pentium with rsize=8192 and wsize=8192. While reading from the NFS server, the Pentium can achieve 600-700KB/sec, nearly the speed of the ether. While writing to the server, however, the speed of the tranfers seem to be limited to about 100KB/sec with alot of disk thrashing occuring on the server. While running SYSTAT on the server, I noticed that the processor idle time is still greater than 50% but the disk transfer rate is around 400KB/sec with 40-50 seeks/sec. Why is the disk transfer rate 4 times the file transfer rate between the client and the server and why so many seeks? I have used NETSTAT to verfy that I am not dropping any UDP packets. In sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c in the kernel code there is a compiler directive NFS_ASYNC. When I compile the kernel with this directive set, the file transfer speed while writing to the server increases to about 400KB/sec (still not the 600-700KB/sec realized while reading from the server) and the apparent disk thrashing is gone (400KB/sec disk transfers with 10-20 seeks/sec). This change, however, has made the server file system very vunerable to system crashes. Two power outages (even after the system had been idle for several minutes - no nfs transfers) have resulted in broken filesystems (more than 100 bad INODES). In both instances, the file system was unrecoverable (FSCK core dumped) and a new filesystem had to be created on the drive. Are there any suggestions for improving the speed of the clients writing to the server while still maintaining a reasonable tolerance to system crashes? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. My e-mail address is straka@indirect.com. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 17:44:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA24749 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:44:14 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA24740 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:44:09 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA14102; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:40:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510120040.RAA14102@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NFS performance To: straka@indirect.com (Richard S. Straka) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 17:40:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard S. Straka" at Oct 11, 95 05:00:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 6852 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have set up my 486DX-100 as an NFS server for a network that currently > has PCNFS running on a Pentium-100 and a 386DX-25 (all machines are using > Intel EtherExpress Boards). I am using a FreeBSD-stable kernel which I > downloaded from wcarchive.cdrom.com on approx 1 Oct 95. The server > filesystem is mounted on the Pentium with rsize=8192 and wsize=8192. Try droppwing the rsize/wsize to 1024. This may seem counter-intuitive, but if the problem is timeouts expiring and causing retries, this should actually speed up the client writes. You don't say what kind of thercard you have; and NE2000 or clone will have signifcantly reduced performance in one direction or the other because of an inability to double-buffer because of memory size limits on that type of card. They are bad cards for servers. > While reading from the NFS server, the Pentium can achieve 600-700KB/sec, > nearly the speed of the ether. This is expected behaviour. > While writing to the server, however, the speed of the tranfers > seem to be limited to about 100KB/sec with alot of disk thrashing > occuring on the server. While running SYSTAT on the server, I noticed > that the processor idle time is still greater than 50% but the disk > transfer rate is around 400KB/sec with 40-50 seeks/sec. Why is the disk > transfer rate 4 times the file transfer rate between the client and the > server and why so many seeks? I have used NETSTAT to verfy that I am not > dropping any UDP packets. Because the file system metadata is being synchronously updated to make the file system more robust in the face of a system crash. The seeks are because of the synchronus transfers. The actual problem the file system is attempting to fix by doing synchronus I/O is ensuring write ordering. This could be achieved just as well by prioritizing multiple async queues, or by othewise ordering the writes (in fact Novell/USL had a patent pending on "delayed ordered writes" for this exact problem in UFS in UnixWare 2.0 last year when I left them). The multiple queue soloution has the benefit of not being succeptable to the patent (if it was even granted -- you can show serious prior art by a number of people in the disk drive industry if need be). > In sys/nfs/nfs_serv.c in the kernel code there is a compiler directive > NFS_ASYNC. When I compile the kernel with this directive set, the file > transfer speed while writing to the server increases to about 400KB/sec > (still not the 600-700KB/sec realized while reading from the server) > and the apparent disk thrashing is gone (400KB/sec disk transfers with > 10-20 seeks/sec). The NFS_ASYNC option almost inevitibly assumes the use of a UPS on your server. It gains its speed by causing what would normally be synchronus metadata updates to be asynchronous, and therefore the write is then acknowledged by the server before it has occurred. This is very dangerous in the sense of increased fragility in the event of system crashes (luckily FreeBSD is quite stable in almost every case except actual power and hardware failures). In reality, there are two types of updates occurring synchronously, and both are forced async by the change. In practice, this is probably a lot more fragile an implementation than it needs to be. Specifically, if directory entry data is still updates synchronously, but file system metadata, in particular, time stamps, are updated async, and then file system data is written async, the damage to file system structure would be drastically reduced. With async data writes, though, you are still open to corrupt file contents, but at least the file system structure would be secure. This would require a seperation in the treatment of metadata into two classes, with time stamps being the inferior class (POSIX guarantees only apply to *marking* for update, not actually updating with regards to things like time stamps). The speed you achieved reading from the server is probably the result of getting data cache hits. You are unlikely to ever be able to get this data rate on writes, period. Writes on frags or not in core pages have to fault in a page and partially update it before writing it back out; in efffect, all write operations, unless a page in size and page aligned, will take the same time as a read plus the actual write. Some of this could (but has not been) alleviated by the NFS implementation itself doing page alignment caching of data writes. There has been relatively little effort put into work on server caching. Ideally, one could "know" the disk was one capable of track write caching and force the write async after it goes to the controller instead of waiting for completion. This is a general speedup in any case. The same could be done for controllers with NVRAM for write caching. Typically, this would not effect you, since you probably do not have the hardware for it. The "seek overhead" unless it is being retrieved from the disk itself, is a fictional number and does not reflect performance. This is because it is unlikely that you are running on a drive without translated geometry or Zone Boundry Recording, etc.. I would ignore this number completely, since the actual number of seeks is probably unrelated. > This change, however, has made the server file system very vunerable > to system crashes. Two power outages (even after the system had been > idle for several minutes - no nfs transfers) have resulted in broken > filesystems (more than 100 bad INODES). This is expected behavior. Part of the fault lies in the dirty page flush policies, which under BSD are not as aggresive as they should be in terms of a window guarantee until the data is on disk. Part is also the fault of the page marking mechanism invalidating a potentially correct copy (except for time stamps, etc.) on disk, as if the data contained on disk is completely invalid. This policy can be (and probably will be) changed. At the very least, this also wants to have semantic and integrity update guarantees to be seperate as well. At the most, file system idle time should be watched and file system updates (even to the point of marking the FS clean!) should be done if the file system is idle for say 30 seconds. > In both instances, the file system was unrecoverable (FSCK core > dumped) and a new filesystem had to be created on the drive. Are there > any suggestions for improving the speed of the clients writing to the > server while still maintaining a reasonable tolerance to system crashes? I would certainly consider a UPS. Or you can become a file system or disk driver hacker. 8-). Either one would allow safer use of the flag NFS_ASYNC. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 18:09:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA25462 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:09:23 -0700 Received: from specgw.spec.co.jp (specgw.spec.co.jp [202.32.13.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA25442 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:08:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (amurai@localhost) by specgw.spec.co.jp (8.6.5/3.3Wb-SPEC) id KAA23525; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:01:44 +0900 From: Atsushi MURAI Message-Id: <199510120101.KAA23525@specgw.spec.co.jp> Subject: Re: PPP To: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu (-=WireHead=-) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:01:43 +0900 (JST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "-=WireHead=-" at Oct 11, 95 02:55:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 796 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hello all, > > I am having a peculiar problem that I when I am establishing a ppp > connection, in order for my system to be able to reckognize the route I > have to type add 0 0 HISADDR at the PPP ON> prompt. > My question: is there a way to eneble this in the script (ppp.conf)? i > tried by adding exactly that line, but it does not seem to work. > ThanX in advance! Refer to /etc/ppp.linkup.sample and then rename to ppp.linkup with follows. -------------------------------------------------------- # # Otherwide, simply add peer as default gateway. # MYADDR: add 0 0 HISADDR --------------------------------------------------------- Good Luck. Atsushi. -- Atsushi Murai Email : amurai@spec.co.jp SPEC Voice : +81-3-3833-5341 System Planning and Engineering Corp. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 18:15:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA25950 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:15:53 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA25933 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:15:40 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA15603; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:14:49 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510120144.LAA15603@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Help ! Problem with FreeBSD on Ethernet To: armando_ferreira@il.us.swissbank.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:14:48 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, suresh_nalluri@il.us.swissbank.com In-Reply-To: <9510111258.AA02584@ln1d278nwk> from "Armando Ferreira" at Oct 11, 95 01:58:38 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 932 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Armando Ferreira stands accused of saying: > > 1- Does anybody know of a (good) book on freeBSD sys admin ? The Evi Nemeth book (second edition) is meant to be very good. > Could it be that I need an entry in /etc/sysconfig for ed0 ? I only have the > following entries: Your ifconfig output below indicates that ed0 has been configured. If you did this correctly manually, you need to correct /etc/sysconfig to : > network_interfaces="lo0 ed0" > ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" ifconfig_ed0="inet 194.72.241.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > Armando. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 18:15:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA25972 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:15:59 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA25962 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:15:56 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA15615; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:15:16 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510120145.LAA15615@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: EDITOR environment variable To: dbrockus@cyberhall.com (David Brockus) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:15:16 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "David Brockus" at Oct 11, 95 10:58:40 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 870 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Brockus stands accused of saying: > > I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I am trying to set pico as the default > editor for the vipw command. Pico is in the path and can be executed > from the shell prompt. > > I have the following lines in the root users .profile > > EDITOR=pico > export EDITOR > > This does not work. Could someone tell my the correct syntax and file to > edit to add environment variables to FreeBSD. Unless you have changed something, root's shell is csh. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 18:17:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA26069 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:17:10 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA26062 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 18:17:03 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA15628; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:16:21 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510120146.LAA15628@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: mounting dos To: jagnew@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Howland Jared Agnew) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:16:20 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Howland Jared Agnew" at Oct 11, 95 03:33:43 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 737 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howland Jared Agnew stands accused of saying: > > If you could please write me and tell me how to mount my msdos > partition. I have read the faq and the man pages and still cant get it > to work. Thanks in advance. If your MSDOS partition is the first partition on your IDE disk : # mount -t msdos /dev/wd0s1 /mnt is all you need. > H. Jared Agnew -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 19:17:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA28904 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:17:28 -0700 Received: from jbrann (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA28891 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:17:18 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA23698 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:04:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199510120204.WAA23698@jbrann> Subject: Dropping off mailing lists To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 343 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Twice in the last month my mail from the FreeBSD lists has mysteriously dried up. After checking with majordomo I find that I am not subscribed to any of the lists... Is anyone else suffering from this? John -- Difficult conversations with great figures of history: 3. Winston Churchill: "Excuse me, this is the no-smoking section." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 19:34:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA00180 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:34:01 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA00173 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 19:33:57 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id WAA01637; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:22:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Dropping off mailing lists To: John Brann cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120204.WAA23698@jbrann> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, John Brann wrote: > Twice in the last month my mail from the FreeBSD lists has mysteriously > dried up. After checking with majordomo I find that I am not subscribed > to any of the lists... its not really mysterious...its just that i can not send you mail to inform you that you have been bouncing so much mail that i am going to unusbscribe you. sorta a catch-22, if you will. recently you or your provider panix.com has been returning between 30+ and 60+ messages a day to FreeBSD.ORG. > Is anyone else suffering from this? oh, yes! some days are better than others....some days i remove nearly 50 subscriptions ;( dont feel bad though, you are not the worst. a particular individual recently bounced over 200 message in one day. jmb Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 22:17:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA09279 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:17:55 -0700 Received: from russian.engin.umich.edu (root@russian.engin.umich.edu [141.212.64.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA09274 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:17:52 -0700 Received: from russian.engin.umich.edu (ckwang@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by russian.engin.umich.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id BAA11798 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:16:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199510120516.BAA11798@russian.engin.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 01:16:58 -0400 From: chi-kuo gregory wang X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel Compiling error! X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/How/handbook/handbook66.html#113 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am a new FreeBSD user. I try to compile the kernel for my system. I didn't have my /usr/src/sys at first, I got the kernal source from sup supfile src-sys. I only add an line on the GENERIC configuration for my PS/2 mouse. device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmint r I got the following error message: cc -O2 -I/archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern -I/archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/.. -DKERNEL -c mcount.c -o mcount.o In file included from /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/param.h:54, from mcount.c:36: /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: parse error before `off_t' /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:72: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: parse error before `pid_t' /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/types.h:73: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/param.h:83, from mcount.c:36: /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/uio.h:63: parse error before `off_t' /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/uio.h:63: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /archive/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/libkern/../sys/uio.h:68: parse error before `}' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ========================================================================== The attached is my configuartion, called DELL1. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.47 1995/08/18 11:26:16 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident DELL1 maxusers 10 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM controller ncr0 controller ahc0 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seai ntr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr controller matcd0 at isa? port ? bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty device lpt2 at isa? port? tty device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wang, Chi-Kuo (Gregory) IOE Department Univ. of Michigan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address: 1851 Lake Lila Dr. Apt. B7 Tel : (313) 663-2659 Ann Arbor, MI 48105 E-mail : ckwang@umich.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- www: http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~ckwang From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 22:34:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA09773 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:34:54 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA09768 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:34:53 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA156856088; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 22:34:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199510120534.AA156856088@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA261386087; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:34:47 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: VBIX/db for FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 15:34:47 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- FYI : > > From: jalvarez@uno.com > > Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce > > Subject: COMMERCIAL: VBASE for Linux ! > > Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc > > Date: Thu, 05 Oct 95 14:14:02 GMT > > Organization: ? > > Lines: 64 > > Approved: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov (Lars Wirzenius) > > Message-ID: > > NNTP-Posting-Host: kruuna.helsinki.fi > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 31, 1995 > > > > Contact: Don Hsi, President > > (408) 378-9898 X103 > > (408) 378-9935 Fax > > 1590 La Pradera Dr. Campbell, CA 95008 > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > Halcyon Software Releases VBASE, a multi-platform SQL database > > _______________________________________________________________ > > > > CAMPBELL, California--Halcyon Software announced today, the release of > > VBASE, > > a full-featured, multi-user SQL database server running under Windows(tm) > > 3.x, > > Windows 95, Windows NT and UNIX environments, including Sun OS, Sun Solaris, > > Unixware, AIX, HP/UX,SCO and Linux. > > > > VBASE highlights include full data recovery, transaction logging, > > record-level > > locking, full ANSI SQL standard compliance and an ODBC interface. In > > addition, > > VBASE includes performance-enhancing SQL extensions and access to shared > > cursors in its Windows versions. According to Don Hsi, Halcyons president > > and > > founder, VBASE provides an economical yet powerful alternative to other > > DBMSes > > on the market. In addition, it is designed to interface effortlessly with our > > VBIX (Visual Basic on UNIX) products for customers who need a one-stop data > > access solution. > > > > Halcyon Software has been in business since 1990 providing engineering > > solutions to customers worldwide. It has successfully marketed and sold more > > than a half dozen commercial applications. > > > > ### > > Windows and Visual Basic are registered trademarks of Microsoft Corporation > > ### > > Visual Basic is registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > VBIX uses the WM_MOTIF windowing system under Motif. For additional > > information on WM_MOTIF, please contact Software UNO at info@uno.com > > (800) 840-UNIX (8649) (809)723-5000 Fax (809)722-6242 WWW http://www.uno.com > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: 2.6.2i > > > > iQCVAwUBMHPmxIQRll5MupLRAQGtFAP+NqHz0qfSoR3+KxxB6ij3iVnX890BbTfr > > ptHOwuB0Eim3yJPS3yxixgWFmCgkJGbeMr3lJHpA8iqzHZwcOBW7WRCwRoANOJKs > > zlEQtOkLE8ik5ELkKhX9qubeY4W7LVV6CY3Ltj1KTd48Wrbru03IRUBn22Kdoln1 > > CtUzvD/TdUQ= > > =BkZB > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > > This article has been digitally signed by the moderator, using PGP. > > Finger wirzeniu@kruuna.helsinki.fi for PGP key needed for validating signature. > > Send submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@news.ornl.gov > > PLEASE remember a short description of the software and the LOCATION. An enquiry of a possible port of the above post to FreeBSD results in a positive reply : > > From dhsi@netcom.com Thu Oct 12 15:21:47 EST 1995 > > Received: from hp.com by hpato.aus.hp.com with ESMTP > > (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA131685302; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:21:43 +1000 > > Return-Path: > > Received: from netcom16.netcom.com by hp.com with ESMTP > > (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA245870389; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:53:11 -0700 > > Received: by netcom16.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) > > id JAA02810; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:49:40 -0700 > > From: dhsi@netcom.com (don hsi) > > Message-Id: <199510111649.JAA02810@netcom16.netcom.com> > > Subject: VBIX/db for FreeBSD > > To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com > > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 09:49:40 -0700 (PDT) > > Cc: dhsi@netcom.com (don hsi) > > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Length: 3180 > > Status: RO > > Hi, > > I wonder if you company has any intention of porting the product > > to FreeBSD ? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > M.C Wong > > > > Dear Mr. Wong, > We can port the database engine to FreeBSD, however, we need a > committed sales beforehand. Will you lookint at single copy or > multiple copies? > We can send you VBIX/db database engine on either Sun or Linux for your > evaluation first if you wish. Please fill up the Early Bird Program > form enclosed below. > There is a per-user license fee associated with the VBIX runtime engine > start at $495, and adjusted based upon the volume discount. The VBIX/db > database engine is priced at $495 for single-user/developer version and > $1,995 for the server version. > Regards, > Don Hsi > --- cut here--- > VBIX(tm) Early Bird Program Registration Form > (fax to 408-378-9935, email to dhsi@netcom.com) > Company: __________________________________________________________ > Job Title:_________________________________________________________ > First Name:_________________________ Last Name:____________________ > Tel:__________________________ Fax:______________________________ > EMAIL(required):___________________________ www/ftp:_______________ > Address:___________________________________________________________ > City:___________________________ State:_____ Zip:__________________ > Country:___________________________________________________________ > Intended Usage:____________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > (check one platform you wish to receive VBIX initially) > Hardware/OS: ______________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > VBX (custom controls)used:_________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > Use: OLE2? (y/n):____ DLL? (y/n):____ MAPI? (y/n):____ > MSComm?(y/n):____ Data Control?(y/n):____ ODBC?(y/n):____ > others:______________________________________________________ > Type of DLL used___________________________________________________ > ___________________________________________________________________ > UNIX Database used:________________________________________________ > Need VBIX/DB database engine?(y/n):_____ > If yes, which platform?:___________________________________________ > Number of VBIX licenses needed (estimate):_________________________ > Number of VBIX/db needed (estimate):_______________________________ - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 272 8058 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 898 9257 31 Joseph St, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMHyo8EmThh0X7Um5AQEgzwP8CKsl1VTNZnEFnuQaw4GUEDCWvBgEmXer uokCBscUclYgxjh+1kj8Sm965LemUK7QDH8FtTFy0kwEiDpqBsFvMFFzHE4KDoZe zK8ktSiYFSP8oA2NN9VGx+E9ixMeV2GrhZANHwWZ92axELdr8AE+CHBJQH4ZsuQt wGdII6xuVnw= =gR0F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 23:03:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA10107 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:03:11 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA10102 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:03:09 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA19538; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:02:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:02:42 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510120602.XAA19538@smokey.ee.washington.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Disk utility woes Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I enjoy using FreeBSD, but when it comes to partitioning and labeling (or whatever in the hell BSD calls it), it just plain sucks. I'm really getting tired of struggling with these utilities when fdisk and newfs used to work just fine for the majority of us. Now, I get to duke it out with a crippled fdisk and this disklabel thing (which I have yet to figure out). No, reading the manpage and the FAQ on the WEB did not help. If I just run disklabel /dev/rsd0, this is what I get: # /dev/rsd0: type: unknown disk: label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 1549 sectors/unit: 640584 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 640584 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 312*) Warning, revolutions/minute 0 boot block size 0 super block size 0 It looks like I got fdisk to properly set up the disk for a FreeBSD partition. ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1549 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1549 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1, size 638975 (311 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; end: cyl 311/ sector 32/ head 63 If I try to run disklabel -e mode, this is the error I get when I try to finally write a label: disklabel: ioctl DIOCWDINFO: Operation not supported by device I never get any farther than this. I cannot tell if this is a software problem, a supported hardware problem, or me. One thing that's strange is that my disks are not detected cleanly on my Adaptec 6230: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 sd1(aic0:2:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640500 512 byte sectors) I have not been able to get an explanation for this. I do know that Linux was able to figure what they were and newfs them properly... What the heck am I supposed to do? Thanks, -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 11 23:34:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA10736 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:34:09 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA10731 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:34:07 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA19754 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:33:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:33:48 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510120633.XAA19754@smokey.ee.washington.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: More info on disk woes Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello: Out of curiousity, I decided to peruse the scsi(8) manpage, and when I tried to run one of the examples, this is what I found: % scsi -f /dev/rsd0c -c "12 0 0 0 64 0" -i 64 "s8 z8 z16 z4" SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl: Command accepted. host adapter status 2 Command out (6 of 6): 12 00 00 00 64 00 Data in (64 of 64): 00 00 01 01 27 12 00 00 43 44 43 20 20 20 20 20 # ....'...CDC 39 34 31 37 31 2d 39 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 # 94171-9 30 30 34 35 30 30 31 32 30 33 33 37 00 00 00 00 # 004500120337.... 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # ................ No sense sent. CDC 94171-9 0045 % scsi -f /dev/rsd1c -c "12 0 0 0 64 0" -i 64 "s8 z8 z16 z4" SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl: Command accepted. host adapter status 2 Command out (6 of 6): 12 00 00 00 64 00 Data in (64 of 64): 00 00 00 01 1f 12 00 00 45 4d 55 4c 45 58 20 20 # ........EMULEX 4d 44 32 31 2f 53 32 20 20 20 20 20 45 53 44 49 # MD21/S2 ESDI 41 30 30 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # A00 ............ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # ................ No sense sent. EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 I am still not sure why the boot code cannot INQUIRE to my disks: % dmesg | grep aic aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 sd1(aic0:2:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640500 512 byte sectors) So, scsi(8) works, but the driver is not talking to one of my drives properly. -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 00:49:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA13452 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:49:28 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA13447 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:49:26 -0700 Received: (from olsenc@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA00197; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:49:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 00:49:25 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510120749.AAA00197@smokey.ee.washington.edu> To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI_DELAY Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It was suggested that I increase SCSI_DELAY. As I suspected, it didn't have any effect. I changed it from 10 to 20 seconds. I doubt an eon would have any difference: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 However, using scsi(8) commands does properly identify the second disk. Could the aic driver be at fault? Thanks, -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 01:30:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA16055 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:30:39 -0700 Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA15916 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:30:06 -0700 Received: from harvard.contech.co.za by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0t3Iyj-000KhDC; Thu, 12 Oct 95 10:27 EET Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Harverson" Organization: Network Academy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:32:11 +2:00 Subject: Xfree86 Strangeness... Reply-to: harverso@aztec.co.za Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey there all, You have been warned... This is a LONG message ;) I have just installed xfree86311 ( the version distributed with 2.0.5) on a machine and I am getting a strange response I've never seen on any other server. It is dying without a fatal: error message or anything like that and I'm at a loss as to why... The server starts up, Opens the display (with a nice 'lil ol cross for my mouse cursor) stays open for 3 or for seconds and then closes ( and all I see on the command line is : waiting for X server to shut down..) Oh : the card is a vesa cirrus with the CL-GD5430 Chipset, The monitor is an ultra cs1404 server output and Xf86 below.. Thanks a bunch Tony this is what the server outputs on startup : XFree86 Version 3.1.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6000) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.0 Configured drivers: SVGA: server for 8-bit colour SVGA (Patchlevel 0): et4000, et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, vgawonder, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga9000, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, oti067, oti077, oti087, mx, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ct65520, ct65530, ct65540, ct65545, generic Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 4) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/cuaa0, baudrate: 1200 (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Unknown Vesa" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Tonys" (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) SVGA: Cirrus driver patchlevel 2 (--) SVGA: chipset: clgd5430 (--) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (**) SVGA: clocks: 25.23 28.32 41.16 36.08 31.50 39.99 45.08 49.87 (**) SVGA: clocks: 64.98 72.16 75.00 80.01 85.23 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 85.500 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.230 (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 36.000, clock used = 36.080 (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 44.900, clock used = 45.080 (**) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1152x900 (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024 (--) SVGA: clgd5430: Internal memory clock register is 0x1c (Standard RAS) (**) SVGA: clgd5430: Approximate DRAM bandwidth for drawing: 74 of 100 MB/s (--) SVGA: clgd5430: 11776 bytes off-screen memory available (--) SVGA: clgd5430: Using hardware cursor (--) SVGA: clgd5430: Using accelerator functions (--) SVGA: clgd5430: Using BitBLT engine MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support waiting for X server to shut down and here is my xf86config : # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "MouseSystems" Device "/dev/cuaa0" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Tonys" VendorName "Ultra" ModelName "cs1404" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified # Bandwidth 25.2 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5 - 35.5 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-90 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 602 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "Unknown Vesa" VendorName "cirrus" BoardName "9450N" #VideoRam 1024 Clocks 25.23 28.32 41.16 36.08 31.50 39.99 45.08 49.87 Clocks 64.98 72.16 75.00 80.01 85.23 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "Unknown Vesa" Monitor "Tonys" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA Virtual 1152 900 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 640 400 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Tonys" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Tonys" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "Unknown Vesa" Monitor "Tonys" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1152 900 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 640 400 EndSubsection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 01:37:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA16846 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:37:45 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA16833 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 01:37:40 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA16401; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:37:28 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510120907.SAA16401@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCSI_DELAY To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:37:27 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120749.AAA00197@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 12, 95 00:49:25 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1549 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Clint Olsen stands accused of saying: > > It was suggested that I increase SCSI_DELAY. As I suspected, it > didn't have any effect. I changed it from 10 to 20 seconds. I > doubt an eon would have any difference: > > aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa > aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 > sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) > (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 > > However, using scsi(8) commands does properly identify the second > disk. Could the aic driver be at fault? No, as the scsi(8) command just uses the aic driver. It's more likely that either : a) if you check the response back during the initial enquiry it's slightly incorrect (I don't have the spec handy, so I can't be sure) or b) the MD21 normally returns the drive type of the ESDI disk attached to it. It's possible that the disk you're using doesn't return its type, and the MD21 is behaving strangely because of this. Either way, I wouldn't sweat it. The MD21 has enough other quirks that a slight bogosity in an inquiry command shouldn't lose you any sleep. > -Clint -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 02:11:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA19937 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:11:34 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA19924 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:11:30 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA04673; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:11:23 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510120911.CAA04673@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: SCSI_DELAY To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120749.AAA00197@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 12, 95 00:49:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 826 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > It was suggested that I increase SCSI_DELAY. As I suspected, it > didn't have any effect. I changed it from 10 to 20 seconds. I > doubt an eon would have any difference: > > aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa > aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 > sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) > (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 Well it's seeing the device.. but the resulting data isn't standard... so it doesn't know the type is this a REALLY OLD device? (like maybe SASI not even SCSI?) can you show that identify data again? I'll look at it better next time.. i promise.. > > However, using scsi(8) commands does properly identify the second > disk. Could the aic driver be at fault? > > Thanks, > > -Clint > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 02:25:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA21050 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:25:27 -0700 Received: from aerodyne.technion.ac.il (aerygis@aerodyne.technion.ac.il [132.68.147.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA21031 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:25:20 -0700 Received: (aerygis@localhost) by aerodyne.technion.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6) id LAA71534; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:24:48 +0200 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:24:48 +0200 (WET) From: Yuri Gindin To: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello , You must create a file /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup See example in /etc/ppp/ppp/limkup.sample --Yuri On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, -=WireHead=- wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am having a peculiar problem that I when I am establishing a ppp > connection, in order for my system to be able to reckognize the route I > have to type add 0 0 HISADDR at the PPP ON> prompt. > My question: is there a way to eneble this in the script (ppp.conf)? i > tried by adding exactly that line, but it does not seem to work. > ThanX in advance! > > -=Timothy > > > > Timothy M. Butkiewicz *-----^\/\/|Phone: 616.349.8044 > University Computing Services *----------^\/\/|Fax: 616.373.6680 > Western Michigan University *---------^\/\/|eMail: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu > Kalamazoo, Michigan *------------^\/\/|http://arbornet.org/~wirehead > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 02:59:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA23773 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:59:38 -0700 Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com (dub-img-4.compuserve.com [198.4.9.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA23757 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:59:32 -0700 Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id FAA06235; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 05:59:01 -0400 Date: 12 Oct 95 05:58:17 EDT From: Evan Polster <71544.1006@compuserve.com> To: FreeBSD Subject: Can't login to root from X Message-ID: <951012095816_71544.1006_EHL69-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have succesfully booted X by logging into my personal account. However, I cannot login to root. My root password is NULL. Any ideas? EP From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 03:16:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA24538 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 03:16:50 -0700 Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA24520 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 03:16:40 -0700 Received: from harvard.contech.co.za by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0t3KdH-000KeNC; Thu, 12 Oct 95 12:12 EET Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Harverson" Organization: Network Academy To: FreeBSD , Evan Polster <71544.1006@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:18:11 +2:00 Subject: Re: Can't login to root from X Reply-to: harverso@aztec.co.za Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have succesfully booted X by logging into my personal account. > > However, I cannot login to root. > > My root password is NULL. > > Any ideas? You'll probably find that you have declared the ttys used for network connections to insecure (so that you can't log in as root over the network) Since X uses these for it's xterm sessions, you won't be able to log in... So... Log in as root and su ;) Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 04:16:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA29344 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 04:16:38 -0700 Received: from dira.bris.ac.uk (dira.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA29336 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 04:16:34 -0700 Received: from kukini.cs.bris.ac.uk by dira.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:15:55 +0100 Received: from danno by kukini.compsci.bristol.ac.uk id aa07865; 12 Oct 95 11:19 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PCNFS Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 12:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: <10762.813496533@danno> From: David Hedley Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody managed to get a PC running PCNFS (5.x) to mount a directory on a FreeBSD host using the standard nfsd/mountd combination? I can't get it to work at all. In the end I have resorted to compiling the user-space nfs server code that Linux uses and this seems to work OK (although directories with more than 20 files seem to screw it up badly). I'm pretty sure it isn't a permissions problem as I don't have to tell the user-space nfsd/mountd to allow accesses from unprivileged port or mounts from non-root clients. Can someone verify that it does actually work? I have checked the mail archives via the Web but I couldn't find a definition answer. David p.s. I am running FreeBSD 2.1 SNAP from a couple of weeks ago. -- David Hedley (David.Hedley@bris.ac.uk) http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~hedley/ finger hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk for PGP key Computer Graphics Group | University of Bristol | UK *** All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone *** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 05:56:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA07950 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 05:56:15 -0700 Received: from gate.gb.swissbank.com (gate.sbc.co.uk [193.114.243.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA07925 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 05:55:59 -0700 Received: from gb.swissbank.com by gate.gb.swissbank.com; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:55:39 +0100 Message-Id: <12116.199510121255@gpo.gb.swissbank.com> Received: from ln1d83swk(155.145.239.29) by gpo.gb.swissbank.com via smap (V1.3) id sma012068; Thu Oct 12 13:55:23 1995 To: Michael Smith Cc: ferreia%il.us.swissbank.com@gb.swissbank.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, nallurs@gb.swissbank.com Subject: Re: Help ! Problem with FreeBSD on Ethernet Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:48:42 +0100 From: Suresh Nalluri X-MD5: 9884124aa82ed2178e411fd5e6e118ff X-SNEFRU: 69ecf138 0fbab805 cfc731cd 62f01ce0 16a13118 7948bc29 cd2ed69b ec0370c3 X-chksum-host: gpo.gb.swissbank.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199510120144.LAA15603@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>, Michael Smith writes: > Armando Ferreira stands accused of saying: > > .... > > Could it be that I need an entry in /etc/sysconfig for ed0 ? I only have the > > following entries: > Your ifconfig output below indicates that ed0 has been configured. If > you did this correctly manually, you need to correct /etc/sysconfig to : > > network_interfaces="lo0 ed0" > > ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" > ifconfig_ed0="inet 194.72.241.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" Hi Mike, Yes I did this - in fact originally I had my /etc/rc.local doing this for me. BUT we are still nowhere on it... We are using a Western Digitial card - does anyone know of any problems with this card and FreeBSD. thanks - suresh From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 06:47:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA13455 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 06:47:11 -0700 Received: from kangaroo.ida.com.au (ida.com.au [203.8.105.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA13381 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 06:47:03 -0700 Received: (from drew@localhost) by kangaroo.ida.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA06668; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:47:22 +1000 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:47:21 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Stephen Heath To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Virtual Sockets Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm currently running a FreeBSD 2.0.5 Box on a 486DX266 and I'm wanting to install virtual socket interfaces into the kernel so I can have separate ports and IPs for our WWW clients. Could you help me out by either pointing me in the right direction of a FAQ on the subject, or by giving me information on what needs to be set up in the kernel before it is recompiled. (If it needs to be at all.) I am running the NCSA httpd 1.4.3, and have approximately 6 domains all currently pointing to my one IP Thanks for your help, Drew ---- Andrew Heath Internet Directory Australia drew@ida.com.au http://www.ida.com.au/ Phone 0419335398 Fax 0394893346 PO Box 1003 Fitzroy North Vic Aust 3068 Offering Australia the World From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 07:23:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA16720 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 07:23:49 -0700 Received: from plains.nodak.edu (89@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA16703 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 07:23:43 -0700 Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.6.11/8.6.10) id JAA16125; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:23:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:23:27 -0500 From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199510121423.JAA16125@plains.nodak.edu> To: 71544.1006@compuserve.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't login to root from X Content-Length: 522 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have succesfully booted X by logging into my personal account. > > However, I cannot login to root. > > My root password is NULL. X uses psuedo-ttys. By default, your the psuedo-tty are not set to be "secure". If you really want to open up the ability for someone to login into the root account from a network port, add the word "secure" to the ttypx in /etc/ttys. My advice is to log into the account as you and "su" to root. the root account is not for logging into from either network or console. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 08:44:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA19882 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:44:21 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA19877 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:44:17 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA00754; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:44:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:44:15 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510121544.IAA00754@smokey.ee.washington.edu> To: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: scsi(8) requested output here Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello: # scsi -f /dev/rsd0c -c "12 0 0 0 64 0" -i 64 "s8 z8 z16 z4" SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl: Command accepted. host adapter status 2 Command out (6 of 6): 12 00 00 00 64 00 Data in (64 of 64): 00 00 01 01 27 12 00 00 43 44 43 20 20 20 20 20 # ....'...CDC 39 34 31 37 31 2d 39 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 # 94171-9 30 30 34 35 30 30 31 32 30 33 33 37 00 00 00 00 # 004500120337.... 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # ................ No sense sent. CDC 94171-9 0045 # scsi -f /dev/rsd1c -c "12 0 0 0 64 0" -i 64 "s8 z8 z16 z4" SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl: Command accepted. host adapter status 2 Command out (6 of 6): 12 00 00 00 64 00 Data in (64 of 64): 00 00 00 01 1f 12 00 00 45 4d 55 4c 45 58 20 20 # ........EMULEX 4d 44 32 31 2f 53 32 20 20 20 20 20 45 53 44 49 # MD21/S2 ESDI 41 30 30 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # A00 ............ 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # ................ No sense sent. EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 Compare this to the resulting boot message from dmesg: aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 sd1(aic0:2:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640500 512 byte sectors) Note: o The ESDI disk has a SCSI translator on it (of sorts). Anyway, I looked at the driver source briefly, and it mentions some inherited ideas from Linux. Linux IS able to detect and speak/partition/newfs both drives. I'm concerned that these issues are keeping me from getting disklabel to work. I don't know what in the hell is going on. The commands to operate on the disk are not working for me. ******* Working on device /dev/rsd0 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1549 heads=51 sectors/track=8 (408 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1549 heads=51 sectors/track=8 (408 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 640584 (312 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 311/ sector 8/ head 50 Running disklabel -e -r sd0 gives me this: Bad pack magic number (label is damaged, or pack is unlabeled) I'm running out of ideas. -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 09:38:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA20865 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:38:32 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA20855 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:38:07 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA01845 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:37:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199510121637.JAA01845@everest> Subject: Hardware recommendations wanted To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm going to be upgrading one of my FreeBSD systems from a VESA LB 486 to a PCI bus P5. I'd like to hear some recommendations (and recommended vendors) for components known to be compatible with FreeBSD. Reliability is far and away my foremost concern, with price and performance being second and third. I'll need to replace the motherboard, SCSI host adapter, video card, and network card. I require 4 ISA slots, as I've got some legacy hardware that I need to be able to use in this machine. I especially need a vendor recommendation, as the wholesalers I deal with locally mostly sell crap. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 09:42:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA21049 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:42:28 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA21044 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:42:26 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA04602 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:35:20 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:35:20 GMT From: "Jeffrey D. Dean Root" Message-Id: <199510121235.MAA04602@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil> Apparently-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok, What do I have set up wrong? I cannot compile the kernel because I get a tz.tz_minuteswest is not constant error??? I am pretty sure after reading the error (10 times) that I do not have my TIMEZONE, and DST variables set properly. What exactly am I supposed to fix so that the kernel will compile. This error occured when compiling param.c from the Makefile... Thanx in advance.... Jeff root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 09:51:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA21280 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:51:28 -0700 Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA21275 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:51:25 -0700 Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA24900; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:50:30 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:50 EDT Received: from lakes (lakes [192.96.3.39]) by ponds.UUCP (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA29888; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:08:47 -0400 Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA05949; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:25:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:25:12 -0400 From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199510121225.IAA05949@lakes> To: panix.com!jbrann@dg-rtp.dg.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dropping off mailing lists Content-Type: text Content-Length: 674 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > Twice in the last month my mail from the FreeBSD lists has mysteriously > dried up. After checking with majordomo I find that I am not subscribed > to any of the lists... > > Is anyone else suffering from this? > > John I suffer from this every-now-and-then, but it is always associated with a mail problem between me an freebsd.org. When mail bounces back to Majordomo; it removes you from the mailing list to prevent a mail flood. So, if you have a problem with an intermediate site bouncing mail, you'll experience this. You just need to be aware that it's happened, and get back on the lists when your mail is working again. - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 09:54:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA21346 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:54:56 -0700 Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com (cyber1.cyberhall.com [206.41.142.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA21341 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 09:54:55 -0700 Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA24645; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:00:04 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:00:04 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Mailing Lists Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am using FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was interested in setting up a way to have someone email a single address, such as comments@cyberhall.com, then have that original message distributed to the email addresses of people that I haved defined. I was wondering if there is a way to send email to a group id and have the members of that group id receive the letter. I was also considering setting up a mailing list, but I am not certain what is involved in configuring it. Could some please assist me? Thanks. David From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 10:28:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA22494 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:28:07 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA22489 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:28:01 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA15319; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:23:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510121723.KAA15319@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: More info on disk woes To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:23:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120633.XAA19754@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 11, 95 11:33:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 786 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > % scsi -f /dev/rsd1c -c "12 0 0 0 64 0" -i 64 "s8 z8 z16 z4" > > SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl: Command accepted. > host adapter status 2 > Command out (6 of 6): > 12 00 00 00 64 00 > > Data in (64 of 64): > 00 00 00 01 1f 12 00 00 45 4d 55 4c 45 58 20 20 # ........EMULEX > 4d 44 32 31 2f 53 32 20 20 20 20 20 45 53 44 49 # MD21/S2 ESDI > 41 30 30 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # A00 ............ > 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # ................ > > No sense sent. > EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 Do you think the fact that this SCSI disk claims to be an ESDI disk might have something to do with your problem? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 10:28:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA22544 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:28:34 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA22539 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:28:30 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA15336; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:25:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510121725.KAA15336@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can't login to root from X To: 71544.1006@compuserve.com (Evan Polster) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:25:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <951012095816_71544.1006_EHL69-1@CompuServe.COM> from "Evan Polster" at Oct 12, 95 05:58:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 376 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have succesfully booted X by logging into my personal account. > > However, I cannot login to root. > > My root password is NULL. Are you running xdm? xdm does not function correctly with null passwords. Put a password on root. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 10:30:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA22605 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:30:59 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA22600 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:30:56 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA15345; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:27:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510121727.KAA15345@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PCNFS To: hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk (David Hedley) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:27:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10762.813496533@danno> from "David Hedley" at Oct 12, 95 12:15:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 805 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Has anybody managed to get a PC running PCNFS (5.x) to mount a directory on > a FreeBSD host using the standard nfsd/mountd combination? I can't get it > to work at all. In the end I have resorted to compiling the user-space nfs > server code that Linux uses and this seems to work OK (although directories > with more than 20 files seem to screw it up badly). PCNFS required PCNFSD or PCNFSD functionality. On Linux, the functionality is "almost there" (as you found out) in the user space daemon. On BSD, you *must* run the PCNFSD. Luckily PCNFSD source comes with PCNFSD. I believe there are several ports (Sun, Beame and Whiteside) lying around already. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 10:36:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA22727 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:36:21 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA22714 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:36:10 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA15364; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:32:18 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510121732.KAA15364@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Disk utility woes To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:32:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120602.XAA19538@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 11, 95 11:02:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 908 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I enjoy using FreeBSD, but when it comes to partitioning and labeling > (or whatever in the hell BSD calls it), it just plain sucks. I'm > really getting tired of struggling with these utilities when fdisk and > newfs used to work just fine for the majority of us. Now, I get to duke > it out with a crippled fdisk and this disklabel thing (which I have yet > to figure out). No, reading the manpage and the FAQ on the WEB did not > help. I agree, but that's not your problem. There is work being done on devfs and utilities to make this go away. Your problem seems to be that you are using a SCSI->ESDI converter on an old ESDI drive and it isn't acting like a real SCSI device should. It might be the LUN code; I seem to rememebr options in LINT for this. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 11:12:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA23952 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:12:51 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA23947 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:12:49 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA04881; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:10:18 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:10:17 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean " To: David Brockus cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Mailing Lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, David Brockus wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was interested in setting up a way to have > someone email a single address, such as comments@cyberhall.com, then have Sure!!! > that original message distributed to the email addresses of people that I > haved defined. I was wondering if there is a way to send email to a group id > and have the members of that group id receive the letter. I was also > considering setting up a mailing list, but I am not certain what is involved Edit the /etc/aliases file as follows: comments: joey,bob,sam,tim,mary,linda Then type in "newaliases" which will "make" your aliases file work. At that time, when you send a email message to comments@yourhost, joey, bob, sam,tim,etc... will get it. Also you can read the man pages for aliases for more info!!! > in configuring it. Could some please assist me? Thanks. > > > David > > > Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 11:16:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA24076 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:16:57 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24067 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:16:54 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA04897; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:14:29 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:14:29 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean " To: Howland Jared Agnew cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting dos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Howland Jared Agnew wrote: > If you could please write me and tell me how to mount my msdos > partition. I have read the faq and the man pages and still cant get it > to work. Thanks in advance. > H. Jared Agnew > ES > You need to do a few small things. 1) Find out what drive, and partition your MSDOS drive is on. 2) Find out what /dev entry cooresponds to that partition. for example /dev/sd0s1 is mine (first partition, first drive on a SCSI interface card. 3) make /dev/????? readable & writable by everyone. i.e. chmod 777 /dev/sd????? (or wd?????) 4) Then it should mount!!! like this: cd / mkdir dos mount_msdos /dev/????? /dos Presto!!! Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 11:19:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA24161 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:19:42 -0700 Received: from smokey.ee.washington.edu (smokey.ee.washington.edu [128.95.75.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24156 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:19:39 -0700 Received: (from olsenc@localhost) by smokey.ee.washington.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01059; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:19:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:19:36 -0700 From: Clint Olsen Message-Id: <199510121819.LAA01059@smokey.ee.washington.edu> To: davison@borland.com Subject: trn dumps core when shelling out Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello: I've used trn-3.6 on a couple of platforms, but something weird is going on with FreeBSD 2.0.5. This has happened at least twice. If I try to shell out to run elm, trn occasionally dumps core. -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 11:52:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA25134 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:52:49 -0700 Received: from purcell.jlc.net (jason@purcell.jlc.net [199.201.159.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA25129 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 11:52:47 -0700 Received: by purcell.jlc.net (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA09535; Thu, 12 Oct 95 14:53:06 -0400 From: "Jason T. Nelson" Message-Id: <9510121853.AA09535@purcell.jlc.net> Subject: can 2.0.1 mount NEXTSTEP disks? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:53:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 318 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We're in the process of moving our news server from one machine running NEXTSTEP 3.2 to a second faster machine running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was hoping I could mount the NEXTSTEP disk because it's a 4.3 filesystem, but I've been unsuccessful so far. Can it be done? If not, why not? -- Jason T. Nelson From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 12:23:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA25737 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:23:29 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA25731 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:23:05 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA02083; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:20:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199510121920.MAA02083@everest> Subject: Re: trn dumps core when shelling out To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: davison@borland.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510121819.LAA01059@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 12, 95 11:19:36 am Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 306 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I've used trn-3.6 on a couple of platforms, but something weird is > going on with FreeBSD 2.0.5. This has happened at least twice. If > I try to shell out to run elm, trn occasionally dumps core. For what it's worth, it happens here too with the trn-3.6 built out of the ports collection on 2.0.5. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 12:52:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA26576 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:52:41 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA26571 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:52:40 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA05671; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:52:23 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510121952.MAA05671@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: can 2.0.1 mount NEXTSTEP disks? To: jason@purcell.jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9510121853.AA09535@purcell.jlc.net> from "Jason T. Nelson" at Oct 12, 95 02:53:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 434 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk what does fdisk say about it? it probably doesn't know how to divide up a next-step slice.. > > We're in the process of moving our news server from one machine running > NEXTSTEP 3.2 to a second faster machine running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was > hoping I could mount the NEXTSTEP disk because it's a 4.3 filesystem, but > I've been unsuccessful so far. Can it be done? If not, why not? > > -- > Jason T. Nelson > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 12:58:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA26658 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:58:21 -0700 Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA26653 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:58:20 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA23031; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:02:27 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199510122002.NAA23031@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Cyclades driver for FreeBSD To: sklindsa@io.org (Scott Lindsay) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Scott Lindsay" at Oct 12, 95 02:07:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1164 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Brian, > > I run a FreeBSD server at work and purchased a multi-port board > from Cyclades (foolishly believing their sales people when they > said that FreeBSD was supported). Since the driver supplied with > FreeBSD 2.0.5 is bogus, I called for tech support. After several > promises of a new driver, I was given your name and it was suggested > that I contact you directly. > That said, what is the state of the driver? Is it stable enough > to be used in a Beta environment? Are you working on it? The driver supplied in FreeBSD (cy) IMHO and others doesn't work too well. I've made available a seperate driver (cyb) which is a complete production quality driver in use by many people including several ISPs, and has been production quality for over a year now. You can ftp it from: ftp://ftp.mediacity.com/pub/brian/cyb2.0fb.shar.gz You'll need to remember two things to use this driver: 1. Reverse pins 4 and 20 in your cables. Cyclades got them backwards in their designs. 2. use mgetty instead of getty with modems. Good Luck, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 13:30:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA27390 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:30:10 -0700 Received: from vhf.dataradio.com (G496.InterLink.NET [198.168.61.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27359 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:29:54 -0700 Received: from dri.UUCP (udri@localhost) by vhf.dataradio.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with UUCP id QAA20306 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:23:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199510122023.QAA20306@vhf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.4a); Thu 12 Oct 1995 16:22:48 EDT From: "Andrew Webster" Organization: Dataradio Inc. To: Terry Lambert Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:22:36 -0500 Subject: Re: PCNFS CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > From: Terry Lambert > Subject: Re: PCNFS > To: hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk (David Hedley) > Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 10:27:35 -0700 (MST) > Copies to: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Has anybody managed to get a PC running PCNFS (5.x) to mount a directory on > > a FreeBSD host using the standard nfsd/mountd combination? I can't get it > > to work at all. In the end I have resorted to compiling the user-space nfs > > server code that Linux uses and this seems to work OK (although directories > > with more than 20 files seem to screw it up badly). > > PCNFS required PCNFSD or PCNFSD functionality. > > On Linux, the functionality is "almost there" (as you found out) in the > user space daemon. > > On BSD, you *must* run the PCNFSD. > > Luckily PCNFSD source comes with PCNFSD. > > > I believe there are several ports (Sun, Beame and Whiteside) lying around > already. > A couple of things that one should be aware of that left me banging my head on the wall for a few days. Perhaps these can make it into the nice hypertext manual that is being put together on freebsd.org. You MUST run mountd with the -n option so that it will correctly honour mount requests from PCNFSD. You should also add the -alldirs option to lines in your /etc/exports files so that you can arbitrarily mount any directories below the file system you chose to export. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 13:57:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA28377 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:57:27 -0700 Received: from escape.com (escape.com [198.6.71.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28359 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 13:57:22 -0700 Received: (from dima@localhost) by escape.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA29293; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:42:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dima (ELO)" To: questions@freebsd.org cc: support@freebsd.org Subject: problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length I have 2 SCSI Hard Drives sd0 (which is not mounted) and sd1 (where Freebsd is located). It's 2 Gig , and partisioned as 500Mb for FreeBSD and 1500Mb for Dos From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:17:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA29169 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:17:25 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29163 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:17:20 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA03809; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:17:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199510122117.OAA03809@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Dima (ELO)" cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:42:06 EDT." Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:17:04 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: > >mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length > >I have 2 SCSI Hard Drives sd0 (which is not mounted) and sd1 (where >Freebsd is located). It's 2 Gig , and partisioned as 500Mb for FreeBSD >and 1500Mb for Dos Our msdosfs is broken for filesystems > ~500MB in my experience. Its just another thing that needs to be fixed in msdosfs. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:24:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA29474 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:24:11 -0700 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA29469 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:24:07 -0700 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com by gemsgw.med.ge.com (4.1/GEMS-1.1) id AA06043; Thu, 12 Oct 95 16:26:05 CDT Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw [3.28.124.2]) by gemed.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA10851 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:22:26 -0500 Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28186; Thu, 12 Oct 95 16:24:09 CDT From: laufen@sol.med.ge.com (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA18200; Thu, 12 Oct 95 16:24:07 CDT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 16:24:07 CDT Message-Id: <9510122124.AA18200@merak.med.ge.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory required 4M or 8M Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Julian said: > 2.0.5 required 4M > 2.1 will run on 4M but the install floppy will require 5M :( > > (beta works with 4M but fails for some people..) > Hmmm. I tried to install 2.05 on three different machines each with only 4M and the install fails. I never see the "Uncompressing kernel" message. I added 4M of memory to the machines and did the install just fine. I was using the boot.flp that is on the 2.05 CD-ROM for these installs. Didier said: >I think that to apreciate the power of FreeBSD >16Mb is a minimum >(I have 24 Mb) >-- >Didier Derny >didier@aida.org I agree. I use 16 & 20 for my machines. This box I was trying to do the install on will never see X or very much use. Its just being used as "glue" between an ultrasound machine and the rest of the network. Derek Laufenberg GE-Ultrasound laufen@sol.med.ge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:28:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA29613 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:28:15 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29606 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:28:11 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA11731 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:26:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA01386 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:16:01 +0100 To: "Dima (ELO)" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:42:06 EDT." Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:16:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1384.813532560@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Dima (ELO)" stands accused of writing in message ID : >Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: >mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length It's not an error, it's a warning. The mount of your MSDOS filesystem still suceeds. I think that the text should be changed (or deleted) to make it more clear that it is a WARNING and does NOT indicate failure... Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:39:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA00268 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:39:00 -0700 Received: from netserv1.free.net (netserv1.free.net [147.45.15.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00246 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:38:42 -0700 Received: from cc.nifhi.ac.ru by netserv1.free.net (8.6.12/6) with ESMTP id AAA27651 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:38:10 +0300 Received: from hsh.nifhi.ac.ru (hsh [193.233.8.99]) by cc.nifhi.ac.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA12044; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:45:17 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:45:17 GMT Message-Id: <199510130045.AAA12044@cc.nifhi.ac.ru> X-Sender: boss@cc.nifhi.ac.ru X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: boss@cc.nifhi.ac.ru (Igor Maslennikov) Subject: Where is Imake.tmpl? Cc: masl@cc.nifhi.ac.ru Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, All! I'm currently running a FreeBSD 2.0.5 on a 486DX4 and it works fine, but I have a problem. When I getting to install any package whith Imakefile - I always get the error: Imake.tmpl not found. Where and how can I find (or make) it? I have imake itself, but have not Imake.tmpl, Imake.rules and so on. There is no answer in "man imake". Thanks for your help, Igor ---- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:46:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA00648 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:46:14 -0700 Received: from starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00637 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:46:03 -0700 From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.11/1.1) id QAA24214 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:45:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199510122145.QAA24214@starfire.mn.org> Subject: psuedo user setup To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:45:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 494 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think I asked this several weeks ago, but never got an answer... Is there a way to set up an account such that it can be su'ed to but not logged in under (sort of like lacking "secure" does for root, but by any means). I would like to be able to set up some psuedo users for some specific projects, but still force people to log in as themsevles so I can really see who is on. John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:49:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA00805 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:49:10 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00796 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:49:04 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA03957; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:46:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199510122146.OAA03957@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Gary Palmer cc: "Dima (ELO)" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:16:00 BST." <1384.813532560@palmer.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:46:37 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >"Dima (ELO)" stands accused of writing in message ID >: >>Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: > >>mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length > >It's not an error, it's a warning. The mount of your MSDOS filesystem >still suceeds. I think that the text should be changed (or deleted) to >make it more clear that it is a WARNING and does NOT indicate >failure... > >Gary Well, if you thought the corruption was bad when you don't see this message, you haven't seen anything yet! Its much worse on large drives. I'd rather fix the bug then chage the error message. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:51:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA00878 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:51:39 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00873 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:51:31 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id RAA03577; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:38:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Dropping off mailing lists To: Thomas David Rivers cc: panix.com!jbrann@dg-rtp.dg.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510121225.IAA05949@lakes> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > I suffer from this every-now-and-then, but it is always associated > with a mail problem between me an freebsd.org. When mail bounces back > to Majordomo; it removes you from the mailing list to prevent a ^^^^ EXCUSE ME! I am not an 'it'. I am not 'Cousin It'. PLEASE, dont call me "it", cause "it" dont fit. really ;^) jmb ps. i unsubscribe people that bounce too much mail in a day. > mail flood. > > So, if you have a problem with an intermediate site bouncing mail, > you'll experience this. > yep, and you can bet one "it" > You just need to be aware that it's happened, and get back on the lists > when your mail is working again. it is important to know when your mail is working. ;) Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 14:59:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA01202 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:59:17 -0700 Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA01190 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:59:08 -0700 Received: by main.statsci.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0t3Ve1-000r3xC; Thu, 12 Oct 95 14:58 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "Dima (ELO)" , questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:17:04 -0700." <199510122117.OAA03809@aslan.cdrom.com> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:58:26 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: > Our msdosfs is broken for filesystems > ~500MB in my experience. Its > just another thing that needs to be fixed in msdosfs. And in my experience (read: one system), it is broken, period. Are you talking of _disks_ > ~500Mb or _filesystems_? When I messed with msdosfs on my system (a 1Gb IDE disk & a 1.4Gb SCSI disk on a 2.0.5R installed from CD) I ended up getting corrupted BSD partitions for my trouble - even when I only mounted the msdos slices read-only. And I don't have any slices or filesystems that are that big. The system works great now that I don't get anywhere near the msdos slices. I CAN just use the mtools package to get at my msdos disks anyways - not as convenient, but it does seem to work. I would LOVE to hear that things have been fixed up in later releases...I might even try it once I get good backups and a recovery plan thought out... Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 15:01:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA01366 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:01:17 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA01357 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:01:10 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04005; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:00:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199510122200.PAA04005@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: scott@statsci.com cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , "Dima (ELO)" , questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:58:26 PDT." Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:00:44 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >"Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: > >> Our msdosfs is broken for filesystems > ~500MB in my experience. Its >> just another thing that needs to be fixed in msdosfs. Filesystems > 500MB. >Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. > 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 >scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 >Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 15:02:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA01440 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:02:32 -0700 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA01434 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:02:28 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04040; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:02:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199510122202.PAA04040@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: john@starfire.mn.org cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Subject: Re: psuedo user setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:45:51 CDT." <199510122145.QAA24214@starfire.mn.org> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:02:08 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I think I asked this several weeks ago, but never got an answer... > >Is there a way to set up an account such that it can be su'ed to >but not logged in under (sort of like lacking "secure" does for >root, but by any means). I would like to be able to set up some >psuedo users for some specific projects, but still force people to >log in as themsevles so I can really see who is on. Give the user a bogus shell. Then, people will only be able to access that account via "su -m". > John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services >E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 15:23:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA02016 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:23:58 -0700 Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA02011 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:23:52 -0700 Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA27829 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:23:38 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 13 Oct 95 08:24:08 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 13 Oct 95 08:23:42 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:23:38 -1000 Subject: load balancing ppp Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <4F9EC7D65A1@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am running 2.0.5R on a DX4 100 APTIVA with 16mb as a httpd proxy server & ip gateway in a school. Our connection to the net is across a ppp line on a netcom M11F. At the moment only staff have access to the net, so load levels are OK. Next year we will allow student access so there will be a potential for about 100 concurrent users. If I just add another ppp interface & modem to our ISP will freebsd perform some sort of load balancing between the two? I know that this won't be enough for 100 net-mad school kids, but it would be better! Does anyone have any other options? ISDN is VERY expensive here in Australia, thousands of dollars per month, and more than we can afford. Thanks in advance, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61 07 3379 9911, fax +61 07 3379 9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 15:50:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA02898 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:50:54 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA02893 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:50:52 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA12347 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:48:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA01539 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:46:50 +0100 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "Dima (ELO)" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:46:37 PDT." <199510122146.OAA03957@aslan.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:46:50 +0100 Message-ID: <1537.813538010@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Justin T. Gibbs" stands accused of writing in message ID <199510122146.OAA03957@aslan.cdrom.com>: >Well, if you thought the corruption was bad when you don't see this >message, you haven't seen anything yet! Its much worse on large drives. >I'd rather fix the bug then chage the error message. It produces the warning for 800k 3.5" floppies also (yes, I know, they are sad :-) ). I have yet to see corruption on floppies, although if the warning has some merit for >>500Mb FS's then it should probably stay. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 16:05:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA03365 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:05:09 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03360 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:05:06 -0700 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA03245; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:06:56 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199510121906.PAA03245@hda.com> Subject: Re: More info on disk woes To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510121723.KAA15319@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 12, 95 10:23:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 653 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > No sense sent. > > EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 > > Do you think the fact that this SCSI disk claims to be an ESDI disk > might have something to do with your problem? It is an ESDI drive connected through a SCSI to ESDI adapter. It is kind of surprising that it shows up as an "unknown unknown" and not an EMULEX MD21/S2. Something must be hiccupping during the initial probe to cause the existing attach routine to be unhappy. I'm not surprised there are quirks, though. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 16:16:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA03751 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:16:09 -0700 Received: from iconz.co.nz (iconz.co.nz [202.14.100.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03746 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:16:04 -0700 Received: from status.gen.nz (status.gen.nz [202.14.100.1]) by iconz.co.nz (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA24141 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:15:51 +1300 Received: by status.gen.nz (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id MAA29922; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:15:09 +1300 Received: from totara.pinnacle.co.nz (totara.pinnacle.co.nz [202.37.163.15]) by kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA19350 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:34:43 +1300 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:34:43 +1300 Message-Id: <199510122234.LAA19350@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> X-Sender: cam@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Cam Mander-Merrilees Subject: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We have an OLD Altos 386 with : 8 MB RAM 60MB QIC Streaming Tape drive (ESDI ?) 1.2 MB 5.25" Floppy disk drive (ESDI ?) Ethernet Card 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive We have FreeBSD 2.0.5 and would like to run this on the above machine. Is there any way we can install FreeBSD on this machine since it does not have a 3.5" Floppy drive ?? We have a number of PC's connected on our TCP/IP network which have 3.5" Floppy drives... We have a number of Unix (different flavours) on the network also... Is this possible ??? Thanks in advance Campbell Mander-Merrilees e-mail : cam@pinnacle.co.nz Analyst / Programmer Voice : +64.9.489.7020 Pinnacle Software Fax : +64.9.489.7040 Auckland, NZ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 16:18:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA03882 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:18:12 -0700 Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA03877 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:18:10 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26647; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id TAA19056; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: john@starfire.mn.org cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: psuedo user setup In-Reply-To: <199510122145.QAA24214@starfire.mn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Oct 1995 john@starfire.mn.org wrote: > I think I asked this several weeks ago, but never got an answer... > > Is there a way to set up an account such that it can be su'ed to > but not logged in under (sort of like lacking "secure" does for > root, but by any means). I would like to be able to set up some > psuedo users for some specific projects, but still force people to > log in as themsevles so I can really see who is on. > I haven't tried this myself, but what about a user with a .cshrc that logs back out (perhaps with a worning message) ? You could still get into this user's stuff by doing an su -c (preventing reading the user's .cshrc file). > John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services > E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 17:03:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA05256 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:03:06 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA05251 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:03:01 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id TAA06940; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:50:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:50:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Mailing Lists To: David Brockus cc: FreeBSD questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, David Brockus wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was interested in setting up a way to have > someone email a single address, such as comments@cyberhall.com, then have > that original message distributed to the email addresses of people that I > haved defined. I was wondering if there is a way to send email to a group id > and have the members of that group id receive the letter. I was also > considering setting up a mailing list, but I am not certain what is involved > in configuring it. Could some please assist me? Thanks. to reach everyone on your system create a mail alias that includes everyone, dont bother with mailing list software. for an address list that has less to 20 people at other internet sites, use an alias again. otherwise consider using majordomo (madge says "you're soaking in it now"). FreeBSD.org uses majordomo for all its mailing lists. you can use this perl script to send mail to everyone on a particular host: #!/usr/bin/perl # # collect a mail message from STDIN # edit headers # send it out to everyone on this machine # # # set these to match your system # $debug = 0; $mailcmd = "/usr/bin/mail"; # # list all your non-user accounts here # %daemons = ( "root", 1, "toor", 1, "daemon", 1, "operator", 1, "bin", 1, "games", 1, "man", 1, "uucp", 1, "ingres", 1, "falcon", 1, "nobody", 1 ); # # collect the list of people # to receive the mail message # while ( $user = getpwent ) { (! $daemons{$user} ) && $targets .= " $user"; } # # collect the headers # junk lines that we dont need or want # while ( ) { last if ( /^$/o ); # end of headers next if ( /^Received: /o ); # remove these next if ( /^From /o ); # remove this line if ( ( $key, $value ) = ( /^(\S+):\s*(.*)/ ) ) { ; } $header{$key} = $value; } if ( $debug ) { open( OUT, "> /tmp/mailcatcher.$$") || die("$0 can't open output file"); foreach $key ( sort keys(%header) ) { print OUT "$key = $header{$key}\n" ; } } open( MAIL, "| /usr/bin/mail -s \"$header{'Subject'}\" jmb"); # # do the real work # while ( ) { $debug && print OUT; print MAIL; } Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 17:04:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA05316 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:04:21 -0700 Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu (PO2.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA05307 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:04:17 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA05029 for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:04:08 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:03:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Jason White To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: PCI Ethernet cards Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What PCI Ethernet cards are supported by FreeBSD 2.0.5R? I looked at LINT and am still not positive. Thanks, -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 17:18:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA05757 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:18:49 -0700 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (root@vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA05742 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:18:36 -0700 Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.ampr.org [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id TAA25052 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:18:25 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:18:25 -0500 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Nx586 and FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm contemplating the purchase of an Nx586 PCI motherboard. Has anyone tried such an animal under FreeBSD? (surely somebody has). Any problems? Did it live up to expectations? Are the claims to be of Pentium speed, or a bit more, rational? I realize the Nx586 lacks FPU and NexGen does not claim to be comparable doing floating point. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 17:27:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA06110 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:27:12 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA06105 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:27:07 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA06206; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:26:20 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: cam@pinnacle.co.nz (Cam Mander-Merrilees) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 17:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510122234.LAA19350@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> from "Cam Mander-Merrilees" at Oct 13, 95 11:34:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1024 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The install floppies files are 1.2MB long exactly so that they can fit on a 1.2MB floppy disk. > > We have an OLD Altos 386 with : > 8 MB RAM > 60MB QIC Streaming Tape drive (ESDI ?) > 1.2 MB 5.25" Floppy disk drive > Ethernet Card what kind? > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > > We have FreeBSD 2.0.5 and would like to run this on the above machine. Is > there any way we can install FreeBSD on this machine since it does not have > a 3.5" Floppy drive ?? We have a number of PC's connected on our TCP/IP > network which have 3.5" Floppy drives... We have a number of Unix (different > flavours) on the network also... > > Is this possible ??? I would expect it to work.. the disk will be very tight. you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' > > Thanks in advance > Campbell Mander-Merrilees e-mail : cam@pinnacle.co.nz > Analyst / Programmer Voice : +64.9.489.7020 > Pinnacle Software Fax : +64.9.489.7040 > Auckland, NZ > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:00:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07425 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:00:28 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07418 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:00:24 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id UAA08290; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:48:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:47:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: CORRECTION to perl script To: David Brockus cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk earlier today i posted a perl script that forwards mail to all users on a host. i erred in that script. (see jordan, it is catching) open( MAIL, "| /usr/bin/mail -s \"$header{'Subject'}\" jmb ); should have been open( MAIL, "| /usr/bin/mail -s \"$header{'Subject'}\" $targets"); add to /etc/aliases: everyone: "| /usr/local/bin/mail.everyone" [B or whereever you have placed the script here is another copy of the corrected script: #!/usr/bin/perl # # collect a mail message from STDIN # edit headers # send it out to everyone on this machine # # # set these to match your system # $debug = 0; $mailcmd = "/usr/bin/mail"; # # list all your non-user accounts here # %daemons = ( "root", 1, "toor", 1, "daemon", 1, "operator", 1, "bin", 1, "games", 1, "man", 1, "uucp", 1, "ingres", 1, "falcon", 1, "nobody", 1 ); # # collect the list of people # to receive the mail message # while ( $user = getpwent ) { (! $daemons{$user} ) && $targets .= " $user"; } # # collect the headers # junk lines that we dont need or want # while ( ) { last if ( /^$/o ); # end of headers next if ( /^Received: /o ); # remove these next if ( /^From /o ); # remove this line if ( ( $key, $value ) = ( /^(\S+):\s*(.*)/ ) ) { ; } $header{$key} = $value; } if ( $debug ) { open( OUT, "> /tmp/mailcatcher.$$") || die("$0 can't open output file"); foreach $key ( sort keys(%header) ) { print OUT "$key = $header{$key}\n" ; } } open( MAIL, "| /usr/bin/mail -s \"$header{'Subject'}\" $targets"); # # do the real work # while ( ) { $debug && print OUT; print MAIL; } Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:06:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07620 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:06:57 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07603 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:06:50 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA17996; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:04:19 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510130134.LAA17996@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: More info on disk woes To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:04:18 +0930 (CST) Cc: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510121723.KAA15319@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Oct 12, 95 10:23:51 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 995 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > No sense sent. > > EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 > > Do you think the fact that this SCSI disk claims to be an ESDI disk > might have something to do with your problem? This "scsi disk" is an Emulex MD21 talking to an ESDI disk. Commit chainsaw surgery on a Sun shoebox and you'll comprehend. Normally, the MD21 extracts the vendor information from the ESDI disk, and reports that in its identify string. - At least, this is the observed behaviour in the only environment I'm forced to use these controllers. The MD21 is _old_ and _crufty_. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:15:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07834 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:15:08 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07828 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:15:06 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16381; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:11:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510130111.SAA16381@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: can 2.0.1 mount NEXTSTEP disks? To: jason@purcell.jlc.net (Jason T. Nelson) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:11:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9510121853.AA09535@purcell.jlc.net> from "Jason T. Nelson" at Oct 12, 95 02:53:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1615 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > We're in the process of moving our news server from one machine running > NEXTSTEP 3.2 to a second faster machine running FreeBSD 2.0.5. I was > hoping I could mount the NEXTSTEP disk because it's a 4.3 filesystem, but > I've been unsuccessful so far. Can it be done? If not, why not? Probably it is using Motorolla instead of Intel byte order. It may have a different superblock layout. It make handle "immediate files" and "immediate links" differently. You could probably hack a working read-only mount is 12-16 hours if you had NeXT's FS specific header files and were an FS hacker. This might make it a derivative work. It would take longer to reverse engineer. Depending on the way the disk partitioning functions, you may end up needing additional work. In the near future (month or so), logical volume presentation will find itself rather machine independent and totally software driven. At which time hacking that would take about 2-3 hours (assuming you put the disk on a BSD box and had NeXT's header files once again). By default, it won't be mountable without: 1) A BSD device that refers to their idea of where a slice should start on a disk. 2) Probably byte order checking and independence in the FS code you plan to use (for performance reasons, this should be a seperate FS from the FFS/UFS code). 3) Probable superblock differences and other minor layout changes here and there (these should be discernable from their header files). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:17:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA07959 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:17:29 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA07953 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:17:27 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16398; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:13:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510130113.SAA16398@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: problem To: dima@escape.com (Dima) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:13:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dima" at Oct 12, 95 04:42:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 588 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: > > mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length > > I have 2 SCSI Hard Drives sd0 (which is not mounted) and sd1 (where > Freebsd is located). It's 2 Gig , and partisioned as 500Mb for FreeBSD > and 1500Mb for Dos This is a warning message. This happens when you use parted or some other utility to shorten the DOS parition size without reformatting the drive. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:20:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08053 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:20:05 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08048 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:20:02 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16419; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:16:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510130116.SAA16419@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: problem To: scott@statsci.com Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:16:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org, dima@escape.com, questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Scott Blachowicz" at Oct 12, 95 02:58:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1111 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > And in my experience (read: one system), it is broken, period. Are you talking > of _disks_ > ~500Mb or _filesystems_? When I messed with msdosfs on my system > (a 1Gb IDE disk & a 1.4Gb SCSI disk on a 2.0.5R installed from CD) I ended up > getting corrupted BSD partitions for my trouble - even when I only mounted the > msdos slices read-only. And I don't have any slices or filesystems that are > that big. > > The system works great now that I don't get anywhere near the msdos slices. I > CAN just use the mtools package to get at my msdos disks anyways - not as > convenient, but it does seem to work. > > I would LOVE to hear that things have been fixed up in later releases...I > might even try it once I get good backups and a recovery plan thought out... It would help diagnose the problem to make page 0 inaccessable in kernel mode to cause a kernel fault. This would probably fail on pre-486 because of the failure to honor the WP bit in protected mode. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:22:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08128 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:22:41 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08123 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:22:39 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16438; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:18:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510130118.SAA16438@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:18:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: cam@pinnacle.co.nz, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at Oct 12, 95 05:26:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 761 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [ ... old Altos box, probably an 886? ... ] > > We have FreeBSD 2.0.5 and would like to run this on the above machine. Is > > there any way we can install FreeBSD on this machine since it does not have > > a 3.5" Floppy drive ?? We have a number of PC's connected on our TCP/IP > > network which have 3.5" Floppy drives... We have a number of Unix > > (different > > flavours) on the network also... > > > > Is this possible ??? > I would expect it to work.. > the disk will be very tight. > you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' If this in't a 1000 or 2000, I'd expect it to fail to recognize the bus. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:26:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA08210 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:26:44 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08205 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:26:42 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA16457; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:21:04 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510130121.SAA16457@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: More info on disk woes To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:21:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510130134.LAA17996@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Oct 13, 95 11:04:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 970 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00 > > > > Do you think the fact that this SCSI disk claims to be an ESDI disk > > might have something to do with your problem? > > This "scsi disk" is an Emulex MD21 talking to an ESDI disk. Commit > chainsaw surgery on a Sun shoebox and you'll comprehend. > > Normally, the MD21 extracts the vendor information from the ESDI disk, and > reports that in its identify string. - At least, this is the observed > behaviour in the only environment I'm forced to use these controllers. > > The MD21 is _old_ and _crufty_. Turn of sync mode negotiation and try again. Other than that, you are doomed to talk to the SCSI experts until you say something which is to you meaningless, but to which they respond "You should have told me that to start with... here are the locations to solder...". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 18:44:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA09021 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:44:27 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (root@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA09016 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:44:24 -0700 Received: from snoopy.vpm.com by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA01261; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:43:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199510130143.SAA01261@netcom7.netcom.com> X-Sender: mcstout@netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:41:08 -0700 To: FreeBSD Questions From: Mark Stout Subject: 2.1.0-Stable, When? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, When is 2.1.0-stable supposed to be released? The FAQ says in Oct. 95, but reflects no date as to when in Oct. Thanks, Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Commercial Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 19:19:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA09808 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:19:41 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA09801 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:19:35 -0700 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA03714; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:21:45 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199510122221.SAA03714@hda.com> Subject: Re: More info on disk woes To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510120633.XAA19754@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 11, 95 11:33:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1934 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Data in (64 of 64): > 00 00 00: The device might or might not comply to a standard. 01: Product designed prior to the SCSI-II and not SCSI-I 1f: Additional length 12 00: Reserved 00: Flags Vendor: 45 4d 55 4c 45 58 20 20 # ........EMULEX Product ID: > 4d 44 32 31 2f 53 32 20 20 20 20 20 45 53 44 49 # MD21/S2 ESDI Product revision: > 41 30 30 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 # A00 ............ > I am still not sure why the boot code cannot INQUIRE to my disks: > > % dmesg | grep aic > > aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 11 on isa > aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (aic0:1:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 > sd0(aic0:1:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) > (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 > sd1(aic0:2:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640500 512 byte sectors) Our probe code doesn't like that this doesn't claim to meet any standard, and prints out "unknown" and "unknown". That should be changed to try and print out the fields: If it had garbage I'd just as soon see > (aic0:2:0): "?-kdad??? ?03? &13 ?" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 as > (aic0:2:0): "unknown unknown ????" type 0 fixed SCSI 0 It seems to have gotten the right size for the disk. (It seems like it might be the matching ESDI CDC drive). Try booting with the verbose (-v) flag and verify that it is reading the disk geometry back OK. > So, scsi(8) works, but the driver is not talking to one of my drives > properly. Don't read much into that "unknown unknown" - it is a quick fix to have it print out EMULEX MD21 etc, so just ignore that for now. Once you've probed it what happens when you try to read the raw device? You can turn debugging on by compiling with SCSIDEBUG and then setting the debug level on the drive using "-d". -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 20:08:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA11566 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:08:54 -0700 Received: from owlnet.rice.edu (owlnet.rice.edu [128.42.49.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA11561 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:08:51 -0700 Received: from long-eared.owlnet.rice.edu by owlnet.rice.edu (WAA19655); Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:08:50 -0500 (CDT) From: fgray@owlnet.rice.edu (Frederick Earl Gray) Received: (from fgray@localhost) by long-eared.owlnet.rice.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA17910; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:08:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199510130308.WAA17910@long-eared.owlnet.rice.edu> Subject: 3Com 3c590 Ethernet driver for FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org, announce@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:08:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk --- 3Com 3c590 Ethernet driver for FreeBSD --- I have written a driver for the 3Com 3c590 PCI-based Ethernet adapter. It is based heavily on the existing EtherLink III driver (if_ep.c) by Herb Peyerl, Andres Vega Garcia, Serge Babkin, et al. This driver should be suitable as a basis for supporting the Fast EtherLink 100Mbps cards; the transciever detection logic needs to be extended to include the new transceivers. This driver does not take advantage of the bus-mastering features of the card. I will likely not have time in the near future to remedy the situation. As usual, this software is supplied with no warranties. My modifications to the code are in the public domain; I request but do not require that you leave my name in the files. To use this driver, you need to have the kernel source code available. You need to download the files if_vx.c and if_vxreg.h into your /usr/src/sys/pci directory, add the line pci/if_vx.c optional vx device-driver somewhere in the file /usr/src/sys/conf/files, add the line device vx0 at pci0 port? irq? vector vxintr to your kernel configuration file, and rebuild your kernel. These files may be obtained from my Web page at http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~fgray/if_vx.html I welcome your comments and suggestions. By the way, I have added a GlobalReset command to the attach sequence for the driver, which should fix the main bug reported for the if_ep.c driver. -- Fred Gray -- fgray@owlnet.rice.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 20:17:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA11991 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:17:37 -0700 Received: from theriver.com (root@pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA11977 ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:17:32 -0700 Received: from GouverneuR (dial0.P2.theriver.com) by theriver.com with SMTP id AA27119 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:26:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:26:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199510130326.AA27119@theriver.com> X-Sender: GouverneuR@theriver.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: majordomo@freebsd.org From: Gouverneur Morris Subject: re:no-more Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe questions-freebsd GouverneuR@pantano From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 21:11:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA13888 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:11:56 -0700 Received: from zonk.geko.com.au (zonk.geko.com.au [203.2.239.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA13829 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:10:28 -0700 Received: from zappa.arksoft.com.au ([203.17.14.69]) by zonk.geko.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA27072; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:06:47 +1000 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:06:47 +1000 Message-Id: <199510130406.OAA27072@zonk.geko.com.au> X-Sender: arksoft@203.2.239.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andrew Khoo - ArkSoft Systems Subject: Re: load balancing ppp Cc: "Peter Stubbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 08:23 13/10/95 -1000, Peter Stubbs wrote: >I am running 2.0.5R on a DX4 100 APTIVA with 16mb as a httpd proxy >server & ip gateway in a school. Our connection to the net is across >a ppp line on a netcom M11F. At the moment only staff have access to >the net, so load levels are OK. Next year we will allow student >access so there will be a potential for about 100 concurrent users. >If I just add another ppp interface & modem to our ISP will freebsd >perform some sort of load balancing between the two? I know that >this won't be enough for 100 net-mad school kids, but it would be >better! You should be talking to your ISP about using as Ascend Pipeline 50 over ISDN or something similar (read low-cost). You should be able to get an Ascend Pipeline for approximately A$2,500. >Does anyone have any other options? ISDN is VERY expensive here in >Australia, thousands of dollars per month, and more than we can >afford. Not really if you start doing the figures. The current cost for a BRI installation by Telstra is A$360 and the annual "line rental" cost is A$912. If both you and your ISP fall within zone 1 of the ISDN tariffing (i.e. within 25km of each other I think) the cost of a semi-permanent connection (virtually 64K fulltime) is approximately A$2,150 per year. IMHO infinitely better than using a M11F :) I don't work for Telstra :). I just quote these figures to my clients on a near daily basis . From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 21:51:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA14533 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:51:16 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA14506 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:50:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA02587 ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:49:25 +0100 To: Igor Maslennikov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, masl@cc.nifhi.ac.ru Subject: Re: Where is Imake.tmpl? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:45:17 GMT." <199510130045.AAA12044@cc.nifhi.ac.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:49:24 +0100 Message-ID: <2585.813559764@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Igor Maslennikov stands accused of writing in message ID <199510130045.AAA12044@cc.nifhi.ac.ru>: >I'm currently running a FreeBSD 2.0.5 on a 486DX4 and it works fine, >but I have a problem. When I getting to install any package whith >Imakefile - I always get the error: Imake.tmpl not found. Where and >how can I find (or make) it? I have imake itself, but have not Imake.tmpl, >Imake.rules and so on. There is no answer in "man imake". gary@palmer:~> locate Imake /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.cf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.rules /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config/Imake.tmpl gary@palmer:~> It could be you don't have the necessary X11 dist installed. I'm not sure offhand which X11R6 dist these come from. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 22:30:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA15615 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:30:54 -0700 Received: from mail.eskimo.com (root@mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA15610 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:30:52 -0700 Received: from kato.eskimo.com (jamesmw@dd46-149.compuserve.com [199.174.178.149]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA23516 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:30:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: James Wraalstad To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Keyboard locks at login prompt Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have installed the October snapshot of Freebsd via a dos partition which went very smoothly with the binaries using the defaults in the installation menus. When I reboot the machine, it boots up to the login prompt and then the keyboard freezes. Up to this point the keyboard is responsive. The screen saver works very nicely, so I assume that the OS is running. Thank you for your attention, James Wraalstad From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 22:38:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA16071 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:38:00 -0700 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA16066 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:37:53 -0700 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma003226; Fri Oct 13 14:50:50 1995 Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma006521; Fri Oct 13 14:49:45 1995 Received: from rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.252.15]) by cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA23399; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:49:44 +1000 Received: from crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (crab.ind.tansu.com.au [149.135.100.23]) by rodin.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA20541; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:49:00 +1000 Received: from kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (raoul@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au [149.135.104.48]) by crab.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA10470; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:48:57 +1000 Received: (raoul@localhost) by kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA16111; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:48:56 +1000 Message-Id: <199510130448.OAA16111@kiwi.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> Subject: Re: xcdplayer and reading the TOC To: rjs@critter.clark.net Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 14:48:56 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: raoul@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Raoul Golan) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1704 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ages ago, at the beginning of the year, Ron Steele wrote the following in freebsd-questions: > I am still trying to get a cd player to work on 2.0R. I compiled xcdplayer > (with the patches for FreeBSD) with debug and stepped through the > code with gdb to see where it is failing. The drive is opened and the > tocheader is read and the values in it look reasonable, but the ioctl to > read the toc entries fails and returns an error code which indicates that > the drive is not configured. I would really like to get this to work, but > I don't have a clue as to how to go about debugging the kernel. Any > suggestions about what might be wrong, or of a way to debug this without > having to learn more than I really want to about kernel debugging? Well, months later, now that 2.0.5 has been released, I find that this is still the case! Did you Ron, or someone else, manage to come up with a fix? The existing mcd audio driver has some problems with it: 1. the TOC entries are read incorrectly, the ioctl writes to the wrong area of memory, causing memory faults in the application 2. if the drive door is open, it is closed by the driver whenever the device is opened by a process (causing lots of problems for software like xcdplayer which open the device regularly for updates - you can't keep the door open long enough to change disks!) 3. the volume controls do not work. I've managed to fix 1. and 2., and I'm currently adding 3 (using the Linux driver as a guide). Now I find that someone else has experienced the same thing. Was there any work done on this? I'd rather not have to patch my kernel myself if there's already a patch for me out there. Thanks, Raoul From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 23:41:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA17889 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:41:57 -0700 Received: from flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA17880 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:41:49 -0700 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00211; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:44:24 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:44:22 +0000 () From: Andrew X-Sender: andrew@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MX addresses Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanks for your help in the past...everything seems to be working except for the occaision "crash" where the unix refuses connections telnet connections and all the users dissappear (where their names should be (in finger etc) there are numbers...usually 0 or 1001) and ~user paths stop working. If you have any ideas it would be nice but.... The real reason I am writing is to ask about MX addresses. I have named running with an MX address for hobart.tased.edu.au pointing at flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au. When mail is sent from a PC using flopsy as a SMTP server a message comes up on the monitor of the unix - syserr(root) MX list for hobart.tased.edu.au points back to flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au The mail ends up in roots mail box...I forward you a copy of that as well. mail addressed to user@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au works OK I'm not sure what return address will go with this but try andrew@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au Thanks, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Oct 12 23:45:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA18156 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:45:24 -0700 Received: from flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA18122 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:44:19 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00235; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:47:03 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:47:00 +0000 () From: Andrew X-Sender: root@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MX forwards (Returned mail: Local configuration error) (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="QAA00174.813602384/flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au" Content-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --QAA00174.813602384/flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: See accompanying message - from andrew@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:39:44 GMT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: fred@frog.tased.edu.au, postmaster@andrew@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au Subject: Returned mail: Local configuration error The original message was received at Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:39:43 GMT from staff.hobart.tased.edu.au [147.41.41.3] ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 MX list for hobart.tased.edu.au. points back to flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au 554 ... Local configuration error ----- Original message follows ----- --QAA00174.813602384/flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: fred@frog.tased.edu.au Received: from staff.hobart.tased.edu.au (staff.hobart.tased.edu.au [147.41.41.3]) by flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00172 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:39:43 GMT Message-Id: <199510131639.QAA00172@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 90 16:39:39 -0700 From: Student Organization: The Hobart College X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2b6 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rob@hobart.tased.edu.au Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii WOnkWonkWonk --QAA00174.813602384/flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au-- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 00:53:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA19408 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:53:55 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA19403 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 00:53:51 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA00324; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:51:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199510130751.IAA00324@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Keyboard locks at login prompt To: jamesmw@eskimo.com (James Wraalstad) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:51:17 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "James Wraalstad" at Oct 12, 95 10:32:48 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 867 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Greetings, > > I have installed the October snapshot of Freebsd via a dos partition > which went very smoothly with the binaries using the defaults > in the installation menus. > When I reboot the machine, it boots up to the login prompt and then the > keyboard freezes. Up to this point the keyboard is responsive. The > screen saver works very nicely, so I assume that the OS is running. Did you test it without the screensaver enabled? Can you ALT-F2 switch to the second (e.g.) console? I've seen the keyboard freezing one time with a 2.x kernel on my ASUS SP3G board. But it didn't happen again yet. At that time I had vidcontrol yellow blue in my /etc/rc.local Don't know if its important though. > > Thank you for your attention, > > James Wraalstad > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 01:25:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA20324 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:25:56 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA20317 ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:25:49 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA18626; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:26:32 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510130856.SAA18626@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: scsi(8) requested output here To: olsenc@smokey.ee.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:26:31 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199510121544.IAA00754@smokey.ee.washington.edu> from "Clint Olsen" at Oct 12, 95 08:44:15 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 788 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Clint Olsen stands accused of saying: > Running disklabel -e -r sd0 gives me this: > > Bad pack magic number (label is damaged, or pack is unlabeled) This has nothing to do with the MD21; you can't edit a disklabel if there isn't one there yet. You'll have to write one out first. disklabel -w -r sd0 Pick a label at random from /etc/disktab, and then use disklabel -e to correct it. > -Clint -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 01:36:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA20644 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:36:14 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA20635 ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:36:06 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA18641; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:36:35 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510130906.SAA18641@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: problem To: dima@escape.com (Dima) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:36:34 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dima" at Oct 12, 95 04:42:06 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1300 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dima stands accused of saying: > > Hello, I have a problem. When I start FreeBSD it says: > > mountmsdosfs(): root directory is not multiple of clustersize length > > I have 2 SCSI Hard Drives sd0 (which is not mounted) and sd1 (where > Freebsd is located). It's 2 Gig , and partisioned as 500Mb for FreeBSD > and 1500Mb for Dos 1.5G is a really _really_ stupid size for an MSDOS filesystem. The above message means exactly what it says : the root directory is not a multiple of the clustersize in length. The root directory on a FAT filesystem is a fixed length, and a 1.5G DOS partition has clusters 32K in size, which is _larger_ than the root directory. This is technically a violation of the FAT filesystem design, but DOS is so stupid that it doesn't notice. The msdosfs code is trying to be helpful in pointing out the problem. You don't say whether this prevents you from mounting the DOS partition. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 01:52:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id BAA21540 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:52:41 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA21535 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:52:38 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA18683; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:52:47 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510130922.SAA18683@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: cam@pinnacle.co.nz (Cam Mander-Merrilees) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:52:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510122234.LAA19350@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> from "Cam Mander-Merrilees" at Oct 13, 95 11:34:43 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 920 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Cam Mander-Merrilees stands accused of saying: > > We have an OLD Altos 386 with : > 8 MB RAM > 60MB QIC Streaming Tape drive (ESDI ?) > 1.2 MB 5.25" Floppy disk drive (ESDI ?) > Ethernet Card > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > > > Is this possible ??? Depends. Is this a PC-architecture system, or one of those revolting Altos Xenix machines? If the former, what is the ethernet card? The tape is probably QIC, and the floppy is certainly not ESDI 8) > Campbell Mander-Merrilees e-mail : cam@pinnacle.co.nz -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 02:00:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA21913 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 02:00:17 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA21888 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 02:00:12 -0700 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA00467; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:58:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199510130858.JAA00467@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: PCNFS To: hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk (David Hedley) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:58:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <10762.813496533@danno> from "David Hedley" at Oct 12, 95 12:15:33 pm From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1428 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Has anybody managed to get a PC running PCNFS (5.x) to mount a directory on > a FreeBSD host using the standard nfsd/mountd combination? I can't get it > to work at all. In the end I have resorted to compiling the user-space nfs > server code that Linux uses and this seems to work OK (although directories > with more than 20 files seem to screw it up badly). > > I'm pretty sure it isn't a permissions problem as I don't have to tell the > user-space nfsd/mountd to allow accesses from unprivileged port or mounts > from non-root clients. > > Can someone verify that it does actually work? I have checked the mail > archives via the Web but I couldn't find a definition answer. > > David > > p.s. I am running FreeBSD 2.1 SNAP from a couple of weeks ago. I believe you gotta use mountd -n on the FreeBSD side. I connected a PC under DOS/Windows 3.11 recently to a FreeBSD box using a shareware NFS client (XFS32 - obtainable from robertj@lwfws1@uni-paderborn.de) and I had to run mountd -n otherwise I had authentication problems. I also installed pcnfsd from the ports dir. > > -- > David Hedley (David.Hedley@bris.ac.uk) > http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~hedley/ > finger hedley@cs.bris.ac.uk for PGP key > Computer Graphics Group | University of Bristol | UK > *** All opinions expressed are mine and mine alone *** > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 04:25:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA26448 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:25:25 -0700 Received: from mail.eskimo.com (root@mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA26443 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:25:23 -0700 Received: from kato.eskimo.com (jamesmw@tia1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.40]) by mail.eskimo.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA14049; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:23:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 04:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: James Wraalstad To: Christoph Kukulies cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keyboard locks at login prompt In-Reply-To: <199510130751.IAA00324@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Did you test it without the screensaver enabled? Yes. > Can you ALT-F2 switch to the second (e.g.) console? No. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de I also disabled all of the drivers that were not needed and conflicting with other drivers. I was thinking of trying to remove some of the daemons from starting or booting into single user mode but I don't know how to change the install script and if I try the -root or -r option ( does this force a boot to single user mode?) the machine never even gets to a login prompt. I was able to get v1.1.5.1 to light up so I had high hopes for Freebsd. Thank you for your reply, James Wraalstad From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 05:10:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA27554 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:10:41 -0700 Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA27549 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:10:35 -0700 Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA00732 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:53:33 +0100 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:55:29 BST From: Michael Ryan Subject: FreeBSD as firewall To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I want to use a FreeBSD machine as our gateway to the internet, via PPP over a leased line. Does anybody know what sort of firewall support it has. Can it do packet filtering on the PPP inbound and outbound interfaces? Is the filtering good? Can you have proxy servers, etc? If you can point me to sources of information regarding using FreeBSD as a firewall, I'd be extremely grateful. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 05:45:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA27888 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:45:56 -0700 Received: from wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA27882 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:45:29 -0700 Received: (from marc@localhost) by wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.7.1/8.6.10) id NAA00490; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:44:35 +0100 (MEZ) From: Marc Binderberger Message-Id: <199510131244.NAA00490@wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Subject: Re: MX addresses To: andrew@andrew.tased.edu.au (Andrew) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:44:35 +0100 (MEZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE (Marc Binderberger) In-Reply-To: from "Andrew" at Oct 13, 95 04:44:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Fri Oct 13 10:37:59 1995 > Return-Path: > Received: from wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.1]) by wptx02.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.7.1/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA00280 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:37:54 +0100 (MEZ) > Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [192.216.222.4]) by wptx01.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA09867 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:22:29 +0100 > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA17902 > ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:41:58 -0700 > Received: (from root@localhost) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA17889 > for questions-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:41:57 -0700 > Received: from flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au [147.41.41.100]) > by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA17880 > for ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:41:49 -0700 > Received: (from andrew@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00211; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:44:24 GMT > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:44:22 +0000 () > From: Andrew > X-Sender: andrew@flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: MX addresses > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > Precedence: bulk > > Hi, Hello, Andrew wrote about his trouble with MX records: > The real reason I am writing is to ask about MX addresses. I have named > running with an MX address for hobart.tased.edu.au pointing at > flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au. When mail is sent from a PC using flopsy as > a SMTP server a message comes up on the monitor of the unix - > syserr(root) MX list for hobart.tased.edu.au points back to > flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au Hope, I understand the problem. Two ways out of the trouble: i) Tell sendmail, that he is not just flopsy.hobart.tased.edu.au but also hobart.tased.edu.au by using a line "Cwhobart.tased.edu.au" in your /etc/sendmail.cf ii) Use sendmail 8.7.1 . There is a mailer flag to supress this loop detection (I think it was "k" or "K"...) Did you post your question to comp.mail.sendmail ? There the .cf hackers are at home. ;-) Regards, Marc. -- Marc Binderberger Institut fuer Theoretische Physik I marc@Physik.Uni-Wuerzburg.DE Am Hubland, 97074 Wuerzburg, Germany sciene is mistake up to date From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 08:24:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA02724 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:24:41 -0700 Received: from gate.microware.com (firewall-user@gate.microware.com [198.17.151.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA02716 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:24:36 -0700 Received: by gate.microware.com; id AA16044; Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:22:20 CDT Received: from mcrware.microware.com(192.52.109.32) by gate.microware via smap (g3.0.1) id xma016042; Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:22:11 -0500 Received: from snake (snake.microware.com) by mcrware.microware.com with SMTP id AA10988 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:23:59 -0500 From: John Lengeling Received: by snake id ; Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:23:57 CDT Message-Id: <9510131523.AA13753@snake> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: cam@pinnacle.co.nz (Cam Mander-Merrilees) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:23:56 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510122234.LAA19350@kiwi.pinnacle.co.nz> from "Cam Mander-Merrilees" at Oct 13, 95 11:34:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 807 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > We have an OLD Altos 386 with : > 8 MB RAM > 60MB QIC Streaming Tape drive (ESDI ?) > 1.2 MB 5.25" Floppy disk drive (ESDI ?) > Ethernet Card > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > > We have FreeBSD 2.0.5 and would like to run this on the above machine. Is > there any way we can install FreeBSD on this machine since it does not have > a 3.5" Floppy drive ?? We have a number of PC's connected on our TCP/IP > network which have 3.5" Floppy drives... We have a number of Unix (different The older 386 based Altos 1000/2000 computers are not PC compatable. The later 386s sold after Acer purchased Altos are PC compatable. Pop open the 386 and if it looks like the insides of a PC with ISA bus then you have a chance at running FreeBSD, otherwise no. John Lengeling johnl@microware.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 08:47:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA03610 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:47:03 -0700 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA03598 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:46:51 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03175; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:46:44 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8kTcYrO00YUtAAdUc9@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 CC: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> References: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 12-Oct-95 Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 Julian Elischer@ref.tfs. (1024*) > > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > > Is this possible ??? > I would expect it to work.. > the disk will be very tight. > you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' Am I misreading something in his original email? 370mb should be plenty for whatever he wants to do, as long as he's not running an ftp site or web server or something. I run some very happy systems off of 250 meg partitions.. Maybe I missed something about partitioning on his system? I was under the impression that 15 megs was the minimal install binary stuff, making the min really around 50 megs or something? ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 08:47:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA03611 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:47:03 -0700 Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu (PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA03603 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:46:54 -0700 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03175; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:46:44 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8kTcYrO00YUtAAdUc9@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert N Watson To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 CC: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> References: <199510130026.RAA06206@ref.tfs.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 12-Oct-95 Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 Julian Elischer@ref.tfs. (1024*) > > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > > Is this possible ??? > I would expect it to work.. > the disk will be very tight. > you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' Am I misreading something in his original email? 370mb should be plenty for whatever he wants to do, as long as he's not running an ftp site or web server or something. I run some very happy systems off of 250 meg partitions.. Maybe I missed something about partitioning on his system? I was under the impression that 15 megs was the minimal install binary stuff, making the min really around 50 megs or something? ---- Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 09:03:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA04210 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:03:26 -0700 Received: from mail.trglink.com (mail.trglink.com [198.60.146.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA04204 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:03:19 -0700 Received: from TRG-Message_Server by mail.trglink.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:03:17 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:02:37 -0700 From: Usman Ansari To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe FreeBSD-questions Usman Ansari From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 09:29:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA05116 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:29:24 -0700 Received: from gw.wmich.edu (root@gw.wmich.edu [141.218.1.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA05111 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:29:21 -0700 Received: from piglet.cc.wmich.edu (piglet.cc.wmich.edu [141.218.20.105]) by gw.wmich.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03459 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:29:19 -0400 Received: from wmich.edu by wmich.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #5064) id <01HWE3XKBJGW8X6H5L@wmich.edu> for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:28:16 -0400 (EDT) From: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> Subject: Kerberos IV To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I recently set up Kerberos IV and i am running into some problems..... The tickets aren't being issued, i'm recieving this message kerberos intkt error: Retry count exceeded (send_to_kdc) Can anyone offer any explanation? ThanX in advance! -T Timothy M. Butkiewicz *-----^\/\/|Phone: 616.349.8044 University Computing Services *----------^\/\/|Fax: 616.373.6680 Western Michigan University *---------^\/\/|eMail: 31butkiewicz@wmich.edu Kalamazoo, Michigan *------------^\/\/|http://arbornet.org/~wirehead From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 09:50:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA05563 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:50:30 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA05558 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:50:28 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA15613; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:50:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:50:21 -0400 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9510131650.AA15613@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: -=WireHead=- <31butkiewicz@wmich.edu> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kerberos IV In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I recently set up Kerberos IV and i am running into some problems..... > The tickets aren't being issued, i'm recieving this message > kerberos intkt error: Retry count exceeded (send_to_kdc) > Can anyone offer any explanation? Yes. The client programs are unable to contact the Kerberos server. You can use `tcpdump udp port 750' to watch this traffic. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 09:56:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA05708 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:56:35 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it (root@strider.ibe.net [194.179.130.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA05701 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:56:10 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03939; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:55:19 +0100 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199510131655.RAA03939@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: disappearing users To: andrew@andrew.tased.edu.au (Andrew) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:55:18 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrew" at Oct 13, 95 04:44:22 pm Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 828 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from Andrew (Fri Oct 13 17:44:22 1995): > Thanks for your help in the past...everything seems to be working except > for the occaision "crash" where the unix refuses connections telnet > connections and all the users dissappear (where their names should be (in > finger etc) there are numbers...usually 0 or 1001) and ~user paths stop > working. If you have any ideas it would be nice but.... You lost the 2 passwd databases (I hope you didn't lose the sources). As root, run "pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd" or use "vipw" and exit with ":wq". This will re-create the needed databases. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 11:13:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA07858 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:13:53 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA07852 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:13:51 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15594(1)>; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:52:47 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177475>; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:52:31 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: "Jason T. Nelson" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can 2.0.1 mount NEXTSTEP disks? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Oct 95 11:53:05 PDT." <9510121853.AA09535@purcell.jlc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:52:30 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95Oct13.105231pdt.177475@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <9510121853.AA09535@purcell.jlc.net> you write: >I was hoping I could mount the NEXTSTEP disk because it's a 4.3 filesystem, >but I've been unsuccessful so far. Can it be done? If not, why not? One reason why not is the NeXTStep filesystem is a big-endian filesystem, even under NeXTStep 486. (One of the reasons that NeXTStep won't run on 386's - byte-swapping is too slow). Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 12:01:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA09042 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:01:24 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA09036 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:01:22 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00375; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:20:04 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:20:04 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: shawkejg Subject: reboot error (keyboard reset) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Everytime I reboot this machine, It gives a "Keyboard reset failed. Attempting CPU shutdown" Does anybody know what I can do to resolve this problem? Or -at least, where to look??? Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 12:19:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA09656 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:19:47 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA09650 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:19:44 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00478; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:19:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199510131919.MAA00478@everest> Subject: Re: reboot error (keyboard reset) To: root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" at Oct 13, 95 03:20:04 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 506 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Everytime I reboot this machine, It gives a > "Keyboard reset failed. Attempting CPU shutdown" > Does anybody know what I can do to resolve this problem? > Or -at least, where to look??? > Jeff You'll need to recompile your kernel with BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET defined. >From /sys/i386/conf/LINT: # # BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET disables the use of the keyboard controller to # reset the CPU for reboot. This is needed on some systems with broken # keyboard controllers. #options "BROKEN_KEYBOARD_RESET" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 13:08:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA10910 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:08:49 -0700 Received: from faser.cs.olemiss.edu (faser.cs.olemiss.edu [130.74.96.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA10905 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:08:45 -0700 Received: (from don@localhost) by faser.cs.olemiss.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA13066 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:18:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:18:56 -0500 From: Donaldo Carvalho Message-Id: <199510132018.PAA13066@faser.cs.olemiss.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ati Mach64 WinTurbo Card and XFree86 3.1.1 Help Request.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an Ati Mach 64 Winturbo PCI Card and am running Xfree86 3.1.1. The Monitor is a Sampo AlphaScan GL (20"). Although I have X running, I am unable to get it to fit on one screen in the 1024x768 mode. If anyone has got this working please send me the XF86config file. Thanx, any help is greatly appreciated :-) Don +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Donaldo A. Carvalho | | Email Address : don@faser.cs.olemiss.edu | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 13:30:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA11290 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:30:32 -0700 Received: from ftp.baan.com (ftp.baan.com [199.170.116.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA11283 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:30:22 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by ftp.baan.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA17398; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:40:23 -0400 From: User Jim Message-Id: <199510132040.QAA17398@ftp.baan.com> Subject: Multiple Buslogic BT946C controller problems To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: jim@ftp.baan.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5568 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to upgrade my companies FreeBSD 2.0.5 release box by adding a second Buslogic BT946C PCI SCSI controller. Everything seems fine after reconfiguring the kernel, and during the boot process both controllers are found as well as well as all of the attached devices. The problem occurs whenever I try to disklabel one of the drives on the second controller. The machine just freezes.No kernel panic or other error message, it just decides to stop right there. Attached is a copy of the kernel config file and the output of dmesg. Additionally, the motherboard is a Micronics P66 PCI/EISA and has an ATI Ultra Pro PCI video card. Is there some trick to getting two controllers to coexist ? Any insight would be appreciated. -Jim Johncox FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 19 03:07:39 EDT 1995 root@micron:/usr/src/sys/compile/micron CPU: 66-MHz Pentium 567\\66 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 49938432 (12192 pages) avail memory = 46977024 (11469 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 8192 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:50:f7:a9, type SMC8416C/SMC8416BT (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in bt0: Bt946C/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 bt0: version 4.22, sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: targ 0 sync rate=10.00MB/s(100ns), offset=15 bt0: targ 3 sync rate= 5.00MB/s(200ns), offset=08 bt0: targ 4 sync rate= 5.00MB/s(200ns), offset=08 bt0: targ 6 async bt0: Enabling Round robin scheme bt0 at 0x330 irq 11 on isa bt0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (bt0:0:0): "CONNER CFA540S 12B0" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 515MB (1056708 512 byte sectors) (bt0:3:0): "HP HP35470A 1109" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(bt0:3:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty (bt0:4:0): "HP HP35470A 1109" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1(bt0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty (bt0:6:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM DM-XX28 3.08" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(bt0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present.[264427 x 2048 byte records] bt1: Bt946C/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus bt1: reading board settings, busmastering, int=15 bt1: version 4.25J, async only, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt1: targ 0 async bt1: targ 1 async bt1: targ 4 async bt1: targ 5 async bt1: targ 6 async bt1: Enabling Round robin scheme bt1 at 0x334 irq 15 on isa bt1 waiting for scsi devices to settle (bt1:0:0): "CONNER CFP2107S 2.14GB 2B4B" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(bt1:0:0): Direct-Access 2048MB (4194304 512 byte sectors) (bt1:1:0): "CONNER CFP2107S 2.14GB 2B4B" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd2(bt1:1:0): Direct-Access 2048MB (4194304 512 byte sectors) (bt1:4:0): "MICROP 3243-19SC21020AV CN05" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd3(bt1:4:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) (bt1:5:0): "MICROP 3243-19SC21020AV CN05" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd4(bt1:5:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) (bt1:6:0): "CONNER CFP4207S 4.28GB 2847" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd5(bt1:6:0): Direct-Access 4096MB (8388608 512 byte sectors) npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 2 allows 16 devices. chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 3 on pci0:2 vga0 rev 2 int a irq 255 on pci0:11 pci0:13: vendor=0xffff, device=0x140, class=storage [not supported] map(10): io(330) pci0:15: vendor=0xffff, device=0x140, class=storage [not supported] map(10): io(334) pci0: uses 4194304 bytes of memory from 80000000 upto 803fffff. changing root device to sd0a --------------------------------------------------------------------------- machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident micron maxusers 48 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr controller bt1 at isa? port "IO_BT1" bio irq ? vector btintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device sd1 device sd2 device sd3 device sd4 device sd5 device st0 device st1 device st2 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 15:23:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA15033 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:23:21 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA15022 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:23:18 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA09125; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:59 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510132222.PAA09125@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert N Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8kTcYrO00YUtAAdUc9@andrew.cmu.edu> from "Robert N Watson" at Oct 13, 95 11:43:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1011 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 12-Oct-95 Re: > FreeBSD on an Altos 386 Julian Elischer@ref.tfs. (1024*) > > > > > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > Sorry I looked up and THOUGHT I saw a 60MB disk I didn't notice the 370MB 370MB is as you say plenty.. > > > > Is this possible ??? > > I would expect it to work.. > > the disk will be very tight. > > you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' > > Am I misreading something in his original email? 370mb should be plenty > for whatever he wants to do, as long as he's not running an ftp site or > web server or something. I run some very happy systems off of 250 meg > partitions.. Maybe I missed something about partitioning on his system? > > I was under the impression that 15 megs was the minimal install binary > stuff, making the min really around 50 megs or something? > > > ---- > Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS > http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 15:23:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA15040 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:23:22 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA15024 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:23:18 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA09125; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:59 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199510132222.PAA09125@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on an Altos 386 To: rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert N Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8kTcYrO00YUtAAdUc9@andrew.cmu.edu> from "Robert N Watson" at Oct 13, 95 11:43:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1011 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 12-Oct-95 Re: > FreeBSD on an Altos 386 Julian Elischer@ref.tfs. (1024*) > > > > > 370 MB SCSI Hard Drive > Sorry I looked up and THOUGHT I saw a 60MB disk I didn't notice the 370MB 370MB is as you say plenty.. > > > > Is this possible ??? > > I would expect it to work.. > > the disk will be very tight. > > you'll only be able to instal a 'minimal system' > > Am I misreading something in his original email? 370mb should be plenty > for whatever he wants to do, as long as he's not running an ftp site or > web server or something. I run some very happy systems off of 250 meg > partitions.. Maybe I missed something about partitioning on his system? > > I was under the impression that 15 megs was the minimal install binary > stuff, making the min really around 50 megs or something? > > > ---- > Robert Watson (rnw+@andrew.cmu.edu) * Double major: IDS/CS * H&SS > http://www.watson.org/ robert@fledge.watson.org > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 16:19:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA16465 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:19:52 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA16460 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:19:48 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00739 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:19:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199510132319.QAA00739@everest> Subject: Buslogic 445 async only? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2135 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This has been a problem for quite awhile - and I'd like to get it resolved now that I have time to look into it. I have a 486 machine (VL) with a Buslogic 445S and a variety of SCSI-I and -II disks installed. On bootup, the kernel reports that the board is set for async mode. I don't see anywhere in the docs where this can be disabled/enabled. From reading the source, I have learned that the bt driver only uses what the controller tells it, so it's gotta be an issue with the controller. Any ideas? I'd really like to get this thing working in sync mode. Oct 7 12:08:27 everest /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in Oct 7 12:08:27 everest /kernel: bt0: Bt445S/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus Oct 7 12:08:27 everest /kernel: bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 Oct 7 12:08:27 everest /kernel: bt0: version 3.37, async, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs Oct 7 12:08:27 everest /kernel: bt0: Enabling Round robin scheme Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: bt0 at 0x330 irq 11 on isa Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: bt0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST31230N 0300" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors) Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:1:0): "CONNER CFP1080S 3636" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: sd1(bt0:1:0): Direct-Access 1030MB (2110812 512 byte sectors) Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:2:0): "CDC 94171-9 0045" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: sd2(bt0:2:0): Direct-Access 312MB (640584 512 byte sectors) Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:3:0): "HP 97548S C004" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: sd3(bt0:3:0): Direct-Access 633MB (1296512 512 byte sectors) Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:4:0): "HP 97548S C004" type 0 fixed SCSI 1 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: sd4(bt0:4:0): Direct-Access 633MB (1296512 512 byte sectors) Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: (bt0:5:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:84 1.0a" type 5 removable SCSI 1 Oct 7 12:08:28 everest /kernel: cd0(bt0:5:0): CD-ROM cd present.[264427 x 2048 byte records] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 16:58:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA17223 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:58:27 -0700 Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA17217 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:58:25 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA17478 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:03:58 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199510140003.RAA17478@MediaCity.com> Subject: hylafax unable to spawn getty To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:03:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 587 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm running hylafax on a -current system with ZyXEL 1496E and it works great. I'm running hylafax on a 2.1 SNAP 951005 with a generic ROCKWELL modem and it mostly works. However, when I make a data call into the system, the log shows that it spawns getty on the port, put no login ever shows up. I can see (via ps) getty on the right port just sitting there. It sits there until I kill the getty at which point I get hung up upon and the hylafax system takes over again. On both systems I'm using /dev/cuaa0. Any ideas what is wrong? Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 17:33:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA18619 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:33:08 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA18614 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:33:05 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA18746; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:28:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510140028.RAA18746@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: hylafax unable to spawn getty To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:28:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510140003.RAA17478@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Oct 13, 95 05:03:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1240 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running hylafax on a -current system with ZyXEL 1496E > and it works great. > > I'm running hylafax on a 2.1 SNAP 951005 with a generic > ROCKWELL modem and it mostly works. However, when > I make a data call into the system, the log shows > that it spawns getty on the port, put no login > ever shows up. I can see (via ps) getty on the right port > just sitting there. It sits there until I kill the getty > at which point I get hung up upon and the hylafax system > takes over again. > > On both systems I'm using /dev/cuaa0. > > Any ideas what is wrong? How about "nothing". 1) getty's open doesn't complete until DCD goes high. 2) getty puts out the /etc/issue (if you have a good getty), the login prompt from the gettytab, and then waits for input. Or a break character, which causes it to rotor through the baud rate list. 3) After you type in a name, getty exec's login with the name, and login asks for the password. 4) (optional) if the login fails, login, not getty, issues the next "login: " prompt. That's why the initial and subsequent prompts are different. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 18:57:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA20677 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:57:38 -0700 Received: from theriver.com (root@pantano.theriver.com [205.216.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA20672 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:57:35 -0700 Received: from GouverneuR (dial0.P8.theriver.com) by theriver.com with SMTP id AA18099 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:07:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:07:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199510140207.AA18099@theriver.com> X-Sender: GouverneuR@theriver.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: majordomo@FreeBSD.org From: Gouverneur Morris Subject: no-more Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freeBSD-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 19:35:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA21306 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:35:31 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA21293 ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:35:24 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA18965; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:29:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199510140229.TAA18965@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: no-more To: GouverneuR@theriver.com (Gouverneur Morris) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:29:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: majordomo@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199510140207.AA18099@theriver.com> from "Gouverneur Morris" at Oct 13, 95 07:07:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 528 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > unsubscribe freeBSD-questions > You would have better luck sending this to the subscription control program instead of the list. Send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" unsubscribe freebsd-questions GouverneuR@theriver.com (Assuming this is the address you subscribed from). You were sent this information automatically by the subscription control program when you subscribed. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 20:09:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA22054 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:09:20 -0700 Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA22049 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:09:13 -0700 Received: from line-31.insync.net (line-31.insync.net [204.253.208.231]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA05232 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:06:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199510140306.WAA05232@kilgour.nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:12:56 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Eudora and Sendmail questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone please explain exactly what happens differently on mail that has different priorities? Eudora (Windows) has 5 levels of priorities that produce different markings on receipt. Do these have ANYTHING to do with sendmail handling? I notice much of the freebsd list stuff comes in with "bulk" priority. What is the effect on receiving the mail? Is there someway I can define certain users to have their outgoing mail delayed until after a certain time, even though sendmail does queue processing before then? I realize I could buy the ORA SendMail book, but I can't afford it, my boss won't pay for it, and all you guys are just so darned helpful on stuff like this :) Thanks in advance. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 20:14:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA22186 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:14:06 -0700 Received: from pcca71.gallaudet.edu (root@pcca71.gallaudet.edu [134.231.56.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA22181 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:14:02 -0700 Received: (from jon@localhost) by pcca71.gallaudet.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA17493; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:16:10 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 23:16:09 +0000 () From: Basket Case To: Freebsd Questions Subject: Printing Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi -- Ive been unable to setup my printer correctly (HP LaserJet 4L) as the only thing that comes out are blank pages. What am I doing wrong? My printcap entry is: lp|HP LaserJet 4L:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:\ :mx#0:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :sh=true: Jon From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Oct 13 20:50:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA22869 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:50:52 -0700 Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA22860 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:50:46 -0700 Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA27416; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:50:13 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:50 EDT Received: from lakes (lakes [192.96.3.39]) by ponds.UUCP (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA11089; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:19:50 -0400 Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA08592; Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:37:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:37:08 -0400 From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199510140037.UAA08592@lakes> To: kryten.atinc.com!jmb@dg-rtp.dg.com, ponds!rivers Subject: Re: Dropping off mailing lists Cc: jbrann@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text Content-Length: 733 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I suffer from this every-now-and-then, but it is always associated > > with a mail problem between me an freebsd.org. When mail bounces back > > to Majordomo; it removes you from the mailing list to prevent a > ^^^^ > > EXCUSE ME! I am not an 'it'. I am not 'Cousin It'. PLEASE, > dont call me "it", cause "it" dont fit. > > really ;^) > Opps - sorry, I had an idea that the removal from the list was automatic; (I know with some listserv software it is...) I didn't know that was actually an actual person handling the task :-) [ Of course, without getting too personal, one could argue that a gender-neutral pronoun was more p.c. - but I'd prefer 'he' in that case... :-) ] - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 04:52:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA05522 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 04:52:22 -0700 Received: from late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.254.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA05515 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 04:52:11 -0700 Received: (from tuucp@localhost) by late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA21397 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:51:57 -0400 Received: from odin (iwte01-2.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [192.44.83.18]) by iwte01.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03337; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:10:07 +0100 Received: (from eilts@localhost) by odin (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA00418; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:10:06 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:10:06 +0100 From: Hinrich Eilts Message-Id: <199510141110.MAA00418@odin> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: bmk@dtr.com Subject: Re: Buslogic 445 async only? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On FreeBSD 2.0.5-ALPHA (with 16MBytes) I get bt0: Bt445S/ 0-ISA(24bit) bus bt0: Your board should report a 32bit bus architecture type.. bt0: The firmware on your board may have a problem with over bt0: 16MBytes memory handling with this driver. bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=12 bt0: version 3.36, fast sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: targ 1 sync rate=10.00MB/s(100ns), offset=15 bt0: targ 3 sync rate= 4.00MB/s(250ns), offset=15 bt0: Enabling Round robin scheme bt0 at 0x330 irq 12 on isa (bt0:1:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_2100S 1022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:1:0): Direct-Access 2006MB (4108600 512 byte sectors) (bt0:3:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3501TA 3054" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(bt0:3:0): CD-ROM cd present.[327825 x 2048 byte records] Maybe, jumpers on your Bt445S are not correct. Hinrich From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 04:52:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA05539 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 04:52:28 -0700 Received: from late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.254.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA05529 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 04:52:23 -0700 Received: (from tuucp@localhost) by late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA21406 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:52:04 -0400 Received: from odin (iwte01-2.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de [192.44.83.18]) by iwte01.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03399; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:52:13 +0100 Received: (from eilts@localhost) by odin (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA00431; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:52:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:52:11 +0100 From: Hinrich Eilts Message-Id: <199510141152.MAA00431@odin> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hylafax unable to spawn getty Cc: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm running hylafax on a 2.1 SNAP 951005 with a generic > ROCKWELL modem and it mostly works. However, when > I make a data call into the system, the log shows > that it spawns getty on the port, put no login > ever shows up. I can see (via ps) getty on the right port > just sitting there. It sits there until I kill the getty > at which point I get hung up upon and the hylafax system > takes over again. If a data-call happens, a Rockwell based modems (ELSA Microlink 28.8 TQV in my case) picks up line, recognize the data-call and sends +FDM while it negotiate speed, compression etc with remote modem. Because HylaFax spawns getty on receiving +FDM, getty got /dev/cuaa* before the connection is enabled (modem is still negotating). To solve this problem, getty should wait for the CONNECT message and not for +FDM, there is an option in HylaFax conf named ModemWaitForConnect for this. In my case, because this option does not work (for me), I installed a little hacked version of getty named fgetty waiting for CONNECT for HylaFax (only HylaFax uses it, of course): fd_set readset; struct timeval connectwait; [...] if (argc <= 2 || strcmp(argv[2], "-") == 0) { strcpy(ttyn, ttyname(0)); FD_ZERO(&readset); FD_SET(STDIN_FILENO, &readset); connectwait.tv_sec = MAXCONNECTWAIT; connectwait.tv_usec = 0; n = select(STDIN_FILENO +1,&readset,NULL,NULL,&connectwait); if (n == 0) { syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: timeout on waiting for CONNECT", ttyn); exit(1); } else if (n < 0) { syslog(LOG_ERR, "%s: select: %m"); exit(1); } } [...] You must tell the fgetty at config-time to HylaFax. Because I used an old getty for this, I cannot provide an actual patch, but I think it is easy for you. Hinrich From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 06:04:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA06478 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 06:04:17 -0700 Received: from s1.GANet.NET (ec0@s1.GANet.NET [199.18.201.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA06473 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 06:04:14 -0700 Received: (from ec0@localhost) by s1.GANet.NET (8.6.11/8.6.11) id JAA03770 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:04:15 -0400 From: Eric Chet Message-Id: <199510141304.JAA03770@s1.GANet.NET> Subject: low-level format To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:04:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 322 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello I have a 2Gig IBM Ultrastar drive that was used in a AS/400. I want to use this drive in my FreeBSD machine. I believe AS/400 uses 520 byte sectors. How do I low-level format this drive under FreeBSD for 512 byte sectors? Would it be possible to use the scsi command? Thanks, Eric Chet --> ec0@ganet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 07:51:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA08406 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:51:11 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA08401 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:51:06 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA00526; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:50:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199510141450.HAA00526@everest> Subject: Re: Buslogic 445 async only? To: brian@MediaCity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 07:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510140012.RAA17659@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Oct 13, 95 05:12:01 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1313 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > This has been a problem for quite awhile - and I'd like to get it > > resolved now that I have time to look into it. > > > > I have a 486 machine (VL) with a Buslogic 445S and a variety of SCSI-I > > and -II disks installed. On bootup, the kernel reports that the board > > is set for async mode. I don't see anywhere in the docs where this can > > be disabled/enabled. From reading the source, I have learned that the > > bt driver only uses what the controller tells it, so it's gotta be an > > issue with the controller. > > > > Any ideas? I'd really like to get this thing working in sync mode. > > > Does the 445S support FAST? Yes. > I may be miss remembering this, but I seem to remember from somewhere > (possibly the SCSI spec from ANSI) that FAST mode will only be negotiated > if all the devices on the BUS are SCSI 2. (on the other hand, it might > have just been one of those reliability things) Dunno, but that's easy to verify since the SCSI-1 devices in this system aren't required to boot the system. After looking at the docs more carefully, I see that the default operation is async. I'm going to take a peek inside and see what's up. > So you might want to consider that when you are trying to squeeze out > extra performance. > Brian Litzinger > brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 09:11:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12146 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:11:35 -0700 Received: from ids.net (ids.net [155.212.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA12138 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:11:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Fayne - IDS World Network Tech Support To: QUESTIONS@FREEBSD.ORG CC: BOBFE@ids.net Message-Id: <951014121010.3994e@ids.net> Subject: Make kernel fails Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I can't get a kernel to compile any more for some unknown reason. I've followed the instructions on the web page, and even tried using my old config file to regenerate the exact same kernel I'm using now. Here's the output I get when I do a make. (config MYKERNEL works fine) ------------------------------------------------------- paperboy:/usr/src/sys/compile/PAPERBOY> make cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-exter ns -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I/usr/include -DPAPERBOY -DI586_CPU -DMAX MEM=131072 -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DSCSI_DELAY=15 -DCOMPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DCD 9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -DTI MEZONE=0 -DDST=0 -DMAXUSERS=50 -UKERNEL ../../i386/i386/genassym.c In file included from ./machine/signal.h:48, from ../../sys/signal.h:48, from ../../sys/param.h:88, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:41: ./machine/trap.h:40: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ../../sys/param.h:91, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:41: ./machine/param.h:106: unterminated comment ./machine/param.h:105: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ../../sys/param.h:92, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:41: ./machine/limits.h:37: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ./machine/cpu.h:46, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:54: ./machine/frame.h:40: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ./machine/cpu.h:47, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:54: ./machine/segments.h:1: unterminated comment In file included from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:55: ./machine/trap.h:40: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ../../vm/vm_param.h:74, from ../../vm/vm.h:63, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:60: ./machine/vmparam.h:118: invalid macro name ./machine/vmparam.h:43: unterminated `#if' conditional In file included from ../../sys/user.h:40, from ../../i386/i386/genassym.c:61: ./machine/pcb.h:40: unterminated `#if' conditional *** Error code 1 Stop. ----------------------------------------- My exact config file follows at the end of this message. I'm also having trouble with ipfw, I get this error when I try to do anything with ipfw... paperboy:/> ipfw flush ipfw: setsockopt failed. Any help would be most appreciated. Bob Fayne bobfe@ids.net ----------------------------------------- # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # GENERIC,v 1.45.2.3 1995/06/05 21:50:41 jkh Exp # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident PAPERBOY maxusers 50 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options "MAXMEM=131072" #Allow max memory config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 device de0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 controller ncr0 controller ahc0 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr controller matcd0 at isa? port ? bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty device lpt2 at isa? port? tty # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 09:43:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA12798 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:43:57 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA12793 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 09:43:54 -0700 Received: from websurfer.etinc.com (websurfer.etinc.com [204.141.95.5]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA13910; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:55:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 12:55:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199510141655.MAA13910@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Nathan Stratton From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: T1 Card and FreeBSD Cc: questions@freebsd.org, et-users@netrail.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >would you know the file it runs when a freebsd does a shutdown? I want to >put that line uust before it syncs the disks. In linux it was >/etc/rc.d/rc.0 but I can't see what freebsd uses. > I don't know, I'm copying this to the freebsd list...... you could create a file called "doshutdown" like this /usr/hdlc/utils/et5reset shutdown and use it instead of shutdown..... Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Boards and Routers for Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC and X.25 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 10:14:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA13308 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:14:59 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA13303 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:14:56 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00505; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:13:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199510141713.KAA00505@everest> Subject: Re: T1 Card and FreeBSD To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 10:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nathan@netrail.net, questions@freebsd.org, et-users@netrail.net In-Reply-To: <199510141655.MAA13910@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Oct 14, 95 12:55:32 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 722 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >would you know the file it runs when a freebsd does a shutdown? I want to > >put that line uust before it syncs the disks. In linux it was > >/etc/rc.d/rc.0 but I can't see what freebsd uses. > > > I don't know, I'm copying this to the freebsd list...... > you could create a file called "doshutdown" like this > /usr/hdlc/utils/et5reset > shutdown > and use it instead of shutdown..... A quick look at the shutdown man page leads me to believe that there's no script run by shutdown. However, it should be possible to hack the shutdown source to do what you want. I'm not a C expert, but it seems that you could fork another process that'd execute whatever scripts that you wanted and wait for completion. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 11:12:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA14367 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:12:53 -0700 Received: from etinc.com (etinc-gw.new-york.net [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA14362 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:12:50 -0700 Received: from trumpet.etnet.com (trumpet.etnet.com [129.45.17.35]) by etinc.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14090; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 14:24:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 14:24:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199510141824.OAA14090@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: et-users@netrail.net From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: [ET-users] Re: T1 Card and FreeBSD Cc: questions@freebsd.org, nathan@netrail.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> >would you know the file it runs when a freebsd does a shutdown? I want to >> >put that line uust before it syncs the disks. In linux it was >> >/etc/rc.d/rc.0 but I can't see what freebsd uses. >> > > >> I don't know, I'm copying this to the freebsd list...... > >> you could create a file called "doshutdown" like this > >> /usr/hdlc/utils/et5reset >> shutdown > >> and use it instead of shutdown..... > >A quick look at the shutdown man page leads me to believe that there's >no script run by shutdown. > >However, it should be possible to hack the shutdown source to do what >you want. I'm not a C expert, but it seems that you could fork another >process that'd execute whatever scripts that you wanted and wait for >completion. > This sounds like way too much work. I would do the following: mv /sbin/shutdown /sbin/shutdown.orig and then create a batch file named /sbin/shutdown as to following: /usr/hdlc/utils/et5reset 0 #/usr/hdlc/utils/et5reset 2 when you add another board /sbin/shutdown.orig Another solution is to enable the "memory sharing" option in the config file for the board. This will cause the shared memory window to be enabled only when the memory is being accessed. There is a little overhead, but not much. You may be using this to put multiple boards at the same address when you add more boards anyway. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 11:58:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA15160 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:58:32 -0700 Received: from everest (dtr.rain.com [204.119.8.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA15155 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:58:15 -0700 From: bmk@dtr.com Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA06848; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:57:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199510141857.LAA06848@everest> Subject: Re: [ET-users] Re: T1 Card and FreeBSD To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 11:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: et-users@netrail.net, questions@freebsd.org, nathan@netrail.net In-Reply-To: <199510141824.OAA14090@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Oct 14, 95 02:24:25 pm Reply-To: bmk@dtr.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 573 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > >> >would you know the file it runs when a freebsd does a shutdown? I want to > >> >put that line uust before it syncs the disks. In linux it was > >> >/etc/rc.d/rc.0 but I can't see what freebsd uses. [snip] > This sounds like way too much work. I would do the following: [snip] Sure, it's a lot of work. However, the original poster asked for a solution that would provide an option to run an external script just before the disks are synced. Your method won't do that - but it may be an acceptable workaround, depending on the requirements of the user. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 15:47:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA20932 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:47:37 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA20926 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:47:34 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA13175; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:47:31 +1100 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:47:30 +1100 (DST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: SB16 and 2.0.5-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, ever since I changed to 2.0.5 I haven't been able to use my SB16 for playing .au files etc. It worked under 2.0 OK but the sb drivers changed with 2.0.5 (as far as I can tell since the devices in the kernel config changed). I have configured my kernel as specified in the LINT file but sound doesn't work. The sound card seems to be probed OK at bootup so I don't know where to go from here. I haven't needed sound to work until now so it has had a low priority... Output from dmesg and my kernel config file follow: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sat Sep 30 15:30:38 1995 cp_nairn@bhelliom.utas.edu.au:/usr/src/sys/compile/BHELLIOM CPU: 100-MHz Pentium 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16384000 (4000 pages) avail memory = 14921728 (3643 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 10 on isa ed0: address 00:c0:58:20:b0:45, type NE2000 (16 bit) bpf: ed0 attached sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. lpt0 at 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 515MB (1056384 sectors), 1048 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 405MB (830760 sectors), 989 cyls, 15 heads, 56 S/T, 512 B/S wt0: disabled, not probed. scd0 not found at 0x230 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa sbxvi0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa sbmidi: opl0 at 0x388 on isa opl0: bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached bpf: ppp1 attached bpf: sl0 attached bpf: sl1 attached bpf: tun0 attached /sys/i386/conf/BHELLIOM # # BHELLIOM -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: BHELLIOM,v 1.36 1995/03/26 12:15:00 cpn Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident GENERIC maxusers 10 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options GATEWAY #internetwork gateway options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console config kernel root on wd0 swap on wd0 and wd1 and vn0 dumps on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr # Sound Card Configuration controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 2 pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device vn pseudo-device snp 3 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device bpfilter 4 Thanks, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 15:58:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA21582 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:58:21 -0700 Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA21577 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:58:19 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA09529; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:56:02 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199510142256.PAA09529@MediaCity.com> Subject: Solved: hylafax unable to spawn getty with Cardinal 28.8 To: eilts@iwte01.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Hinrich Eilts) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510141152.MAA00431@odin> from "Hinrich Eilts" at Oct 14, 95 12:52:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1502 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk My original problem: > > I'm running hylafax on a 2.1 SNAP 951005 with a generic > > ROCKWELL modem and it mostly works. However, when > > I make a data call into the system, the log shows > > that it spawns getty on the port, put no login > > ever shows up. I'm using a Cardinal V.34 28.8 modem. Hinrich Eilts pointed out that he had some problems with getty being spawned before the CONNECT message from the modem. Looking into my problem I determined that: Yes, indeed, faxgetty was spawning getty before the CONNECT message from the modem. This resulted in getty sending 'login:' to the modem during the handshake and the modem disconnecting. Hylafax has a config option called ModemWaitForConnect which is supposed to address this problem. It doesn't work because: Some modems send DATA CONNECT 38400 for which the hylafax ModemWaitForConnect works great. However, my Cardinal 28.8 is sending: DATA CONNECT 38400 for which ModemWaitForConnect doesn't work so well. Following some more advice from Hinrich, I modified getty to wait for the CONNECT message. I named the waitforCONNECT getty fgetty per hinrich's advice, and re-config hylafax to invoke fgetty. All works now. Happy days. Thanks to Hinrich Eilts for point me in the right direction. Disclaimer: I'm not a c++ expert (hylafax is written in c++) so my opinions of the functionality of the code may be wrong. Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 16:25:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA22435 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:25:46 -0700 Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA22429 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:25:37 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (134.100.239.2) with smtp id ; Sun, 15 Oct 95 00:25 MET Received: from by mail.hanse.de with bsmtp for id ; Sun, 15 Oct 95 00:03 MET Received: from tsunami.Hanse.DE by mwhh.Hanse.DE with cbsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #20) id m0t4FjJ-000HyhC; Sun, 15 Oct 95 00:11 GMT+0100 Received: by tsunami.Hanse.DE (CrossPoint v3.0 R/B7064); 14 Oct 1995 23:07:57 +0100 Date: 14 Oct 1995 23:07:00 +0100 From: bodhi@tsunami.Hanse.DE (Oliver Schmelzle) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <5vsha8W1OHB@tsunami.Hanse.DE> Subject: PCMCIA 3c589 Combo and BNC X-Mailer: XP v3.0 R/B7064 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I looked through the mailing-archives and discovered that there is a problem with the 3Com PCMCIA Adapter Etherlink III Combo aka 3c589 and the ethernet-driver for FreeBSD. Can I use the 3c589 via BNC with FreeBSD (-stable or -current)? Thanks for any hints. oli. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - oliver schmelzle - bodhi@tsunami.hanse.de ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- sendmail - the vietnam of berkeley unix - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 17:16:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA23621 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 17:16:30 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA23616 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 17:16:27 -0700 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA10543; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:19:20 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199510142019.QAA10543@hda.com> Subject: Re: low-level format To: ec0@s1.GANet.NET (Eric Chet) Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510141304.JAA03770@s1.GANet.NET> from "Eric Chet" at Oct 14, 95 09:04:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 730 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello > > I have a 2Gig IBM Ultrastar drive that was used in a AS/400. I want > to use this drive in my FreeBSD machine. I believe AS/400 uses 520 byte > sectors. How do I low-level format this drive under FreeBSD for 512 byte > sectors? Would it be possible to use the scsi command? I think this will work: 1. Use the mode page editor to change the data bytes per physical sector to 512: "scsi -f /dev/rsd?.ctl -m 3 -e". At any rate, you'll see what the AS/400 has it set to. 2. Use the "scsiformat" script in -current to format the drive. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 18:21:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA24583 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 18:21:24 -0700 Received: from tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA24578 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 18:21:20 -0700 Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA14036; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:21:16 +1100 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 12:21:15 +1100 (DST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: SB16 and 2.0.5-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, Carey Nairn wrote: > Hi, > > ever since I changed to 2.0.5 I haven't been able to use my SB16 for > playing .au files etc. It worked under 2.0 OK but the sb drivers changed > with 2.0.5 (as far as I can tell since the devices in the kernel config > changed). I have configured my kernel as specified in the LINT file but > sound doesn't work. The sound card seems to be probed OK at bootup so I > don't know where to go from here. I haven't needed sound to work until > now so it has had a low priority... > As is often the case, I figured it out the moment I had hit send ;) I remade the sound devices in /dev, i.e. sh MAKEDEV snd0, and everything worked fine... I guess because /dev/audio was already there I thought it should all work.. stupid me :( thanks anyway, you're all doing a great job. Cheers Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 19:50:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA27241 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:50:41 -0700 Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA27235 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:50:37 -0700 Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA05146; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:50:05 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:50 EDT Received: from lakes (lakes [192.96.3.39]) by ponds.UUCP (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA05484; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 21:15:56 -0400 Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA12460; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 21:33:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 21:33:50 -0400 From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199510150133.VAA12460@lakes> To: nething.com!rberndt@dg-rtp.dg.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Eudora and Sendmail questions Content-Type: text Content-Length: 288 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Randy Berndt > ---------------------------------- > AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: ^^^^^^ Having been the keeper of the common and ADA runtime libraries for AOS/VS for awhile (many years ago) - I find it encouraging someone still actually uses it... - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 20:05:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA27757 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:05:29 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (root@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27751 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:05:21 -0700 Received: from snoopy.vpm.com by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA18514; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:04:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199510150304.UAA18514@netcom7.netcom.com> X-Sender: mcstout@netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 20:01:02 -0700 To: Michael Smith From: Mark Stout Subject: Adding a Hard Drive Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi Michael, I got a new 1.2GB drive working and wanted to add it to my system, replcing one of the 213MB hard drives. This is sd3. My problem is, I can't get disklabel to work. I don't know what it's wants as the 'disktype'. I've tried the obvious, ufs, scsi, /usr/mdec/sdboot, sdboot. What does it want? This is also a section in the Handbook that has yet been documented. I've fdisked the drive, but I can label it and I still need to partition it. What are the steps that I need to take to add a SCSI hard drive?. BSDI has disksetup which does all this through a menuing propgram. Thanks, Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Commercial Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 21:27:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA01016 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 21:27:52 -0700 Received: from uuneo.neosoft.com (mailbot@uuneo.neosoft.com [206.109.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA01011 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 21:27:50 -0700 Received: (from mailbot@localhost) by uuneo.neosoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id XAA18540 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 23:27:49 -0500 Received: from concorde.neosoft.com(198.65.161.214) by uuneo.neosoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018530; Sat Oct 14 23:27:45 1995 Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by concorde.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id XAA01601; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 23:26:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 23:26:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@concorde.neosoft.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster 16 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying helplessly for weeks to get my Sound Blaster 16 card to work, but usually get a varient of this message at bootup sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0 not probed due to irq conflict with lpt0 at 7 sbxvi0 not found sbmidi0 not found at 0x300 My Kernel config file: ------ machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident CONCORDE maxusers 64 [SNIP] controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 conflicts device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x300 conflicts [SNIP] ------- Also tried: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 10 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x220 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 6 ------- and many other varients... Never probes everything, so no SB stuff works. Any ideas? Daniel Baker -- NeoSoft Student Assistant (UseNet, FTP & CivNet Admin.) DBaker@NeoSoft.COM DBaker@Concorde-Mail.NeoSoft.COM (A FreeBSD Machine) ** http://www.neosoft.com/neosoft/staff/dbaker/default.html ** ++Get NeoSoft 'Net Access TODAY!!! 1/800-GET-NEOSOFT++ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 14 22:24:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA02874 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:24:58 -0700 Received: from apricot.com (scanner@apricot.com [199.125.221.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA02868 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:24:54 -0700 Received: from apricot.com (scanner@localhost) by apricot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA02603 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 01:24:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199510150524.BAA02603@apricot.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: possible to block out bad media on a partition? X-URI: http://www.apricot.com/~scanner/ X-Face: 6K2.ZvQgQ.NDQLIx.1pW(xRu*">:}&PX-Ad_!!?wU7H4L"wF"0xEwYu=8Or0V+=5?-eO1XL 7-0Hom/|]B2C7Uznyol-NVnvEk:+sod^MyB4v4qVpPDemr;b@pZdRSXu.'Gm^t0?2l,j[&t.kbc[UW x6Lz^e$K$W Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 01:24:54 -0400 From: Scanner Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been a happy user of FreeBSD since around February of this year and I have finally run in to a case where I wish the disk tools were more up to what I have been used to on SunOS. I had a nasty power blip and I have no UPS for my system yet. (Yeah, yeah, I am going to look at prices this week.) When the machine came back up it was unable to come all the way up because it found a media error that it could not work around on one of the partitions. Luckily the partition was only /var (yeah, I like having /var be its own partition.. ), and also luckily I do daily backups. So, after poking around a little bit I made a /usr/var and symlinked /var to /usr/var, and restored /var off of tape. Now, I have this 32 meg partition for /var that is unreferenced (commented out of fstab), and has a media error on it. Is there anyway I can format or otherwise re-do just _that one_ partition to see if I can get it back online? My setup: cpu: intel DX2/66 core: 16meg of ram devices: Adaptec 2842A 3C509 fairly generic SVGA 1.44meg 3.5" floppy scsi dev: Quantum Empire 2100S HP35480A 4mm DAT drive Toshiba XM-3501TA cdrom version: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0 (What other information would you need?) I know that this is a pretty much entirely volunteer effort so I greatly appreciate any help that you can give. --Scanner (scanner@apricot.com)