Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:01:39 +0400 From: Muditha Gunatilake <muditha@seychelles.net> To: Rico Pajarola <pajarola@cybertime.ch>, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pricing question? Message-ID: <37DCE7A3.EF9B431E@seychelles.net> References: <19990913110619.A59569@skriver.dk> <199909130841.JAA53625@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> <CD4DE0181670D211AC5400A0C94BD1B8B4046A@dksmsx30.idk.intel.com> <199909130841.JAA53625@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> <4.1.19990913114238.00a74c10@mail.cybertime.ch>
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Thank you....you are right on this issue...we are the only service provider in
the Country...we do run FBSD :-)..but our population is only 80,000 hence our
customer base is very small....compared most isps. We are not the PTT which is
C & W :-(...and we go through them and they have only given us one class C.
:-(,...so IP addresses are indeed very precious to me. I have many times
written to arin and also to apnic and due to routing issues and also our small
population we did not qualify for a higher class which meant I had to get IP
addresses from my uplink provider (C& w). When Afrinic (for Africa) is formed I
hope I will stand a better chance to get some IP addresses for us.
I do use NAT for company networks etc and this is normally included on our
lease lines rates....but some dial-up clients require this so the support
people can login or for FTP transfers etc....these are not that many...but I
wanted to get and idea how much to charge them on top of the normal dial-up
tarrifs.:-)
Thanx for all the replies
Rico Pajarola wrote:
> i think the original question was not how to fake static ip's, but how to
> charge for them...
> it depends on how many static ip's they want: if it's a whole block, we
> charge them for filling out the application form for ripe (i think in us
> it's arin, www.arin.net) and the setup of routes, talkin to our backbone
> provider etc.
> If they can't convince ripe to give them a block of ip addresses, because
> they can't justify having a whole block (16 addresses) or because they have
> no real reason at all, we charge them a monthly fee for giving them one of
> *our* precious ip addresses.
>
> --Rico Pajarola
>
> At 19:37 13.09.99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Another way around giving users static ip's would be to write a small
> >dynamic dns daemon that assigns users a host name which is updated when
> >ever a user dials up, this could be done by hacking pppd and writing a
> >small perl/c program that updates a BIND zone file. Of course that could
> >only be done if you used FreeBSD/Linux systems.
> >You could use the naming sceme, username.cust.myisp.net
> >Just a idea,
> >Steven Honson
> >
> >At 11:06 AM 9/13/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >>On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 09:41:17AM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> >>> [.....]
> >>> > When I worked for an ISP, a private subscriber could not be given
> >>> > a fixed IP. If you had a corporate dial-in you could get even blocks
> >>> > of IP##. Of course the price was noticably different. But private
> >>> > customers "doesn't need a fixed IP#" (yes, you may flame me now) ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Of course the ``correct'' thing would be to have the NASs smart
> >>> enough to allow the client to request the IP number that they had
> >>> last time and allocate it if they can. Currently, no NASs that I
> >>> know of are smart enough to do this (except ppp(8) of course!).
> >>
> >>Cisco AS5300 does exactly this. The user doesn't even has to request it,
> >>if the IP number the customer had the last time, is available the
> >>customer gets them same number.
> >>
> >>/Jesper
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager
> >>Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292)
> >>
> >>One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them,
> >>One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them.
> >>
> >>
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> >---------------------------------------
> >Steven Honson
> >Internet Technologist & Consultant
> >Taroona High School, Australia
> >shonson@hubbub.ths.tased.edu.au
> >
> >
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