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Date:      Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:11:27 -0400
From:      "Chad J. Milios" <milios@ccsys.com>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [HEADS-UP] switching default Perl to 5.22
Message-ID:  <AB4C6389-68BB-43AB-88D2-C5C1182E5B39@ccsys.com>
In-Reply-To: <20150828161121.GW2072@kib.kiev.ua>
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> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>=20
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 05:49:30PM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:44:55 +0200 Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org> wrote=
:
>> | +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:34:49 +0200 Mark Martinec
>> | <Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> wrote:
>> || 2015-08-28 17:16, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> ||> +--On 28 ao??t 2015 17:13:34 +0200 Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> wrote=
:
>> ||> |> |> In one or two weeks, I'll be switching the default Perl version=
=20
>> ||> to
>> ||> |> |> 5.22, and from now on, the new Perl will be added at the end of=
=20
>> ||> May
>> ||> |> |> when released, and switched to at the beginning of September.
>> ||> |> |=20
>> ||> |> | mod_perl is still broken with 5.22. Which is very sad. So maybe
>> ||> |> | it's premature to switch the default ?
>> ||> |>=20
>> ||> |> But, it was building when I added Perl 5.22 in May, when did it=20=

>> ||> break ?
>> ||> |=20
>> ||> | ohauer marked it broken on the 9th of June.
>> ||>=20
>> ||> Oh, maybe it did not work and I told myself "never mind, mod_perl nev=
er
>> ||> works anyway"
>> ||=20
>> || The lang/perl5.20 will still be in ports, for anyone that needs it.
>> ||=20
>> || Being heavy Perl users we have switched to 5.22 when it hit the ports,=

>> || and I have no complaints about it.
>> |=20
>> | Oh, yes, Perl 5.20 will still be until 2018-12-31, as will 5.18 until
>> | 2017-12-31 and 5.16 until 2016-12-31 :-)
>>=20
>> Scratch that, remove one year for all those 0:-)
>=20
> There is definitely some acrimony in the 5.22 release.  I only mention
> Canary::Stability/stableperl bitter taste.  The TeXlive tlmgr tripped
> over the cosmetic but annoying regression in 5.22, there were no fix
> some time ago, despite the fact that the bug was known for porters for
> long time, see http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=3D1132751 (the article
> claims that the issue was fixed, I am not sure).
>=20
> Previous policy, even if informal, was to wait for 5.xx.1 before bringing
> the port to the tree.  May be, we should wait for xx.1 before switching
> the default port, at least ?

I second this. I'm using 5.22 happily, however I think bumping the default i=
s premature. I for one appreciate the conservative nature of FreeBSD and don=
't think we should feel compelled to keep up with the Joneses.=



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