From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 00:16:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26809 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from esimene.cynet.net.au (root@esimene.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26804 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:16:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikel@cynet.net.au) From: mikel@cynet.net.au Received: from WARPY (gateway.tns.com.au [203.24.16.48]) by esimene.cynet.net.au (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA02881 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 19:16:10 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199803080816.TAA02881@esimene.cynet.net.au> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 98 19:14:48 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: To IP or not to IP WWW servers X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.40 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With IP space dwindling what are the lists thoughts on using individual IP addresses for each Virtual Web Service host as opposed to "overloading" the single IP address of the VWS server with multiple hostname/domain names? IRTT how has choosing individual IPs versus single IP/multiple VWS impacted on your customer base? Also, at what point do the practical limits start getting reached with aliasing IPs onto the VWS server card, or are they sufficiently high that other issues such as capacity/reliability come into play first? Regards, Mikel -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Mikel Lindsaar | "The dream is the foundation, mikel@cynet.net.au | of our society!" ----------------------------------------------------------- Cynet! The Business ISP! http://www.cynet.net.au/ ----------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 01:02:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02024 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02018 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:02:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA23985; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:01:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 01:01:09 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey To: mikel@cynet.net.au cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: To IP or not to IP WWW servers In-Reply-To: <199803080816.TAA02881@esimene.cynet.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > With IP space dwindling what are the lists thoughts on using individual IP > addresses for each Virtual Web Service host as opposed to "overloading" > the single IP address of the VWS server with multiple hostname/domain > names? IRTT how has choosing individual IPs versus single IP/multiple VWS > impacted on your customer base? > > Also, at what point do the practical limits start getting reached with > aliasing IPs onto the VWS server card, or are they sufficiently high that > other issues such as capacity/reliability come into play first? Well.. the only downside to not using one IP per domain, is certain browsers will not work. Now, if you have a web page(s) that can only be read by a certain browser, say you need Netscape 4 or IE4 it probably wouldnt matter much. But we use one IP per domain, even though probably 90% of the browsers are Netscape, with the rest mostly IE. This is the usage we are seeing, that was not a comment on Netscape market share! :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 02:54:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA10111 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10106 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:54:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA26880; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:54:00 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:53:59 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: mikel@cynet.net.au cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: To IP or not to IP WWW servers In-Reply-To: <199803080816.TAA02881@esimene.cynet.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Mikel, On Sun, 8 Mar 1998 mikel@cynet.net.au wrote: > With IP space dwindling what are the lists thoughts on using individual IP IP address space is not dwindling as much as people think. As far as class C address allocations go, we are about 2/3 of the way through the address space 192-223. However, large ISPs are being allocated class A networks for subdivision, and the real problem is routing table management, whereby ISPs don't adequately aggregate the networks they advertise. In Australia the problem was magnified by the policy of AARnet to allocate IPs to anyone who requested until last year, when it suddenly became impossible for even small ISPs to get addresses. If you want to do virtual ftp or telnet, you *must* use IPs. If you intend having lots of web servers, get a netblock from your upstream ISP (Connect.com.au, I believe) > Also, at what point do the practical limits start getting reached with > aliasing IPs onto the VWS server card, or are they sufficiently high that > other issues such as capacity/reliability come into play first? If you are putting lots of web servers on, you would do better to put the /24 or more onto lo0 and treat the web server machine's ethernet IP address as the gateway to the web network. A couple of years ago someone tested FreeBSD 2.0.5 with 5000 IP addresses with no ill effects. After that it got too boring an exercise for them to continue. Cheers, Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 08:48:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13663 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:48:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13658 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:48:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbws.vastnet.net (port56.netsvr1.cst.vastnet.net [207.252.73.56]) by etinc.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA03667; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:56:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980308114858.006f4934@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 11:49:01 -0500 To: mikel@cynet.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: To IP or not to IP WWW servers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:14 PM 3/8/98 +1000, mikel@cynet.net.au wrote: >With IP space dwindling what are the lists thoughts on using individual IP >addresses for each Virtual Web Service host as opposed to "overloading" >the single IP address of the VWS server with multiple hostname/domain >names? IRTT how has choosing individual IPs versus single IP/multiple VWS >impacted on your customer base? > >Also, at what point do the practical limits start getting reached with >aliasing IPs onto the VWS server card, or are they sufficiently high that >other issues such as capacity/reliability come into play first? You may have trouble doing traffic management with virtual web service as most of the limitation products on the market (including ours) work on IP addresses. db To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 09:08:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15889 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15731 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 09:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id KAA23102; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:07:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05838; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:04:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:04:02 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko To: Scot Elliott cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Process sizes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Scot Elliott wrote: > Hi. I know this probably belongs to a more general group but Im not sure > where.... > > I just installed PHP v3 on our web server. Now the apache binary is over > twice what it was before - fair enough because it's got a lot of extra > code, right. The question I have, is weather the OS is clever enough to > only have one copy of all this code in memory, of whether each apache > process that is running has its own copy - in which case I'll have to > consider upgrading the RAM in the machine. I realise that shared > libraries only have one coy in memory but I just can't find anything that > tells me how FreeBSD copes with shared code segments. Yes, there will only be one copy of most of the code and text pages in memory. There are several methods at work here to allow this. One of them is copy on write page mappings; what this means is that when a fork() is done from the parent process, most pages are marked so that they reference the same physical memory unless someone tries to write to them, then they get their own memory. With Apache, you end up having most of the child pages marked COW. There isn't any nice way to figure out exactly how much physical memory each cihld is using. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 20:30:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21076 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA21042; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from pencil-box.village.org [10.0.0.22] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yBu8O-0005JU-00; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:25:52 -0700 Received: from pencil-box.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil-box.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA01605; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:51:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803061551.IAA01605@pencil-box.village.org> To: Tomasz Zin Subject: Re: Streamer Iomega Ditto 2GB Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:10:17 +0100." References: Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 08:51:17 -0700 From: "M. Warner Losh" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Tomasz Zin writes: : Does support FreeBSD streamer Iomega Ditto 2GB? : This is "floppy type". No specific support for this is in the ft driver. the ft driver, alas, is badly bitrotted and people have reported problems with it. It might work, it might not. IDE tape drives have some preliminary support in the kernel, thanks to Soeren Schmidt. Given their price ($169 for a 4G Travan IDE drive from www.corpsys.com), they are very competitive to the Dittos in terms of cost. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 8 21:36:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04739 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:36:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from daffy.sna.com (daffy.sna.com [204.119.128.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04714 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:36:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@sna.com) Received: from sna.com (bsd.sna.com [204.119.141.41]) by daffy.sna.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18763 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:36:14 -0800 (PST) X-Real-To: Message-ID: <35042773.2565FD60@sna.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:31:31 -0800 From: Sergo Panfilov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSDI or FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I am starting an ISP and would like to know should I go with FreeBSD or BSDI 3. Which one is more stable and easiest to configure? Are there more software and hardware compatible with BSDI then FreeBSD? And what are main differences between them besides price? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 03:04:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20388 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20352 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:04:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA21965; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:06:03 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:06:03 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISPs in Sweden Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a customer who visits Sweden regularly and has problems getting online. Could a Swedish ISP (oe even just a helpful person) please email me so I can discuss the problem with them. Thanks, Danny /* Daniel O'Callaghan */ /* HiLink Internet danny@hilink.com.au */ /* FreeBSD - works hard, plays hard... danny@freebsd.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 03:43:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24592 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:43:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Jupiter.internal.planet-three.com (host5-99-52-130.btinternet.com [195.99.52.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24584 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@internal.planet-three.com) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by Jupiter.internal.planet-three.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01087; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:42:54 GMT (envelope-from scot@internal.planet-three.com) X-Authentication-Warning: Jupiter.internal.planet-three.com: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:42:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: Sergo Panfilov cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSDI or FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <35042773.2565FD60@sna.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The main reason people tend to choose BSDI is because corporations tend to like commercial software. They don't seem to realise that mailing lists like this exist and work as well as they do. This probably isn't the place to find a well balanced opinion ;-) When it comes to configuration, FreeBSD seems much nicer - BSDI's install doesn't have as many options. Another big argument for FreeBSD is that is ships on what is now 4 CDs - full of source code for the O/S and binaries for just about every other software package you're likely to need. BSDI kinda falls short here. However, there are more commercial packages available for BSDI - but most of those run on FreeBSD anyway, although of course you'd have trouble getting support from the vendors then. Good luck Scot. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Sergo Panfilov wrote: > Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:31:31 -0800 > From: Sergo Panfilov > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: BSDI or FreeBSD > > Hi. > > I am starting an ISP and would like to know should I go with FreeBSD or > BSDI 3. Which one is more stable and easiest to configure? Are there > more software and hardware compatible with BSDI then FreeBSD? And what > are main differences between them besides price? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 08:15:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05652 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:15:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05645 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA11287; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Julian Elischer cc: Dru Nelson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wd(0,a) I tried running /stand/sysinstall and rewriting the boot track but that still didn't work (assuming I did it right, its not as if it tells you it was done). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Julian Elischer wrote: :teh first thing needed to answer this question is: :what do you need to type in to make it boot? : : :On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Dru Nelson wrote: : :> :> On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: :> :> > The last moron who configured several of our servers didn't know how to :> > set them up properly to boot automatically; it just says "boot: " several :> > times. I've recompiled the kernel to put wd0 as the boot drive, and ran :> > disklabel -B wd0, but that didn't rewrite anything. What are the steps to :> > re-installing the bootstrap code properly so this thing will boot up? : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 08:24:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06653 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:24:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06628 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA11256; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:14:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:14:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Dru Nelson cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I work for an ISP, and this is an ISP's server. Problem with that? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Dru Nelson wrote: : :Is this an ISP question? : :On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: : :> The last moron who configured several of our servers didn't know how to :> set them up properly to boot automatically; it just says "boot: " several :> times. I've recompiled the kernel to put wd0 as the boot drive, and ran :> disklabel -B wd0, but that didn't rewrite anything. What are the steps to :> re-installing the bootstrap code properly so this thing will boot up? :> :> :> :> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- :> Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated :> Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 :> jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 :> http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL :> ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> :> :> :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message :> : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 09:29:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15957 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:29:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15949 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:29:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA03487 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:23:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:23:05 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199803091723.MAA03487@ns1.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bind question Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? This question could also apply to secondaries... can you just initiate an update of one domain? Seems pretty wasteful to have to reload _everything_ just to update one... -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 09:37:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17454 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:37:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [193.230.201.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17438 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00684 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:51 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Quantum Fireball SE ? Your (other) choices ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Well, as the subject says, I'm looking for some opinions on Quantum's Fireball SE (8.4 Gb version) -- it's on my shopping list for our FreeBSD server and wondered if I have a good choice, the price seems quite nice at $57/Gb, that's $479 for the whole thing. I have big plans for it, it's supposed to cooperate with a PCI AHA 2940UA controller and sustain all server activity, meaning news, squid-cache, WWW space, FTP mirrors & such. And while I'm at this: what are your conclusions regarding use of multiple harddisks w/ or w/o CCD rather than a big one ? What kind of SCSI HDD would you choose for this ? Thank you all Ady (@warpnet.ro) Warp Net Technologies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 09:49:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19568 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19543 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:49:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA14570; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:48:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Penisoara Adrian cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quantum Fireball SE ? Your (other) choices ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've had slightly better performance out of a Seagate Baracuda. They're around the same price. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Penisoara Adrian wrote: :Hi, : : Well, as the subject says, I'm looking for some opinions on Quantum's :Fireball SE (8.4 Gb version) -- it's on my shopping list for our FreeBSD :server and wondered if I have a good choice, the price seems quite nice at :$57/Gb, that's $479 for the whole thing. I have big plans for it, it's :supposed to cooperate with a PCI AHA 2940UA controller and sustain all :server activity, meaning news, squid-cache, WWW space, FTP mirrors & such. : : And while I'm at this: what are your conclusions regarding use of :multiple harddisks w/ or w/o CCD rather than a big one ? What kind of :SCSI HDD would you choose for this ? : : : Thank you all : Ady (@warpnet.ro) : Warp Net Technologies : : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 09:53:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20288 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20265 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA06437; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:53:11 GMT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:53:10 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Steve Ames cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bind question In-Reply-To: <199803091723.MAA03487@ns1.cioe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Steve Ames wrote: > I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime > I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). > > Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? Take a look at http://www.isc.org The latest bind has/will have dynamic zone updates. I don't need it so I haven't been following the progress closely. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 10:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25259 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:18:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25207 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21563 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installboot (was Re: Boot) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > wd(0,a) > > I tried running /stand/sysinstall and rewriting the boot track but that > still didn't work (assuming I did it right, its not as if it tells you it > was done). This, I think is an important question to ISPs and anyone else heavily using FreeBSD. When I needed to do this on SunOS4.1.x, I just booted off CD or as a diskless client, mounted /usr and ran "installboot" with the appropriate args. Worked like a champ. I have yet to find a parallel to this for FreeBSD. But then, on SunOS we didn't have any possibly tricky boot managers to consider. Anyone know the magic incantation, assuming one exitst? ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 10:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26134 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26065 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:24:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA21726 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bind question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Dan Busarow wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Steve Ames wrote: > > I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime > > I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). > > > > Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? > > Take a look at http://www.isc.org > > The latest bind has/will have dynamic zone updates. I don't need > it so I haven't been following the progress closely. > > Dan kill -HUP `cat /var/run/named.pid` ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 10:24:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26147 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:24:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26034 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 5748 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Mar 1998 18:26:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, it isn't really an 'ISP' question. I think that booting is best handled in the other lists. I like the low noise on this list. Topics such as radius, how to manage a password file of over 5000 users, to Frontpage Extend or not to, which serial card, which quad port ether card, etc. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > I work for an ISP, and this is an ISP's server. Problem with that? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated > Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 > jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 > http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL > ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> > > On Sat, 7 Mar 1998, Dru Nelson wrote: > > : > :Is this an ISP question? > : > :On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > : > :> The last moron who configured several of our servers didn't know how to > :> set them up properly to boot automatically; it just says "boot: " several > :> times. I've recompiled the kernel to put wd0 as the boot drive, and ran > :> disklabel -B wd0, but that didn't rewrite anything. What are the steps to > :> re-installing the bootstrap code properly so this thing will boot up? > :> > :> > :> > :> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > :> Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated > :> Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 > :> jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 > :> http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL > :> ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> > :> > :> > :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > :> > : > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 13:55:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09007 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:55:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.cioe.com (news.cioe.com [204.248.219.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08982 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@news.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by news.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA05642; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:55:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Ames Message-Id: <199803092155.QAA05642@news.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jeff@mercury.jorsm.com Subject: Re: bind question Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime > > > I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). > > > > > > Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? > > > > Take a look at http://www.isc.org > > > > The latest bind has/will have dynamic zone updates. I don't need > > it so I haven't been following the progress closely. > > > kill -HUP `cat /var/run/named.pid` Causes a complete reload. Doesn't restart the binary or dump the cache (i think) but does cause every file to be reloaded and secondaries to be re-transferred. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 15:26:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27926 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:26:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (tweetie-pipex.online.barbour-index.co.uk [194.129.192.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27868 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01268; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:25:22 GMT (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:25:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: Jeff Lynch cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installboot (was Re: Boot) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've had no end of trouble getting new installs of FreeBSD to install. The trick I usually use now is to make sure a 20M or so DOS partition exists on the boot drive before I install. It's apparantly something to do with the install not guessing the geometry of the disks properly. And it's always useful to have a DOS partition to store all the config stuff for cards in the machine. Of course you need to buy a DOS licence for each machine then :) Hope that helps Scot. On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jeff Lynch wrote: > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:16 -0600 (CST) > From: Jeff Lynch > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: installboot (was Re: Boot) > > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > > wd(0,a) > > > > I tried running /stand/sysinstall and rewriting the boot track but that > > still didn't work (assuming I did it right, its not as if it tells you it > > was done). > > This, I think is an important question to ISPs and anyone else > heavily using FreeBSD. When I needed to do this on SunOS4.1.x, > I just booted off CD or as a diskless client, mounted /usr > and ran "installboot" with the appropriate args. Worked like > a champ. I have yet to find a parallel to this for FreeBSD. > But then, on SunOS we didn't have any possibly tricky boot managers > to consider. Anyone know the magic incantation, assuming one exitst? > > ========================================================================= > Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet > email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider > Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)171 7046777 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 17:05:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21096 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21025; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:05:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@devnull.ruhr.de) Received: (from admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5) with UUCP id BAA19847; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:11:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from rm.devnull.ruhr.de [192.168.22.75] by devnull.ruhr.de with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yC88X-0000wW-00; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:22:57 +0100 Received: from bs by rm.devnull.ruhr.de with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yC8HY-0000rt-00; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:32:16 +0100 To: Andreas Klemm Cc: ache@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bugfix procmail port and discussion about general MAILSPOOLHOME var. References: <19980307152418.16939@klemm.gtn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benedikt Stockebrand Date: 09 Mar 1998 20:32:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: Andreas Klemm's message of "Sat, 7 Mar 1998 15:24:18 +0100" Message-ID: <87pvjvpsn4.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andreas Klemm writes: > Another thing, many ISP's use procmail's ability, to store > users mails into their home directory ($HOME/.mail). So why wouldn't you want to use procmail? > Perhaps one should make a note, that then the MUA has to be > aware of the MAIL envireonment variable or pop server have to be > patched, too look for the users mailbox in $HOME/.mail/loginname. I'm not sure if I understand the security implications of this approach. However, the local mail delivery programs are usually setuid root or something and may rely on the fact that users can't create files in /var/mail. If you really want to do this you'll have to fix them so that they check for symlink attacks (like symlinking ~/.mail/loginname to /etc/master.passwd and then sending themselves a msg containing a line "toot::0:0::0:0:Charlie \&:/root:/bin/csh") and whatever else comes to the naughty mind. That's not impossible but somewhat error-prone. If procmail already provides such a feature it seems more reasonable to use it instead. So long, Ben -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand --- Un*x system administrator looking for a job To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 19:42:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24773 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:42:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fly.com (fly.com [192.147.46.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24763 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyb@fly.com) Received: from localhost (garyb@localhost) by fly.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01036 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:08 -1000 (HST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:08 -1000 (HST) From: "Gary B." To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Enabling core files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know the way to enable system coredumps under FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE (presumably using limits?) so the system can generate corefiles for processes that are launched from inetd? -Gary -- garyb@fly.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 19:48:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25541 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25531 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA11517; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:47:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: Dru Nelson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Mar 1998 11:14:22 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: <11513.889501624@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" wrote in message ID : > I work for an ISP, and this is an ISP's server. Problem with that? FreeBSD-ISP is for more ISP centric issues (radius, tacacs, BGP, etc), while there are other mailing lists for other issues. While I personally do not object to mis-posted questions (unless the said poster puts them to EVERY list I read), you may have better luck finding answers if you send the question to a list more appropriate for the content. As ever, YMMV. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 9 21:17:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14358 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:17:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (root@dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14344 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:17:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03811; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <3504CCB9.64DECC20@dal.net> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:16:41 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE-0308 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Ames CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bind question References: <199803091723.MAA03487@ns1.cioe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Ames wrote: > > I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime > I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). > > Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? No. > This question could also apply to secondaries... can you just > initiate an update of one domain? Errr... if it's a secondary, why would you want to reload it manually. Why not just let it update, or better yet use BIND 8.1.1 on both servers and activate the notify option? > Seems pretty wasteful to have to reload _everything_ just to update > one... Well, it depends on your perspective. If there is a problem with the load on the primary when it's being reloaded, there are ways around that but it involves setting up a seperate server to act as the primary and feeding the updates downstream with BIND 8.1.1's notify. Otherwise, if it's not a strain on the primary don't worry about it. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 02:24:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01688 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:24:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01522 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14195; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:24:39 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:24:38 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Jeff Lynch cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installboot (was Re: Boot) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jeff Lynch wrote: > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > > wd(0,a) > > > > I tried running /stand/sysinstall and rewriting the boot track but that > > still didn't work (assuming I did it right, its not as if it tells you it > > was done). > > This, I think is an important question to ISPs and anyone else > heavily using FreeBSD. When I needed to do this on SunOS4.1.x, > I just booted off CD or as a diskless client, mounted /usr > and ran "installboot" with the appropriate args. Worked like > a champ. I have yet to find a parallel to this for FreeBSD. > But then, on SunOS we didn't have any possibly tricky boot managers > to consider. Anyone know the magic incantation, assuming one exitst? Hmmm... And what's wrong with: disklabel -Brw wd0 auto or any other incantation including 'disklabel' ? :-) You could even write an 'installboot' script to feel comfortable: ------------------------------- #!/bin/sh disklabel -Brw $1 auto ------------------------------- Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 07:14:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07703 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roguetrader.com (cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07688; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brandon@roguetrader.com) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by roguetrader.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA27981; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:14:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:14:37 -0700 (MST) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Throttle back an ethernet port to 56k? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just curious, I have a need to setup a FreeBSD box as a router, but I need to throttle the bandwidth to only transfer a max of 56k at a time--but keep the latencies as they are. Any way to do this? -Brandon Gillespie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 08:20:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19865 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19848 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA10378; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Andrzej Bialecki cc: Jeff Lynch , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installboot (was Re: Boot) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tried this and got: disklabel: ioctl DIOCSDINFO: Open partition would move or shrink ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan A. Zdziarski NetRail Incorporated Systems Administrator 230 Peachtree St. Suite 1550 jonz@netrail.net Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.netrail.net (888) - NETRAIL ----------------------------------------------------------------------><> On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: :On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jeff Lynch wrote: : :> On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: :> :> > wd(0,a) :> > :> > I tried running /stand/sysinstall and rewriting the boot track but that :> > still didn't work (assuming I did it right, its not as if it tells you it :> > was done). :> :> This, I think is an important question to ISPs and anyone else :> heavily using FreeBSD. When I needed to do this on SunOS4.1.x, :> I just booted off CD or as a diskless client, mounted /usr :> and ran "installboot" with the appropriate args. Worked like :> a champ. I have yet to find a parallel to this for FreeBSD. :> But then, on SunOS we didn't have any possibly tricky boot managers :> to consider. Anyone know the magic incantation, assuming one exitst? : :Hmmm... And what's wrong with: : disklabel -Brw wd0 auto : :or any other incantation including 'disklabel' ? :-) You could even write :an 'installboot' script to feel comfortable: : :------------------------------- :#!/bin/sh : : disklabel -Brw $1 auto :------------------------------- : :Andrzej Bialecki : :---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- :abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } :Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." :Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. :---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- : : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 08:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21427 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:31:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xpert.com (xpert.com [199.203.132.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21393 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@xpert.com) Received: from localhost (yuri@localhost) by xpert.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00820 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:30:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:30:03 +0200 (IST) From: Yuri Gindin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: nat and real audio. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I tryed to run realaudio on the computer which runs behind the gateway FreeBSD with nat. It doesn't work. Is it supposed to work with nat or not, if yes what are the options for nat I must give ? Or I must use socks for this ? Best regards, --Yuri Gindin Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. Work phone: +972-3-6181118 Mobile phone: +972-50-982113 Home phone: +972-3-6735883 PGP Key fingerprint = 5D 56 0B 88 F1 51 4B F7 52 FE 62 28 76 0A 18 77 PGP public key available via http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/pks-commands.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 08:43:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23965 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:43:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23954 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:43:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08898; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:43:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:43:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Steven Ames cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bind question In-Reply-To: <199803092155.QAA05642@news.cioe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Steven Ames wrote: > > > > I have a server that serves as primary for a lot of domains. Everytime > > > > I update any of those domains I have to reload everything (ndc reload). > > > > > > > > Is there a way to tell bind to just update one domain? > > > > > > Take a look at http://www.isc.org > > > > > > The latest bind has/will have dynamic zone updates. I don't need > > > it so I haven't been following the progress closely. > > > > > kill -HUP `cat /var/run/named.pid` > > Causes a complete reload. Doesn't restart the binary or dump > the cache (i think) but does cause every file to be reloaded and > secondaries to be re-transferred. > > -Steve Depends on compile-time option. I only check serial numbers at SOA intervals >From named man page: SIGHUP Causes server to read named.boot and reload the database. If the server is built with the FORCED_RELOAD compile-time option, then SIGHUP will also cause the server to check the serial number on all secondary zones. Normally the serial numbers are only checked at the SOA-specified intervals. --jeff ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 08:48:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24889 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:48:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.cioe.com (news.cioe.com [204.248.219.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24857 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:47:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@news.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by news.cioe.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA04130; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:47:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:47:22 -0500 (EST) From: Steven Ames Message-Id: <199803101647.LAA04130@news.cioe.com> To: jeff@mercury.jorsm.com, steve@news.cioe.com Subject: Re: bind question Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Depends on compile-time option. I only check serial numbers at > SOA intervals > > >From named man page: > > SIGHUP Causes server to read named.boot and reload the > database. If the server is built with the > FORCED_RELOAD compile-time option, then SIGHUP will > also cause the server to check the serial number on > all secondary zones. Normally the serial numbers > are only checked at the SOA-specified intervals. Gotcha. That didn't click at the time... thanks. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 09:11:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29293 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:11:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29276 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA12580 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:11:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: KerberOS/Crack Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible to run crack on a kerberos database? We've found several of our engineers using stupid, insecure passwords. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 10:49:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23454 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:49:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.exis.net (root@marlin.exis.net [205.252.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23347 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:48:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@exis.net) Received: from sailfish.exis.net (stefan@sailfish.exis.net [205.252.72.104]) by marlin.exis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20512; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:48:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:48:08 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Yuri Gindin cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nat and real audio. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > I tryed to run realaudio on the computer which runs behind > the gateway FreeBSD with nat. It doesn't work. Is it supposed to > work with nat or not, if yes what are the options for nat I must give ? > Or I must use socks for this ? What version of FreeBSD are you using. I am using natd on my 2.2.5 REL and it works just fine. If you follow the natd man page it whouls work. Stefan Molnar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 12:13:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14031 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:13:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (root@marlin.corp.gulf.net [198.69.72.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13984 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:13:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (tbackman@marlin.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.2]) by marlin.corp.gulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16815 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:11:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:11:13 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Backman To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RISCom/N2dds Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone have any pointers regarding setting up a RISCom/N2dds card with 2.2.5? According to the docs I need "sppp"? Any help would be helpful. TIA! ===================================================================== Todd Backman (tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Dial-Up Access Support Team Leader Systems/POP Administration Gulf Coast Internet Company 1-800-444-INET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 12:47:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22256 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:47:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22216 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA25950; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:46:26 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803102046.WAA25950@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: RISCom/N2dds In-Reply-To: from Todd Backman at "Mar 10, 98 02:11:13 pm" To: tbackman@corp.gulf.net (Todd Backman) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:46:26 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Anyone have any pointers regarding setting up a RISCom/N2dds card with > 2.2.5? According to the docs I need "sppp"? Any help would be helpful. > TIA! > Just add "pseudo-device sppp" to your kernel config file and rebuild your kernel. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 15:59:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04695 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.walls-media.com (ns1.walls-media.com [12.6.113.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04673 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryanb@walls-media.com) Received: from ntwksbry ([12.6.113.54]) by ns1.walls-media.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with SMTP id AAA201 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:58:37 -0600 Message-ID: <003301bd4c80$8d66eea0$3671060c@ntwksbry.walls-media.com> From: "Bryan Bunch" To: Subject: Apache Modules Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:59:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When trying to add the mod_fastcgi.c module I copy the file to my apache src dir, add the appropriate line to my Configuration file (Module fastcgi_module mod_fastcgi.o), run ./Configure, then I get an error when I type make: ================= gcc -c -O2 mod_fastcgi.c mod_fastcgi.c:701: redefinition of `Sigfunc' conf.h:647: `Sigfunc' previously declared here *** Error code 1 Stop. ================= Any help would be appreciated. Software: FreeBSD 2.2.2 Apache 1.2.5 Bryan bryanb@walls-media.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 16:32:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09262 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (tweetie-pipex.online.barbour-index.co.uk [194.129.192.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09187 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:32:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA02828; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:05 GMT (envelope-from scot@online.barbour-index.co.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: tweetie.online.barbour-index.co.uk: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KerberOS/Crack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you tried exporting the database to a text file and making a password-esque file out of the password field? I haven't tried it but I suspect that's the easiest way to do it. Scot. On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:11:31 -0500 (EST) > From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: KerberOS/Crack > > Is it possible to run crack on a kerberos database? We've found > several of our engineers using stupid, insecure passwords. > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org) | Work: +44 (0)171 7046777 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 17:27:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20567 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from npc.haplink.com.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20497 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xiyuan@npc.haplink.com.cn) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.com.cn (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08115 for isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:06:49 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:06:49 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199803110906.JAA08115@npc.haplink.com.cn> To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Off-Topic: WinNT mail-list Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Could you please tell me where I can join a WinNT mail-list just like the isp-freebsd list? --xiyuan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 20:09:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09534 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:09:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rustbelt.COM (rustbelt.com [156.46.92.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09527 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by rustbelt.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA22281; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:12:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from luthien-22.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.67.150) by rustbelt.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022278; Tue Mar 10 22:12:45 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980310220753.0072f000@156.46.92.70> X-Sender: jeff-ml@156.46.92.70 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:07:53 -0600 To: "John S. Dyson" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: MFS? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803050134.UAA03347@dyson.iquest.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:34 PM 3/4/98 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >Jonathan A. Zdziarski said: >> >> Does freebsd support a memory filesystem? I wasn't sure cuz I don't see a >> kernel option for it. >> >Yes, MFS. It will overflow onto swap if needed. I've been wondering if there is a size limit to MFS, besides the total amount of physical memory. :) Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 10 21:34:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18941 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:34:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy.unpar.ac.id (proxy.unpar.ac.id [167.205.206.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18903 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 1193016@student.unpar.ac.id) Received: from student.unpar.ac.id (210student.unpar.ac.id [10.210.1.3]) by proxy.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12572; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:08:42 +0700 (JAVT) Received: from localhost (1193016@localhost) by student.unpar.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5.D) with SMTP id MAA20694; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:33:28 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:33:28 +0700 (JAVT) From: Thomas Wahyudi <1193016@student.unpar.ac.id> To: Yuri Gindin cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nat and real audio. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Yuri Gindin wrote: >Hi, >I tryed to run realaudio on the computer which runs behind >the gateway FreeBSD with nat. It doesn't work. Is it supposed to >work with nat or not, if yes what are the options for nat I must give ? >Or I must use socks for this ? do you use firewall and not real IP [such as 10.x.x.x] ? if you do, then you must install raproxy Best regard, from #### # Thomas Wahyudi # # # # 1193016@student.unpar.ac.id # ## ## http://student.unpar.ac.id/~1193016 -=-=-=-=-=PARAHYANGAN UNIVERSITY=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 01:09:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12426 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:09:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12414 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:09:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01142 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:48:59 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <34FD69DB.5B2D7C25@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:48:59 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fedup with Dumps & NC... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, All I want to be able to do is the following: machine-a> dump tuaf - /usr2 | nc -w 20 machine-b 4000 then on Machine B, machine-b> nc -l -w 20 -p 4000 >/dev/nrst0 And backup Machine A onto Machine B, with as little fuss as possible, i.e. no amanda, no rmt etc... This 'appears' to work, until you try a restore - at which point you get messages such as: machine-b> restore tf /dev/nrst0 Tape block size (1440) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) machine-b> restore tf /dev/nrst0 Tape block size (1648) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) etc. Am I right in thinking this is a re-blocking issue? - if so, is there any way to cure it, or a better way of using the default (i.e. standard BSD stuff) to backup a remote machine, without going to the trouble of setting up 'trust' relationships etc. with rmt ? Any help - as usual, gratefully received... Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 07:00:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21062 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21056 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) Received: from localhost (zoonie@localhost) by nak.myhouse.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01539; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from zoonie@myhouse.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nak.myhouse.com: zoonie owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: Karl Pielorz cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fedup with Dumps & NC... In-Reply-To: <34FD69DB.5B2D7C25@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org why don't you look at AMANDA? On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Hi All, > > All I want to be able to do is the following: > > > machine-a> dump tuaf - /usr2 | nc -w 20 machine-b 4000 > > then on Machine B, > > machine-b> nc -l -w 20 -p 4000 >/dev/nrst0 > > > And backup Machine A onto Machine B, with as little fuss as possible, i.e. no > amanda, no rmt etc... > > This 'appears' to work, until you try a restore - at which point you get > messages such as: > > machine-b> restore tf /dev/nrst0 > Tape block size (1440) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) > > machine-b> restore tf /dev/nrst0 > Tape block size (1648) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) > > etc. > > > Am I right in thinking this is a re-blocking issue? - if so, is there any way > to cure it, or a better way of using the default (i.e. standard BSD stuff) to > backup a remote machine, without going to the trouble of setting up 'trust' > relationships etc. with rmt ? > > Any help - as usual, gratefully received... > > Regards, > > Karl Pielorz > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 07:02:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21295 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21289 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02256; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:02:17 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3506A779.3AE795C9@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:02:17 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zoonie CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fedup with Dumps & NC... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have looked at Amanda, and it's really a bit over the top for what we want... I just want to kick data at a tape, and then be able to put it back on a FreeBSD box (hopefuly without installing any packages / ports etc. :-) Kp zoonie wrote: > > why don't you look at AMANDA? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 10:54:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05305 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:54:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05250; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:54:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22377; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:54:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: off topic question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this is off topic - and you all may smack me if you like but Ive spent the entire day tryng to get the answer to this and have failed so far. I have ascend 4048s - I want to config them to do either regular ISDn or DOV (data over voice) Anyone done this or know where instructions are? Again Im sorry for the inappropriateness of this post to these list. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 12:05:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27450 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27389 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:05:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyson@iquest.net) From: dyson@iquest.net Received: (qmail 25022 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1998 20:05:32 -0000 Received: from iquest7.iquest.net (206.53.230.110) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 11 Mar 1998 20:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 20121 invoked by uid 4420); 11 Mar 1998 20:05:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19980311200532.20119.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Subject: Re: MFS? To: jeff-ml@mountin.net (Jeffrey J. Mountin) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:05:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980310220753.0072f000@156.46.92.70> from "Jeffrey J. Mountin" at Mar 10, 98 10:07:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > At 08:34 PM 3/4/98 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: > >Jonathan A. Zdziarski said: > >> > >> Does freebsd support a memory filesystem? I wasn't sure cuz I don't see a > >> kernel option for it. > >> > >Yes, MFS. It will overflow onto swap if needed. > > I've been wondering if there is a size limit to MFS, besides the total amount of physical memory. :) > The size of swap. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 14:40:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29150 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29115 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06767 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:52:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:52:13 -0500 (EST) From: Dev To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Runaway web server. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a freebsd 2.2.5 server w/96 megs of ram running 13 instances of apache. (each spawning about 5-10 children). it seems something triggers _all_ of the servers to become in the run state. about 4 or 5 children seem to be using about 8 mb of ram. it is very hard to actually kill the processes. (not just from lag, but the process not dying after being sent a kill signal). when trying to kill the session leader it does not seem to die. The servers get stuck in a "waiting for reply" state and never seem to respond. This server has been up for over 40 days running fine. We have finally rebooted the machine, and after about four hours it happened again. Anyone have any suggestions? Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 15:05:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03070 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:05:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03061 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:05:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA18688; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:53 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199803112304.RAA18688@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Runaway web server. In-Reply-To: from Dev at "Mar 11, 98 05:52:13 pm" To: dev@wopr.inetu.net (Dev) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:53 -0600 (CST) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > We have a freebsd 2.2.5 server w/96 megs of ram > running 13 instances of apache. (each spawning > about 5-10 children). > > it seems something triggers _all_ of the servers > to become in the run state. about 4 or 5 children > seem to be using about 8 mb of ram. it is very > hard to actually kill the processes. (not just > from lag, but the process not dying after being > sent a kill signal). > > when trying to kill the session leader it does not > seem to die. > > The servers get stuck in a "waiting for reply" > state and never seem to respond. This server has > been up for over 40 days running fine. > > We have finally rebooted the machine, and after > about four hours it happened again. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > Is this a somewhat old version of apache? If so, someone's exploiting a bug... adding a ton of /'s in a URL will cause apache to come to a crawl... Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 15:08:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03534 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@NS.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03511 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@radford.i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16329; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <04de01bd4d43$23a7f7c0$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "Steve Hovey" Cc: Subject: Re: off topic question Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:12:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mail: ascend-users-request@bungi.com body: subscribe To answer your question, the 4048 is ISDN ready. All of mine worked as soon as I brought them up. No extra configuration was needed. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-plus.net -----Original Message----- From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 2:01 PM Subject: off topic question > >I know this is off topic - and you all may smack me if you like but Ive >spent the entire day tryng to get the answer to this and have failed so >far. > >I have ascend 4048s - I want to config them to do either regular ISDn or >DOV (data over voice) Anyone done this or know where instructions are? > >Again Im sorry for the inappropriateness of this post to these list. > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Steve Hovey >Chief Engineer >BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 15:10:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04193 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@NS.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04048 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@radford.i-plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16377; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:09:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <04f701bd4d43$52b8eb00$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "xiyuan qian" , Subject: Re: Off-Topic: WinNT mail-list Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:13:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org check out www.isp-resource.com there's several links to various mailing lists there. (Lots of other useful information as well) -----Original Message----- From: xiyuan qian To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:32 PM Subject: Off-Topic: WinNT mail-list >Hi, Could you please tell me where I can join a WinNT mail-list just like >the isp-freebsd list? > >--xiyuan > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 17:04:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23011 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rustbelt.COM (rustbelt.com [156.46.92.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22997 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by rustbelt.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA00854; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:07:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from callufrax-13.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.65.204) by rustbelt.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000852; Wed Mar 11 19:07:37 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980311190315.00752e34@156.46.92.70> X-Sender: jeff-ml@156.46.92.70 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:03:15 -0600 To: Kevin Day , dev@wopr.inetu.net (Dev) From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Runaway web server. Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199803112304.RAA18688@home.dragondata.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:04 PM 3/11/98 -0600, Kevin Day wrote: >> >> We have a freebsd 2.2.5 server w/96 megs of ram >> running 13 instances of apache. (each spawning >> about 5-10 children). >> >> it seems something triggers _all_ of the servers >> to become in the run state. about 4 or 5 children >> seem to be using about 8 mb of ram. it is very >> hard to actually kill the processes. (not just >> from lag, but the process not dying after being >> sent a kill signal). >> >> when trying to kill the session leader it does not >> seem to die. >> >> The servers get stuck in a "waiting for reply" >> state and never seem to respond. This server has >> been up for over 40 days running fine. >> >> We have finally rebooted the machine, and after >> about four hours it happened again. >> >> Anyone have any suggestions? >> > >Is this a somewhat old version of apache? I've gotten 2 runaway children on 2.2.5 with both Apache 1.2.4 and 1.2.5 so far and both are the only instances I've ever encountered in over 10 years of server time on various servers. >If so, someone's exploiting a bug... adding a ton of /'s in a URL will >cause apache to come to a crawl... In either case there was nothing suspicious/malicious in the logs around the time of the runaways, but someone did try to exploit a bug of 1.2.4 (or earlier?) with an invalid URL that was _really_ long, which didn't work. :) At least this was only one child process on 2 different occasions, but considering how far both FBSD and Apache have come, it bothers me somewhat and now someone else has a more serious problem. Have to like the reliability of FBSD and Apache, but am starting to wonder. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 17:15:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24877 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rustbelt.COM (rustbelt.com [156.46.92.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24868 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:15:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by rustbelt.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA00897; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:19:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from callufrax-13.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.65.204) by rustbelt.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000887; Wed Mar 11 19:19:01 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980311191439.00756268@156.46.92.70> X-Sender: jeff-ml@156.46.92.70 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:14:39 -0600 To: Steve Hovey From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: off topic question Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:54 PM 3/11/98 -0500, Steve Hovey wrote: > >I know this is off topic - and you all may smack me if you like but Ive >spent the entire day tryng to get the answer to this and have failed so >far. > >I have ascend 4048s - I want to config them to do either regular ISDn or >DOV (data over voice) Anyone done this or know where instructions are? Not 100% certain but DOV should work with any ISDN PRI, since it is still a _data_ call. The client must have CSD (Circuit Switched Data) _and_ CSV (CS Voice) on their end, otherwise they cannot originate a DOVBS call. Make sure they explicitly order BOTH channels this way. For SOHO BRI is nice, but I've always advised people to get both on both channels, even if they plan to only use one voice line. If only one is CSV then they can only do a 56K DOVBS call. No matter what it is and ISDN voice call that is interpreted as data on your end. Both Livingston and Ascend so this. Not sure how Ascend works but Livingston will do MPPP over mulitiple units, but you need to set the MEI to the last unit. Be advised that MPPP with DOV is not always as successful as MPPP with ISDN. Depending on the TA, it will retry so many times and each try costs $.06 in Ameritech land. Not fun when I need more speed and no ISDN lines are free forcing me to DOVBS. :( >Again Im sorry for the inappropriateness of this post to these list. Hmmm.... running RADIUS on FBSD? ;) Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 17:19:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25692 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rustbelt.COM (rustbelt.com [156.46.92.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25675 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by rustbelt.COM (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA00912; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:22:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from callufrax-13.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.65.204) by rustbelt.com via smap (V1.3) id sma000907; Wed Mar 11 19:22:25 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980311191803.0075571c@156.46.92.70> X-Sender: jeff-ml@156.46.92.70 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:18:03 -0600 To: dyson@iquest.net From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: MFS? Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980311200532.20119.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19980310220753.0072f000@156.46.92.70> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:05 PM 3/11/98 -0500, dyson@iquest.net wrote: >> I've been wondering if there is a size limit to MFS, besides the total amount of physical memory. :) >> >The size of swap. So with 1GB of memory and 500MB of swap I can MFS 500MB? Anyone done this? With some scripting to save data periodically this would make for a fast site, especially if a lot of data needs to be searched. The most I've seen used is 64MB on a news box. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 18:17:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06346 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:17:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06264 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA17182; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" cc: Kevin Day , dev@wopr.inetu.net (Dev), isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Runaway web server. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:03:15 CST." <3.0.3.32.19980311190315.00752e34@156.46.92.70> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <17178.889668970@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jeffrey J. Mountin" wrote in message ID <3.0.3.32.19980311190315.00752e34@156.46.92.70>: > In either case there was nothing suspicious/malicious in the logs around the > time of the runaways, but someone did try to exploit a bug of 1.2.4 (or earli > er?) with an invalid URL that was _really_ long, which didn't work. :) Since Apache doesn't log until completion (either through erroring out or the URL being delivered) its possible its an exploitable bug. > At least this was only one child process on 2 different occasions, but consid > ering how far both FBSD and Apache have come, it bothers me somewhat and now > someone else has a more serious problem. It would be really helpful if ppl experiencing this ran apache with debugging symbols compiled in and gdb attached to the runaway process and traced it to see what it was doing. We can speculate until we're blue in the face, but thats all it is... We use FreeBSD where I work too, and in a fairly heavily hit area (our POP servers see 100 pop sessions a second, probably gone up since that figure was calculated a few months ago). To date I haven't seen a runaway process on our servers. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 19:54:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19948 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:54:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sommer.dyn.ml.org (Modem087-Mankato.lakes.com [209.32.34.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19918; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from child@healing.edunet.aus.net) Received: from child (Child@child [192.168.0.1]) by sommer.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA06688; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:59:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from child@healing.edunet.aus.net) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980311215918.00dde798@192.168.0.10> X-Sender: child@192.168.0.10 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:59:18 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Child the loved one Subject: EXPN Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just a quick Qustion... how do I disable VRFY and EXPN for Sendmail 8.8.8/8.8.8 on 2.2.5REL I really only need it disabled for 5 addresses but disabling it completey is no bigie Thanks Jeremy Sommer /-----------------\ |Time to Move on..| |Time to recover..| |Time to heal... | |Time to live life| \-----------------/ FreeBSD* detected sending as plain text To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 20:10:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22909 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obiwan.TerraNova.net (root@obiwan.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22900 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bofh@terranova.net) Received: from guenhwyvar (tog@guenhwyvar.TerraNova.net [209.4.59.4]) by obiwan.TerraNova.net (8.8.8/TNN/3.0) with SMTP id XAA25630; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:09:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3507602A.647@terranova.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:10:18 -0500 From: Travis Mikalson Organization: TerraNovaNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Child the loved one , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: EXPN References: <3.0.3.32.19980311215918.00dde798@192.168.0.10> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Child the loved one wrote: > > just a quick Qustion... > how do I disable VRFY and EXPN for Sendmail 8.8.8/8.8.8 on 2.2.5REL > I really only need it disabled for 5 addresses but disabling it completey > is no bigie > > Thanks > Jeremy Sommer I think you want to start sendmail with -opnoexpn and -opnovrfy. This can be accomplished by editing your /etc/rc.conf (2.2.2 and later) and finding the lines: sendmail_enable="YES" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). sendmail_flags="-bd -q10m -opnoexpn -opnovrfy" # -bd is pretty mandatory. Add the -opnoexpn and -opnovrfy to the sendmail_flags line. hope this helps, Travis -- TerraNovaNet Internet Services - Key Largo, FL Voice: (305)453-4011 Fax: (305)451-5991 http://www.terranova.net/ ---------------------------------------------- Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, and a dark side, and it holds the universe together ... -- Carl Zwanzig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 11 21:35:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07744 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:35:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07699; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:35:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA16655; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@gdi.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:34:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: Doug White To: Child the loved one cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: EXPN In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980311215918.00dde798@192.168.0.10> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Child the loved one wrote: > just a quick Qustion... > how do I disable VRFY and EXPN for Sendmail 8.8.8/8.8.8 on 2.2.5REL > I really only need it disabled for 5 addresses but disabling it completey > is no bigie >From the red book: Add these lines to /etc/sendmail.cf: Opnovrfy Opnoexpn Or call sendmail with the options -op noexpn -op novrfy Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 05:52:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26866 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:52:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26851; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803121352.FAA26851@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: EXPN In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980311215918.00dde798@192.168.0.10> from Child the loved one at "Mar 11, 98 09:59:18 pm" To: child@healing.edunet.aus.net (Child the loved one) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:52:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Child the loved one wrote: > just a quick Qustion... > how do I disable VRFY and EXPN for Sendmail 8.8.8/8.8.8 on 2.2.5REL > I really only need it disabled for 5 addresses but disabling it completey > is no bigie > in your sendmail.cf O PrivacyOptions=noexpn,novrfy dont know how to do it for only a few addresses. i suspect that it is not possible at this time. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 07:58:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09759 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09647 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA02921; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:55:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toor) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:55:05 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: named errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am getting the following message (and many similar to it) in my log files. sysquery: findns error (NXDOMAIN) on maxbaud.net? We are trying to get our Reverse DNS setup through MCI right now, is this message related to not having the IN-ADDR.ARPA setup for us? Or is it a different type of configuration problem? brian +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 10:38:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01638 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:38:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01631 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyson@iquest.net) From: dyson@iquest.net Received: (qmail 29243 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 18:38:30 -0000 Received: from iquest7.iquest.net (206.53.230.110) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 18:38:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10379 invoked by uid 4420); 12 Mar 1998 18:38:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19980312183828.10376.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Subject: Re: MFS? To: jeff-ml@mountin.net (Jeffrey J. Mountin) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:38:27 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@iquest.net, toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980311191803.0075571c@156.46.92.70> from "Jeffrey J. Mountin" at Mar 11, 98 07:18:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > At 03:05 PM 3/11/98 -0500, dyson@iquest.net wrote: > >> I've been wondering if there is a size limit to MFS, besides the total amount of physical memory. :) > >> > >The size of swap. > > So with 1GB of memory and 500MB of swap I can MFS 500MB? > > Anyone done this? > > With some scripting to save data periodically this would make for a fast site, especially if a lot of data needs to be searched. > > The most I've seen used is 64MB on a news box. > Okay, I parsed your question precisely, and perhaps shouldn't have. You MUST have at least the same amount of swap as memory, period, unless you have a well controlled embedded application. The best rule of thumb is swap = 2 * memory for large systems, but even that is not always good. MFS is backed by swap just like anonymous pages in processes. So, MFS is limited by the same memory limitations as processes are. I know that I have had at least a 500MB MFS working. Note that I have a system with 200MB+ of ram, and 1.2GB of swap. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 11:46:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12711 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dodgecity.hpi.net (zac@hpi.net [209.12.9.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12701 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zac@dodgecity.hpi.net) Received: from localhost (zac@localhost) by dodgecity.hpi.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA13001 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:45:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:45:57 -0700 (MST) From: Zachary Maas To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: frontpage encrypting password problem? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Thu Mar 12 11:50:24 1998 ] access to /_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe failed for pointzero.hpi.net, reason: user hpi: password mismatch The above 'password mismatch' is not allowing me to use microsoft frontpage to work on the site in question even though i know that i am using the exact same password that i set with fpsrvadm.exe utility for the site. The machine the extensions are on is FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE running the apache-fp port. I have double/triple checked the permissions and everything is in order in this regard. After checking all the permissions i thought to myself 'its a password problem?' and then checked the service.pwd file which is under the _vti_pvt directory of the site the extensions are installed on. This file contains usernames and encrypted passwords for users/authors/etc of the site what these users can do is defined in the service.grp file but i will not get into that :) Here is an entry from the site in question that was created using the fpsrvadm.exe utility : hpi:ocuON2lNk4pNQ Upon seeing this i noticed an obvious difference (length) for this encrypted password in comparism to those stored in /etc/master.passwd and thought to myself "well why not replace the one in this service.pwd with an encrypted password from /etc/master.passwd and see what happens". So this is exactly what i did with a encrypted password from /etc/master.passwd that i knew what the plaintext password for it was. Voila upon trying to use microsoft frontpage after making the change i was able to get into the site to work on it. It seems the extensions are not encrypting the password to the way FreeBSD would like it to. I previously had this problem before i installed the apache-fp port and i had hoped the apache-fp would have fixed this problem in some way. I am not sure if other people have had this problem but i hope thay have and if _anyone_ has a work around then please let me know ASAP! :))) Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Zachary Maas High Plains Internet Ps. I hope this email made some sense, it should for those of you using frontpage aand fpextensions under unix. (i hope :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 12:20:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19569 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:20:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from azuret.rominet.net (azuret.rominet.net [194.2.236.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19537 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alain.Thivillon@alma.fr) Received: from khany.rominet.net (khany.rominet.net [194.2.236.62]) by azuret.rominet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/ROMINET-031098) with ESMTP id VAA24252; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:19:24 +0100 (CET) Received: (from titi@localhost) by khany.rominet.net (8.8.7/AT971012-Dial) id VAA07628; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:14:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19980312211453.33915@rominet.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:14:53 +0100 From: Alain Thivillon To: Zachary Maas , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: frontpage encrypting password problem? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Zachary Maas on Thu, Mar 12, 1998 at 12:45:57PM -0700 X-Organization: Rominet Networks Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Zachary Maas ecrivait (wrote) : > hpi:ocuON2lNk4pNQ fpsrvadm.exe comes from BSDI3.0 and use DES encryption. Stock FreeBSD use MD5. So when Apache runs (linked with MD5) and check passwords, they don't match. > but i hope thay have and if _anyone_ has a work around then please let me > know ASAP! :))) Any help is appreciated. I'm currentlly overwriting password using 'htpasswd' utility linked from support/ Apache distribution, but real users can't change their password using FP client. You can install DES support for FreeBSD and relinks Apache with new libcrypt library. -- :r ~/.signature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 12:32:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21165 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:32:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ntserver.computronic.hu (ntserver.computronic.hu [194.149.43.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21151 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andras.tudos@computronic.hu) Received: from karinthy (karinthy.computronic.hu [194.38.100.254]) by ntserver.computronic.hu (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-44403U100L100S0) with SMTP id AAA368 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:31:56 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980312213104.01060870@computronic.hu> X-Sender: andras.tudos@computronic.hu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:31:04 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" Subject: Scalable mail server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, we have to scale our qmail based mail server (with a custom made www frontend) to multiple machines to be able to serve ~100000 users and more. Currently we have a single server based heavily overloaded system with 30000+ users. We have many plans, but I would prefer to hear how others would start to construct such a system. We build all the machines ourselfs (including PII based PCs, RAID, network) and write the necessary code. All ideas, especially real world experiences are warmly welcome... (Especially file-system, user database and redundancy issues are critical. Would you use SMP with dual PIIs or 2.2.5? NFS issues? Postgres instead of passwd? Round-robin DNS or something else?) Andras Tudos & Istvan Pecsenyanszky C3, Budapest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 12:57:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26269 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26248 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:57:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA17004; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:57:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <004101bd4df8$756f52a0$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Zachary Maas" Cc: Subject: Re: frontpage encrypting password problem? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:50:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Zachary Maas >It seems the extensions are not encrypting the password to the way FreeBSD >would like it to. I previously had this problem before i installed >the apache-fp port and i had hoped the apache-fp would have fixed this >problem in some way. I am not sure if other people have had this problem >but i hope thay have and if _anyone_ has a work around then please let me >know ASAP! :))) Any help is appreciated. > The apache-fp port can't fix MS mistakes, as most of it is pre-compiled. The only thing the port does is add the mod_frontpage.c source code into the apache server and install the extensions. Is DES encryption installed on your server? I'm not sure if this could be the cause of the problem, but I think I read some where that MS is using DES for the decrypting of passwords. If DES is not installed, fpsrvadm.exe uses the crypt library, which only has MD5, to encrypt the password. But the other programs (don't use the crypt library)use DES to decrypt the passwords, which gives your error. Hmmm, how should the port fix this, make a check to see if the des library is installed? Q. After the apache-fp port finishes it's install, are you able to administer the root web, or do you get the same error? As, the apache-fp port runs the fp-install.sh, which uses fpsrvadm.exe to create the root web. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 13:04:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27672 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (root@dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27653 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:04:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14935; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35084DC2.7EC20650@dal.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:04:02 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-BETA-0310 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wm Brian McCane CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: named errors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wm Brian McCane wrote: > > I am getting the following message (and many similar to it) in my log files. > > sysquery: findns error (NXDOMAIN) on maxbaud.net? NXDOMAIN is generally returned by a nameserver when it thinks it should be authoritative for a domain but it has no records. It's not related to reverse mapping, but it does indicate a fairly serious problem. As of serial number 98031201 you seem to have things straightened out, so hopefully you found the error. One error that you SHOULD change is that your main MX record points to a CNAME (mail.maxbaud.net). This is an absolute violation of the RFC's and some mailers on the internet will not be able to send you mail because of the error. The simple solution is to change the CNAME record for mail to an A record and give it the same IP as maxbaud.net. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 13:08:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28265 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28226 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:07:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA15578; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:06:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:06:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: dyson@iquest.net cc: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" , toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MFS? In-Reply-To: <19980312183828.10376.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the BSDi mailing list we recently discussed the face that you can add a mlock() command to the mount_mfs code that will lock the pages in memory, thus making it non-swappable. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 dyson@iquest.net wrote: :> :> At 03:05 PM 3/11/98 -0500, dyson@iquest.net wrote: :> >> I've been wondering if there is a size limit to MFS, besides the total amount of physical memory. :) :> >> :> >The size of swap. :> :> So with 1GB of memory and 500MB of swap I can MFS 500MB? :> :> Anyone done this? :> :> With some scripting to save data periodically this would make for a fast site, especially if a lot of data needs to be searched. :> :> The most I've seen used is 64MB on a news box. :> :Okay, I parsed your question precisely, and perhaps shouldn't have. : :You MUST have at least the same amount of swap as memory, period, unless :you have a well controlled embedded application. The best rule of thumb :is swap = 2 * memory for large systems, but even that is not always good. : :MFS is backed by swap just like anonymous pages in processes. So, MFS :is limited by the same memory limitations as processes are. I know that :I have had at least a 500MB MFS working. Note that I have a system :with 200MB+ of ram, and 1.2GB of swap. : :John : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 14:42:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16439 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:42:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16257 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:41:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyson@iquest.net) From: dyson@iquest.net Received: (qmail 12815 invoked from network); 12 Mar 1998 22:41:09 -0000 Received: from iquest7.iquest.net (206.53.230.110) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 1998 22:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 15861 invoked by uid 4420); 12 Mar 1998 22:41:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19980312224107.15860.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Subject: Re: MFS? To: jonz@netrail.net (Jonathan A. Zdziarski) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:41:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@iquest.net, jeff-ml@mountin.net, toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" at Mar 12, 98 04:06:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On the BSDi mailing list we recently discussed the face that you can add a > mlock() command to the mount_mfs code that will lock the pages in memory, > thus making it non-swappable. > Most of the time, you wouldn't need to do that on FreeBSD. If pages haven't been used for a long time, there should be little reason to keep them in memory. However, I can imagine that for certain applications where it might be valuable to do the mlock thing, but in the general case, the FreeBSD paging stats code should minimize paging activity globally. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 15:32:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26835 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:32:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com (wicked.eaznet.com [209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26829 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:32:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from eddie@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA13233; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:38:28 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19980312163828.28109@wicked.eaznet.com.> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:38:28 -0700 From: Eddie Fry To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ssh Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, can't seem to find any documentation on how to move files between machines using ssh. I know there are a couple of ssh guru's on this list, can one of you help me out? I just need to move one file from one box to another securely and automatically. Thanks, Eddie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 17:32:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18138 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18118 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:32:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 10078 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 1998 01:36:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: Eddie Fry cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh In-Reply-To: <19980312163828.28109@wicked.eaznet.com.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org man scp also, please use one of the other lists for general questions like this. take it easy.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 19:25:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07463 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050ndd.san.rr.com (root@dt050ndd.san.rr.com [204.210.31.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07389 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (dougdougdougdoug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt050ndd.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02083; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:24:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <3508A6F4.24D119F9@dal.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:24:36 -0800 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-BETA-0312 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eddie Fry CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ssh References: <19980312163828.28109@wicked.eaznet.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eddie Fry wrote: > > Ok, > > can't seem to find any documentation on how to move files between machines using ssh. That's because you don't. You use scp (man scp for details). For future reference, you want to check the mail archives for the -questions list before asking simple questions like this. http://www.freebsd.org/search.html Also, you really should have asked this in freebsd-questions. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 19:27:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07974 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from einstien.compulinx-net.net (einstien.compulinx-net.net [207.206.45.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07893 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netman@compulinx-net.net) Received: from dnsadmin ([208.4.234.58]) by einstien.compulinx-net.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 134-42541U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA211 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001701bd4e30$af7f6380$3aea04d0@dnsadmin.compulinx-net.net> From: netman@compulinx-net.net (Toby Manley) To: Subject: Exabyte Tape Drive Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:32:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BD4E06.B8AF2BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BD4E06.B8AF2BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, I am a relatively new FreeBSD admin and would wish to install a Exabyte = tape drive. 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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BD4E06.B8AF2BE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 19:38:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10144 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:38:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10042 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:37:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA07053; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:37:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <002001bd4e30$68f62340$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Toby Manley" Cc: Subject: Re: Exabyte Tape Drive Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:30:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please don't post HTML to the list. ahc0 is the SCIS controller, you want to use the tape device ( st0 ). Scot -----Original Message----- From: Toby Manley Hello All, I am a relatively new FreeBSD admin and would wish to install a Exabyte tape drive. I have it detecting currently (Ahc0) but am at a loss what to do from here. If i type MT -f /dev/ahc0 status it gives me an incorrect ioctl error. Any help is GREATLY appreciated and also thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 12 19:43:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11155 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11087; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803130343.TAA11087@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Exabyte Tape Drive In-Reply-To: <001701bd4e30$af7f6380$3aea04d0@dnsadmin.compulinx-net.net> from Toby Manley at "Mar 12, 98 10:32:21 pm" To: netman@compulinx-net.net (Toby Manley) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:43:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Toby Manley wrote: > Hello All, > I am a relatively new FreeBSD admin and would wish to install a Exabyte tape drive. I have it detecting currently (Ahc0) but am at a loss what to do from here. > If i type MT -f /dev/ahc0 status > it gives me an incorrect ioctl error. > Any help is GREATLY appreciated and also thanks in advance. > ahc0 is your scsi controller. try "mt -f /dev/st0 status" st0 is your first scsi tape drive. jmb ps. this is really better sent to freebsd-questions rather then freebsd-isp...not related to isp operations ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 04:36:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17901 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay01.indigo.ie (relay01.indigo.ie [194.125.133.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA17875 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judgea@indigo.ie) Message-Id: <199803131236.EAA17875@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 1210 messnum 238111 invoked from network[194.125.133.235/relay-mgr.indigo.ie]); 13 Mar 1998 12:36:40 -0000 Received: from relay-mgr.indigo.ie (HELO indigo.ie) (194.125.133.235) by relay01.indigo.ie (qp 1210) with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 12:36:40 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scalable mail server In-reply-to: Message from "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" dated Thursday at 21:31. From: Alan Judge Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:36:40 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andras> we have to scale our qmail based mail server (with a custom Andras> made www frontend) to multiple machines to be able to serve Andras> ~100000 users and more. Currently we have a single server Andras> based heavily overloaded system with 30000+ users. We have Andras> many plans, but I would prefer to hear how others would start Andras> to construct such a system. We build all the machines ourselfs Andras> (including PII based PCs, RAID, network) and write the Andras> necessary code. Andras> All ideas, especially real world experiences are warmly Andras> welcome... (Especially file-system, user database and Andras> redundancy issues are critical. Would you use SMP with dual Andras> PIIs or 2.2.5? NFS issues? Postgres instead of passwd? Andras> Round-robin DNS or something else?) We're doing exactly this in production. Four PPro boxes running 2.2-STABLE and qmail (as well as Apache for user web access); all the data is stored on a NetApp filer, with nothing but OS stuff and the qmail mail queues on local disk. We use Maildir format for storing messages, so NFS locking is not an issue. Works perfectly and has very good redundancy. No downtime at all since we went live last November. We can add a new front-end machine in about an hour or so. With more front-ends and bigger filers available, I don't see any problems scaling to at least a few hundred thousand mailboxes or more. We have maybe 30K now and the load on the machines and the filer is very low. Each machine has two network interfaces. One to the public and one onto a private network for access to the filer using NFS. Everything hooked up with a Catalyst 5000. I haven't tried out the SMP stuff yet, but even PPro boxes are plenty fast for this sort of stuff. We use round-robin DNS across three of the machines. The fourth is a hot spare that can be made live at any stage. We keep all the machines in sync using ssh and rdist. We still use passwd databases at the moment, though even with increases in the DB cache size, pwd_mkdb takes up to a minute. The only trick is if you want anti-spamming support to work, yet still want users to be able to roam onto other networks. To get around this, we made mods to qmail so that when users authenticate via POP, the details are multicast to all the other servers to be used to dynamically change the list of IP addresses allowed to relay SMTP. -- Alan Judge Phone: +353-1-6046901 Indigo Internet Services Fax: +353-1-6046948 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 05:04:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20603 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from subpop.noc.clara.net (subpop.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20598 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from levine@subpop.noc.clara.net) Received: (qmail 22298 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 1998 13:04:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19980313130444.18511@clara.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:44 +0000 From: Neil Levine To: Steven Ames Cc: jeff@mercury.jorsm.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bind question Reply-To: levine@clara.net References: <199803101647.LAA04130@news.cioe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199803101647.LAA04130@news.cioe.com>; from Steven Ames on Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 11:47:22AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 10, 1998 at 11:47:22AM -0500, Steven Ames said: > > > > Gotcha. That didn't click at the time... thanks. > Different problem, same thread: We are running bind 8.1.1 off a couple of freebsd 2.2.5-R boxes. If the machine reboots, the nameserver only answers local requests and wont query external nameservers until a named.restart is done. ANyone seen this? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Levine ClaraNet(UK) Ltd. levine@clara.net http://www.clara.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 05:14:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21420 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:14:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from subpop.noc.clara.net (subpop.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA21413 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:14:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from levine@subpop.noc.clara.net) Received: (qmail 22326 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 1998 13:14:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19980313131439.40805@clara.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:14:39 +0000 From: Neil Levine To: Alan Judge Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scalable mail server Reply-To: levine@clara.net References: <199803131236.EAA17875@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85 In-Reply-To: <199803131236.EAA17875@hub.freebsd.org>; from Alan Judge on Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 12:36:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 13, 1998 at 12:36:40PM +0000, Alan Judge said: > > We're doing exactly this in production. Four PPro boxes running > 2.2-STABLE and qmail (as well as Apache for user web access); all the > data is stored on a NetApp filer, with nothing but OS stuff and the > qmail mail queues on local disk. We use Maildir format for storing Perosnally, I am more interested in ways of making the mail server scalable by having distributed data. If all the Maildirs are stored on the one NetApp it is not exactly an infinitly scalable solution. What would be nice is a simple(!) way of spreading the mailboxes between multiple machines with say a couple of customer facing machines handling incoming port 25 and 110 connections. That way you can have users a-e on one box f-l, on another etc, the customer facing machine then needs a way of knowing what is where. Using /etc/passwd is a no go area. SQL based or Radius based user verification is essential nowdays for large servers. Neil -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Levine ClaraNet(UK) Ltd. levine@clara.net http://www.clara.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 06:56:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03069 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.mpcs.com (bbs.mpcs.com [204.215.226.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA03010; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:56:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) Received: (from hgoldste@localhost) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/MPCS spamzap) id JAA24935; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:25 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:25 -0500 From: Howard Goldstein Message-Id: <199803131456.JAA24935@bbs.mpcs.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Rocketport DTR, 2.2.5R, mgetty Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone using the Rocketport (device rp) under 2.2.5R and mgetty and able to manipulate DTR for handy things like hanging up the modem and resetting it? Native rp device support noted in -current...does DTR control work there? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 08:12:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16164 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16124 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA06512 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:12:19 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <35095AE2.4F86647F@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:12:18 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD & Lots of files in a directory? (Good or Bad Idea?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, My FreeBSD system (running 2.2.5R) has a directory that currently contains around 3,000 files... This list grows at about a 100 a day... Is this going to cause me any problems? The filesystem it's on is part of a CCD array of 2 drives. They weren't formatted with anything special re. block / inodes etc... I guess the best people to answer this are going to be the people who run NEWS etc. on FreeBSD... ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 08:17:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17293 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17273 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA04166 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ifconfig weirdness Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For some weird reason, despite the fact that everything worked fine yesterday, I can only ifconfig one address from a class C - if I ifconfig another (even with netmask 255.255.255.255), it deletes the first one...wth? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 08:20:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18067 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.castlenet.com (ns1.castlenet.com [209.63.23.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18039; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from efinley@castlenet.com) Received: from ip65.castlenet.com (ip65.castlenet.com [209.63.23.65]) by ns1.castlenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16856; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:16 GMT From: efinley@castlenet.com (Elliot Finley) To: Howard Goldstein Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rocketport DTR, 2.2.5R, mgetty Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:20:36 GMT Organization: Hiawatha Coal Company Reply-To: efinley@castlenet.com Message-ID: <35095ca7.132598098@castlenet.com> References: <199803131456.JAA24935@bbs.mpcs.com> In-Reply-To: <199803131456.JAA24935@bbs.mpcs.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA18051 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:25 -0500, you wrote: I'm using it, DTR seems to work fine. > >Is anyone using the Rocketport (device rp) under 2.2.5R and mgetty and >able to manipulate DTR for handy things like hanging up the modem and >resetting it? > >Native rp device support noted in -current...does DTR control work >there? > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Later Science (efinley@castlenet.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 08:34:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21159 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from distance.net (root@[209.142.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21099 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zula@distance.net) Received: from m1 (zula@tc-port-53.lsl.com [209.69.148.53]) by distance.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA23025; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:43:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from zula@distance.net) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19980313113237.03b60ce8@fikeforce.com> X-Sender: zula@fikeforce.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:32:37 -0500 To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" From: Ryan Duda Subject: Re: ifconfig weirdness Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan, Are you using this format to alias your ips within your /24? ed0 being your interface. ifconfig ed0 inet 1.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias ifconfig ed0 inet 1.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias -RPD At 11:17 AM 3/13/98 -0500, you wrote: >For some weird reason, despite the fact that everything worked fine >yesterday, I can only ifconfig one address from a class C - if I ifconfig >another (even with netmask 255.255.255.255), it deletes the first >one...wth? > >Thank you, > >Jonathan A. Zdziarski >Systems Administrator >Netrail Incorporated >888-NETRAIL >jonz@netrail.net > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:06:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27644 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay01.indigo.ie (relay01.indigo.ie [194.125.133.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27619 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judgea@indigo.ie) Message-Id: <199803131706.JAA27619@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 13246 messnum 238097 invoked from network[194.125.133.235/relay-mgr.indigo.ie]); 13 Mar 1998 17:06:11 -0000 Received: from relay-mgr.indigo.ie (HELO indigo.ie) (194.125.133.235) by relay01.indigo.ie (qp 13246) with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 17:06:11 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scalable mail server In-reply-to: Message from Neil Levine dated today at 13:14. From: Alan Judge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <27235.889808770.1@indigo.ie> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:06:10 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Neil> Perosnally, I am more interested in ways of making the mail server Neil> scalable by having distributed data. If all the Maildirs are stored Neil> on the one NetApp it is not exactly an infinitly scalable solution. What Neil> would be nice is a simple(!) way of spreading the mailboxes between Neil> multiple machines with say a couple of customer facing machines Neil> handling incoming port 25 and 110 connections. That way you can have Neil> users a-e on one box f-l, on another etc, the customer facing machine Neil> then needs a way of knowing what is where. Using /etc/passwd is a no Neil> go area. SQL based or Radius based user verification is essential Neil> nowdays for large servers. The system we use can easily be scaled to multiple filers. Since Maildirs go in customer home directories (or anywhere else you like, but not one big spool), you can control where these go as you like. We already hash the directories used into 100s of directories based on unique IDs, so I could move these to lots of different filers if I liked, which seems to be what you want. Effectively, this is using the customer directory and the mount table as a lookup table to select the backend, or you could use replicated directories full of symlinks, allowing you to change the mapping quickly if there is a failure. I can't see any way of making it much simpler. Using /etc/passwd works fine for us and should continue working until 100K+. We are looking at SQL solutions and the passwd database is, of course, built from a database. You can't beat it for speed. It doesn't really effect the scaling issue though. You need some way of finding where the mail is, you can use /etc/passwd, hashing based on user name/uid, SQL, Radius, or whatever. -- Alan Judge Phone: +353-1-6046901 Indigo Internet Services Fax: +353-1-6046948 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:17:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29846 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29835 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA12083; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Ryan Duda cc: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig weirdness In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980313113237.03b60ce8@fikeforce.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Ryan Duda wrote: > Jonathan, > > Are you using this format to alias your ips within your /24? ed0 being your > interface. > > ifconfig ed0 inet 1.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias > ifconfig ed0 inet 1.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias I've used the netmask 255.255.255.255 and it has worked, but I don't know why *.*.*.255 instead of *.*.*.0 .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:28:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02458 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chele.cais.com (root@classic2.cais.com [199.0.216.212] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02452 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jk@cais.net) Received: from chele.cais.com (jk@chele.cais.com [199.0.216.212]) by chele.cais.com (8.8.8/CAIS8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19494 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Jay K." X-Sender: jk@chele.cais.com Reply-To: "Jay K." To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help w/ SCSI Tape drives/Backup solution Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I've got several (15+) FreeBSD machines in production (2.2.2 or higher) and I need to drop Tape Drives into some of them. Does anyone have any recommendations for relatively inexpensive SCSI tapes with 4G or higher capacity? I'm looking for a good balance between price and reliability. I will be getting 6 or so. On a related note, does anyone have any experience with Backup-server setups with FreeBSD? Would I be better off going with something like a DLT and a backup server? (Are there any network backup programs available for FreeBSD aside from amanda?) I'm concerned about sending many gigabytes over our network. Anyone have some experience they could share in this area? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jay K. Systems Director CAIS Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:33:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03721 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:33:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03706 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:33:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 11138 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 1998 17:37:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:37:40 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig weirdness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what? are you trying to put two ip addresses on an interface? have you looked at rc.net* ? On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > For some weird reason, despite the fact that everything worked fine > yesterday, I can only ifconfig one address from a class C - if I ifconfig > another (even with netmask 255.255.255.255), it deletes the first > one...wth? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:44:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05286 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05168 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmccane@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA14795; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bmccane) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:47 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: Studded cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: named errors In-Reply-To: <35084DC2.7EC20650@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Studded wrote: > Wm Brian McCane wrote: > > > > I am getting the following message (and many similar to it) in my log files. > > > > sysquery: findns error (NXDOMAIN) on maxbaud.net? > > NXDOMAIN is generally returned by a nameserver when it thinks it should > be authoritative for a domain but it has no records. It's not related to > reverse mapping, but it does indicate a fairly serious problem. As of > serial number 98031201 you seem to have things straightened out, so > hopefully you found the error. I am not still sure what was wrong. I updated the file on my main DNS server, and did a restart on this machine (a secondary), and it did not fix the problem. So I killed 'named', rm'd the secondary file in /etc/namedb and then restarted 'named'. *PooF* it is all working. > One error that you SHOULD change is that your main MX record points to > a CNAME (mail.maxbaud.net). This is an absolute violation of the RFC's > and some mailers on the internet will not be able to send you mail > because of the error. The simple solution is to change the CNAME record > for mail to an A record and give it the same IP as maxbaud.net. I will fix this later this afternoon. I was not aware that I could not do it that way, thanks for the heads up. Of course, a much bigger problem at this point is that my upstream feed has not registed my IN-ADDR.ARPA with MCI yet, so my Reverse DNS is still not working (can you tell I am frustrated?). I get a lot more mail problems from that than from an invalid CNAME I am sure. > Good luck, > > Doug > Have fun, brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 09:47:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06056 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06045 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:47:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA07593; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:47:16 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199803131747.LAA07593@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: ifconfig weirdness In-Reply-To: from Dru Nelson at "Mar 13, 98 09:37:40 am" To: dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com (Dru Nelson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:47:15 -0600 (CST) Cc: jonz@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > what? are you trying to put two ip addresses on an interface? > have you looked at rc.net* ? > > On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > For some weird reason, despite the fact that everything worked fine > > yesterday, I can only ifconfig one address from a class C - if I ifconfig > > another (even with netmask 255.255.255.255), it deletes the first > > one...wth? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ifconfig de0 inet 204.137.237.2 netmask 0xffffff00 ifconfig de0 inet alias 204.137.237.10 netmask 0xffffffff works for me. :) What exactly are you typing? Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 10:31:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16325 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:31:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from CTNet2.createtech.com (CTNet2.createtech.com [209.48.208.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16299 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kim@createtech.com) Received: (from smtp@localhost) by CTNet2.createtech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA18810; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from x56.createtech.com(209.48.208.56), claiming to be "createtech.com" via SMTP by pop.createtech.com, id smtpd018805; Fri Mar 13 12:28:02 1998 Message-ID: <35097A55.1416D8CB@createtech.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:26:29 -0600 From: Kim Shrier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jay K." CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help w/ SCSI Tape drives/Backup solution References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't have any recommendations for tape drives but we use BRU to do our backups. We have one of our FreeBSD machines designated as the backup machine. This machine has a 7 gig drive that holds all the backups (both full and incremental) for 1 week. All the other FreeBSD machines are setup to do their backups, using BRU, and FTP them to the backup machine. A full backup of all our machines combined is a little over 4 gig. This makes the network kind of slow but we schedule the backups between 3 and 5 a.m. to minimise the impact. We then use BRU to backup the backup files to tape. Jay K. wrote: > > Hi there, > > I've got several (15+) FreeBSD machines in production (2.2.2 or higher) > and I need to drop Tape Drives into some of them. Does anyone have any > recommendations for relatively inexpensive SCSI tapes with 4G or higher > capacity? I'm looking for a good balance between price and reliability. > I will be getting 6 or so. > On a related note, does anyone have any experience with Backup-server > setups with FreeBSD? Would I be better off going with something like a > DLT and a backup server? (Are there any network backup programs > available for FreeBSD aside from amanda?) I'm concerned about sending > many gigabytes over our network. Anyone have some experience they could > share in this area? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jay K. > Systems Director > CAIS Internet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Kim Shrier - kim@createtech.com Director of Development - CreateTech, Inc. voice 214-748-2233 - fax 214-748-3377 www.createtech.com - Custom Internet Solutions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 11:15:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23622 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay01.indigo.ie (relay01.indigo.ie [194.125.133.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23584 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:15:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from judgea@indigo.ie) Message-Id: <199803131915.LAA23584@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 2913 messnum 238169 invoked from network[194.125.133.235/relay-mgr.indigo.ie]); 13 Mar 1998 19:15:13 -0000 Received: from relay-mgr.indigo.ie (HELO indigo.ie) (194.125.133.235) by relay01.indigo.ie (qp 2913) with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 19:15:13 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jk@cais.com Subject: Re: Help w/ SCSI Tape drives/Backup solution In-reply-to: Message from "Jay K." dated today at 12:28. From: Alan Judge Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:15:13 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're running amanda to back up a mix of machine types (mostly FreeBSD, some SunOS, and a NetApp filer). About 70 partitions across 15-20 machines. All of this backs up via a holding disk to one DLT7000. (The holding disk needs to be stripped to get the transfer rates high enough to keep a DLT7K busy!) Amanda automatically schedules full and incremental dumps, but we regularly see 35-40GB put to tape in one night. The network is a mix of 10MB (Suns) and 100MB (FreeBSD boxes and the filer). Load hasn't been an issue yet. Amanda will do dumps in parallel to keep things flowing from the slower machines. Works perfectly. Best backup system I've ever used. One tape swap a day. -- Alan Judge Phone: +353-1-6046901 Indigo Internet Services Fax: +353-1-6046948 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 11:53:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29602 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29589 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA11642; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Alan Judge cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jk@cais.com Subject: Re: Help w/ SCSI Tape drives/Backup solution In-Reply-To: <199803131915.LAA23584@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've got something similar to what you're talking about set up, only not using amanda (since dump is so non-portable). We have a 20gb DLT Drive sitting on our box, and a perl script that mounts all the machines we need to back up from, along with local files, and tars them to the DLT. Doesn't take very long, runs every night, and the tapes are portable as well. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 12:14:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03145 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA03140 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andruscha@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19980313201344.16316.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.131.174.5] by send1a; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:13:44 PST Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:13:44 -0800 (PST) From: Andrej Aderhold Subject: software ppp To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi there, I got some trouble with Software ppp. It just won't load up when I type ' ppp ' on the prompt. It shows me the first line ( User Process PPP. Written by ... )and just freezes for several minutes. Every thing is so far configured, and it was running, but then it just did this (without reboot) This happened on my computer several times already. My tun0 interface is up, but not running. Thanks for your help. Andrej Aderhold == Satans Eier braten (TM) ! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 14:01:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24785 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24778 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@devnull.ruhr.de) Received: (from admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5) with UUCP id WAA03990; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:41:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from rm.devnull.ruhr.de [192.168.22.75] by devnull.ruhr.de with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yD6zb-0000IA-00; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:21:47 +0100 Received: from bs by rm.devnull.ruhr.de with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yD798-0000BX-00; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:38 +0100 To: Karl Pielorz Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fedup with Dumps & NC... References: <34FD69DB.5B2D7C25@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benedikt Stockebrand Date: 12 Mar 1998 13:31:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: Karl Pielorz's message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:48:59 +0000" Message-ID: <87afawrsye.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Lines: 60 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz writes: > All I want to be able to do is the following: > > > machine-a> dump tuaf - /usr2 | nc -w 20 machine-b 4000 > > then on Machine B, > > machine-b> nc -l -w 20 -p 4000 >/dev/nrst0 > > > And backup Machine A onto Machine B, with as little fuss as possible, i.e. no > amanda, no rmt etc... > > This 'appears' to work, until you try a restore - at which point you get > messages such as: > > machine-b> restore tf /dev/nrst0 > Tape block size (1440) is not a multiple of dump block size (1024) Are you using the same kind of OS on both machines? IIRC some use a default 1k block size, others use different sizes. What *might* help is to use (local)# dump [...] | dd bs=1k | nc [...] (remote)# nc [...] | dd bs=1k of=/dev/nrst0 to enforce block boundaries (but I wouldn't rely on it). And try the -b option to dump, too. My preferred method is to use ssh, however. I just do something like # dump [...] | ssh remote cat \>/dev/nrst0 for backups. And ssh is one of the top choices for managing a remote machine anyway. BTW, your msg had these headers: | Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) | by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12414 | for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:09:20 -0800 (PST) | (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) | Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) | by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01142 | for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:48:59 GMT | (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Either the date setting on lorca-tx is off by a couple days or your mail system needs daaays to deliver its stuff. So long, Ben -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand --- Un*x system administrator looking for a job To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 16:27:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18910 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18895 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Received: from magician.teksupport.net.au (magician.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05228 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:19:01 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199803140019.LAA05228@moat.teksupport.net.au> X-Sender: robseco@moat.teksupport.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:26:41 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rob Secombe Subject: Re: software ppp Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:13 13-03-98 -0800, you wrote: >hi there, > >I got some trouble with Software ppp. It just won't load up when I >type ' ppp ' on the prompt. >It shows me the first line ( User Process PPP. Written by ... )and >just freezes for several minutes. > >Every thing is so far configured, and it was running, but then it just >did this (without reboot) This happened on my computer several times >already. > >My tun0 interface is up, but not running. > >Thanks for your help. >Andrej Aderhold >== > > > Satans Eier braten (TM) ! > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > I came across this problem recently and it turned out to be, believe it or not, a DNS problem. As I was running named on the the box in question I simply removed the nameserver line in the resolv.conf file, forcing it to use the localhost for DNS, and bingo it jumped into life. This may not be the most elegant fix but it got me out of a hole at the time. Maybe an entry in the hosts file might keep it happy until you can get access to a namrserver. I assume it is trying to resolve the names of the addresses used on the interface. Someone else maybe able to shed some more light on this. Rob Secombe Engineering Director Teksupport Pty. Ltd. 7 Warwick Avenue, Springvale, Email: robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au Melbourne 3171 World Wide Web: http://www.teksupport.net.au/ Victoria Australia PGP Public Key: http://www.teksupport.net.au/~robseco/pgp.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 13 19:40:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24827 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from parsons.rh.rit.edu (root@d117-h041.rh.rit.edu [129.21.117.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24728 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mfisher@harborcom.net) Received: from mfisher by parsons.rh.rit.edu with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0yDhnW-0000GZ-00; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:39:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:39:46 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Fisher X-Sender: mfisher@d117-h041.rh.rit.edu To: Rob Secombe cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: software ppp In-Reply-To: <199803140019.LAA05228@moat.teksupport.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Rob Secombe wrote: > not, a DNS problem. As I was running named on the the box in question I > simply removed the nameserver line in the resolv.conf file, forcing it > to use the localhost for DNS, and bingo it jumped into life. This may > not be the most elegant fix but it got me out of a hole at the time. Not the most elegant fix? The man page for resolv.conf disagrees with you here, sir. On a normally configured system this file should not be necessary. The only name server to be queried will be on the local machine, the domain name is determined from the host name, and the domain search path is con- structed from the domain name. -- Mike "I swear - by my life and by my love of it - that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." --Ayn Rand, _Atlas Shrugged_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 14 03:25:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21867 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21856 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13173; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:25:52 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <350A6940.FA92113F@tdx.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:25:52 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benedikt Stockebrand CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fedup with Dumps & NC... References: <34FD69DB.5B2D7C25@tdx.co.uk> <87afawrsye.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Benedikt Stockebrand wrote: > > What *might* help is to use > > (local)# dump [...] | dd bs=1k | nc [...] > (remote)# nc [...] | dd bs=1k of=/dev/nrst0 > > to enforce block boundaries (but I wouldn't rely on it). And try the > -b option to dump, too. I thought of this yesterday - and it appears to work... Why would this not be 'reliable'? - The only thing I can think of is if dd gets a number of 'short' writes - it might do something nasty like pad the block (but from reading the man pages I kinda think it will just keep doing short writes if it has to - until either EOF or it's got enough to make a full block). I've done about 8 successful dump & restores now using: dump 0uaf - /usr2 | nc -w 40 rmote 4000 (and on the remote) nc -w 40 -l -p 4000 | dd bs=32768 >/dev/nrst0 I decided to use 32k blocks as 'restore' previously complained "1648 is not a multiple of dump's 1024k blocksize", and 32k blocks go a lot faster than 1k's... ;-) I have another inline program I can run all this through that does encryption & compression on one machine, and decryption & decompression on the other - I just really want to keep it 'as simple as possible', and not have to setup things like Amanda etc. on new systems just to do a restore... ;-) > BTW, your msg had these headers: > Either the date setting on lorca-tx is off by a couple days or your > mail system needs daaays to deliver its stuff. It got stuck in my mail queue... I run sendmail from inetd, and the copy that's meant to run and dequeue the outgoing mail spool every 10 minutes got killed :-) Ho hum... (re. Inetd, please don't ask it's a _long_ story...) Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 14 09:01:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02757 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (in-ruhr.ruhr.de [141.39.224.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02746 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bs@devnull.ruhr.de) Received: (from admin@localhost) by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5) with UUCP id RAA01651; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:52:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from rm.devnull.ruhr.de [192.168.22.75] by devnull.ruhr.de with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yDtoN-0000Mh-00; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:29:27 +0100 Received: from bs by rm.devnull.ruhr.de with local (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0yDtyF-0000JS-00; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:39:39 +0100 To: "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Scalable mail server References: <3.0.2.32.19980312213104.01060870@computronic.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Benedikt Stockebrand Date: 14 Mar 1998 17:39:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3"'s message of "Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:31:04 +0100" Message-ID: <87lnud8bw4.fsf@devnull.ruhr.de> Lines: 56 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Andras Tudos - Computronic, C3" writes: > we have to scale our qmail based mail server (with a custom made www > frontend) to multiple machines to be able to serve ~100000 users and more. > Currently we have a single server based heavily overloaded system with > 30000+ users. We have many plans, but I would prefer to hear how others > would start to construct such a system. We build all the machines ourselfs > (including PII based PCs, RAID, network) and write the necessary code. What's your resource bottleneck? Until you've found out about this you're only fighting with a blindfold on. > All ideas, especially real world experiences are warmly welcome... > (Especially file-system, >From experience with news and UUCP: Do you happen to have a single /var(/spool)?/mail directory holding all users mail boxes? If so, split that up first. And if you've got a flat /home/* hierarchy, do the same there, too. Files are searched via linear search on directories, and that becomes *excessively* expensive with large directories. Especially with UUCP-forwarding news servers this can be absolutely devastating. > user database and redundancy issues are critical. RAID arrays are always reasonable for reliability issues. > Would you use SMP with dual PIIs or 2.2.5? Some SMP developers are probably going to kill me for this, but I'd stay away from SMP if I can help it. The kernel SMP support may be fine. Maybe the libraries are fine, too. But don't rely on every single userspace program you use to work reliably on SMP systems. And debugging problems that only occur twice a week isn't much fun, especially on production systems. Besides, I wouldn't really expect CPU load to be the limiting resource anyway. > NFS issues? As a personal opinion: Don't. It's a resource hog. And if a machine goes down this will cause heaps of problems on the remaining machines. > Postgres instead of passwd? Do some performance analysis before you get into this sort of stuff. Unless I'm mistaken the /etc/s?pwd.db should be reasonably fast except when running pwd_mkdb to modify it. Ben -- Ben(edikt)? Stockebrand --- Un*x system administrator looking for a job To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 14 09:16:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04708 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04703 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA25407; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:25:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980314122156.01026670@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:21:56 -0500 To: et-users@etinc.com From: dennis Subject: v3.0 Beta now available Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A major re-write of our driver is underway. The goals of the project are as follows: - Improve performance by streamlining transmit and receive functions to targetted 100mb/s performance. - Clean up problem areas and eliminate crash points. - remodularize to better support mixed board environments - streamline the interface for new high speed board Most of the above has already been accomplished and we are now looking for real-world beta users. All 3 or our boards have been tested with HDLC, PPP and frame relay and should be suitable for production testing. The beta version is currently only available for Freebsd v2.2.5. Anyone who has been having problems should consider trying this release. The entire release is at http://ftp.etinc.com/pub/freebsd225.v30beta.tgz however only et5025v30.o and hdlccfg should be required to upgrade from 2.56i. Anyone using the beta release should please let me know. Dennis Baasch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 14 09:31:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06309 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:31:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.mpcs.com (bbs.mpcs.com [204.215.226.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06290; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 09:30:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) Received: (from hgoldste@localhost) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.7/MPCS spamzap) id MAA09924; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:30:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:30:55 -0500 From: Howard Goldstein Message-Id: <199803141730.MAA09924@bbs.mpcs.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rocketport DTR, 2.2.5R, mgetty In-Reply-To: <35095ca7.132598098@castlenet.com> Reply-To: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org efinley@castlenet.com wrote: : On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:25 -0500, you wrote: : : I'm using it, DTR seems to work fine. Under 2.2.5R? comtrol's August drivers fail to diddle DTR under 2.2.5R, and -current drivers under 2.2.5R with enough patching so they'll build get stuck in ioctl() forever. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 14 13:20:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03315 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.mpcs.com (bbs.mpcs.com [204.215.226.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03274; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) Received: (from hgoldste@localhost) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.7/MPCS spamzap) id QAA19198; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:19:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:19:56 -0500 From: Howard Goldstein Message-Id: <199803142119.QAA19198@bbs.mpcs.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: efinley@castlenet.com, lauralyng@rocket.comtrol.com, tomm@comtrol.com Subject: Re: Rocketport DTR, 2.2.5R, mgetty - RESOLVED In-Reply-To: <199803141730.MAA09924@bbs.mpcs.com> Reply-To: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In previous episodes I wrote: : : Under 2.2.5R? comtrol's August drivers fail to diddle DTR under : 2.2.5R, and -current drivers under 2.2.5R with enough patching so : they'll build get stuck in ioctl() forever. This turned out to be woefully incorrect. More verbose logging of mgetty's activities revealed that the real culprit was mgetty's attempted use of vtime. That mgetty didn't have a problem with vtime in operating on the standard cuaa ports, and too-terse logging, conspired to lead to an erroneous conclusion about broken DTR control. Rebuilding mgetty with BROKEN_VTIME (and reassigning the August comtrol driver's idea of major device #s to the one assigned in -current (i.e., 81), but this reassigment might not have been necessary under 2.2.5R...) fixed the problem. To the folks on the Cc: list, thank you for your advice and comments. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 15 14:44:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21006 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from slug.EUnet.pt (sj2-p10.telepac.pt [194.65.177.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20991 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:44:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@bug.fe.up.pt) Received: from localhost (jmg@localhost) by slug.EUnet.pt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28523 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:41:26 GMT (envelope-from j@bug.fe.up.pt) X-Authentication-Warning: slug.EUnet.pt: jmg owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 22:41:25 +0000 (WET) From: freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt X-Sender: jmg@slug.EUnet.pt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: modems for dial-ins... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I am building a machine with 5 external modems for dial-in access. I was thinking about these two: - US Robotics Sportster 33.6k - Supra 33.6k V + Which one is best for the job and for dial-out? (I will buy another one for my home machine) Thanks -- \\ Nobody can be exactly like me. \\ Jorge Miguel Goncalves \\ Sometimes even I have trouble \\ \\ doing it. \\ jmg (at) mail.EUnet.pt \\ \\ j (at) bug.fe.up.pt \\ -- Talluulah Bankhead \\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 15 19:45:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01954 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:45:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (root@marlin.corp.gulf.net [198.69.72.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01932 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Received: from marlin.corp.gulf.net (tbackman@marlin.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.2]) by marlin.corp.gulf.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA05540; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:45:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:45:09 -0600 (CST) From: Todd Backman To: freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modems for dial-ins... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Supra. On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt wrote: > > Hi! > > I am building a machine with 5 external modems > for dial-in access. > > I was thinking about these two: > > - US Robotics Sportster 33.6k > - Supra 33.6k V + > > Which one is best for the job and for dial-out? > (I will buy another one for my home machine) > > Thanks > > -- > \\ Nobody can be exactly like me. \\ Jorge Miguel Goncalves > \\ Sometimes even I have trouble \\ > \\ doing it. \\ jmg (at) mail.EUnet.pt > \\ \\ j (at) bug.fe.up.pt > \\ -- Talluulah Bankhead \\ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ===================================================================== Todd Backman (tbackman@corp.gulf.net) Dial-Up Access Support Team Leader Systems/POP Administration Gulf Coast Internet Company 1-800-444-INET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 07:53:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06465 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:53:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06432 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:53:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aza@aza.com) Received: from notebook02.win.net (notebook02.win.net [204.215.209.216]) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA27504 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Andy Phelps" To: Subject: Livingston Radius Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:53:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd50f3$a2012160$d8d1d7cc@notebook02.win.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0223_01BD50C9.B92B1960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0223_01BD50C9.B92B1960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Does anyone know what the all zero session ID for a Livingston Radius = Server 2.0 means? I had previously thought that it was a reboot record for the = communication server, but I have noticed that there are some connections that are established before an = all zero session ID that remain active after it. Thanks.... Andy Phelps Win.Net Business Internet ------=_NextPart_000_0223_01BD50C9.B92B1960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
Does anyone know what = the all zero=20 session ID for a Livingston Radius Server 2.0 means?
 
I had previously = thought that it was=20 a reboot record for the communication server, but I have
noticed that there are = some=20 connections that are established before an all zero session = ID
that remain active = after=20 it.
 
Thanks....
 
Andy Phelps
Win.Net Business=20 Internet
------=_NextPart_000_0223_01BD50C9.B92B1960-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 09:08:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02402 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02387 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA22435 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:08:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Web Based Email Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... sorry if this has been covered before... We are looking for a simple yet powerful package that allows email access for both writing and reading via the web? We have a secure server running on the web server which we would also like to utilize. Sincerely, Paul Stewart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 09:25:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09340 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09256 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA02217; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:24:35 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <350D6053.C4CFB0EC@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:24:35 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Stewart CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Based Email References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It has :-) Have a look at: http://www.econ.cbs.dk/people/ecvejrum/www-mail.html http://www.emumail.com/info.html http://www.endymion.com/portfolio/software/scripts/mailman.htm I can't recomend any though - as I've not got round to running any of them... If you do though, let me know how you get on... Regards, Karl Paul Stewart wrote: > > Hi there... sorry if this has been covered before... > > We are looking for a simple yet powerful package that allows email access > for both writing and reading via the web? We have a secure server running > on the web server which we would also like to utilize. > > Sincerely, > > Paul Stewart > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 09:57:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20530 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.triax.com (smtp.triax.com [206.58.96.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20504 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@triax.com) Received: from admin.triax.com (jim.triax.com [206.58.99.205]) by smtp.triax.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA19236; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803161757.JAA19236@smtp.triax.com> X-Sender: jmock@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:58:51 -0800 To: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: Web Based Email In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA20505 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:10 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: >Hi there... sorry if this has been covered before... > >We are looking for a simple yet powerful package that allows email access >for both writing and reading via the web? We have a secure server running >on the web server which we would also like to utilize. > >Sincerely, > >Paul Stewart > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Check out EMUmail.. http:/www.emumail.com/ Jim +===============================================+   Jim Mock | System Administrator | Webmaster   Triax Internet Services | Portland, OR  USA   e-Mail:  jim@triax.com | webmaster@triax.com   WWW:  http://www.triax.com/   Phone: (503)403-4311 | Fax: (503)403-4317 +===============================================+   Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting   two bodies. --Aristotle +===============================================+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 10:05:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23527 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23422 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA24955 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:04:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:04:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multiprocessor Kernel Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone heard any news on when FreeBSD will support a multiprocessor kernel? Does 3.0? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 10:23:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03631 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:23:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03464 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:23:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 14958 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Mar 1998 18:27:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:27:42 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiprocessor Kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org goto www.freebsd.org. There is a faq or page on multiprocessor freebsd. In fact, it is a great place to scan first before hitting the mailing list. I do it all the time. They have a mailing list search engine on the "SUPPORT" section. Lots of neat info. On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > Anyone heard any news on when FreeBSD will support a multiprocessor > kernel? Does 3.0? > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 10:26:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05712 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:26:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms.securenet.net (ms.securenet.net [205.236.147.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05624 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vandj@securenet.net) Received: from office (office.securenet.net [205.236.147.3]) by ms.securenet.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14325 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803161828.NAA14325@ms.securenet.net> X-Sender: vandj@ms.securenet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:26:11 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jean M. Vandette" Subject: Re: Multiprocessor Kernel In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:04 PM 3/16/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone heard any news on when FreeBSD will support a multiprocessor >kernel? Does 3.0? 3.0 supports multi-processor along with a few extra goodies. Regards John M. Vandette **John M. Vandette, Consultant vandj@securenet.net** **SecureNet Information Services Inc. Internet Providers** **100 Alexis Nihon Blvd #940 St. Laurent, Quebec, Canada** **"Who does BSD Unix....?" "We do Chucky... We do..."** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 10:33:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08809 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08705 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:33:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA25924; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:33:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:33:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Dru Nelson cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiprocessor Kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah I'm on here, it's a little foggy though as to either what versions support multiprocessors, where to download an addon, or what... Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Dru Nelson wrote: : :goto www.freebsd.org. There is a faq or page on multiprocessor freebsd. :In fact, it is a great place to scan first before hitting the mailing list. :I do it all the time. They have a mailing list search engine on the :"SUPPORT" section. Lots of neat info. : :On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: : :> Anyone heard any news on when FreeBSD will support a multiprocessor :> kernel? Does 3.0? :> :> Thank you, :> :> Jonathan A. Zdziarski :> Systems Administrator :> Netrail Incorporated :> 888-NETRAIL :> jonz@netrail.net :> :> :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message :> : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 12:09:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08171 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08128 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA29336 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:08:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:08:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Clean Install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't actually installed FreeBSD yet (been working w/BSDi for the most part). I've just downloaded everything in the FreeBSD 3.0 Directory, and am wondering what would be the best way to go from here. I need to make an install floppy...from there will it ask me where these files are located, or do they need to be in a specific place? I could burn them to a CD if I had to. Last I heard we're still not VFAT-32 Happy right? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 12:56:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20978 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:56:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20926; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08635; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:56:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000801bd511d$08ca0280$c3e0d9cf@admin.westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Cc: "FreeBSD-Ports" Subject: Re: ports/4878: Apache w/FrontPage Module Port Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:49:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FrontPage port has been updated. The port is available from: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp/ a copy has also been placed at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/apache-fp.125.f.tgz and later moved to: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/ports This port provides an easy to set up apache web server w/frontpage module (a.k.a. apache-fp) and FrontPage Extensions. Changes: 1. Port updated to use MS FrontPage Extensions v3.0.2.1330 (3.0.4). 2. Check for DES library. 3. Check for ResourceConfig & AccessConfig set to "/dev/null" in httpd.conf. NOTE: fpsrvadm.exe doesn't like to read from "/dev/null" for the ResourceConfig or AccessConfig files. 4. Check for ResourceConfig & AccessConfig not defined in httpd.conf. NOTE: fpsrvadm.exe looks for the access.conf and srm.conf to be in the conf sub directory 5. Added option to compile and install suexec+. make install SUEXEC=YES NOTE: suexec+ is a modified version of suexec, that allows the FrontPage extensions to operate under suexec. Basically, If a FrontPage extenuation is being called then don't suid fpexe, just exit suexec and run fpexe. Since fpexe is run suid also. Please remove old port files from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/ports/apache-fp.port.tgz and ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/ports/apache-fp_125.diff Scot W. Hetzel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 13:50:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04453 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (root@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04440 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27038; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:50:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:50:27 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Dillon X-Sender: cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us To: Karl Pielorz cc: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Based Email In-Reply-To: <350D6053.C4CFB0EC@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Karl Pielorz wrote: > It has :-) > > Have a look at: > > http://www.econ.cbs.dk/people/ecvejrum/www-mail.html > http://www.emumail.com/info.html > http://www.endymion.com/portfolio/software/scripts/mailman.htm > > I can't recomend any though - as I've not got round to running any of them... I can. I dinked with all of these recently (after seeing them mentioned on this list, of course) since I was looking for a similar solution. Both WWW-Mail and Endymion's Mailman are free with source code, and Mailman seems to be the nicer of these two. The nicest of all three them (features, looks, etc) is EMUMail, which is free unless you want to get rid of the advertisement banners, and does not come with source code (well, it does, but its an encrypted Perl script), and is not exactly cheap. Being the "Free" spirited people we are, it might be wise to take WWW-Mail or Mailman and improve upon them and submit any changes back to the authors. I am having a problem with all three of them right now not being able to delete mail from the mailbox. I am running Cucipop on the server in question and may try switching to popper or something else and see how it works. -- Chris Dillon --- cdillon@inter-linc.net --- cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us /* Powered by FreeBSD, the best operating system on the planet. Available for Intel x86 and compatible computers. SPARC and Alpha ports currently under development. (http://www.freebsd.org) */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 16 14:44:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17913 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:44:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17835 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:44:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08141; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:14:04 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA28156; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:14:03 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980317091403.49351@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:14:03 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Stewart , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Web Based Email References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Stewart on Mon, Mar 16, 1998 at 12:10:13PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 16 March 1998 at 12:10:13 -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi there... sorry if this has been covered before... > > We are looking for a simple yet powerful package that allows email access > for both writing and reading via the web? We have a secure server running > on the web server which we would also like to utilize. As others have already said, there are mail packages available for the web. All that I have seen so far have significant defects. In particular, they mangle the mail that you send without telling you, thus giving the impression that you don't know how to use mail. I'd recommend against using a web-based mail package. For more details, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 01:20:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06400 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06390 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.3) id TAA17200 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:19:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199803170919.TAA17200@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Radius -> SQL X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:19:52 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have an patches to and of the popular radius daemons other than Livingston, so that they will output accounting records to an SQL database rather than to a text file? I know that there are patches for Livingston radius to communicate with mysql however we do not run any Livingston equipemnt so we are not permitted to use their software under the terms of their license. - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 06:45:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22407 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:45:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@NS.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22400 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09486; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:44:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005201bd51b4$21e48730$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "Ernie Elu" , Subject: Re: Radius -> SQL Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:50:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using the patched radiusd at http://prometheus.projectx.com.au/~dmiller/radiusd-sql/ works great... I've even got a few perl/cgi scripts that give a nice interface. I'll post them at some future date if there's a request. Laterz... I'm off to ISPCON, -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net -----Original Message----- From: Ernie Elu To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:29 AM Subject: Radius -> SQL >Does anyone have an patches to and of the popular radius daemons other than >Livingston, so that they will output accounting records to an SQL database >rather than to a text file? > >I know that there are patches for Livingston radius to communicate with mysql >however we do not run any Livingston equipemnt so we are not permitted to >use their software under the terms of their license. > > >- Ernie. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 06:57:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24613 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:57:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24604 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:57:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.43]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA06955 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:58:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:59:48 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Library Errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... hopefully someone can help me..:) I'm installing dnewsweb interface to allow web access to our news server and upon execution on our FreeBSD stable box I get the following error.. ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.2.2" Can anyone tell me in lamens terms what I can install or what port I can install to fix this? Sincerely, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 07:13:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27453 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27413 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from news@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA20854; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:13:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from news) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:13:07 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: INN1.7.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I "upgraded" my INN software to 1.7.2 from 1.5.1. Before the upgrade an expire took around 1-2 hours. After it ran for over 12 hours and still wasn't finished (I killed it and restarted it, probably a mistake). Anyone else seen this? I am seriously looking at backing out the 1.7.2. brian +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 07:21:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28784 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28778 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:21:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nash@Jupiter.Mcs.Net) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (nash@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA16369; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:21:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA05943; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:21:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:21:40 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Nash To: Paul Stewart cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Library Errors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > I'm installing dnewsweb interface to allow web access to our news server > and upon execution on our FreeBSD stable box I get the following error.. > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libc.so.2.2" > > Can anyone tell me in lamens terms what I can install or what port I can > install to fix this? libc.so.2.2 is part of the 2.1 compatibility libraries. You can find this on the 2.2.x CDs in the compat21 directory (run install.sh to install). Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 08:01:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09711 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:01:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netgazer.net (netgazer.net [209.83.225.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09667 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:01:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rootlist@netgazer.com) Received: from dwoods.rch.mci.com ([166.32.137.45]) by netgazer.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27553; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:04:03 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980317095922.006a245c@netgazer.net> X-Sender: rootlist@netgazer.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:01:12 -0600 To: Wm Brian McCane , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Darrin R. Woods" Subject: Re: INN1.7.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:13 AM 3/17/98 -0600, Wm Brian McCane wrote: >Greetings, > > I "upgraded" my INN software to 1.7.2 from 1.5.1. Before the >upgrade an expire took around 1-2 hours. After it ran for over 12 hours >and still wasn't finished (I killed it and restarted it, probably a mistake). >Anyone else seen this? I am seriously looking at backing out the 1.7.2. 1.7.2 has actually been running pretty well for us and expires have been taking a normal amount of time. I noticed under 1.5.2 that if I ran my expires from news' cron it took a lot longer. Seemed that it was starting up about 5 or 6 copies of itself. I changed my cron to run from root with a "su news ..." and expires started working correctly after that. I have also been running the 1.1d-insync patches that are available for it on an HP-UX system and it has REALLY been running like a champ. I have tried to get it to run under FBSD but with no avail. I can get it to compile but for some reason it totally stops allowing feeders. Maybe someone smarter than me can port the patches. Darrin R. Woods dwoods@netgazer.com Director Operations Emeritus Netgazer Solutions, Inc. "UNiX IS user friendly. It's just particular about who it's friends are" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 10:13:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11581 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:13:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webserv1.buffnet.net (webserv1.buffnet.net [205.247.125.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11574 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by webserv1.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18131 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:13:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Very dumb mostly off topic question (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought the NIC handle assigning ANS #s - but I cant find anything on it.. Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? I apologize to everyone for the mailbox lettuce. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 11:48:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16344 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16337 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA28842; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.Alameda.net(207.90.181.2) via SMTP by DNS.Lamb.net, id smtpd028840; Tue Mar 17 11:48:35 1998 Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.8.6/8.7.6) id LAA23555; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199803171948.LAA23555@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net> Subject: Re: Very dumb mostly off topic question (fwd) In-Reply-To: from Steve Hovey at "Mar 17, 98 01:05:59 pm" To: shovey@buffnet.net (Steve Hovey) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I thought the NIC handle assigning ANS #s - but I cant find anything on > it.. Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction? AN and IP numbers are not handled by NIC anymore. It is now done by ARIN (www.arin.net) and they want money for it. > > I apologize to everyone for the mailbox lettuce. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Hovey > Chief Engineer > BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 17:13:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13859 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from True.Net ([161.196.66.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13839; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lem@cantv.net) Received: from s2.admin.true.net ([161.196.66.21]) by True.Net (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA03939; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:11:01 -0400 (VET) Received: from lemtop.cantv.net (root@localhost) by s2.admin.true.net (8.8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA15916; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:06:49 -0400 (VET) X-BlackMail: 161.196.121.109, lemtop.cantv.net, lem@cantv.net, 161.196.121.109 X-Authenticated-Timestamp: 21:06:49(VET) on March 17, 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980317211035.00a2b290@pop.cantv.net> X-Sender: lem@pop.cantv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:10:35 -0400 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Luis_E=2E_Mu=F1oz=22?= Subject: SMP kernel on Compaq anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi There: Is anyone running SMP FreeBSD on Compaq hardware? I would be interested in knowing about your setup as we're considering this alternative. Please reply by direct email. I'll summarize if there's interest. Best regards. -lem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 17 22:53:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17583 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:53:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17578 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@portal.net.au) Received: (from matt@localhost) by portal.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18427 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:23:23 +1030 (CST) From: Matt Baker Message-Id: <199803180653.RAA18427@portal.net.au> Subject: Re: Need Unix/FreeBSD based accounting/billing software with Radius server and sql database To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:23:23 +1030 (CST) In-Reply-To: <00dc01bd2cd2$2fcf48f0$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> from "Troy Settle" at Jan 29, 98 11:23:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> My colleague has just put radius support into pppd, and I'm about to >> review and commit it in the next couple of days. I'll also make it into >> a package so people can test it/use it in 2.2.5+ >> >> In the package I'll include ip-up/ip-down scripts, which you can use as >> models. In these scripts you could put msql statements. Hi, Just wondering on the progress of the radius pppd aware stuff? Matthew. Portal.Net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 03:30:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15327 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:30:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15322 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA22618; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:30:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:30:25 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Matt Baker cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@hilink.com.au Subject: Re: Need Unix/FreeBSD based accounting/billing software with Radius server and sql database In-Reply-To: <199803180653.RAA18427@portal.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Matt Baker wrote: > >> My colleague has just put radius support into pppd, and I'm about to > >> review and commit it in the next couple of days. I'll also make it into > >> a package so people can test it/use it in 2.2.5+ > >> > >> In the package I'll include ip-up/ip-down scripts, which you can use as > >> models. In these scripts you could put msql statements. > > Just wondering on the progress of the radius pppd aware stuff? We have a version which just does authentication - it does not do Framed-IP etc, and it does not do accounting. If people are interested, send me e-mail. Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 05:34:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06085 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06068 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA22595 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:34:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:34:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New 3.0 CD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just finished downloading v3.0b from the site, and want to burn it into a CD (since it's not available yet this is my only option). My question is, to make it bootable, what image should I use? The floppy image? Thanks. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 06:01:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12041 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:01:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11989 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19307; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:01:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199803181401.JAA19307@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: New 3.0 CD In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" at "Mar 18, 98 08:34:30 am" To: jonz@netrail.net (Jonathan A. Zdziarski) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:01:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've just finished downloading v3.0b from the site, and want to burn it > into a CD (since it's not available yet this is my only option). My > question is, to make it bootable, what image should I use? The floppy > image? Thanks. > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > The FreeBSD-current kernel is absolutely NOT stable. I am working every waking hour trying to understand the failure. I have a fully working kernel with no filesystem corruptions, but I am now trying to narrow down the fix. There are numerous bugs (of my own creation), and others have been helping me fix them. One of the bugfixes as a result of code-review has caused the problem to go away. Things are moving absolutely as quickly as possible, and the changes that precipitated the bugs are needed, as bug fixes and non-gratuitious performance improvements. I will be committing the fix for the filesystem munging problem as a minimal mod, so we can control things better. Make sure that the -current based code that you are using is not the bugged versions. I do not need anymore bug reports, because I am getting excellent support and help already. Also, I don't want anyone else have to deal with the bugs. The filesystem damage is repeatable, and ends up being uncorrectable!!! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 06:15:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15195 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15031 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA26710 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:13:50 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <350FD69D.D5CDFD43@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:13:49 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Root filesystems & boot-time, and re-mounting 'over the top' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I'm about to rebuild my system - and I thought I would re-plan the entire thing as well... I have a number of SCSI drives kicking around, some of which are in CCD arrays at the moment, I would _love_ to boot to a ccd array, but I guess that's not going to happen for a while... :-( Is there anyway I can have a really small boot partition, enough to bring up a 'ccd-aware' kernel, and config any ccd's, and then re-mount things like '/usr', '/var' etc. off the CCD array once it's available? (This would have to be done real early I guess before the system starts 'coming up' properly - so it can get to the _real_ config files off the CCD's... If theres a better way of achieving this - please let me know... ;-) I mostly use CCD's to get the speed - rather than safety... ;-) Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 06:23:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16952 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:23:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16890 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA24332 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:23:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:23:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: v3.0 Upgrade Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I'm upgrading from a December 97 snapshot to the latest, what from the FTP site needs to be copies over again? just bin and src? how about proflibs, etc...? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 06:29:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18188 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18062 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA26789 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:28:36 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <350FDA14.4C405BA7@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:28:36 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Root filesystems & boot-time, and re-mounting 'over the top' References: <350FD69D.D5CDFD43@tdx.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Karl Pielorz wrote: An awful lot about FreeBSD which didn't tell people the version (2.2.5), and on the face of it probably shouldn't have been in the ISP forum (though the machine does provide for dialin PPP/Web services for the company... ;-) My appologies... Kp -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 06:53:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22907 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:53:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22866 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA25425 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FTP Slow Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anybody else have the problem with FTP being excruciating slow on their freebsd box? I'm running 2.2.x, and am physically on the same network as the box, the L/A is below .30, and yet I only get like 1 MBit transferring a 65 Meg file. If I download the same file on our BSDi Machines, or DEC Boxes, I get significantly a faster rate. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 07:24:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26469 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:24:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26464 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.41]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA402; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:08 +0100 Message-ID: <350FE6E1.9ADB93CE@pipeline.ch> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:23:13 +0100 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FTP Slow References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > > Does anybody else have the problem with FTP being excruciating slow on > their freebsd box? I'm running 2.2.x, and am physically on the same > network as the box, the L/A is below .30, and yet I only get like 1 MBit > transferring a 65 Meg file. If I download the same file on our BSDi > Machines, or DEC Boxes, I get significantly a faster rate. Disable the TCP extensions in /etc/rc.conf and try again. -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 08:01:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02043 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02025 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA28183 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Another current site? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry to bug you all again, but does anyone know of any *other* site I can get 980315's 3.0 SNAP from? current.freebsd.org is slower than anything, and it'd take me all day - even on a T3. Thanks. Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 09:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15643 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15638 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:24:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27917; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:19:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803181719.JAA27917@implode.root.com> To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Slow In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:03 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:19:48 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Does anybody else have the problem with FTP being excruciating slow on >their freebsd box? I'm running 2.2.x, and am physically on the same >network as the box, the L/A is below .30, and yet I only get like 1 MBit >transferring a 65 Meg file. If I download the same file on our BSDi >Machines, or DEC Boxes, I get significantly a faster rate. Is this on the same LAN or is this to a machine out on the Internet? What type of ethernet card does the FreeBSD machine have in it? -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 10:01:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21946 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21911 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 17409 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Mar 1998 18:06:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3.0 CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'mon is that really an ISP question?? Dru Nelson Redwood City, California On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > I've just finished downloading v3.0b from the site, and want to burn it > into a CD (since it's not available yet this is my only option). My > question is, to make it bootable, what image should I use? The floppy > image? Thanks. > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 11:46:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09591 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gill.netrail.net (gill.netrail.net [205.215.10.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09582 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:46:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonz@netrail.net) Received: from localhost (jonz@localhost) by gill.netrail.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA09886; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:45:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:45:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" To: Dru Nelson cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3.0 CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So you're going to spam the list, complaining that I'm spamming the list? Thank you, Jonathan A. Zdziarski Systems Administrator Netrail Incorporated 888-NETRAIL jonz@netrail.net On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Dru Nelson wrote: : :C'mon is that really an ISP question?? : :Dru Nelson :Redwood City, California : :On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: : :> I've just finished downloading v3.0b from the site, and want to burn it :> into a CD (since it's not available yet this is my only option). My :> question is, to make it bootable, what image should I use? The floppy :> image? Thanks. :> :> Thank you, :> :> Jonathan A. Zdziarski :> Systems Administrator :> Netrail Incorporated :> 888-NETRAIL :> jonz@netrail.net :> :> :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message :> : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 13:40:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28367 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:40:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28359 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 12873 invoked by uid 1017); 18 Mar 1998 21:37:56 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:37:56 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another current site? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm... I always get over 100kb/sec from that site. Are you on Sprint or what? :) Kevin On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > Sorry to bug you all again, but does anyone know of any *other* site I can > get 980315's 3.0 SNAP from? current.freebsd.org is slower than anything, > and it'd take me all day - even on a T3. > > Thanks. > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 14:04:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04003 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:04:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wopr.inetu.net (wopr.inetu.net [207.18.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03998 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:04:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dev@wopr.inetu.net) Received: from localhost (dev@localhost) by wopr.inetu.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07084; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:15:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:15:34 -0500 (EST) From: Dev To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MX troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a client who has domain.com (www, ftp, etc) hosted with us. However, any e-mail addressed to anyone@domain.com should be delivered to their notes server. I setup mail.domain.com and an MX record (for the other hostnames) with the IP address of their notes server so all e-mail goes straight there. However, when the user logs into the web server (our server, not their notes server) and sends mail through pine, it still attempts to deliver it locally. Anyone know of any modifications we can make to sendmail.cf to have it force esmtp delivery on this domain name? The domain name (mail.domain.com, ip address) is NOT in the sendmail.cw file. Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 14:20:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06739 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:20:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [206.156.231.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06721 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:20:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: (from paul@localhost) by elvis.mu.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA28760; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:20:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from paul) Message-ID: <19980318162018.25810@mu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:20:18 -0600 From: Paul Saab To: Dev , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MX troubles References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Dev on Wed, Mar 18, 1998 at 05:15:34PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had the same problem when I had IP's aliased on the ethernet interface. When I moved the IP's to the loopback interface and used arp to publish the IP everything started to work. I have yet to figure out how to fix the problem other than use the loopback for ip aliasing. Paul Dev (dev@wopr.inetu.net) wrote: > I have a client who has domain.com (www, ftp, etc) > hosted with us. However, any e-mail addressed to > anyone@domain.com should be delivered to their > notes server. I setup mail.domain.com and an MX > record (for the other hostnames) with the IP > address of their notes server so all e-mail goes > straight there. > > However, when the user logs into the web server > (our server, not their notes server) and sends > mail through pine, it still attempts to deliver it > locally. Anyone know of any modifications we can > make to sendmail.cf to have it force esmtp > delivery on this domain name? The domain name > (mail.domain.com, ip address) is NOT in the > sendmail.cw file. > > Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 14:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09294 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09239 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfmays@launchpad.win.net) Received: from launchpad.win.net (notebook01.win.net [204.215.209.215]) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA07936 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:32:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35104B16.F3BC654B@launchpad.win.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:30:47 -0500 From: Joe Mays X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ascend radius dbm failure. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay -- I got the source for ascend radius 1.16 and compiled it in the freebsd form, it seems to work fine. I added the gnu ldbm database and changed the references to dbm.h in the code to use it. Now when I try to "make dbm" to make the database version, I get -- =========================================== ns3# make dbm gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./radiusd.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./dict.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./util.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./md5.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./attrprint.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./filters.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./usr_read.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./cache.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./des.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./radipa.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -c ./strerror.c gcc -ansi -O -DNOSHADOW -DFreeBSD -DBINARY_FILTERS -DASCEND_SECRET -DASCEND_LOGO UT -DDBM_MODE -o usersdbm.o -c ./users.c ./users.c: In function `fetch_user_data': ./users.c:213: parse error before `const' ./users.c:215: incompatible types in assignment ./users.c:224: incompatible types in assignment *** Error code 1 Stop. =================================== Anybody have any pointers on how to fix this? Anyone else encounter this? Thanks for your help. Joe Mays To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 14:52:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14493 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14473 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfmays@launchpad.win.net) Received: from launchpad.win.net (notebook01.win.net [204.215.209.215]) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00180 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:51:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35104F85.AE39D3BF@launchpad.win.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:49:41 -0500 From: Joe Mays X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MX troubles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does the DNS record look like? Are you using any CNAME entries? Dev wrote: > > I have a client who has domain.com (www, ftp, etc) > hosted with us. However, any e-mail addressed to > anyone@domain.com should be delivered to their > notes server. I setup mail.domain.com and an MX > record (for the other hostnames) with the IP > address of their notes server so all e-mail goes > straight there. > > However, when the user logs into the web server > (our server, not their notes server) and sends > mail through pine, it still attempts to deliver it > locally. Anyone know of any modifications we can > make to sendmail.cf to have it force esmtp > delivery on this domain name? The domain name > (mail.domain.com, ip address) is NOT in the > sendmail.cw file. > > Dev Chanchani - INetU, Inc.(tm) - http://www.INetU.net > Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting > dev@INetU.net - Phone: (610) 266-7441 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 16:51:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05724 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacman.redwoodsoft.com (pacman.redwoodsoft.com [207.181.199.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05719 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dnelson@pacman.redwoodsoft.com) Received: (qmail 18120 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Mar 1998 00:56:47 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:47 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Nelson To: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Slow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you using 100 base -t, are they real Cat 5 cables? Dru Nelson Redwood City, California On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Jonathan A. Zdziarski wrote: > Does anybody else have the problem with FTP being excruciating slow on > their freebsd box? I'm running 2.2.x, and am physically on the same > network as the box, the L/A is below .30, and yet I only get like 1 MBit > transferring a 65 Meg file. If I download the same file on our BSDi > Machines, or DEC Boxes, I get significantly a faster rate. > > Thank you, > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski > Systems Administrator > Netrail Incorporated > 888-NETRAIL > jonz@netrail.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 18 18:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18080 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18070 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:17:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA08855; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:16:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: dg@root.com cc: "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: FTP Slow In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:19:48 PST." <199803181719.JAA27917@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: <8851.890273815@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Greenman wrote in message ID <199803181719.JAA27917@implode.root.com>: > Is this on the same LAN or is this to a machine out on the Internet? What > type of ethernet card does the FreeBSD machine have in it? And, with what I've seen at work, are you sure that all ethernet devices (hubs, and especially switches) are working right? I repeatedly seen one make of ethernet switch make devices which look ok on some ports and give *really* poor throughput on others Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 00:33:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19737 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@NS.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19732 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA10499 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:33:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000101bd5312$98392300$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: ISPCON Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:39:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I just got back from ISPCON Spring '98 in Baltimore (www.ispcon.com). There was lots of vendors and lots of seminars (I got to a few today, including some with Eric Allman). There was one seminar, which I didn't attend, that had a topic of "Building an ISP from scratch with Linux." As I had never been to an ISPCON, I found this suprising, and thought that it would be cool to do the same thing for FreeBSD. The next ISPCON will be in September in San Jose (I believe). Would anyone be interested in joining me in organizing a FreeBSD seminar (or two), discussing the topics of building and ISP with FreeBSD and a general discussion of the pros and cons of doing so? Also, how about manning a booth on the exhibition floor? Could we talk Walnut Creek into sponsoring some of us (ISPs and Core Team members) to do such a thing? Possibly giving away some premiums (cdroms, t-shirts, etc)? I guess I'm volunteering to organize this if there's sufficient interest. Please let me know if you'd be interested in helping out so I can start thinking about what it would take to pull it all together. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 02:37:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03283 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03278 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@fastnet.co.uk) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07765 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:35:53 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:35:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Jay Tribick X-Sender: lists@ns0.fast.net.uk To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT PM3334UW + Intel 100 Etherexpress problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I've recently purchased a DPT RAID 5 card with the associated hard-disks etc. and installed into a FreeBSD system. I am using Simon Shapiro's excellent drivers for BSD and have got them working without /too/ much trouble (these DPT cards are amazing BTW). BUT.. (and it's a big but).. it appears to have knocked out my Intel Etherexpress 100m/bit network card. It's specified in the kernel configuration (device fxp0), and when the kernel compiles I see it include the drivers but on bootup there are *no* messages at all about the fxp device (doesn't even say if it hasn't found it). Anyone else experienced this problem / have any ideas? Regards, . .--------------------=:=----------------------. Jay Tribick | Network Administrator FastNet International Ltd | http://www.fastnet.co.uk/ PGP Key Available | Finger netadmin@fastnet.co.uk : Tel: +44 (0)1273 677633 . Fax: +44 (0)1273 621631 FastNet International Ltd - The User-Friendly Internet Provider To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 02:47:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04257 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:47:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04251 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02344; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:47:10 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <3510F7AE.694C09DD@tdx.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:47:10 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Tribick CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT PM3334UW + Intel 100 Etherexpress problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The DPT and the Intel are on different IRQs? - I Know PCI stuff is 'meant' to work on shared IRQs, but I've had a few problems with it in the past... Does moving the Intel to a different slot help at all? Regards, Karl Jay Tribick wrote: > > Hi > > in the kernel configuration (device fxp0), and when the kernel > compiles I see it include the drivers but on bootup there are > *no* messages at all about the fxp device (doesn't even say > if it hasn't found it). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 04:25:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15984 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mainzer.plusline.de (mainzer.plusline.de [194.77.223.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15975 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 04:25:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@mainzer.plusline.de) Received: (from richard@localhost) by mainzer.plusline.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA10096 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:25:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199803191225.NAA10096@mainzer.plusline.de> Subject: RAID ? To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:25:02 +0100 (CET) From: Richard Gresek Reply-to: rg@plusline.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have the IPC Vortex RAID-Controller here. The exact modell type is Vortex GDT 6537 RP. Is there any way to use this RAID controller with FreeBSD? If not, which other RAID controllers would be recommended? Thanks in advance Richard Gresek -- ---------------------- DPN -------------------------------- ----------- Deutsches Provider Network -------------------- Plus.Line Mainzer Landstr. 222-224 60327 Frankfurt Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Fax: +49 69 610238 ----------- Deutsches Provider Network -------------------- ---------------------- DPN -------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 09:23:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26561 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26543 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:23:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05124 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:23:14 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <35115481.AA09D119@tdx.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:23:13 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with 'fetch'... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I run a simple 'fetch' command from my crontab - It grabs a GIF status image from a server every half an our or so... Recently we've added 'basic' http authorization for this site, No problem I thought - after reading the man page for fetch, I modified our script so it does: HTTP_AUTH=basic:*:mstat:password; export HTTP_AUTH fetch -a -q -T 220 http://stats.dmpriest.com/router0.gif This falls over though... By logging the output - I find I get the following error: fetch: opening /dev/tty: Device not configured fetch: router0.gif: cannot authenticate with server stats.dmpriest.com It's almost like 'fetch' still thinks it's running from a tty, and not a non-tty script etc. I thought I'd get clever and put "/dev/null 2>&1" at the end of it, but it still gives the same error (even with that at the end of the fetch command, and the crontab command). So, I'm left thinking - either fetch is ignoring the environment variable (and trying to prompt the user for a username & password), or it doesn't notice the fact it's not running from a real tty - when being run by the cron. The cron jobs is set to run as user 'root', and the script is running '#!/bin/sh' as it's interpreter... If I log into the console and run the script manually - it runs fine, but not from from the Cron... I realise we could do this a different way - but the fetch command also provides a nice way of making sure the web server is 'still up' ;-) Can anyone suggest anything?? Thanks in advance, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 09:32:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28292 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from webserv1.buffnet.net (webserv1.buffnet.net [205.247.125.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28287 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by webserv1.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15980 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:33:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:25:20 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: spam blocking in sendmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ive found what looks like a good way to block inbound spam by domain - but am not up on sendmail enough - it mentions making a hash table FK/etc/mailspamdomains Is that just text you leave be? Or do you have to issue some kind of makemap on it? It doesnt mention doing anything - but I thought I would check. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Engineer BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 09:33:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28336 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28323 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:33:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA25665; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:33:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toor) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:33:11 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, I know this has been discussed before, but I tried to check the ISP search on www.freebsd.org for the word "expir*" and got nothing. I recently upgraded my system from 1.5.1 to 1.7.2.insync1.1d. The first time expire ran, I finally killed it 18 hours later. With 1.5.1 I was running an expire in under an hour. My history file is about 120M in size (nothing compared to some of yours I am sure). I tried to re-install 1.5.1, and now its expire is very slow also. I have not changed my kernel, or done a make world, but I am seeing dramatically slower times. I seem to remember that someone (Joe Greco maybe) posted a couple of small patches/tunes for expire or the config.data file which I was using. Unfortunately, I had a brain fart and lost whatever they were. I seem to remember that the changes involved the flushing of the history file in dbz (or something similar). Can anyone help? brian BTW> I `ktrace'd it, and it spends a lot of time doing stat(somefile) error -1 file not found unlink(somefile) error -1 file not found kinda seems like a waste. +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 09:39:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29123 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:39:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29002 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA25733; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:38:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toor) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:38:06 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: Troy Settle cc: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-Reply-To: <000101bd5312$98392300$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Troy Settle wrote: > Well, I just got back from ISPCON Spring '98 in Baltimore > (www.ispcon.com). There was lots of vendors and lots of seminars (I got > to a few today, including some with Eric Allman). > > There was one seminar, which I didn't attend, that had a topic of > "Building an ISP from scratch with Linux." As I had never been to an > ISPCON, I found this suprising, and thought that it would be cool to do > the same thing for FreeBSD. > > The next ISPCON will be in September in San Jose (I believe). Would > anyone be interested in joining me in organizing a FreeBSD seminar (or > two), discussing the topics of building and ISP with FreeBSD and a > general discussion of the pros and cons of doing so? > > Also, how about manning a booth on the exhibition floor? Could we talk > Walnut Creek into sponsoring some of us (ISPs and Core Team members) to > do such a thing? Possibly giving away some premiums (cdroms, t-shirts, > etc)? > > I guess I'm volunteering to organize this if there's sufficient interest. > Please let me know if you'd be interested in helping out so I can start > thinking about what it would take to pull it all together. > > -- > Troy Settle > Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services > http://www.i-Plus.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > This sounds like an excellent idea. Unfortunately, since I am just starting this process (starting an ISP on FreeBSD), I can't be much help, but.... If someone does this, it might be a good idea to make the notes that the presenters are going to use for the seminar available to this group first. That way other people could try to make helpful suggestions, AND people like me would have a really good reference of how to do/setup certain things that we aren't real comfortable with yet. brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 09:58:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03126 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:58:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03092 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:58:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14965; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:58:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:58:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Steve Hovey cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Steve Hovey wrote: > > Ive found what looks like a good way to block inbound spam by domain - but > am not up on sendmail enough - it mentions making a hash table > > > FK/etc/mailspamdomains I'm not quite up on this either, are you sure it's FK? this is the line I have for this, and this forces it to be used as a hash database (I've included every possible 5 digit number, so the hash is necessary). Kjunk hash -a@JUNK /etc/mail/junk I have also seen F{Spammer} /etc/mail/Spammer which is a flat text file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 10:12:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07615 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07542; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803191812.KAA07542@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail In-Reply-To: from Steve Hovey at "Mar 19, 98 12:25:20 pm" To: shovey@buffnet.net (Steve Hovey) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:12:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Hovey wrote: > > Ive found what looks like a good way to block inbound spam by domain - but > am not up on sendmail enough - it mentions making a hash table > > > FK/etc/mailspamdomains > > > Is that just text you leave be? Or do you have to issue some kind of > makemap on it? It doesnt mention doing anything - but I thought I would > check. wow....that all depends upon what is in your sendmail.cf FK/etc/mailspamdomains declares a database file called /etc/mailspamdomains. nothing more. take a look at /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions and /etc/mail/README. we use those anti-spam rules. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 10:55:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14504 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from birdland.rhein-neckar.de (root@birdland.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.88.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14465 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@birdland.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from localhost (bsd@localhost) by birdland.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA22240; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:54:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:54:18 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Jangowski To: Wm Brian McCane cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Wm Brian McCane wrote: > > I recently upgraded my system from 1.5.1 to 1.7.2.insync1.1d. > The first time expire ran, I finally killed it 18 hours later. With > 1.5.1 I was running an expire in under an hour. My history file is about > 120M in size (nothing compared to some of yours I am sure). I tried to > re-install 1.5.1, and now its expire is very slow also. I have not > changed my kernel, or done a make world, but I am seeing dramatically > slower times. I had the same problem. I'm using 1.5.1 with the "delayrm" parameter, and building a new history takes about 10 min for 250 MB history-size.. Suddenly, it took about 36 hours. I noticed, that the expire-proces, usually using up to about 40 MB RAM, stayed at about 1.5 MB. I tried several things without avail. The last thing before giving up was to rebuild the history index files with "makehistory -r -s ". After that, expire took again about 10 min... Martin | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Fax: +49 621/53 95 07 | | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 D-67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | | RNInet e.V. Rhein-Neckar Internet | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 11:57:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25934 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:57:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25311 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA00532; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:52:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toor) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:52:00 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: Martin Jangowski cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Martin Jangowski wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Wm Brian McCane wrote: > > > > > I recently upgraded my system from 1.5.1 to 1.7.2.insync1.1d. > > The first time expire ran, I finally killed it 18 hours later. With > > 1.5.1 I was running an expire in under an hour. My history file is about > > 120M in size (nothing compared to some of yours I am sure). I tried to > > re-install 1.5.1, and now its expire is very slow also. I have not > > changed my kernel, or done a make world, but I am seeing dramatically > > slower times. > > I had the same problem. I'm using 1.5.1 with the "delayrm" parameter, and > building a new history takes about 10 min for 250 MB history-size.. > Suddenly, it took about 36 hours. I noticed, that the expire-proces, > usually using up to about 40 MB RAM, stayed at about 1.5 MB. > > I tried several things without avail. The last thing before giving up was > to rebuild the history index files with "makehistory -r -s ". After > that, expire took again about 10 min... > I had already thought of that, guess I should have mentioned it. The makehistory has been running for over 11 hours. I notice it is spending nearly ALL of its time in 'biord' according to top. This is the same thing I noticed with expire. brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 12:33:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03138 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:33:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bsd.megaworks.com (bsd.megaworks.com [209.50.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03103 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from elmo (ppp-160.m2-20.tor.ican.net [142.154.23.160]) by bsd.megaworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26240; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:32:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Segal" To: "Steve Hovey" Cc: Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5375$dbca7700$0201010a@elmo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01BD534B.F2F46F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BD534B.F2F46F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Ive found what looks like a good way to block inbound spam by domain - but >am not up on sendmail enough - it mentions making a hash table If your really interested in ant-spam, Sendmail 8.9.0 is out for beta testing.. and has quite a few anti-spam improvements, or so I'm told :). BTW, I have attached the release from the sendmail-announce listserv, it is just a beta but hopefully most of the security holes are gone.. :) mark ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BD534B.F2F46F00 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="sendmail 8.9.0.Beta3 available for testing.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sendmail 8.9.0.Beta3 available for testing.eml" Received: from vix.com (pub1.pa.vix.com [204.152.184.33]) by bsd.megaworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11633 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by pub1.pa.vix.com id HAA20326; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by pub1.pa.vix.com id HAA20321; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from knecht.Sendmail.ORG (eric@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by knecht.Sendmail.ORG (8.9.0.Beta1/8.9.0.Alpha3) with ESMTP id HAA25987 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:26:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803171526.HAA25987@knecht.Sendmail.ORG> To: sendmail-announce@Sendmail.ORG From: Eric Allman Subject: sendmail 8.9.0.Beta3 available for testing Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:26:49 -0800 Sender: owner-sendmail-announce@vix.com Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 56ec6729538ffe7ecd6186a8f8c46ee4 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I am pleased to announce the availability of sendmail 8.9.0.Beta3 for testing. Access information follows: FTP://ftp.sendmail.org/pub/sendmail/sendmail.8.9.0.Beta3.tar.gz MD5 = b2abb360dc6ea591b8522eaec1c81722 (sendmail.8.9.0.Beta3.tar.gz) MD5 = e427bcf84570837bc119916015981a8c (sendmail.8.9.0.Beta3.tar) The focus of this release is on spam control. Major changes include: * SMTP relaying is turned off by default. * SMTP Messages are rejected by default if the sender domain cannot be resolved. * Messages can be rejected on the basis of the contents of headers. * A new Build script that works in all directories for compiling. * More security checks on files being opened. People who have included anti-spam rulesets in their configurations will probably have to remove or modify their old rules. In particular, the check_* rulesets are defined by default. Also, people who use SMTP relaying (e.g., for PC mailers) will have to configure sendmail to allow relaying as needed in their domain. I realize this will be painful for many, but it seems necessary to avoid spam. This is just another example of how spammers hurt us all. Lastly, the checks on file modes have been tightened up considerably -- for example, by default sendmail will refuse to read .forward files that are group writable or are in group writable directories. This behaviour can be turned down using the DontBlameSendmail option. Refer to the README file in the distribution for more information. The complete release notes are attached. Please note that there is a new sendmail signing key for 1998. It is available on the public key servers, and should be signed by the 1997 key as well as many individuals. As usual, please send bug reports and comments to sendmail@Sendmail.ORG. eric - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SECURITY: To prevent users from reading files not normally readable, sendmail will no longer open forward, :include:, sendmail.cf, class, ErrorHeader, or HelpFile files located in unsafe (i.e. group or world writable) directory paths. Sites which need the ability to override security can use the DontBlameSendmail option. See the README file for more information. SECURITY: Problems can occur on poorly managed systems, specifically, if maps or alias files are in world writable directories. This fixes the change added to 8.8.6 to prevent links in these world writable directories. SECURITY: Make sure ServiceSwitchFile option file is not a link if it is in a world writable directory. SECURITY: Never pass a tty to a mailer -- if a mailer can get at the tty it may be able to push bytes back to the senders input. Unfortunately this breaks -v mode. Problem noted by Wietse Venema of the Global Security Analysis Lab at IBM T.J. Watson Research. SECURITY: Empty group list if DontInitGroups is set to true to prevent program deliveries from picking up extra group privileges. Problem reported by Wolfgang Ley of DFN-CERT. SECURITY: The default value for DefaultUser is now set to the uid and gid of the first existing user mailnull, nobody, or daemon. If none of these three exist, sendmail reverts back to the old behavior of using uid 1 and gid 1. This is a security problem for Linux which has chosen that uid and gid for user bin instead of daemon. If DefaultUser is set in the configuration file, that value overrides this default. Add support for Berkeley DB 2.X. Based on patch from John Kennedy of Cal State University, Chico. Remove support for OLD_NEWDB (pre-1.5 version of Berkeley DB). Users which previously defined OLD_NEWDB=1 must now upgrade to the current version of Berkeley DB. Added support for regular expressions using the new map class regex. From Jan Krueger of Unix-AG of University of Hannover. Support for BIND 8.1.1's hesiod for hesiod maps and hesiod UserDatabases from Randall Winchester of the University of Maryland. Allow any shell for user shell on program deliveries on V1 configurations for backwards compatibility on machines which do not have getusershell(). Fix from John Beck of Sun Microsystems. On operating systems which change the process title by reusing the argument vector memory, sendmail could corrupt memory if the last argument was either "-q" or "-d". Problem noted by Frank Langbein of the University of Stuttgart. Support Local Mail Transfer Protocol (LMTP) between sendmail and mail.local on the F=z flag. Macro-expand the contents of the ErrMsgFile. Previously this was only done if you had magic characters (0x81) to indicate macro expansion. Now $x will be expanded. This means that real dollar signs have to be backslash escaped. TCP Wrappers expects "unknown" in the hostname argument if the reverse DNS lookup for the incoming connection fails. Problem noted by Randy Grimshaw of Syracuse University and Wietse Venema of the Global Security Analysis Lab at IBM T.J. Watson Research. DSN success bounces generated from an invocation of sendmail -t would be sent to both the sender and MAILER-DAEMON. Problem noted by Claus Assmann of Christian-Albrechts-University of Kiel. Avoid "Error 0" messages on delivery mailers which exit with a valid exit value such as EX_NOPERM. Fix from Andreas Luik of ISA Informationssysteme GmbH. Tokenize $&x expansions on right hand side of rules. This eliminates the need to use tricks like $(dequote "" $&{client_name} $) to cause the ${client_name} macro to be properly tokenized. Add the MaxRecipientsPerMessage option: this limits the number of recipients that will be accepted in a single SMTP transaction. After this number is reached, sendmail starts returning "452 Too many recipients" to all RCPT commands. This can be used to limit the number of recipients per envelope (in particular, to discourage use of the server for spamming). Note: a better approach is to restrict relaying entirely. Fixed pointer initialization for LDAP lmap struct, fixed -s option to ldapx map and added timeout for ldap_open call to avoid hanging sendmail in the event of hung LDAP servers. Patch from Booker Bense of Stanford University. Allow multiple -qI, -qR, or -qS queue run limiters. For example, '-qRfoo -qRbar' would deliver mail to recipients with foo or bar in their address. Patch from Allan E Johannesen of Worcester Polytechnic Institute. The bestmx map will now return a list of the MX servers for a host if passed a column delimiter via the -z map flag. This can be used to check if the server is an MX server for the recipient of a message. This can be used to help prevent relaying. Patch from Mitchell Blank Jr of Exec-PC. Mark failures for the *file* mailer and return bounce messages to the sender for those failures. Prevent bogus syslog timestamps on errors in sendmail.cf by preserving the TZ environment variable until TimeZoneSpec has been determined. Problem noted by Ralf Hildebrandt of Technical University of Braunschweig. Patch from Per Hedeland of Ericsson. Print test input in address test mode when input is not from the tty when the -v flag is given (i.e. sendmail -bt -v) to make output easier to decipher. Problem noted by Aidan Nichol of Procter & Gamble. The LDAP map -s flag was not properly parsed and the error message given included the remainder of the arguments instead of solely the argument in error. Problem noted by Aidan Nichol of Procter & Gamble. New DontBlameSendmail option. This option allows administrators to bypass some of sendmail's file security checks at the expense of system security. This should only be used if you are absolutely sure you know the consequences. The available DontBlameSendmail options are: safe assumesafechown classfileinunsafedirpath errorheaderinunsafedirpath groupwritabledirpathsafe groupwritableforwardfilesafe groupwritableincludefilesafe groupwritablealiasfile helpfileinunsafedirpath worldwritablealiasfile forwardfileingroupwritabledirpath includefileingroupwritabledirpath forwardfileinunsafedirpath includefileinunsafedirpath forwardfileinunsafedirpathsafe includefileinunsafedirpathsafe mapinunsafedirpath linkedaliasfileinwritabledir linkedclassfileinwritabledir linkedforwardfileinwritabledir linkedincludefileinwritabledir linkedmapinwritabledir linkedserviceswitchfileinwritabledir filedeliverytohardlink filedeliverytosymlink writemaptohardlink writemaptosymlink writestatstohardlink writestatstosymlink New DontProbeInterfaces option to turn off the inclusion of all the interface names in $=w on startup. In particular, if you have lots of virtual interfaces, this option will speed up startup. However, unless you make other arrangements, mail sent to those addresses will be bounced. Automatically create alias databases if they don't exist and AutoRebuildAliases is set. Add PrivacyOptions=noetrn flag to disable the ETRN command. Suggested by Christophe Wolfhugel of the Institut Pasteur. When determining the client host name ($&{client_name} macro), do a forward (A) DNS lookup on the result of the PTR lookup and compare results. If they differ or if the PTR lookup fails, &{client_name} will contain the IP address surrounded by square brackets (e.g. [127.0.0.1]). New map flag: -Tx appends "x" to lookups that return temporary failure (i.e, it is like -ax for the temporary failure case, in contrast to the success case). New syntax to do limited checking of header syntax. A config line of the form: HHeader: $>Ruleset causes the indicated Ruleset to be invoked on the Header when read. This ruleset works like the check_* rulesets -- that is, it can reject mail on the basis of the contents. Limit the size of the HELO/EHLO parameter to prevent spammers from hiding their connection information in Received: headers. When SingleThreadDelivery is active, deliveries to locked hosts are skipped. This will cause the delivering process to try the next MX host or queue the message if no other MX hosts are available. Suggested by Alexander Litvin. The [FILE] mailer type now delivers to the file specified in the A= equate of the mailer definition instead of $u. It also obeys all of the F= mailer flags such as the MIME 7/8 bit conversion flags. This is useful for defining a mailer which delivers to the same file regardless of the recipient (e.g. 'A=FILE /dev/null' to discard unwanted mail). Do not assume the identity of a remote connection is root@localhost if the remote connection closes the socket before the remote identity can be queried. Change semantics of the F=S mailer flag back to 8.7.5 behavior. Some mailers, including procmail, require that the real uid is left unchanged by sendmail. Problem noted by Per Hedeland of Ericsson. No longer is the src/obj*/Makefile selected from a large list -- it is now generated using the information in BuildTools/OS/ -- some of the details are determined dynamically via BuildTools/bin/configure.sh. The other programs in the sendmail distribution -- mail.local, mailstats, makemap, praliases, rmail, and smrsh -- now use the new Build method which creates an operating system specific Makefile using the information in BuildTools. Make 4xx reply codes to the SMTP MAIL command be non-sticky (i.e., a failure on one message won't affect future messages to the same host). This is necessary if the remote host sends a 451 error if the domain of the sender does not resolve as is common in anti-spam configurations. Problem noted by Mitchell Blank Jr of Exec-PC. New "discard" mailer for check_* rulesets and header checking rulesets. If one of the above rulesets resolves to the $#discard mailer, the commands will be accepted but the message will be completely discarded after it is accepting. This means that even if only one of the recipients resolves to the $#discard mailer, none of the recipients will receive the mail. Suggested by Brian Kantor. All but the last cloned envelope of a split envelope were queued instead of being delivered. Problem noted by John Caruso of CNET: The Computer Network. Syslog an error if a user forward file could not be read due to an error. Patch from John Beck of Sun Microsystems. Use the first name returned on machine lookups when canonifying a hostname via NetInfo. Patch from Timm Wetzel of GWDG. Clear the $&{client_addr}, $&{client_name}, and $&{client_port} macros when delivering a bounce message to prevent rejection by a check_compat ruleset which uses these macros. Problem noted by Jens Hamisch of AgiX Internetservices GmbH. If the check_relay ruleset resolves to the the error mailer, the error in the $: portion of the resolved triplet is used in the rejection message given to the remote machine. Suggested by Scott Gifford of The Internet Ramp. Set the $&{client_addr}, $&{client_name}, and $&{client_port} macros before calling the check_relay ruleset. Suggested by Scott Gifford of The Internet Ramp. Sendmail would get a segmentation fault if a mailer exited with an exit code of 79. Problem noted by Aaron Schrab of ExecPC Internet. Fix from Christophe Wolfhugel of the Pasteur Institute. Separate snprintf/vsnprintf routines into separate file for use by mail.local. Allow multiple map lookups on right hand side, e.g., R$* $( host $1 $) $| $( passwd $1 $). Patch from Christophe Wolfhugel of the Pasteur Institute. Properly generate success DSN messages if requested for aliases which have owner- aliases. Problem noted by Kari Hurtta of the Finnish Meteorological Institute. Properly display delayed-expansion macros ($&{macroname}) in address test mode (-bt). Problem noted by Bryan Costales of InfoBeat, Inc. -qR could sometimes match names incorrectly. Problem noted by Lutz Euler of Lavielle EDV Systemberatung GmbH & Co. Include a magic number and version in the StatusFile for the mailstats command. Record the number of rejected messages in the StatusFile for display by the mailstats command. Patch from Randall Winchester of the University of Maryland. Portability: AIX 4.1 uses int for SOCKADDR_LEN_T from Motonori Nakamura of Kyoto University. AIX 4.2 requires before . Patch from Randall S. Winchester of the University of Maryland. AIX 4.3 from Valdis Kletnieks of Virginia Tech CNS. Digital UNIX now uses statvfs for determining free disk space. Patch from Randall S. Winchester of the University of Maryland. HP-UX 11.x from Richard Allen of Opin Kerfi HF. IRIX 64 bit fixes from Kari Hurtta of the Finnish Meteorological Institute. IRIX 6.2 configuration fix for mail.local from Michael Kyle of CIC/Advanced Computing Laboratory. QNX from Glen McCready . SCO 4.2 and 5.x use /usr/bin instead of /usr/ucb for links to sendmail. Install with group bin instead of kmem as kmem does not exist. From Guillermo Freige of Gobernacion de la Pcia de Buenos Aires and Paul Fischer of BTG, Inc. SunOS 4.X does not include bcopy(). Patch from Per Hedeland of Ericsson. SunOS 5.7 includes getloadavg() function for determining load average. Patch from John Beck of Sun Microsystems. CONFIG: add DATABASE_MAP_TYPE to set the default type of database map for the various maps. The default is hash. Patch from Robert Harker of Harker Systems. CONFIG: new confEBINDIR m4 variable for defining the executable directory for certain programs. CONFIG: new FEATURE(local_lmtp) to use the new LMTP support for local mail delivery. By the default, /usr/libexec/mail.local is used. This is expected to be the mail.local shipped with 8.9 which is LMTP capable. The path is based on the new confEBINDIR m4 variable. CONFIG: Use confEBINDIR in determining path to smrsh for FEATURE(smrsh). Note that this changes the default from /usr/local/etc/smrsh to /usr/libexec/smrsh. To obtain the old path for smrsh, use FEATURE(smrsh, /usr/local/etc/smrsh). CONFIG: DOMAIN(generic) changes the default confFORWARD_PATH to include $z/.forward.$w+$h and $z/.forward+$h which allow the user to setup different .forward files for user+detail addressing. CONFIG: add confMAX_RCPTS_PER_MESSAGE, confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES, and confDONT_BLAME_SENDMAIL to set MaxRecipientsPerMessage, DontProbeInterfaces, and DontBlameSendmail options. CONFIG: by default do not allow relaying (that is, accepting mail from outside your domain and sending it to another host outside your domain). CONFIG: new FEATURE(promiscuous_relay) to allow mail relaying from any site to any site. CONFIG: new FEATURE(relay_entire_domain) allows any host in your domain as defined by the 'm' class ($=m) to relay. CONFIG: new FEATURE(relay_based_on_MX) to allow relaying based on the MX records of the host portion of an incoming recipient. CONFIG: new FEATURE(access_db) which turns on the access database feature. This database give you the ability to allow or refuse to accept mail from specified domains for administrative reasons. By default, names that are listed as "OK" in the access db are domain names, not host names. CONFIG: new confCR_FILE m4 variable for defining the name of the file used for class 'R'. Defaults to /etc/mail/relay-domains. CONFIG: new command RELAY_DOMAIN(domain) and RELAY_DOMAIN_FILE(file) to add items to class 'R' ($=R) for hosts allowed to relay. CONFIG: new FEATURE(relay_hosts_only) to change the behavior of FEATURE(access_db) and class 'R' to lookup individual host names only. CONFIG: new FEATURE(blacklist_recipients) turns on the ability to block incoming mail destined for certain recipient usernames, hostnames, or addresses. CONFIG: By default, MAIL FROM: commands in the SMTP session will be refused if the host part of the argument to MAIL FROM: cannot be located in the host name service (e.g., DNS). CONFIG: new FEATURE(accept_unresolvable_domains) accepts unresolvable hostnames in MAIL FROM: SMTP commands. CONFIG: new FEATURE(accept_unqualified_senders) accepts MAIL FROM: senders which do not include a domain. CONFIG: new FEATURE(rbl) Turns on rejection of hosts found in the Realtime Blackhole List. You can specify the RBL name server to contact by specifying it as an optional argument. The default is rbl.maps.vix.com. For details, see http://maps.vix.com/rbl/. CONFIG: Call Local_check_relay, Local_check_mail, and Local_check_rcpt from check_relay, check_mail, and check_rcpt. Users with local rulesets should place the rules using LOCAL_RULESETS. If a Local_check_* ruleset returns OK, the message is accepted. If the ruleset returns a mailer, the appropriate action is taken, else the return of the ruleset is ignored. CONFIG: CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS now includes the /:| mailer flags by default to support file, :include:, and program deliveries. CONFIG: Remove the default for confDEF_USER_ID so the binary can pick the proper default value. See the SECURITY note above for more information. MAIL.LOCAL: support -l flag to run LMTP on stdin/stdout. This SMTP-like protocol allows detailed reporting of delivery status on a per-user basis. Code donated by John Myers of CMU (now of Netscape). MAIL.LOCAL: HP-UX support from Randall S. Winchester of the University of Maryland. NOTE: mail.local is not compatible with the stock HP-UX mail format. Be sure to read mail.local/README. MAIL.LOCAL: Prevent other mail delivery agents from stealing a mailbox lock. Patch from Randall S. Winchester of the University of Maryland. MAIL.LOCAL: glibc portability from John Kennedy of Cal State University, Chico. MAIL.LOCAL: IRIX portability from Kari Hurtta of the Finnish Meteorological Institute. MAILSTATS: Display the number of rejected messages in the StatusFile. Patch from Randall Winchester of the University of Maryland. MAKEMAP: New -s flag to ignore safety checks on database map files such as linked files in world writable directories. MAKEMAP: Add support for Berkeley DB 2.X. Remove OLD_NEWDB support. PRALIASES: Add support for Berkeley DB 2.X. RMAIL: Improve portability for other platforms. Patches from Randall S. Winchester of the University of Maryland and Kari Hurtta of the Finnish Meteorological Institute. Changed Files: src/Makefiles/Makefile.* files have been modified to use the new build mechanism and are now BuildTools/OS/*. src/makesendmail changed to symbolic link to src/Build. New Files: BuildTools/M4/header.m4 BuildTools/M4/depend/BSD.m4 BuildTools/M4/depend/CC-M.m4 BuildTools/M4/depend/NCR.m4 BuildTools/M4/depend/Solaris.m4 BuildTools/M4/depend/generic.m4 BuildTools/OS/AIX.4.2 BuildTools/OS/AIX.4.x BuildTools/OS/HP-UX.11.x BuildTools/OS/NeXT.4.x BuildTools/OS/NetBSD.8.3 BuildTools/OS/QNX BuildTools/OS/SunOS.5.7 BuildTools/README BuildTools/bin/Build BuildTools/bin/configure.sh BuildTools/bin/find_m4.sh BuildTools/bin/install.sh Makefile cf/cf/Build cf/cf/obj/generic-hpux10.cf cf/feature/accept_unqualified_senders.m4 cf/feature/accept_unresolvable_domains.m4 cf/feature/access_db.m4 cf/feature/blacklist_recipients.m4 cf/feature/local_lmtp.m4 cf/feature/promiscuous_relay.m4 cf/feature/rbl.m4 cf/feature/relay_based_on_MX.m4 cf/feature/relay_entire_domain.m4 cf/feature/relay_hosts_only.m4 cf/ostype/qnx.m4 contrib/doublebounce.pl mail.local/Build mail.local/Makefile.m4 mail.local/README mailstats/Build mailstats/Makefile.m4 makemap/Build makemap/Makefile.m4 praliases/Build praliases/Makefile.m4 rmail/Build rmail/Makefile.m4 rmail/rmail.0 smrsh/Build smrsh/Makefile.m4 src/Build src/Makefile.m4 src/snprintf.c Deleted Files: mail.local/Makefile mail.local/Makefile.dist mailstats/Makefile mailstats/Makefile.dist makemap/Makefile makemap/Makefile.dist praliases/Makefile praliases/Makefile.dist rmail/Makefile smrsh/Makefile smrsh/Makefile.dist src/Makefile src/Makefiles/Makefile.AIX.4 (split into AIX.4.x and AIX.4.2) src/Makefiles/Makefile.Utah (obsolete platform) Renamed Files: READ_ME => README cf/cf/Makefile => Makefile.BSD cf/cf/Makefile.dist => Makefile src/READ_ME => src/README -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNQ6LbCPkYtS/e6QhAQF04AP/edkcGAqYuLM0EkSWxP+5bsS497/GxuMn xG8rHbOzgEyd3F0cMXI+SfVm4+RMCoiapAAOJ3Y9L9zt+k3cjcwwKZH02J9CFzdD edhJOxfLYgNX6VztGjZCIOFimgWFLERLYwn1ldYIypiNRKcUIv0YGdXQNbrX9aDo jAK817ejo8M= =0etY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BD534B.F2F46F00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 12:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03641 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03521 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:35:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA24310; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:34:50 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803192034.WAA24310@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: from Wm Brian McCane at "Mar 19, 98 01:52:00 pm" To: root@bmccane.maxbaud.net (Wm Brian McCane) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:34:50 +0200 (SAT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > > I recently upgraded my system from 1.5.1 to 1.7.2.insync1.1d. > > > The first time expire ran, I finally killed it 18 hours later. With > > > 1.5.1 I was running an expire in under an hour. My history file is about > > > 120M in size (nothing compared to some of yours I am sure). I tried to > > > re-install 1.5.1, and now its expire is very slow also. I have not > > > changed my kernel, or done a make world, but I am seeing dramatically > > > slower times. > > > > I had the same problem. I'm using 1.5.1 with the "delayrm" parameter, and > > building a new history takes about 10 min for 250 MB history-size.. > > Suddenly, it took about 36 hours. I noticed, that the expire-proces, > > usually using up to about 40 MB RAM, stayed at about 1.5 MB. > > > > I tried several things without avail. The last thing before giving up was > > to rebuild the history index files with "makehistory -r -s ". After > > that, expire took again about 10 min... > > > I had already thought of that, guess I should have mentioned it. The > makehistory has been running for over 11 hours. I notice it is spending > nearly ALL of its time in 'biord' according to top. This is the same > thing I noticed with expire. I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your expiry is done and have a look at its output. Inn and its utilities change automatically over from memory based usage to disk based usage for some of its operations if it can't allocate enough memory... and then performance sucks big time. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 12:44:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05165 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:44:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aldhfn.aldhfn.org (root@aldhfn.aldhfn.org [198.17.116.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05159 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:44:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org) Received: from phoenix (phoenix.aldhfn.org [198.17.116.15]) by aldhfn.aldhfn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28153 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:36:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org) Received: by phoenix.aldhfn.org (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Thu, 19 Mar 98 16:14:11 EST From: ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org (Skip Watson) Message-Id: <26050549.u8t20e.7e247-ciaran@phoenix.aldhfn.org> Subject: Cistron Radius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 16:14:11 EST Organization: Auldhaefen Associates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA05161 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone else using Cistron radius? I'm finding it to be quite nice, especially the radlast prog. However there seem to be a few scripts missing. /usr/local/sbin/checklogin which is used for checking Simultaneous use for one. I was wondering if anyone had it. I haven't heard back from the author about it yet. Skip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 13:59:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13332 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from birdland.rhein-neckar.de (root@birdland.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.88.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13326 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:59:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd@birdland.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from localhost (bsd@localhost) by birdland.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA02394; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:56:14 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:56:14 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Jangowski To: John Hay cc: Wm Brian McCane , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: <199803192034.WAA24310@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, John Hay wrote: > I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't > handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM > or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like > that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your > expiry is done and have a look at its output. I tried this with _lots_ of free memory. After rebuilding the .pag and .dir files it used virtual memory. Something in the .dir file was the culprit, I think. I was happy to have our newsserver up and running again, so I didn't investigate. The same thing happened twice, and got resolved the same way, I'm fairly sure that something in the dbz-files was corrupted. Martin | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Fax: +49 621/53 95 07 | | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 D-67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | | RNInet e.V. Rhein-Neckar Internet | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 14:12:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14615 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net ([208.155.166.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14605 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA05559; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:11:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toor) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:11:22 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: John Hay cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: <199803192034.WAA24310@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, John Hay wrote: > > > > > > > > I recently upgraded my system from 1.5.1 to 1.7.2.insync1.1d. > > > > The first time expire ran, I finally killed it 18 hours later. With > > > > 1.5.1 I was running an expire in under an hour. My history file is about > > > > 120M in size (nothing compared to some of yours I am sure). I tried to > > > > re-install 1.5.1, and now its expire is very slow also. I have not > > > > changed my kernel, or done a make world, but I am seeing dramatically > > > > slower times. > > > > > > I had the same problem. I'm using 1.5.1 with the "delayrm" parameter, and > > > building a new history takes about 10 min for 250 MB history-size.. > > > Suddenly, it took about 36 hours. I noticed, that the expire-proces, > > > usually using up to about 40 MB RAM, stayed at about 1.5 MB. > > > > > > I tried several things without avail. The last thing before giving up was > > > to rebuild the history index files with "makehistory -r -s ". After > > > that, expire took again about 10 min... > > > > > I had already thought of that, guess I should have mentioned it. The > > makehistory has been running for over 11 hours. I notice it is spending > > nearly ALL of its time in 'biord' according to top. This is the same > > thing I noticed with expire. > > I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't > handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM > or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like > that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your > expiry is done and have a look at its output. > > Inn and its utilities change automatically over from memory > based usage to disk based usage for some of its operations > if it can't allocate enough memory... and then performance > sucks big time. > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > Actually, I have been running it from my command line the past few times while testing different versions of INN. If I run limits from the command line I get: Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kb datasize 32768 kb stacksize 16384 kb coredumpsize infinity kb memoryuse-cur 131072 kb memorylocked-cur 32768 kb maxprocesses 64 openfiles-cur 256 Does this look sufficient? brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 14:48:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20651 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [204.215.209.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20626 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfmays@launchpad.win.net) Received: from launchpad.win.net (notebook01.win.net [204.215.209.215]) by ns1.win.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA21107 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:48:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3511A033.6A780275@launchpad.win.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:46:11 -0500 From: Joe Mays X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail References: <199803191812.KAA07542@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On a related note: I just ran into an issue today with spammers that leads me to a sendmail.cf question. Someone out there is generating spam mail (we've encountered it from more than one domain) that has a blank X-UIDL: header. This is a real problem for MS Outlook and Outlook express. When they attempt to download messages from the pop server which contain this header they hang and give a pop-server timeout. Netscape has no problem downloading them, though it may screw up the indexing in the inbox list, not sure about that yet. In the strictest sense this is an MS Outlook problem. The blank X-UIDL header should not halt the download. In the real world, it looks to our customers as though our pop server is dying. Does anyone know if it is possible to have a sendmail.cf ruleset that watches for empty X-UIDL headers and bounces them if they occur. Re: Outlook, if the header is present and has a value, that's fine. If it's not there at all, that's fine too. If it's there but has no value, hang-time. I'm not sure why a spammer would want to generate a message with the header like this. Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > Steve Hovey wrote: > > > > Ive found what looks like a good way to block inbound spam by domain - but > > am not up on sendmail enough - it mentions making a hash table > > > > > > FK/etc/mailspamdomains > > > > > > Is that just text you leave be? Or do you have to issue some kind of > > makemap on it? It doesnt mention doing anything - but I thought I would > > check. > > wow....that all depends upon what is in your sendmail.cf > FK/etc/mailspamdomains declares a database file called > /etc/mailspamdomains. nothing more. > > take a look at /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.additions > and /etc/mail/README. > > we use those anti-spam rules. > jmb > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 15:18:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24533 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [204.160.242.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24528 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:18:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from harlie.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [204.160.242.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18619; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Joe Mays cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail In-Reply-To: <3511A033.6A780275@launchpad.win.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Joe Mays wrote: > On a related note: I just ran into an issue today with > spammers that leads me to a sendmail.cf question. > > Someone out there is generating spam mail (we've encountered > it from more than one domain) that has a blank X-UIDL: > header. This is a real problem for MS Outlook and Outlook > express. When they attempt to download messages from the > pop server which contain this header they hang and give a > pop-server timeout. Netscape has no problem downloading > them, though it may screw up the indexing in the inbox list, > not sure about that yet. I think this can be done with sendmail 8.9 beta, which claims the ability to bounce messages based on headers. Right now I'm /dev/null'ing the messages with procmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 15:59:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03846 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03815; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199803192359.PAA03815@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: spam blocking in sendmail In-Reply-To: <3511A033.6A780275@launchpad.win.net> from Joe Mays at "Mar 19, 98 05:46:11 pm" To: jfmays@launchpad.win.net (Joe Mays) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:59:15 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joe Mays wrote: > On a related note: I just ran into an issue today with > spammers that leads me to a sendmail.cf question. > > Someone out there is generating spam mail (we've encountered > it from more than one domain) that has a blank X-UIDL: > header. This is a real problem for MS Outlook and Outlook > express. When they attempt to download messages from the > pop server which contain this header they hang and give a > pop-server timeout. Netscape has no problem downloading > them, though it may screw up the indexing in the inbox list, > not sure about that yet. > > In the strictest sense this is an MS Outlook problem. The > blank X-UIDL header should not halt the download. In the > real world, it looks to our customers as though our pop > server is dying. Does anyone know if it is possible to have > a sendmail.cf ruleset that watches for empty X-UIDL headers > and bounces them if they occur. i do not know of any way of doing this in the current version of sendmail. sendmail 8.9.0, which is now in beta, *may* be able to do this. procmail definately can hanlde this problem. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 18:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28132 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:20:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28123 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:20:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 16547 invoked by uid 1017); 20 Mar 1998 02:18:21 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:18:21 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa To: Troy Settle , jkh@time.cdrom.com cc: "\(ML\) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-Reply-To: <000101bd5312$98392300$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that is a great idea. I'd like to discuss details with you. There is a good possibility Atipa could be a co-sponsor. We have some ISP-directed products that should be ready by then, all based on FreeBSD. Kevin On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Troy Settle wrote: > Well, I just got back from ISPCON Spring '98 in Baltimore > (www.ispcon.com). There was lots of vendors and lots of seminars (I got > to a few today, including some with Eric Allman). > > There was one seminar, which I didn't attend, that had a topic of > "Building an ISP from scratch with Linux." As I had never been to an > ISPCON, I found this suprising, and thought that it would be cool to do > the same thing for FreeBSD. > > The next ISPCON will be in September in San Jose (I believe). Would > anyone be interested in joining me in organizing a FreeBSD seminar (or > two), discussing the topics of building and ISP with FreeBSD and a > general discussion of the pros and cons of doing so? > > Also, how about manning a booth on the exhibition floor? Could we talk > Walnut Creek into sponsoring some of us (ISPs and Core Team members) to > do such a thing? Possibly giving away some premiums (cdroms, t-shirts, > etc)? > > I guess I'm volunteering to organize this if there's sufficient interest. > Please let me know if you'd be interested in helping out so I can start > thinking about what it would take to pull it all together. > > -- > Troy Settle > Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services > http://www.i-Plus.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 18:49:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03584 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03577 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:49:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20055; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Atipa cc: Troy Settle , "\(ML\) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:18:21 MST." Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:49:41 -0800 Message-ID: <20052.890362181@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Also, how about manning a booth on the exhibition floor? Could we talk > Walnut Creek into sponsoring some of us (ISPs and Core Team members) to > do such a thing? Possibly giving away some premiums (cdroms, t-shirts, > etc)? What if FreeBSD, Inc. simply had a booth there and served as a rallying point for any FreeBSD based ISPs? I'm not sure that WC would have a tremendous interest in being there, but we certainly would. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 19:13:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08590 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:13:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@[208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08581 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:13:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA07059; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:12:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <027701bd53ae$e829a460$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "Atipa" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:18:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Jordan K. Hubbard >What if FreeBSD, Inc. simply had a booth there and served as a >rallying point for any FreeBSD based ISPs? I'm not sure that WC would >have a tremendous interest in being there, but we certainly would. > A booth is a good start, but I think there should also be a call for volunteers to hold some number of 1 hour seminars. I would volunteer to do a couple, but I'm afraid it wouldn't be a pretty sight. :) What topics of interest does everyone think we should cover? - development model - installation - administration - security - features - compatibility - scalability - ??? I guess it's a matter of finding out the details of what's needed to move forward with this. Would FreeBSD, Inc. want to take it from here? Or would you like to have someone with some time on their hands to serve as an organizer? If the latter, I'm willing to volunteer, though I will need help with some of the details (like where we could hold after-hours BOFs and whatnot). -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 19:46:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11689 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:46:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11634 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id FAA00902; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:45:57 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803200345.FAA00902@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: from Wm Brian McCane at "Mar 19, 98 04:11:22 pm" To: root@bmccane.maxbaud.net (Wm Brian McCane) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:45:57 +0200 (SAT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > I had already thought of that, guess I should have mentioned it. The > > > makehistory has been running for over 11 hours. I notice it is spending > > > nearly ALL of its time in 'biord' according to top. This is the same > > > thing I noticed with expire. > > > > I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't > > handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM > > or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like > > that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your > > expiry is done and have a look at its output. > > > > Inn and its utilities change automatically over from memory > > based usage to disk based usage for some of its operations > > if it can't allocate enough memory... and then performance > > sucks big time. > > > Actually, I have been running it from my command line the past few times > while testing different versions of INN. If I run limits from the > command line I get: > > Resource limits (current): > cputime infinity secs > filesize infinity kb > datasize 32768 kb > stacksize 16384 kb > coredumpsize infinity kb > memoryuse-cur 131072 kb > memorylocked-cur 32768 kb > maxprocesses 64 > openfiles-cur 256 > > Does this look sufficient? > Nope. The datasize limit is much too small. Try to make it as big as you can... at least for this run and see if it makes a difference. That is the maximum size the data of a process may be in memory. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 19:48:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12010 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from theonlynet.com (port46.slc.celestar.com [207.201.73.77] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11954 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rricci@theonlynet.com) Received: from theonlynet.com (marvin [192.168.1.2]) by theonlynet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16716; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:07:09 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3511BCEF.DE5133C9@theonlynet.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:48:47 -0800 From: Robert Ricci Organization: Kruton,. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modems for dial-ins... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We had very bad luck with using US Robotics modems for dial-in: They failed quite often under a load. Motorolas gave us much better reliability. Robert Ricci rricci@theonlynet.com freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt wrote: > > Hi! > > I am building a machine with 5 external modems > for dial-in access. > > I was thinking about these two: > > - US Robotics Sportster 33.6k > - Supra 33.6k V + > > Which one is best for the job and for dial-out? > (I will buy another one for my home machine) > > Thanks > > -- > \\ Nobody can be exactly like me. \\ Jorge Miguel Goncalves > \\ Sometimes even I have trouble \\ > \\ doing it. \\ jmg (at) mail.EUnet.pt > \\ \\ j (at) bug.fe.up.pt > \\ -- Talluulah Bankhead \\ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 19:53:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12690 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12666 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.8.8/8.8.7) id FAA00972; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:52:40 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199803200352.FAA00972@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Slooow expires (inn 1.5.1 and 1.7.2.insync1.1d) In-Reply-To: from Martin Jangowski at "Mar 19, 98 10:56:14 pm" To: bsd@birdland.rhein-neckar.de (Martin Jangowski) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:52:40 +0200 (SAT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I think you just went over some limit and now the database isn't > > handled in RAM anymore but on disk. It might be not enough RAM > > or the limits in login.conf might be too low or something like > > that. Try running /usr/bin/limits out of cron the same way your > > expiry is done and have a look at its output. > > I tried this with _lots_ of free memory. After rebuilding the .pag and > .dir files it used virtual memory. Something in the .dir file was the > culprit, I think. I was happy to have our newsserver up and running again, > so I didn't investigate. > > The same thing happened twice, and got resolved the same way, I'm fairly > sure that something in the dbz-files was corrupted. Was your limits set high enough? What was the size of your .pag file? Maybe bigger than what your limits allow you to have in memory? The reason doing a makehistory help is because it shrink your database to only the articles you have in your spool. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 20:15:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16514 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16509 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:15:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 16824 invoked by uid 1017); 20 Mar 1998 04:13:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:13:14 -0700 (MST) From: Atipa To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Troy Settle , "\(ML\) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-Reply-To: <20052.890362181@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Also, how about manning a booth on the exhibition floor? Could we talk > > Walnut Creek into sponsoring some of us (ISPs and Core Team members) to > > do such a thing? Possibly giving away some premiums (cdroms, t-shirts, > > etc)? > > What if FreeBSD, Inc. simply had a booth there and served as a > rallying point for any FreeBSD based ISPs? I'm not sure that WC would > have a tremendous interest in being there, but we certainly would. > > Jordan > If we all joined forces under the FreeBSD flag, we could make much more of a splash. It would be really nice to have a big, professional presence rather than a few people spread out in shonky boothes... Economic symbiosis :) I think FreeBSD should flaunt: o Stability o Security o Price o Upgradability (sup, cvs, etc.) o User base (cdrom.com, yahoo.com, whistle, etc.) o Performance (comapared to Linux, NT, etc.) We could also give mini-clinics and do forth. Who do we contact for details? (Dates, location, costs, space available, etc.)? I remember getting the brochure for the one that just past, but I don;t think I still have it. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 20:36:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19154 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@[208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19143 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:36:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA09178; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:35:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <02ec01bd53ba$9949b950$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "Atipa" Cc: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:42:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Atipa >If we all joined forces under the FreeBSD flag, we could make much more of >a splash. It would be really nice to have a big, professional presence >rather than a few people spread out in shonky boothes... Economic >symbiosis :) Agreed. >I think FreeBSD should flaunt: > o Stability > o Security > o Price > o Upgradability (sup, cvs, etc.) > o User base (cdrom.com, yahoo.com, whistle, etc.) > o Performance (comapared to Linux, NT, etc.) good stuff, which do you want to do? ;^) >We could also give mini-clinics and do forth. Who do we contact for >details? (Dates, location, costs, space available, etc.)? I remember >getting the brochure for the one that just past, but I don;t think I still >have it. The convention has tons of opportunities for holding 1 hour seminars. We would just need to figure out topics and sign up. Details can be found at www.ispcon.com, but here's what's not there yet: The fall convention runs from Sep 28 to Oct 1. It's at the San Jose Convention Center in San Jose, CA. Attendee registration cost is $595, but is graduated between now and September. Signups before June 1 are only $295. I don't have any information on vendor registration yet, but will gladly call them next week, and post some information at that time. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 19 21:36:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26432 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:36:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26421 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20780; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:35:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Troy Settle" cc: "Atipa" , "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:18:51 EST." <027701bd53ae$e829a460$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:35:59 -0800 Message-ID: <20776.890372159@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I guess it's a matter of finding out the details of what's needed to move > forward with this. Would FreeBSD, Inc. want to take it from here? Or Not really. FreeBSD, Inc. basically means that *I* would have to do it and I don't have a lot of time. :-) > would you like to have someone with some time on their hands to serve as > an organizer? If the latter, I'm willing to volunteer, though I will Yes, that sounds good. I'm still willing to staff a booth and provide a point of focus, if such is desired, but I'd rather someone else do the legwork of arranging and giving talks - that's just more than I'm able to deal with right now. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 02:49:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05309 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:49:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hack.babel.dk (shredder@hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05304 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:49:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: from localhost (shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17128 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:49:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:49:41 +0100 (CET) From: chrw To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tcpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, anyone has an idear how to setup the "tcp wrapper" tcpd, to query /etc/hosts when looking up/verifying hostnames, *BEFORE* asking named. Dunno if it can be done .. anyone got a hint? Regard, Christoffer Walther Unix administrator. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 03:03:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06507 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06496 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:03:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07183; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:03:02 GMT (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <35124CE6.BD2ECDC1@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:03:02 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chrw CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If it ignores /etc/host.conf (which lists what to search first etc.) - then I don't think you can do a lot... (Though someone else might know)... See what your /etc/host.conf has in it anway... :-) Regards, Karl Pielorz chrw wrote: > > Hello, > > anyone has an idear how to setup the "tcp wrapper" tcpd, to query > /etc/hosts when looking up/verifying hostnames, *BEFORE* asking named. > > Dunno if it can be done .. anyone got a hint? > > Regard, > > Christoffer Walther > Unix administrator. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 07:59:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13795 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from theonlynet.com (port1.slc.celestar.com [207.201.73.32] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13721 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rricci@theonlynet.com) Received: from theonlynet.com (marvin [192.168.1.2]) by theonlynet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04599 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:10:18 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <35129073.24352D59@theonlynet.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:51:15 -0800 From: Robert Ricci Organization: Kruton,. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Funky DNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having some VERY strange things going on with DNS. We recently moved our server (running 2.2.1), and now it has a different IP address. After changing around things in our zone file, things worked great for a day, then strange things started happening: 1) Many of our customers (who use ns3.theonlynet.com for their name server) have reported that their web browsers work fine, but their mail programs get a DNS error when trying to look up mail.theonlynet.com, which is a CNAME for ns3. Typing "mail.theonlynet.com" in the URL line of Netscape brings up our home page correctly. (www, ftp, mail, etc. are CNAMES for ns3 - we're pretty small.) If they have them enter the actual IP of the server in their mail settings, everything pops up fine. Why will Netscape do DNS lookups when Eudora won't? 2) When I try to use "nslookup" from my home FreeBSD machine, I get the error message :"*** Can't find server name for address 201.201.125.66: Non-existent host/domain" and it falls back on another name server. (207.201.125.66 is ns3's IP) However, like our customers, Netscape will do DNS lookups just fine, using that server. Where should I be looking to find a solution for this? By the way, we're running 4.9.4 (I'd appreciate any thoughts on how easy it is to upgrade to 8). Since this odd behavior started, the following line's been showing up in /var/log/messages every time I start named: Mar 20 08:52:58 ns3 named[7825]: Return from getdtablesize() > FD_SETSIZE , but it still comes up and agrees to answer queries. I'd appreciate any pointers you guys could give me, and if you'd like to see a copy of my named.boot and zone files, I'll post 'em. Robert Ricci rricci@theonlynet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 08:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20935 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [208.131.56.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20913 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:31:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: by mx.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA07675; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-SMTP: helo web2.calweb.com from rdugaue@calweb.com server rdugaue@web2.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.52 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:30:56 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Du Gaue To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Troy Settle , Atipa , "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-Reply-To: <20776.890372159@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Yes, that sounds good. I'm still willing to staff a booth and provide > a point of focus, if such is desired, but I'd rather someone else do And has anyone looked into what floor space costs for a convention like this? Unless Rickard is going to give this for free, booth prices these days are nuts. At Internet World a respectable 30x30 or so was $20,000. Do you wanna do it with a splash or a 4x8 table? Even a small 10x10 can probably go for $10k. Something to check into first to see whether the money is there to cough up or will WC sponser this part? :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 08:36:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22258 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:36:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mindcrime.termfrost.org (mindcrime.termfrost.org [208.141.2.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22215 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:36:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Received: from localhost (mandrews@localhost) by mindcrime.termfrost.org (8.8.8/8.8.8/mindcrime-19980218) with SMTP id LAA12508; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Andrews To: Robert Ricci cc: freebsd@bug.fe.up.pt, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modems for dial-ins... In-Reply-To: <3511BCEF.DE5133C9@theonlynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Robert Ricci wrote: > We had very bad luck with using US Robotics modems for dial-in: They > failed > quite often under a load. Motorolas gave us much better reliability. Sportsters or Couriers? Sportsters just aren't built to handle massive dial-in. We used to have a bunch of them and unless you have them VERY well ventilated, you will have problems. (We had a, uh, unique shelving system to keep them separated for ventilation...) Couriers will handle it much better. That's why they cost more. We ended up getting Total Control racks anyway so we could run x2. Mike Andrews/MA12/ICQ 6602506 this chromosome intentionally left blank mandrews@dcr.net -- mandrews@termfrost.org -- http://www.termfrost.org/ Senior Systems & Network Administrator, Digital Crescent, Frankfort, KY Providing x2 Internet Access in Franklin, Anderson, and Shelby Counties To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 08:44:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24216 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24210 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23557; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Robert Du Gaue cc: Troy Settle , Atipa , "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:30:56 PST." Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:44:14 -0800 Message-ID: <23554.890412254@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Do you wanna do it with a splash or a 4x8 table? Even a small 10x10 can > probably go for $10k. Something to check into first to see whether the > money is there to cough up or will WC sponser this part? :-) This is a good point - I hadn't factored in the rising costs of these things. :) Does anyone know the price of a table? Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 09:26:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05717 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:26:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uhf.wireless.net ([209.189.23.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05673 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02055; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:25:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:25:19 -0800 (PST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Robert Ricci cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Funky DNS In-Reply-To: <35129073.24352D59@theonlynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Robert: > I'm having some VERY strange things going on with DNS. We recently moved > our server (running 2.2.1), and now it has a different IP address. After ^^^^^^^^^ > changing around things in our zone file, things worked great for a day, > then strange things started happening: > 1) Many of our customers (who use ns3.theonlynet.com for their name > server) have reported that their web browsers work fine, but their mail > programs get a DNS error when trying to look up mail.theonlynet.com, > which is a CNAME for ns3. Typing "mail.theonlynet.com" in the URL line > of Netscape brings up our home page correctly. (www, ftp, mail, etc. are > CNAMES for ns3 - we're pretty small.) If they have them enter the actual > IP of the server in their mail settings, everything pops up fine. Why > will Netscape do DNS lookups when Eudora won't? > 2) When I try to use "nslookup" from my home FreeBSD machine, I get the > error message :"*** Can't find server name for address 201.201.125.66: > Non-existent host/domain" and it falls back on another name server. > (207.201.125.66 is ns3's IP) However, like our customers, Netscape will > do DNS lookups just fine, using that server. > > Where should I be looking to find a solution for this? By the way, we're Check your reverse DNS files. I bet you they are misconfigured (set up for the old subnet). What is 201.201.125.66? Our upstream provider doesn't even have a route to it.. Is this the old address of your ns3? If so, fix /etc/resolv.conf on your home FreeBSD machine to point to the correct IP address. > running 4.9.4 (I'd appreciate any thoughts on how easy it is to upgrade > to 8). Since this odd behavior started, the following line's been > showing up in /var/log/messages every time I start named: > Mar 20 08:52:58 ns3 named[7825]: Return from getdtablesize() > > FD_SETSIZE > , but it still comes up and agrees to answer queries Used to get that on an old DNS, but after we cleanly upgraded to FreeBSD 2.2.5 it went away. I just upgraded several of our DNSs to 8 and couldn't have been simpler. You download bind8, compile it, install it, run your old named.boot through the perl script, get your named.conf out of it, and start the new named. We needed several features in 8. I was hesitant to ugprade, but glad I did. Best Regards, Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 10:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16584 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:10:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16567 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:10:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08266; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:09:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:09:52 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Robert Ricci cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Funky DNS In-Reply-To: <35129073.24352D59@theonlynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Robert Ricci wrote: > Where should I be looking to find a solution for this? By the way, we're > running 4.9.4 (I'd appreciate any thoughts on how easy it is to upgrade > to 8). Since this odd behavior started, the following line's been > showing up in /var/log/messages every time I start named: > Mar 20 08:52:58 ns3 named[7825]: Return from getdtablesize() > > FD_SETSIZE > , but it still comes up and agrees to answer queries. Upgrading is easy. The supplied script to convert named.boot to named.conf works just fine. If you have scripts that update named.boot you will need to change them to use the new file and format. Zone files aren't changed. BIND 8 lets you specify which IP address(es) to listen on and will fix the error message and quite possibly the problem. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 10:37:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23573 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.calweb.com (mx.calweb.com [208.131.56.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23567 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdugaue@calweb.com) Received: by mx.calweb.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA26750; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:36:07 -0800 (PST) X-SMTP: helo web2.calweb.com from rdugaue@calweb.com server rdugaue@web2.calweb.com ip 208.131.56.52 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:36:06 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Du Gaue To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Troy Settle , Atipa , "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON In-Reply-To: <23554.890412254@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This is a good point - I hadn't factored in the rising costs of these > things. :) Does anyone know the price of a table? I've got a call into the ISPCON guy at Boardwatch. He is still away at the Baltimore conf, cleaning up I suppose, but will be in next week. I'll report back what I find out to the list. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 11:01:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28696 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:01:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bsd.megaworks.com (bsd.megaworks.com [209.50.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28689 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from elmo (ppp-107.m2-18.tor.ican.net [142.154.23.107]) by bsd.megaworks.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04146; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:00:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Segal" To: "Robert Ricci" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: Funky DNS Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:58:36 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5432$303639c0$0201010a@elmo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >BIND 8 lets you specify which IP address(es) to listen on and will >fix the error message and quite possibly the problem. 1) Just be carefull when upgrading make sure the listen-on directive is stated in the option braces to state the local host 127.0.0.1 and the of the IP of the InterNIC dns machine only otherwise it will open a file pointer to every ip bound to the machine, and from experience, that is a pane in the (pardon the language) ass. 2) the reason everything worked for a day or so is the time to live record on you dns probably expired after a day.. also i can't seem to get to your bind server. So unless you found a way to not allow people to nslookup into your machine, your bind server is not running.. so people are geeting their info from your secondary (upstream provider) 3) also i did a whois on theonlynet.com, and i see to other nameservers listed.. are they still operating, and if they are are they pointing things to the right locations? i think that 's about all :). Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 12:22:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16139 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16094 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12475; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:21:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:21:24 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey To: chrw cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tcpd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, > > anyone has an idear how to setup the "tcp wrapper" tcpd, to query > /etc/hosts when looking up/verifying hostnames, *BEFORE* asking named. > > Dunno if it can be done .. anyone got a hint? Take a look at host.conf, it should be fairly obvious what to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 13:27:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29336 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:27:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt050n33.san.rr.com (Studded@dt050n33.san.rr.com [204.210.31.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29291 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from localhost (dougdougdougdoug@localhost) by dt050n33.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA04998; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:26:15 GMT (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Studded X-Sender: dougdougdougdoug@dt050n33.san.rr.com To: Robert Ricci cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Funky DNS In-Reply-To: <35129073.24352D59@theonlynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Robert Ricci wrote: > I'm having some VERY strange things going on with DNS. We recently moved > our server (running 2.2.1), and now it has a different IP address. After > changing around things in our zone file, things worked great for a day, > then strange things started happening: I think someone else already addressed the fact that the new thing wasn't working, the old thing hadn't stopped working yet. Before I get started, I should warn you to brace yourself. You have a lot of problems with your dns setup. I *strongly* recommend that you pick up the book DNS and BIND, Second edition from O'Reilly and Associates. It's a requirement for anyone who does DNS. > 1) Many of our customers (who use ns3.theonlynet.com for their name > server) have reported that their web browsers work fine, but their mail > programs get a DNS error when trying to look up mail.theonlynet.com, > which is a CNAME for ns3. Never ever use a cname in an mx record. Instead, make an A record for mail like this: mail IN A 207.201.125.66 > Typing "mail.theonlynet.com" in the URL line > of Netscape brings up our home page correctly. (www, ftp, mail, etc. are > CNAMES for ns3 - we're pretty small.) If they have them enter the actual > IP of the server in their mail settings, everything pops up fine. Why > will Netscape do DNS lookups when Eudora won't? It did do the lookup, and it got an error. Eudora is working just like it should. > 2) When I try to use "nslookup" from my home FreeBSD machine, If you're going to do DNS on a professional level learn how to use dig and host. Nslookup is not very useful, however it did help you find an error in this case. :) > I get the > error message :"*** Can't find server name for address 201.201.125.66: > Non-existent host/domain" This error means that that IP address does not reverse resolve. Look it over carefully. I think the first 201 should be a 207. However, that won't solve the problem since 207.201.125.66 doesn't resolve either. You don't have PTR records for that in-addr.arpa address. The 125.201.207.in-addr.arpa domain is being operated by celestar.com which looks like your upstream provider. You need to get them to set up PTR records for you or delegate your netblock to you. > and it falls back on another name server. > (207.201.125.66 is ns3's IP) However, like our customers, Netscape will > do DNS lookups just fine, using that server. You've uncovered one of nslookup's deficiencies. :) Unfortunately your bad news isn't over. Your NS records with internic look out of date. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.THEONLYNET.COM 206.29.203.3 NS2.THEONLYNET.COM 206.29.203.1 NS3.THEONLYNET.COM 207.201.125.66 I can't reach either of the first two servers. 6 mci-sca-billing-eli.Seattle.mci.net (166.48.204.6) 146.147 ms 139.266 ms 136.126 ms 7 * * mci-sca-billing-eli.Seattle.mci.net (166.48.204.6) 168.984 ms !H 8 * * mci-sca-billing-eli.Seattle.mci.net (166.48.204.6) 239.229 ms !H Now, it looks like someone is taking a look at your zone files as I write this since the first line of your SOA just changed from theonlynet.com. 3600 SOA theonlynet.com. ns3.theonlynet.com. ( to theonlynet.com. 3600 SOA ns3.theonlynet.com. sysadmin.ns3.theonlynet.com. Now replace that 3600 with IN and you're in business. :) However you don't have any NS records at all, which is a problem. > Where should I be looking to find a solution for this? This is a good place. You should also consider hiring someone to deal with this. > By the way, we're > running 4.9.4 (I'd appreciate any thoughts on how easy it is to upgrade > to 8). You should place a HIGH priority on upgrading to 2.2.5-Release as soon as possible, and 2.2.6-Release as soon as it's available. This will upgrade your Bind to 4.9.6 which will close the huge security hole that you have now, and improve your OS situation as well. Don't even consider upgrading to bind 8 until your zones are straightened out. You would be adding an unecessary level of complexity otherwise. > Since this odd behavior started, the following line's been > showing up in /var/log/messages every time I start named: > Mar 20 08:52:58 ns3 named[7825]: Return from getdtablesize() > > FD_SETSIZE The kernel is not configured to handle the load you're putting on it. Once you upgrade to 2.2.5 you should increase the number of maxusers in your kernel and recompile it. I hope it's not considered crass for me to offer professional services on this list, but if you don't have any local help that you have confidence in please feel free to respond to me privately and we can discuss terms. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 13:56:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04565 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from theonlynet.com (port8.slc.celestar.com [207.201.73.39] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04410 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:55:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rricci@NS3.theonlynet.com) Received: from theonlynet.com (marvin [192.168.1.2]) by theonlynet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07570 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:33:04 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3512DC1B.C808F3C2@theonlynet.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:14:03 -0800 From: Robert Ricci Organization: Kruton,. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Funky DNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I've tried the suggestions given to me, but with no luck: 1) I've upgraded to Bind8, no problem (It did stop the "getdtablesize() > > FD_SETSIZE" error. 2) I've rebuilt my zone files for forward and reverse lookup on our domain. Now, the only A records for theonlynet.com are ns3 and ns1 (an older server we keep around just for kicks.) theonlynet.com., www, ftp, mail, etc are all CNAMEs of this machine, and my MX record points directly to an A record. 3) I've notified InterNIC about the changes to our DNS servers. The records still showed an NS1, NS2, and NS3, when all they should have showed was NS3. Still, I get the same error from nslookup. Will this fix itself when the InterNIC stuff goes through? Also, while we're on the subject, I've got one more question about bind. Is it possible, for reverse lookups, to point to another server as authoritative for a certain block of IPs? We no longer have our own class C, and we don't want to have to add every IP we use to our upstream provider's (the owners of 207.201.125) server every time we add another virtual. We are only using the IPs 207.201.125.66-128. Thanks! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- # Robert Ricci || # # "If you try to reduce all this to rational rules you will simply # # give yourself the task of going rationally insane." --Montaigne # -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 14:35:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13094 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uhf.wireless.net ([209.189.23.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13053 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bad@shf.wireless.net) Received: from shf.wireless.net (shf [209.189.23.56]) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02523; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by shf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00900; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:18 -0800 (PST) From: Bernie Doehner To: Robert Ricci cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Funky DNS In-Reply-To: <3512DC1B.C808F3C2@theonlynet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:14:03 -0800 > From: Robert Ricci > To: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: Re: Funky DNS > > Well, I've tried the suggestions given to me, but with no luck: > 1) I've upgraded to Bind8, no problem (It did stop the "getdtablesize() This in itself won't fix misconfigured/missing DNS tables, of which I am convinced you have a few, and re-reading my previously sent message, I didn't outwardly suggest that you upgrade to fix your problems. I just answered your question about how difficult it was for us to ugprade, but then our tables are more or less in order. > > FD_SETSIZE" error. > 2) I've rebuilt my zone files for forward and reverse lookup on our > domain. Now, the only A records for theonlynet.com are ns3 and ns1 (an > older server we keep around just for kicks.) theonlynet.com., www, ftp, > mail, etc are all CNAMEs of this machine, and my MX record points > directly to an A record. > 3) I've notified InterNIC about the changes to our DNS servers. The > records still showed an NS1, NS2, and NS3, when all they should have > showed was NS3. > > Still, I get the same error from nslookup. Will this fix itself when the > InterNIC stuff goes through? > Also, while we're on the subject, I've got one more question about bind. > Is it possible, for reverse lookups, to point to another server as > authoritative for a certain block of IPs? We no longer have our own > class C, and we don't want to have to add every IP we use to our > upstream provider's (the owners of 207.201.125) server every time we add > another virtual. We are only using the IPs 207.201.125.66-128. > Well, I don't think your reverse DNSing is working. nslookup server ns3.theonlynet.com 207.201.125.66 still fails.. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 15:27:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28551 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:27:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fddi.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28388 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 28041 invoked from network); 20 Mar 1998 23:32:06 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) (@127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 20 Mar 1998 23:32:06 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3510F7AE.694C09DD@tdx.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:32:06 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Karl Pielorz Subject: Re: DPT PM3334UW + Intel 100 Etherexpress problems Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Jay Tribick Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Mar-98 Karl Pielorz wrote: > The DPT and the Intel are on different IRQs? - I Know PCI stuff is > 'meant' > to work on shared IRQs, but I've had a few problems with it in the > past... Should not be a problem. I have run 2 DPTs and 4 of these Intels on the same IRQ, or separate IRQ. That's not the reason. > Does moving the Intel to a different slot help at all? That could be it. Some slots on some MBs are non-mastering, ugly or broken. Let me know what hardware configuration you are using and what success/failure you have. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 16:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08592 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gwis.com (droberts@darcy.gwis.com [209.57.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08587 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from droberts@gwis.com) Received: from localhost (droberts@localhost) by gwis.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA16988 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:19:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:19:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Roberts To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: merit radius unix pw auth problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm attempting to set up the merit radiusd (from the ports collection) as a backup radius server. It's authenticating PPP sessions from the users file just fine, however what I can't get it to do is properly log users into their shell accounts. We're using livingston portmasters.. the primary radius server is livingston's and works fine. What it should do is look through the users file and if the username does not exist, pass the username and password to our shell machine for a remote login session. Any idea how this can be accomplished? -- Dan Roberts, http://gwis.com/~droberts Gateway to Internet Services sysadmin/ircadmin, Strahd on DALnet IRC for Internet access in NE Ohio Dragons Hockey, http://rm-rf.net/dragons http://www.gwis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 20 20:43:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13392 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@[208.24.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13383 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from abyss (old@b.nu [208.24.67.58]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA16513 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:42:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001d01bd5484$b24d0450$3a4318d0@abyss.b.nu> From: "Troy Settle" To: "(ML) FreeBSD ISP" Subject: Re: ISPCON Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:49:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Robert Du Gaue >> This is a good point - I hadn't factored in the rising costs of these >> things. :) Does anyone know the price of a table? > >I've got a call into the ISPCON guy at Boardwatch. He is still away at the >Baltimore conf, cleaning up I suppose, but will be in next week. I'll >report back what I find out to the list. I was waiting for next week to roll around to call Boardwatch about this. I had already figured that they would still be in Baltimore. I guess 2 calls won't hurt. :) Perhaps if someone grovels enough, we can get a decent price on it. It might be worth pointing out that there was lots of unused space at the Baltimore convention. Add to that the fact that FreeBSD is freeware, Rickard just might cut some slack. -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 21 08:02:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21186 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21178; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 08:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07251; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:05:34 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:05:31 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl Subject: ANNOUNCE: PicoBSD 0.31 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I am pleased to announce that PicoBSD version 0.31 is available. This is a version of FreeBSD fitting on a single floppy - it can serve as a dialup-access tool (includes SSH, telnet and FTP clients), or as a small router replacement (includes IP firewall and SNMP agent). Visit http://www.freebsd.org/~abial for further information and download. Have fun! Andrzej Bialecki ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- abial@warman.org.pl | if(halt_per_mth > 0) { fetch("http://www.freebsd.org") } Research & Academic | "Be open-minded, but don't let your brains to fall out." Network in Poland | All of the above (and more) is just my personal opinion. ---------------------+--------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 21 12:40:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25294 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25287 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@memra.com) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA09576; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA28572; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:39:32 -0800 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:39:30 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: linuxisp@friendly.jeffnet.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: GPL'ed Billing and Administration (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:09:32 -0500 (EST) From: Ivan Kohler Reply-To: inet-access@earth.com To: inet-access@earth.com Subject: ANNOUNCE: GPL'ed Billing and Administration Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:51:25 -0700 (MST) Resent-From: inet-access@earth.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello, I'd like to announce the release of Freeside, a GPL'ed billing and administration package for ISPs. Please check out http://www.sisd.com/freeside if you are interested in using or helping to develop a free billing package. - -- Ivan Kohler - finger for PGP key Silicon Interactive Software Design - http://www.sisd.com/ "I want to go on a mountain-top / with a radio and good batteries play a joyous tune / and free the whole human race from suffering" -Bjork -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNRM9gb7OPBeQJv09AQEY3QP+LElfgn58BMT9DS0aJtRcF4GkvxZEAqEZ lo1keKCyU1FtVBfvSsP0VXjTFsIfzUbDqyHJKXnaXV5wkuDYJqOr9sfN/hFc7ypj t9yRnM6Y24BOGkuq/m7GAJ27VyDuoD1oMk3CT7ySSljAc9Tb3E4AX6F+P7LPlS5d kr2Q5TtA7rk= =kUU8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 21 14:46:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14699 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14599 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luiz@nlink.com.br) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28610 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:14:45 -0300 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:14:45 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Internet Telephony Gateway. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear ALL, Does anybody know of an Internet Telephony Gateway like Vocaltec's and Dialogic's products? Luiz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message