From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 19 9:25: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 19 09:25:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E9737B400 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA74326; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:24:54 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20001219120619.020cbac0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:25:43 -0500 To: Poul-Henning Kamp From: Dennis Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, Solaris, and NT Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <43070.977244298@critter> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:44 AM 12/19/2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In message <5.0.0.25.0.20001219111044.020739e0@mail.etinc.com>, Dennis= writes: > > > >>Device Drivers > >>-------------- > >>I don=B4t like binary only device drivers. The code of an operating > >>system is more complex than a driver. if a company does not want to > >>publish the sourcecode, the should go away. > > > >You've lost all credibility here. > >We have a saying in Denmark, which I'm sure exist in as many forms >as there are languages in the world: > > "A thief belive everybody steals." > >Dennis, considering the recorded history of your arguments in our >mailing list archives, hearing you come out and praise closed source >drivers for open source OS's rings very very hollow. did you even read my comments, you blubbering moron? lol. I said NOTHING=20 about theft. Zero. I guess you dont read english very well. I didnt "praise" closed source. I said there is arguable reasoning behind=20 preferring supported binary drivers that work over incomplete source=20 drivers. Selecting an OS based solely on this criteria is just plain=20 stupid. Drivers generally do not require changes unless they are buggy. And= =20 the general public is generally no capable of maintaining a card driver=20 with intricate knowledge of the controllers, which is no simple task. We have a saying in the US. "communism failed because its very essence=20 breeds mediocrity". Your inabiltity to understand a business model that=20 includes protecting corporate-funded assets, when MOST of the world's=20 corporations adhere exclusively to such a model, shows how little you know= =20 about business in general. Your stupidity is also is emphasized by the fact that no major manufacturer= =20 has supported drivers for freebsd. Intel wont even help by providing docs.= =20 Bravo. What a WIN for the freebsd community. You've done a tremendous job=20 marketing your concept. Am I a thief because my company provides value added solutions without=20 source to our enhancements on a freebsd platform? If you are insulted that= =20 other people are using your work without paying for it then it sounds like= =20 you dont fit in very well with the "open source" community Mr. Kamp. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message