From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Nov 24 17: 1:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDD037B401 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE7F43E91 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 17:01:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB0E51906; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:31:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:31:46 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Peter Leftwich , FreeBSD Questions LIST Subject: Re: Ports base? Message-ID: <20021125010146.GF90600@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021124000210.A219-100000@dhcp-407-32.san.rr.com> <20021124081251.GA60642@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20021125001831.GD90600@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021125005107.GA64948@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021125005107.GA64948@rot13.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 24 November 2002 at 16:51:07 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:48:31AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 24 November 2002 at 0:12:51 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 12:03:46AM -0800, Peter Leftwich wrote: >>>> I tried to install just the ports "base" using sysinstall but it >>>> started to download the entire ports collection, and my HD space is >>>> limited. >>> >>> I didn't think that sysinstall allowed you to install parts of the >>> ports collection, only the entire collection (which is about 9MB). >> >> Those were the days. I've just checked out the ports tree, and it's >> 314 MB! This is probably partially a consequence of the larger file >> system block size on modern systems, and also of course because of the >> CVS directories (each of which takes up 16 kB), for a total of 128 MB. >> Even without them, though, that leaves 186 MB. > > You're correct I was underestimating (I was thinking of the compressed > ports.tar.gz file), but my CVS ports tree is only 204MB including CVS > directories, so I think you're overestimating (perhaps you included > the distfiles/ directory?) Nope, as I said, I checked out a completely new tree from the repository. FWIW, my real ports tree (including distfiles) runs to 3.1 GB. I'd guess that your file system block size is smaller than mine. The default for new file systems is now 16 kB block and 2 kB fragments, and since nearly every file in the Ports Collection is smaller than the old 512 bytes fragment size, this means that they are now 1.5 kB larger. My ports tree currently has 170,000 files in it (including distfiles, admittedly; I don't want to check out again), so that's in the right ball park. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message