From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 14 22:14:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16794106566C for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACFB8FC0C for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-23-67.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.23.67]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B795B3CCA5; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:14:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n8EMEQmA002461; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:14:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:14:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: utisoft@googlemail.com Message-Id: <20090915001426.2b49e1ca.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <0016364c76f59b1d70047390d3ee@google.com> References: <484063.93124.qm@web51008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <0016364c76f59b1d70047390d3ee@google.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Richard Mahlerwein Subject: Re: Dump/Restore? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:14:30 -0000 On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:02:49 +0000, utisoft@googlemail.com wrote: > Yeah, unfortunately I still think of 'folders', and am continually > wrong-footed by the term 'directory' in a graphical environment, even after > years of GNU and FreeBSD use..... Just imagine if the Xerox Alto and its first GUI wouldn't have been invented in the US, but in Germany. Then we would refer to "ring binders" or "lever arch folders", or "ordners" or "actenordner" (the german word is "der Ordner" or "der Akten- ordner"). Surely, this would be the default symbol: http://www.officexl.de/kopierpapier/images/ordner.jpg And all paper sizes defaults would refer to DIN A4 in the first place... what a beautiful imagination! :-) > I have all sorts of strange habits that many will recognise as symptoms of > multi-booting and running servers. There's no shame in that! Please don't get me wrong: There are correct places to use the term "folder", e. g. when talking about "mail folders" (which can be represented as files (mbox) or directories with files (MH) on the disk level). But in the case discussed, "directory" is the correct term. There's no need to change proven terminology just because some company indoctrinates you to do so. :-) How important it is to use the correct terminology is when users start asking you questions about their "modems" (refers to PC), their "TV" and their "brains" (refers to speakers), or start complaining that "the file system is too big" (refers to the icon size in the file manager used), and want "the same pictures at home as I have them at work" (refers to the OS). To sum it up in quite your own words: "I have all sorts of strange habits that many will recognise as symptoms of asperger's syndrome. There's no shame in that!" :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...