From owner-freebsd-java Sat May 1 12: 2: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABAFC14CC3 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb-freebsd@gba.oz.au) Received: (qmail 15569 invoked by uid 1001); 1 May 1999 02:14:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990501021459.15568.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:14:58 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Chuck Robey Cc: jgrosch@mooseriver.com, Nate Williams , Mark Heath , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motif not available? References: In-reply-to: of Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:39:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I spoke to several people at XIG about Motif for FreeBSD 3.x. They assured > > me they are working on a version and will be shipping at the beginning of > > this summer. It would be a good idea if people called them and asked when > > they will be shipping Motif for FreeBSD. Metro Link (www.metrolink.com) and > > Apps2go (www.apps2go.com) are now shipping Motif 2.1.10 for FreeBSD 3.x > > That's what they told me, when I asked them 5 months before > FreeBSD-current went elf. I explained in very plain language what was > happening, and why they should bring out a new version. They said they > were, so I began to ask them once a month "where is it, here's my money, > please take it". About 6 months later, they finally admitted they'd > done nothing on it, and they weren't going to. They'd lied to me the > whole time. That's completely typical for that company. I spent a full year trying to force money on them for one of their products for a different platform and got vague promises, serious promises, long silences, rude responses -- everything possible except the product. > Maybe they've changed their mind again. They now have 2 competitors, > and a bunch of old customers who were screwed. I don't think it's a > great idea to wait too long on XIG *finally* coming to market with an > ELF Motif. Even if they do, their other unattractive habit is arbitrarily abandoning customers who have invested money for a product that they lose interest in or running on a platform that they lose interest in. Definitely a company to avoid. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message