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Date:      Mon, 6 Apr 2015 12:26:53 -0600
From:      Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>
To:        Anton Farber <dr_sweety_1337@hotmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD sometimes uses the router for packets on the local network
Message-ID:  <CAOtMX2izwRe_7K6ZjJOzbAwRcQLy2mRh0V6CRR3Lh7u8UXe9fA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Anton Farber
<dr_sweety_1337@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> I've opened a thread on the FreeBSD networking forum (https://forums.free=
bsd.org/threads/jail-fails-to-connect-to-main-host.50833/) as sometime ago =
my FreeBSD server (initially running 10.1, now CURRENT) started to behave s=
trangely after an upgrade from 10.0 to 10.1. I first noticed that a jail (1=
92.168.1.5) wasn't able to contact the base system (192.168.1.1). Running a=
 tcpdump revealed the following: the jail is using em0 instead of lo0 for c=
ommunicating with the base system:


You need to look at your routing tables.  From inside the jail, run
"netstat -rn -f inet".  You probably won't see any entry for 127.0.0.1
or 127.0.0.0/8.  Those are the entries that your jail needs in order
to talk to the base system.  You can add them, but think carefully.
Many server processes, such as ntpd, have reduced security for
connections coming over 127.0.0.1.  Whether or not it is appropriate
to add those routes depends on why you are using a jail.

-Alan



>
> ------------------------
> * tcpdump on em0
> Source      Destination Protocol Length Info
> 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.1 TCP      74     28848=E2=86=9222 [SYN]
> * tcpdump on lo0
> Source      Destination Protocol Length Info
> 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.5 TCP      64     22=E2=86=9228848 [SYN, ACK]
> ------------------------
>
> I don't think that this is the way it's supposed to work. Next thing was,=
 that random hosts on the network were unable to contact the server. The se=
rver on the other hand thought it needed to reach those hosts (in this exam=
ple 192.168.1.61) via the router:
>
> ------------------------
> # ping -c 1 192.168.1.61
> PING 192.168.1.61 (192.168.1.61): 56 data bytes
> 36 bytes from router.local.lan (192.168.1.254): Redirect Host(New addr: 1=
92.168.1.61)
> Vr HL TOS  Len   ID Flg  off TTL Pro  cks      Src      Dst
> 4  5  00 0054 a734   0 0000  40  01 4fe6 192.168.1.1  192.168.1.61
>
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.61: icmp_seq=3D0 ttl=3D64 time=3D1.009 ms
>
> --- 192.168.1.61 ping statistics ---
> 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev =3D 1.009/1.009/1.009/0.000 ms#
> ------------------------
>
> Other hosts on the same network were able to reach 192.168.1.61 directly,=
 so it can't be neither 192.168.1.61 nor the router (I do not have any stat=
ic routes for 192.168.1.61/32 on my router) that are causing the problems. =
Status on the server:
>
> ------------------------
> # arp -a
> server.local.Lan (192.168.1.1) at 00:1c:c0:6f:c2:60 on em0 permanent [eth=
ernet]
> laptop.local.Lan (192.168.1.32) at 5c:26:0a:2a:37:10 on em0 expires in 11=
97 seconds [ethernet]
> jail.local.Lan (192.168.1.5) at 00:1c:c0:6f:c2:60 on em0 permanent [ether=
net]
> WinXP.local.Lan (192.168.1.4) at 08:00:27:80:b8:10 on em0 expires in 1200=
 seconds [ethernet]
> ? (192.168.1.61) at 00:04:20:05:31:38 on em0 expires in 1150 seconds [eth=
ernet]
> ? (192.168.1.255) at (incomplete) on em0 expired [ethernet]
> Router.local.Lan (192.168.1.254) at 00:0d:b9:00:11:68 on em0 expires in 1=
150 seconds [ethernet]
> Phone.local.Lan (192.168.1.21) at 00:0e:08:bc:ed:94 on em0 expires in 799=
 seconds [ethernet]
> # netstat -rn
> Routing tables
>
> Internet:
> Destination        Gateway            Flags      Netif Expire
> default            192.168.1.254      UGS        em0
> 127.0.0.1          link#2             UH         lo0
> 192.168.1.0/24     link#1             U          em0
> 192.168.1.1        link#1             UHS        lo0
> 192.168.1.5        link#1             UHS        lo0
> 192.168.1.5/32     link#1             U          em0
>
> Internet6:
> Destination                       Gateway                       Flags    =
  Netif Expire
> ::/96                             ::1                           UGRS     =
  lo0
> ::1                               link#2                        UH       =
  lo0
> ::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                 ::1                           UGRS     =
  lo0
> fe80::/10                         ::1                           UGRS     =
  lo0
> fe80::%lo0/64                     link#2                        U        =
  lo0
> fe80::1%lo0                       link#2                        UHS      =
  lo0
> fe80::%tun0/64                    link#4                        U        =
 tun0
> fe80::21c:c0ff:fe6f:c260%tun0     link#4                        UHS      =
  lo0
> ff02::/16                         ::1                           UGRS     =
  lo0
> ------------------------
>
> So the server knew the (correct) MAC address of .61 but still tried to re=
ach it via the router. I've run a tcpdump on em0, this is where things get =
interesting:
>
> ------------------------
> No. Time      Source        Destination  Protocol Length Info
> 186 1.028186  192.168.1.1   192.168.1.61 ICMP     98     Echo (ping) requ=
est  id=3D0x2220, seq=3D0/0, ttl=3D64 (reply in 190)
>
> Ethernet II, Src: IntelCor_6f:c2:60 (00:1c:c0:6f:c2:60), Dst: PcEngine_00=
:11:68 (00:0d:b9:00:11:68)
>
> No. Time      Source        Destination Protocol Length Info
> 189 1.029008  192.168.1.254 192.168.1.1 ICMP     70     Redirect         =
    (Redirect for host)
>
> Ethernet II, Src: PcEngine_00:11:68 (00:0d:b9:00:11:68), Dst: IntelCor_6f=
:c2:60 (00:1c:c0:6f:c2:60)
>
> No. Time      Source        Destination Protocol Length Info
> 190 1.029392  192.168.1.61  192.168.1.1 ICMP     98     Echo (ping) reply=
    id=3D0x2220, seq=3D0/0, ttl=3D64 (request in 186)
>
> Ethernet II, Src: SlimDevi_05:31:38 (00:04:20:05:31:38), Dst: IntelCor_6f=
:c2:60 (00:1c:c0:6f:c2:60)
> ------------------------
>
> The server issues an echo request for .61 but is using the router's MAC a=
ddress (:68)! Obviously the router answers with a redirect..
>
> I've shut down all daemons and kernel modules if possible until just the =
absolute bare minimum (sshd, init and some other base services) was running=
. I've upgraded to CURRENT. This didn't change anything. What helped in the=
 end was issuing a "route flush ; route add default 192.168.1.254": the ser=
ver was immediately able to contact .61 directly.
>
> The problem seemingly appears randomly, sometimes it takes weeks for it t=
o reappear.
>
> Sorry for the long post, I've tried to keep it as compact as possible. Do=
es anyone have any idea what might be causing those problems?
>
> Regards, Anton
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