From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 25 12:01:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED68716A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773CD43D39 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:01:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1DQ2Gt-000C9O-Jx for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:01:03 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with nmh-1.0.4 To: current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:01:03 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Subject: serial/ether console & ramblings X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 12:01:05 -0000 hi, I was about to plunge in and 'try' to cleanup the serial console stuff, when it downed on me that newer machines are arriving without serial port! there goes that idea. So USB/serial dongle came to mind, might work, but messy, FireWire is not universaly available. So, why not serial over ethernet? IPMI 'was' to have solved this, but it will (if at all) work on server class MB only, and im still looking for a Unix Viewer. In my case, i have been using the serial console to debug stuff, but being of the old school, i try to stay away from debuggers :-), so printf and stack trace will do. So here are some of my quesions: o - is there some standard? ok, refrase, are there some standards? o - any WIP?, i'm checking out Robert Watson's ethercons o - any great ideas? danny