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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:00:29 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror)))
Message-ID:  <15322.12637.939947.887493@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011024120609.F28396@wantadilla.lemis.com>
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Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> types:
> On Tuesday, 23 October 2001 at 20:32:26 -0600, Brett Glass wrote:
> > At 08:14 PM 10/23/2001, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> In the democracies of which I'm aware, there is a due course of
> >> justice.  It doesn't involve invading places and shooting first.
> >
> > Yes, it does -- in cases where it is warranted. 
> 
> You're dodging the subject.  Anyway, you're also wrong.  In the
> democracies of which *I'm* aware, there is a due course of justice.
> It doesn't involve invading places and shooting first.  Any such
> invasion is outside the law.  If you can make me aware of any
> democracy whose laws allow this, then you will be right.

The United States of America's laws allow this. "Knockless warrants"
are commonly issued in cases where the evidence is easily destroyed or
armed resistance is expected. It's expected the officers will go in
armed for such things. At which point, the rules regarding use of
firepower by the police come into play. There are conditions under
which an officer can shoot first.

	<mike
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