From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 12:22:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sammy.tibco.com (sammy.TIBCO.COM [192.216.111.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DDA15289 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aram@tibco.com) Received: from osgood.tibco.com (osgood.tibco.com [160.101.240.42]) by sammy.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01504 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.tibco.com (venus.tibco.com [160.101.240.40]) by osgood.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28878 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tibco.com ([160.101.22.192]) by venus.tibco.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4E58; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:17:46 -0700 Message-ID: <379E063E.D5FCB9DB@tibco.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:19:26 -0700 From: "Aram Compeau" Organization: TIBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: caa@midgard.dhs.org, maniattb@cs.rpi.edu, Doug@gorean.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards References: <199907271907.MAA18215@george.lbl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jin, It's not so much that they need to make a uniprocessor Celeron but instead that they protect the P-II & P-III cash cows. If you can run a dual-CPU system with $60 Celerons that is, for all practical purposes, exactly as fast as a system with $250 P-III's, then why would you spend the extra money? Realize that it costs almost the same amount of money to manufacture both CPU's (not quite, but very close). Intel downplays the Celerons as 'low-end' CPU's when benchmarks put the lie to that marketing spin. Now the size of the on chip cache will make a difference under some circumstances (esp. with certain server situations), but most workstation usage will see equivalent performance with a dual Celeron system. So, since this could seriously undercut their profit margins, Intel is taking steps to ensure that corporate users must fill Intel's coffers by buying expensive P-III's instead of Celerons. >:-\ So, while I'd agree that there isn't a good technical reason to prohibit multi-CPU Celeron systems, there is a great profitability reason (from Intel's standpoint, of course :-). Aram jin@george.lbl.gov wrote: > > If your going to go for the dual Celeron boards, get your CPUs fast. > > Intel has supposedly started marking Celerons as Uniprocessor only, and > > will be changing the die to guarantee it. This article from The Register > > talks more about it. > > Has this a seriously confirmed? > The story I heard was that Intel will combine the P-II, P-III, and Celeron > techonogy to make a new Celeron; maybe the person who told me this story > is wrong, but I could not think what is the good reason for Intel to make > Uniprocessor Celeron. > > -Jin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message