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Date:      Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:33:44 PST
From:      Bill Fenner <fenner@parc.xerox.com>
To:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Poor connectivity to freebsd.org ...
Message-ID:  <96Nov3.143345pst.177557@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>

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I know this comes up occasionally, but here it is again.  I'm experiencing
pretty bad loss through CRL to both wcarchive and freefall.  Interestingly,
the paths are different, implying that either CRL or MCI is confused.

The path to freefall is:

 3  paloalto-cr7.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.41)  30.734 ms  29.428 ms  27.347 ms
 4  paloalto-mci.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.202)  32.157 ms  30.227 ms  29.911 ms
 5  bordercore4-hssi0-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.19.249)  39.666 ms  33.467 ms  31.616 ms
 6  mae-east-nap.Washington.mci.net (204.70.1.214)  109.955 ms  118.960 ms  115.936 ms
 7  mae-east-nap.Washington.mci.net (204.70.1.214)  113.201 ms  109.630 ms  107.709 ms
 8  mae-e-1.e0.crl.com (192.41.177.104)  115.320 ms  117.094 ms  112.848 ms
 9  gateway-sfo1.atm.us.crl.net (165.113.56.30)  818.783 ms * *
10  * E0-CRL-SFO-02-E0X0.US.CRL.NET (165.113.55.2)  693.770 ms *
11  T1-CDROM-00-EX.US.CRL.NET (165.113.118.2)  781.045 ms * *
12  freefall.FreeBSD.ORG (204.216.27.18)  812.247 ms  767.955 ms  736.962 ms

Weird that it goes via mae-east.  Interesting that it takes MCI ~80ms to get
cross-country, and it takes CRL ~700ms (and lots of lost packets).

--- freefall.freebsd.org ping statistics ---
42 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 66% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 630.338/709.732/767.077 ms

and

 3  paloalto-cr7.bbnplanet.net (131.119.26.41)  29.500 ms  28.991 ms  27.637 ms
 4  paloalto-mci.bbnplanet.net (131.119.0.202)  30.061 ms  30.525 ms  29.762 ms
 5  bordercore4-hssi0-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.19.249)  33.196 ms  30.608 ms  30.256 ms
 6  mae-west-nap.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.14)  74.390 ms  69.798 ms  64.949 ms
 7  mae-west-nap.SanFrancisco.mci.net (204.70.1.14)  64.856 ms  65.071 ms  68.148 ms
 8  * T3-CRL-SFO-01-H1/0.US.CRL.NET (198.32.136.10)  71.430 ms *
 9  T3-CRL-SFO-01-H3/0.US.CRL.NET (149.20.64.19)  109.910 ms  115.390 ms  113.418 ms
10  wcarchive.cdrom.com (165.113.58.253)  116.339 ms  153.449 ms  165.374 ms

A small but noticable jump in RTT's between the two CRL hops, and of course
more lost packets.

--- wcarchive.cdrom.com ping statistics ---
49 packets transmitted, 38 packets received, 22% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 78.840/185.960/267.531 ms

Pretty high RTT variance there.

Now, despite the network problems, I note that wcarchive is hitting its
limit of 1200, so there must be *some* people getting through... (Or, maybe
people keep hitting it in parallel because the performance is so bad...)

  Bill



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