From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Dec 15 23:07:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21B6A4905B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40FF91E3A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n186so117279012wmn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6N4aPr6siYBb8AihngO/bH79QqDp8NVSnHvM2951uY8=; b=ZBkTNzhuQBYI7Fh76ylNolbjXDd+U0LUzGBpJXFqJk+nwhmqi7nHSWXE+OFWqR1ezb 9RDHzN2Yxq1NRB7tSP52xFul/FUXVxuMDZQ2WAtk6kRB5/NG13e1ETxFg7bIC2E4Gaog OVrrfIasa3HvgufInD4MVxPrSD6fJEYqWmqPTT7euKXsMjjBw0cMFc8XyLJrtYo6FpmP d36lIbaOp/RuXYCFU2Rp9j99QXWPUUXIjAwiQo4235hnkDn2x6eCMC3NYDmpz7IoTCpY ftz5vJMBvWckSIvU1CKkOwrTE/JZvpsqm6+kh6K7Ix+/rvoGo/qFrLGmbHMoZv9gRkdI WV0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.28.158.15 with SMTP id h15mr7144128wme.67.1450220833799; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.192.33 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:07:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:07:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Looking for fully working Intel-based laptop From: Adam Vande More To: Anton Sayetsky Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:07:15 -0000 On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Anton Sayetsky wrote: > > Dell Precision M6600 > Thanks, I will take a look at this model. > > > acpi complains about SD controller coming out of resume, and doesn't > work after resume(it does before). Since I don't use it, it's not an issue > for me. > I don't care about SD too, so this is not a problem. > > > I'm also not sure about "totally disable Intel graphics". Obviously > you can just not load the driver, but that will not eliminate power > consumption. I have the nvidia card for this laptop as well, but it isn't > physically installed so I cannot confirm it would work, although I expect > that it would. > I'll try to explain. Correct me if I wrong. > It's about so called nVidia Optimus. AFAIK, this works by doing rendering > on Intel or nVidia card, but the display output on Intel unconditionally. > I think it switches the output between them internally when stuff like 3D is active. > Latest supported Intel graphics on FreeBSD is that comes with Ivy Bridge. > So if I will buy Haswell-based laptop, I won't get fully functional video > subsystem even if nVidia card is present. I'm also not sure if disabling > screen output through Intel is physically possible. > This laptop is a Sandy Bridge and the low end Intel-only video performance is excellent for all tasks I perform, the most demanding of such would be playback of full HD video eg streaming 1920x1080 TrueColor. I no lag, no stuttering, no distortion. I suppose it's 3D isn't so good, but I don't use it. I believe it probable Haswell support will be in 11.0, but not guaranteed. For my needs, Haswell/Broadwell doesn't provide much value over Ivy Bridge and Sandy/Ivy Bridge models are still in a sweet spot for used pricing. All in all it's a nice laptop which has allowed me to get rid of several other systems. However it is big and heavy. It does not fit in standard laptop carriers eg a laptop backpack, and it has a hypersensitive touchpad. But there aren't many laptops capable of of 32GB RAM along with all its other power. -- Adam