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Date:      Thu, 11 Apr 2019 13:57:58 -0500
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Concern: ZFS Mirror issues (12.STABLE and firmware 19 .v. 20)
Message-ID:  <2c23c0de-1802-37be-323e-d390037c6a84@denninger.net>
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On 4/11/2019 13:52, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:41 AM Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> wr=
ote:
>
>
>> In this specific case the adapter in question is...
>>
>> mps0: <Avago Technologies (LSI) SAS2116> port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem
>> 0xfbb3c000-0xfbb3ffff,0xfbb40000-0xfbb7ffff irq 30 at device 0.0 on pc=
i3
>> mps0: Firmware: 20.00.07.00, Driver: 21.02.00.00-fbsd
>> mps0: IOCCapabilities:
>> 1285c<ScsiTaskFull,DiagTrace,SnapBuf,EEDP,TransRetry,EventReplay,HostD=
isc>
>>
>> Which is indeed a "dumb" HBA (in IT mode), and Zeephod says he connect=
s
>> his drives via dumb on-MoBo direct SATA connections.
>>
> Maybe I'm in good company.  My current setup has 8 of the disks connect=
ed
> to:
>
> mps0: <Avago Technologies (LSI) SAS2308> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem
> 0xfe240000-0xfe24ffff,0xfe200000-0xfe23ffff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci=
6
> mps0: Firmware: 19.00.00.00, Driver: 21.02.00.00-fbsd
> mps0: IOCCapabilities:
> 5a85c<ScsiTaskFull,DiagTrace,SnapBuf,EEDP,TransRetry,EventReplay,MSIXIn=
dex,HostDisc>
>
> ... just with a cable that breaks out each of the 2 connectors into 4
> SATA-style connectors, and the other 8 disks (plus boot disks and SSD
> cache/log) connected to ports on...
>
> - ahci0: <ASMedia ASM1062 AHCI SATA controller> port
> 0xd050-0xd057,0xd040-0xd043,0xd030-0xd037,0xd020-0xd023,0xd000-0xd01f m=
em
> 0xfe900000-0xfe9001ff irq 44 at device 0.0 on pci2
> - ahci2: <Marvell 88SE9230 AHCI SATA controller> port
> 0xa050-0xa057,0xa040-0xa043,0xa030-0xa037,0xa020-0xa023,0xa000-0xa01f m=
em
> 0xfe610000-0xfe6107ff irq 40 at device 0.0 on pci7
> - ahci3: <AMD SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 AHCI SATA controller> port
> 0xf040-0xf047,0xf030-0xf033,0xf020-0xf027,0xf010-0xf013,0xf000-0xf00f m=
em
> 0xfea07000-0xfea073ff irq 19 at device 17.0 on pci0
>
> ... each drive connected to a single port.
>
> I can actually reproduce this at will.  Because I have 16 drives, when =
one
> fails, I need to find it.  I pull the sata cable for a drive, determine=
 if
> it's the drive in question, if not, reconnect, "ONLINE" it and wait for=

> resilver to stop... usually only a minute or two.
>
> ... if I do this 4 to 6 odd times to find a drive (I can tell, in gener=
al,
> that a drive is part of the SAS controller or the SATA controllers... s=
o
> I'm only looking among 8, ever) ... then I "REPLACE" the problem drive.=

> More often than not, the a scrub will find a few problems.  In fact, it=

> appears that the most recent scrub is an example:
>
> [1:7:306]dgilbert@vr:~> zpool status
>   pool: vr1
>  state: ONLINE
>   scan: scrub repaired 32K in 47h16m with 0 errors on Mon Apr  1 23:12:=
03
> 2019
> config:
>
>         NAME            STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
>         vr1             ONLINE       0     0     0
>           raidz2-0      ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d0   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d1   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d2   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d3   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d4   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d5   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d6   ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-d7   ONLINE       0     0     0
>           raidz2-2      ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e0c  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e1b  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e2b  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e3b  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e4b  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e5a  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e6a  ONLINE       0     0     0
>             gpt/v1-e7c  ONLINE       0     0     0
>         logs
>           gpt/vr1log    ONLINE       0     0     0
>         cache
>           gpt/vr1cache  ONLINE       0     0     0
>
> errors: No known data errors
>
> ... it doesn't say it now, but there were 5 CKSUM errors on one of the
> drives that I had trial-removed (and not on the one replaced).
> _______________________________________________

That is EXACTLY what I'm seeing; the "OFFLINE'd" drive is the one that,
after a scrub, comes up with the checksum errors.=C2=A0 It does *not* fla=
g
any errors during the resilver and the drives *not* taken offline do not
(ever) show checksum errors either.

Interestingly enough you have 19.00.00.00 firmware on your card as well
-- which is what was on mine.

I have flashed my card forward to 20.00.07.00 -- we'll see if it still
does it when I do the next swap of the backup set.

--=20
Karl Denninger
karl@denninger.net <mailto:karl@denninger.net>
/The Market Ticker/
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