From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 0:12:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2331637B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:12:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from achornback@worldnet.att.net) Received: from tomcat ([12.93.208.2]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010812071231.KZUY5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@tomcat> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:12:31 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: Subject: RE: Netcape Browser [RANT] Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: <007201c122fd$062d8000$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20010812060216.37051.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > dev-null@no-id.com > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 2:02 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Netcape Browser [RANT] > > > >Does "Netscape" run poperly on FreeBSD v4.3? > > No, it doesn't. It's a pile of junk. Funny... it works fine on my FreeBSD systems. > There > are people with their stupid fixes like > "disable java and javascript," but you > might as well go all the way and disable > images or just rm the damn thing. Some of us go ahead and disable Java and Javascript because it could pose a security problem. If you have questions in that regard, I'd advise you to take it up with www.cert.org unless, of course, you've come up with a fix for those problems which I think a lot of us would be more than happy if you would share said fixes. > Netscape gets worse with each generation: > more memory scrooging and the freezes > occur more frequently. Despite the > apparent absurdity of the idea, > *something* gives Netscape the power to > lock up window managers, crash X, and > even reboot the entire system on > occasion. There's stability for you. If it doesn't work on your system, maybe you should examine what you are running it on, both hardware and software wise. No piece of software is perfect. However, if you know of something that refutes that claim, I would be more than happy to take a look at it, cause it would win me roughly $1000 from a former professor of mine. > >All I can seem to find is > >Netscape v7.5 for FreeBSD v2.2. Or, does IE have a version >that runs on > >FBSD? > > Microsoft have only ported IE to HPUX and Solaris, > last time I checked. I'd love to find a Solaris admin with the cajones to run IE on his system. I find that whole idea extremely comical. > Most *nix purists are quick to jump down Microsoft's > throat, but AT LEAST THEIR BROWSER WORKS (and > the security holes of Windows acclaim shouldn't > really be much of a problem on their port). Well, my friend (and I use the term loosely), this is the Unix world. You know how things have always been done over here? It's like this... if you don't like the software that's out there and/or you can't find the right application to fit your needs, you write it yourself, or find someone willing to write it for you. > >If all else fails, can someone point me in the direction of >a > really good > >browser that will run on FBSD v4.3? > > Unfortunately, there are no good browsers that > will run under FreeBSD. Netscape works fine for me on my systems... as does Lynx. Both are widely known and widely used browsers. Maybe there isn't a browser that fits your definition of good, but then again, I'm not sure that there ever will be. > The advice given to me > in my thread "Web Browsers (is there hope?)" was > to use Windows to surf the Net. If you like IE that well, why not use Windows? Even better, why not download Solaris 8 from Sun and run IE on it? It seems to be your browser of choice, and no one is stopping you from doing either of the above. > Some idiot, > completely missing the point, suggested to > use an IRC client instead of a browser (go > figure). That's because the original post from the original author mentioned how he was having problems with Yahoo! Chat locking up on him. For the uninitiated (which you seem to be one of, my friend, again used loosely), it is a Java based multi-user chat program. And I agree with the person that said that if you want to chat to use IRC. Why? How many RFCs are involved in the design/use of IRC? Compared to how many involved with the use/design of a Java based chatting solution? > Netscape blows. Again, it works properly for me on my systems. > Opera runs longer but still > crashes on the average of 15-20 minutes > for me. There are other browsers that are > too closely tied to a particular window > manager or environment. And there are the > browsers like Mozilla that require a > fucking arm and leg just to get a working > browser installed and the other arm and > leg just to get Java support in some wonky > fashion, only to crash in a clowd of smoke > minutes after execution. As I mentioned before... you don't seem to like any of the available web client software packages out there, so why not write your own? If you're that bound and determined to raise a fuss over this and not contribute anything useful to correcting these problems, why not do it yourself? > I'm still looking for a decent browser > to run. http://browserwatch.internet.com/ > lists some candidates, but you'll notice > they lack support for features which > are mandatory in a browser these days > (CSS, Java, etc.), they're CLI browsers, > or they're coded in some stuffed-shirt > tosser language like Java (SUPPORT > Java, but don't WRITE the damn web > browser in Java). Perhaps you're missing the utlilitarian use of Java. It was originally designed to be a more portable language, able to go from one platform to another with a simple recompile or less in order to get it to work on the new platform. But, according to your stance, Java shouldn't be used in that way, but should only be used to write little trinket apps for web usage only. > Inhale. Prozac? Valium? > >Ron > > -- > This message has been sent via an anonymous mail relay at www.no-id.com. Anonymous mail, eh? That's gotta take balls... --- Andy "And yes, Netscape runs fine on my FreeBSD machines..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 0:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.aasp.net (76-3.aasp.net [140.186.76.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3D437B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jules@aasp.net) Received: from aasp.net (76-147.aasp.net [140.186.76.147]) by mail1.aasp.net (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA23209 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B762E90.E9DCF329@aasp.net> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:21:53 -0400 From: Jules Gilbert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (OS/2; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: simple, stupid question... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5E8084FD84849473F97B6709" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5E8084FD84849473F97B6709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not a BSD whiz. But I have a bunch of BSD systems which run all the time, and occasionally one of them comes up with a bright idea 'he' wants to write to a common file on one of the machines. That way I can see it in the morning. Now, the thing is, it could happen that two machines attempt to do an 'fopen' concurrently, with the second argument being "ab", ie., append binary. All machines talk to a common directory (which exists on a single machine) over an NFS based architecture. These machines spend most of their time thinking. I was considering allowing each machine a small slot of time, so that a deadlock on the common resource would be impossible. (First machine gets the first 10 seconds of a minute. Second machine gets the second 10 seconds of a minute, etc...) These machines spend most of their life thinking deep thoughts and only occasionally want to write to this single file on one directory on one of the machines, so the chance for collisions is small anyway... Another way is to cause one machine to successfully open the file, write out the brilliance, and the other machine to be told to try back in 30 seconds or a minute. Is a file lock (flock.tar), the right choice here? Years ago, I used a machine which had two macros, "ENQUE" and "DEQUE", which by naming the resource, assured me of serial access. (The thing is, it didn't always work. This was the Xerox Sigma 9; over 10,000 years ago...) Also, any advantage to using text files here instead of binary files, with respect to this problem? Please copy your answer to: jules@aasp.net and also me as: jg@medg.lcs.mit.edu By the way, THANK YOU BSD COMMUNITY -- this is a wonderful system, and while I am still learning how to best make use of it, I, along with thousands of others living on this planet, thank you for your efforts. This ingredient, among others, enables me to make a living without having to use/touch/feel/see/think about MS and that whole ugly mess... --------------5E8084FD84849473F97B6709 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jules.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jules Gilbert Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jules.vcf" begin:vcard n:Gilbert;Jules x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;PO Box 3351;North Attleborough;MA;02761; version:2.1 end:vcard --------------5E8084FD84849473F97B6709-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 0:32:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7E937B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from achornback@worldnet.att.net) Received: from tomcat ([12.93.208.2]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010812073232.LCSX5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@tomcat>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:32:32 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Jules Gilbert" , Cc: Subject: RE: simple, stupid question... Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:24:24 -0400 Message-ID: <007501c122ff$cff79a40$0e00000a@tomcat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3B762E90.E9DCF329@aasp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jules Gilbert > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:22 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: simple, stupid question... > > > I am not a BSD whiz. Makes two of us... *grins* > But I have a bunch of BSD systems which run all the time, and > occasionally one of them comes up with a bright idea 'he' wants to write > to a common file on one of the machines. That way I can see it in the > morning. > > Now, the thing is, it could happen that two machines attempt to do an > 'fopen' concurrently, with the second argument being "ab", ie., append > binary. > > All machines talk to a common directory (which exists on a single > machine) over an NFS based architecture. These machines spend most of > their time thinking. I was considering allowing each machine a small > slot of time, so that a deadlock on the common resource would be > impossible. > > (First machine gets the first 10 seconds of a minute. Second machine > gets the second 10 seconds of a minute, etc...) These machines spend > most of their life thinking deep thoughts and only occasionally want to > write to this single file on one directory on one of the machines, so > the chance for collisions is small anyway... > > Another way is to cause one machine to successfully open the file, write > out the brilliance, and the other machine to be told to try back in 30 > seconds or a minute. Okay, back in the day, we used to call something like this "file semaphoring". Basically, when a machine opens a file, it drops a semaphore (another simple text or binary file) while it has that file open and deletes the semaphore when the file is closed. When another machine goes to write to this file, they check for a semaphore (basically saying that the file is either in use or it isn't) and if there's no semaphore, they send their own and open the file. This could also have the added benefit of telling you when a machine has the file open, and which machine (if you give each machine it's own special identifier semaphore file). I think this is what you're looking to implement here. I'm not too familiar with NFS, but there might be a way to do this from an NFS client as opposed to having to write code to do it. > Is a file lock (flock.tar), the right choice here? Years ago, I used a > machine which had two macros, "ENQUE" and "DEQUE", which by naming the > resource, assured me of serial access. (The thing is, it didn't always > work. This was the Xerox Sigma 9; over 10,000 years ago...) > > Also, any advantage to using text files here instead of binary files, > with respect to this problem? I don't think that this should really matter, since, from what I get out of your e-mail, each machine is going to be only writing to the file to show their results as opposed to having to read it. The only time that the file would need to be read is in order to determine where the next string of data should go, which can be easily accomplished using either binary or text files. > Please copy your answer to: jules@aasp.net and also me as: > jg@medg.lcs.mit.edu > > By the way, THANK YOU BSD COMMUNITY -- this is a wonderful system, and > while I am still learning how to best make use of it, I, along with > thousands of others living on this planet, thank you for your efforts. > This ingredient, among others, enables me to make a living without > having to use/touch/feel/see/think about MS and that whole ugly mess... Eh, some of us used to make a living off of cleaning up after MS and that whole ugly mess... *grins* --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 0:57:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.bonet.ac (WWW.BoNet.AC [194.165.224.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585A137B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:57:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kacem@skebo.ac) Received: from skebo.ac (19122a.skebo.ac [212.217.221.47]) by mailhost.bonet.ac (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03802 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:57:24 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3B7636B3.90CA9BAB@skebo.ac> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:56:35 +0200 From: kacem sandberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: soundcard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have a soundblaster card AWE 64.How do I make it to work with FreeBSD????????????????????????????????????????? This issue will soon blow my brain.I dont think you have a good 'step by step' guide for making a soundcard to work.That is something you can improve on your site. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 1:12: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C0B37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA49A291016E; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:11:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3B763A49.BA100DB7@urx.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:11:53 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lasse Kaislaniemi Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: USB mouse not working under 4.3-REL References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lasse Kaislaniemi wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to get my USB mouse to work in my FreeBSD box. There is a support > for USB mice in the GENERAL kernel, however that didn't work so I compiled > a customized kernel with lines > > pseudo-device ether > device uhci > #device ohci # I've tried with this one enabled too > device usb > device ums > > options UHCI_DEBUG > options USB_DEBUG > options UMS_DEBUG My usb mouse works and what I have for a kernel config is # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet I have moused_enable turned off in /etc/rc.conf and usb_enable="YES". Kent > > in it, and any other USB related stuff commented out. But after compiling > the kernel I still keep on getting this stuff in dmesg: > > ... > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0xe000-0xe00f at device 7.1 on pci0 > ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 > uhci0: port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 12 at device 7.2 on pci0 > uhci_run: setting run=0 > uhci_run: done cmd=0x0 sts=0x20 > uhci_run: setting run=1 > uhci_run: done cmd=0x81 sts=0x0 > usb0: on uhci0 > usb0: USB revision 1.0 > uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhci_waitintr: timeout > uhci_idone: error, addr=2, endpt=0x00, status 0x500000 > uhci_waitintr: timeout > usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 0<1 > uhci_waitintr: timeout > usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 0<1 > ums0: Logitech, Inc. product 0xc030, rev 1.00/1.01, addr 2, iclass 3/1 > uhci_waitintr: timeout > usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 0<74 > device_probe_and_attach: ums0 attach returned 6 > uhci_waitintr: timeout > usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 0<1 > uhci_waitintr: timeout > usbd_transfer_cb: short transfer 0<1 > chip1: at device 7.3 on pci0 > ... > > Now, '# moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto' says 'Device not confgured'. > MAKEDEVing doesn't help. > > If I deattach the mouse from the USB port before booting, I won't get > those error messages at boot time, but still I get the errors when > attaching the mouse to the USB port after boot process. > > Can anyone help or should I just go and buy a good old serial mouse?-) > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > Lasse Kaislaniemi / lasse@mutteri.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 1:29:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C34837B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9676ACBC; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:00:14 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:00:14 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Kevin Hui Cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiencing very slow raw write speeds on /dev/ad1 Message-ID: <20010812180014.D48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010810025156.N85642@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from khui@cs.toronto.edu on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:17:55AM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 10 August 2001 at 11:17:55 -0400, Kevin Hui wrote: >>> Adding write caching helped a lot. Now the write speed jumps to ~15.8MB/s >>> instead of the previous 3.5MB/s. >>> Are there any other such settings I should pay attention to? I asked >>> because I believe that the performance is still not as good as can be. I >>> have the rawio program running under Linux with the identical hardware >>> (accessing the /dev/raw/raw0, which maps to /dev/hdb) and I got ~38.4MB/s >>> raw write speed (BTW I get ~38.4MB/s from both Linux and FreeBSD when I do >>> the single-process raw sequential read test). >> >> I'm a bit confused, where do the numbers differ and what are the numbers? > > The numbers from simple runs (standard chunk size, single I/O thread, > sequential read and then sequential write) are provided below. The > FreeBSD write number is less than half of what Linux is getting. > > -Kevin. > > Linux running rawio: > -------------------- > Linux# time ./rawio -p 1 -s 8000000000 -r -w /dev/raw/raw1 > Random read Sequential read Random write Sequential write > ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec > aw1 38406.8 2344 38656.5 2359 > > real 0m15.946s > user 0m0.010s > sys 0m1.790s > > > FreeBSD running rawio: > ---------------------- > FreeBSD# time ./rawio -p 1 -s 8000000000 -r -w /dev/ad1 > Random read Sequential read Random write Sequential write > ID K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec K/sec /sec > ad1 38410.4 2344 15732.6 960 > 26.06 real 0.00 user 1.18 sys Linux and rawio are not really compatible. In Linux you have no choice, you must go via buffer cache; this can give you results which look much better. Also, sequential I/O is not very informative, especially if you only have one process. It would be much more interesting to look at random I/O and not change the default rawio parameters (in particular, let 8 concurrent processes run). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 1:37: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72F337B406; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id D201A81D05; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:37:05 -0500 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Greg Lehey Cc: Kevin Hui , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiencing very slow raw write speeds on /dev/ad1 Message-ID: <20010812033705.V85642@elvis.mu.org> References: <20010810025156.N85642@elvis.mu.org> <20010812180014.D48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010812180014.D48115@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 06:00:14PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Lehey [010812 03:29] wrote: > > Linux and rawio are not really compatible. In Linux you have no > choice, you must go via buffer cache; this can give you results which > look much better. Also, sequential I/O is not very informative, > especially if you only have one process. It would be much more > interesting to look at random I/O and not change the default rawio > parameters (in particular, let 8 concurrent processes run). I was going to say that (linux cheats because it doesn't really have raw io), but I wasn't sure I was up to date enough. Thanks for taking the time to explain it. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] Ok, who wrote this damn function called '??'? And why do my programs keep crashing in it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 2: 3: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914D637B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:02:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AE46ACBF; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:33:25 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:33:24 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Kevin Hui , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiencing very slow raw write speeds on /dev/ad1 Message-ID: <20010812183324.F48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010810025156.N85642@elvis.mu.org> <20010812180014.D48115@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010812033705.V85642@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010812033705.V85642@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 03:37:05AM -0500 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 12 August 2001 at 3:37:05 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Lehey [010812 03:29] wrote: >> >> Linux and rawio are not really compatible. In Linux you have no >> choice, you must go via buffer cache; this can give you results which >> look much better. Also, sequential I/O is not very informative, >> especially if you only have one process. It would be much more >> interesting to look at random I/O and not change the default rawio >> parameters (in particular, let 8 concurrent processes run). > > I was going to say that (linux cheats because it doesn't really have > raw io), but I wasn't sure I was up to date enough. Well, to be *really* up to date, sct has patches for 2.4, confusingly called rawio, which do supply character disk devices to Linux. I don't know how to get them, though. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 2:46:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.francenet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0FB37B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:46:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (prov42.dialup.fluxus.net [193.149.102.42]) by logatome.francenet.fr (8.10.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f7C9k3664443; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 227A4E6BCA; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:40:23 +0200 (CEST) To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Nick Rogness" , Subject: Re: DSL connectivity & ISDN backup References: <004701c12162$86b05820$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <004701c12162$86b05820$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> ("Ted Mittelstaedt"'s message of "Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:05:59 -0700") X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:40:22 +0200 Message-ID: <86k80939bt.fsf@notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Ted" == Ted Mittelstaedt writes: [ Snip bad backup experiences ] Ted> Further investigation found that the phone company had hosed up Ted> the PVC internally somewhere in their cloud - only problem is that Ted> at both ends (ours and theirs) the Telco was still merrily Ted> advertising the DLCI. Joys of work with telcos, I imagine ;). [Snip new keyword in ppp(8) configuration file ] Ted> Eric - sign me up as one of your beta testers. :-) Even if I see the logic to use, it's far over the top for me to code. Ted> Only problem I can see is how does PPP know when the main circuit Ted> is back online? Does it keep redialing periodically or what? ppp(8) on a DSL line is usually invoked with -ddial, that makes it keep dialing when the line goes down. I've been contacted offlist about the linkup & linkdown scripts (I use them on my current setup to flush mail queue & get news), the trick would be to launch a new ppp(8) instance in auto mode when the DSL link goes down and to kill this instance when the dsl line goes up via ppp.linkdown & ppp.linkup. I'll try this setup ASA the DSL line is installed at the office. Thanks to all who responded Regards Eric Masson -- A part ça, moi qui suis habitués aux PC Windows, PC Linux, PC SCO, Atari, IBM RS/6000, SUN Sparc, ... j'ai été un peu dérouté au début. Enfin, je m'amuse beaucoups avec... plus que mon père. -+- KEL in Guide du Macounet Pervers : Et la lumière fut -+- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 2:51: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8AC037B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 70043 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 09:51:00 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.20868.767874.803919@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:51:00 -0500 To: =?iso-8859-1?q?m=20p?= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How I update installed ports In-Reply-To: <69685395@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG m p types: > > Which is the correct way to update an installed port? > > update the src-tree, make reinstall I don't think this will do even vaguely the right things. > > update the src-tree, pkg_delete, make install Make it "make clean install", and this works quite well. It's pretty much what pkg_version -c does, only pkg_version -c does it in a way that won't remove the old version unless the new one builds properly. > And can some who have a good knowlegde about the porting/upgrading cyclus > please update the following entry in the FAQ: > http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/applications.html#PORTS-UPDATE Other than mentioning that portupgrade exists, what needs to be done to it? It seems that the information in it is basically correct. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 2:52: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mutteri.org (cs168232.pp.htv.fi [213.243.168.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE60837B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 02:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lasse@mutteri.org) Received: from ns1 (ns1 [213.243.168.232]) by mail.mutteri.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BE348D1F for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:52:06 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:52:05 +0300 (EEST) From: Lasse Kaislaniemi To: Subject: Re: USB mouse not working under 4.3-REL In-Reply-To: <3B763A49.BA100DB7@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > My usb mouse works and what I have for a kernel config is > > ... > > I have moused_enable turned off in /etc/rc.conf > and usb_enable="YES". Hmm. Makes no difference. Still getting the same errors. But thanks, anyway. -- Lasse Kaislaniemi / lasse@mutteri.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3: 2:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1514137B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:02:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 86629 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 10:02:45 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.21573.112776.586357@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:02:45 -0500 To: "George Genovezos" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FWtk build fails In-Reply-To: <124491797@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG George Genovezos types: > Here is another b**l buster for me. I'm trying to compile fwtk on this box & > it's complainig that it can't find lipc... > > gcc -g -o x-gw x-gw.o ulib.a ../libfwall.a -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXaw -lXmu -lXt > -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lipc -lcrypt > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lipc > *** Error code 1 > > Any hints? I can't find anyting on the web for IPC. It isn't needed on FreeBSD. Just delete it from the XLIBS variable in the Makefile. Better yet, install /usr/ports/security/fwtk, which will fix that and all other suchs nits for you. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3: 9:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B25837B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.226]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812100926.BRET3707.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:09:26 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D2E750D0F; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:09:20 -0400 From: parv To: David Banning Cc: f-q Subject: Re: help w/ timidity... Message-ID: <20010812060920.A83106@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: David Banning , f-q References: <20010810205154.A4743@moo.holy.cow> <20010811010851.A10700@sympatico.ca> <20010811034221.A73940@moo.holy.cow> <20010811155144.A61371@sympatico.ca> <20010811155732.A61462@sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010811155732.A61462@sympatico.ca>; from david@skytrackercanada.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 03:57:32PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 11 15:57 -0400, sent by David Banning > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 03:51:44PM -0400, David Banning wrote: > > > so, there is no *.cfg* file installed; only the binary, 2 man pages - > > > timidity(1) & timidity.cfg(5), and 2 empty directories - > > > /usr/local/(lib|share)/timidity. > > > > Their web site states; > > > > By default, timidity.cfg is located in > > /usr/local/lib/timidity/timidity.cfg > > > > and they give a reference on cfg files at; > > > > http://www.goice.co.jp/timidity/dist/cfg/ (Some samples of *.cfg) > > Sorry that last link was bad - I found it at; > > http://raiden.goice.co.jp/member/mo/timidity/dist/cfg i got a gigantic file which included various instruments' definitions/patches & configuration files from here... http://www.stardate.bc.ca/eawpatches/html/default.htm http://www.stardate.bc.ca/eawpatches/html/get_patches.htm ...timidity++ seems to be happy now... thanks anyway david. -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:14:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE9A37B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.226]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812101428.LPRF5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:14:28 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2496750D0F; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:14:22 -0400 From: parv To: David Banning Cc: f-q Subject: fwd: Re: help w/ timidity... Message-ID: <20010812061422.A83977@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: David Banning , f-q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010812060920.A83106@moo.holy.cow> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG carp, forget to edit the address ... 3d time! i apologoze for the no/incorrect email address given in my previous post. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:17:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46C9E37B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 95714 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 10:17:15 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.22443.450757.18367@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:17:15 -0500 To: dev-null@no-id.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Web Browsers (is there hope?) In-Reply-To: <101196476@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dev-null@no-id.com types: > Hello > Is it just me or do the web browsers under FreeBSD > (and Unix in general) just SUCK? No, it's not just you. Of course, I think the popular web browser all pretty much suck, no matter what platform you're on. You get to choose between things that don't follow the standards, like MSIE or NS4, or things that are pre-release and crash, like Mozilla. > Why can't I surf the Net without a damn browser > crash every 5-20 minutes? The only browser that crashes on me with any regularlity is Skipstone - and that uses the pre-release Mozilla rendering engine, so this is halfway expected. On the other hand, it's generally a lot more usable than any other GUI browser I've found, so I put up with that. > This is where I'm at now. Confused. Looking > for an answer. I need a browser that is > actually STABLE and supports the following > features minimally: > > o HTML (duh) > o Images (to preempt the lynx smartass) > o JavaScript > o Java (ESSENTIAL) > o CSS > o SSL/TLS Leave JavaScript off unless you absolutely have to have it. It's a a major source of bugs, crashes annoyances and security holes. Personally, I leave linux-netscape47-navigator installed to run if I have to have Javascript, then rm -rf ~/.netscape every time I run the damn thing. Except for java, try w3m-image. > I'd also like it to have plugin extensibility > for stuff like flash, but that's not essential. > > I can use Internet Explorer or the win32 version > of Netscape for hours on end without so much a > blink, but that is an unacceptable solution. Gee, I can't use *Windows* for hours on end without it crashing. I guess crashing the entire system doesn't count, eh? Maybe if I did nothing but the web browser, it would work better - but if that's all I wanted, a WebTV is a lot cheaper. I'm a bit surprised you don't have more troubles with Netscape. Site developers tend to fix the crashes that JavaScript causes for MSIE users, but ignore NetScape users. Possibly you're using 6, as 4 doesn't meet your requirements list. Oh yeah, while speaking of the idiots that design most web pages, you'll find that a lot of things simply don't work properly because you aren't using MSIE on Windows. That's what they run, that's what they test on, that's what most of their customers on, and they don't care about loosing a few million potential customers. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:21:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 376F737B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:21:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 98211 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 10:21:29 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.22697.639640.943184@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:21:29 -0500 To: Veaceslav Revutchi Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd, audio, cd-rw question In-Reply-To: <11826862@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Veaceslav Revutchi types: > hi > > can someone explain me please why a stereo system would refuse > to playback a copy of an audio cd burned with burncd onto a cd-rw? > I can play it with cdcontrol in FreeBSD though. > > A copy made on a cd-r is played back fine on a stereo system but a cd-rw > is just not detected by the system. This doesn't make sense to me... CDROM, CD-R and CD-RW players have slightly different requirements for the laser. Your player needs to meet the CD-RW requirements to play CD-RWs. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:30:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4118337B40C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 3724 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 10:30:48 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.23256.445602.238142@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:30:48 -0500 To: Joey Garcia Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filesystem filling up, how do I locate the large files? In-Reply-To: <106282575@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joey Garcia types: > Okay, I hope the subject made sense. Basically, my /usr is filing up and > I wanted to located the large files or larger directories that are filling > up the partition. I read somehwere in some FAQ or something that the > command is something like this: du (some options) | sort (some more > options) but I'm not sure exactly about what options to use. I have a > feeling that I read this somwhere on one of the documentation found at > freebsd.org but I just can't seem to find it again. Any pointers to that > doucmentation would be awesome. I know I read it somewhere... How about the du and sort man pages? The options are all documented there, which should be enough to figure out what you want. Hint: you want the size of all files on /usr and not other file systems mounted on /usr, sorted numerically, and probably largest values first. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:37:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7F6737B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 4006 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 10:37:08 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.23636.187568.435868@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:37:08 -0500 To: "Marius Kirschner" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail server question In-Reply-To: <120931976@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marius Kirschner types: > I have a little dilemma and I can't seem to figure out how to fix this. > Okay, here's the scenerio. > > I have 2 FreeBSD boxes, one that is acting as the DNS and mail server and > the other as my web server. If somebody sents an e-mail from the outside to > a virtual domain that is being hosted on the web server the mail is > delivered correctly. However, if the web server tries to send an e-mail > (via a web form mail or so) to a virtual domain it tried to deliver it > locally. > > I think I need to set some MX records on the localhost so it knows that it's > not in charge of the mail for those domains, but where? Any pointers are > greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sounds more like the mailer on the web server is misconfigured, so that it thinks the domain name for the mail server is a local domain name. Hard to say what to look at without knowing which MTA you're using. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 3:37:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rush.telenordia.se (mail.telenordia.se [194.213.64.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4D6F37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 03:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@minmail.net) Received: (qmail 18861 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 12:37:49 +0200 Received: from bb-62-5-36-29.bb.tninet.se (HELO pcmarpxy.tninet.se) (62.5.36.29) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 12:37:49 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mark Rowlands To: Mike Meyer , dev-null@no-id.com Subject: Re: Web Browsers (is there hope?) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:37:48 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15222.22443.450757.18367@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <15222.22443.450757.18367@guru.mired.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081212374801.58000@pcmarpxy.tninet.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG snip...... konqueror runs nicely (well better than netscape anyway) for me and manages a reasonable level of java functionality.....if such a thing exists To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 4:45:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from gamma.root-servers.ch (gamma.root-servers.ch [195.49.62.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0E9F37B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 20363 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 11:45:37 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-224.hispeed.ch (HELO athlon550) (217.162.128.224) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 11:45:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:48:15 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53bis) Educational Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <94356165699.20010812134815@buz.ch> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: write() failing.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello, I've there got a problem with write() which is failing for a reason I can't figure out: #include #include #include #include //C++ STL #include #include class class_logfiles { private: map files; public: int write_to_log(const string &logfile_path, const string &message); //class_logfiles(void): default constructor }; int class_logfiles::write_to_log(const string &logfile_path, const string &message) { map::iterator miter; miter = this->files.find(logfile_path); if(miter == this->files.end()) // there isn't any open logfile with logfile_path { int current_des; current_des=open((const char *) logfile_path.c_str(), O_APPEND | O_CREAT | O_EXLOCK | O_NOFOLLOW); cout << "current_des " << current_des << " errno " << errno << " path " << logfile_path.c_str()<< endl; this->files[logfile_path]=current_des; cout << "write exit status: " << write(current_des, message.data(), message.size()) << flush; cout << " errno: " << errno << " des " << current_des <; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luka.kanduc@email.si) Received: from email.si ([213.250.6.153]) by mail.siol.net (InterMail vK.4.02.00.10 201-232-116-110 license 3b7ff800a4377eede9efc7be81e8a7c4) with ESMTP id <20010812121209.VIHD1017.mail@email.si> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:12:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3B7672F8.F1868F94@email.si> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:13:44 +0200 From: Charlie Root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Code question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I coded stat.c for FreeBSD. 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invoked by uid 97); 12 Aug 2001 12:28:38 -0000 Date: 12 Aug 2001 12:28:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20010812122838.41080.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dev-null@no-id.com Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: simple, stupid question... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /> -----Original Message----- /> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG /> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of /Jules Gilbert /> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:22 AM /> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG /> Subject: simple, stupid question... /> /> /> I am not a BSD whiz. > Makes two of us... *grins* That's strange. I thought you were one of the "initiated." At least that's what you stated in your reply to my browser post. Hm, let's see... [snip a lot of junk] ADVISORY RECORD LOCKING, DOOFUS. >I don't think that this should really matter, since, from >what I get out of >your e-mail, each machine is going to be only writing to >the file to show >their results as opposed to having to read it. The only >time that the file >would need to be read is in order to determine where the >next string of data >should go, which can be easily accomplished using either >binary or text >files. Hah. Did it occur to you that Unix doesn't differentiate between text and binary files? Everything is binary. Hello? Maybe you should follow your own advice and go back to Windows/MSDOS where the 'b' to fopen() and the 'O_TEXT' to open() actually mean something. Wow. This college course is really paying off. Maybe one day I'll be able to write a web browser that actually works on Unix, unlike the other morons who can't write a browser that doesn't segfault within 20 minutes tops or pull down X and every window manager on the planet with it. Fucking geezers. /> Please copy your answer to: jules@aasp.net and also me /as: /> jg@medg.lcs.mit.edu /> /> By the way, THANK YOU BSD COMMUNITY -- this is a /wonderful system, and /> while I am still learning how to best make use of it, I, /along with /> thousands of others living on this planet, thank you for /your efforts. Yes, now how do you intend to use the www when every browser is a piece of shit? I wouldn't doubt that Netscape would work for "---Andy" while she uses it for five minutes each day rummaging through the text-only stock quotes for some suburbian shithole in Arkansas. Or perhaps she considers restarting a browser every 5 minutes decent performance. -- This message has been sent via an anonymous mail relay at www.no-id.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 5:59:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from propane.zoomph.net (propane.zoomph.net [209.26.220.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A1D837B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 05:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anonymous@propane.zoomph.net) Received: (qmail 41712 invoked by uid 97); 12 Aug 2001 12:59:14 -0000 Date: 12 Aug 2001 12:59:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20010812125914.41711.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dev-null@no-id.com Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Netscape Browser [RANT] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "---Andy" wrote: ===== Some of us go ahead and disable Java and Javascript because it could pose a security problem. If you have questions in that regard, I'd advise you to take it up with www.cert.org unless, of course, you've come up with a fix for those problems which I think a lot of us would be more than happy if you would share said fixes. ===== So? I run my browsers (if you can call them that) in a restricted environment. Go read a few man pages before you begin to preach client-side security to me. If you've _looked_ at the Net lately, a lot of sites _insist_ that you have JavaScript enabled (e.g. www.hotmail.com). Maybe you should disable SSL too because of possible man-in-the-middle attacks. Seen the OpenWall Netscape/Mozilla JPEG processing heap corruption hole? Maybe you should just rm the browser to prevent exposure to future such holes. Disabling important features is NOT an appropriate fix for bugs/holes in browsers -- the browser should provide a reliable implementation or scrap the idea entirely. But I don't care about frigging security issues. None of them matter when the damn browser doesn't even do its most mundane duty properly. ===== That's because the original post from the original author mentioned how he was having problems with Yahoo! Chat locking up on him. For the uninitiated (which you seem to be one of, my friend, again used loosely), it is a Java based multi-user chat program. And I agree with the person that said that if you want to chat to use IRC. Why? How many RFCs are involved in the design/use of IRC? Compared to how many involved with the use/design of a Java based chatting solution? ===== Hello? I was the original author. I know what Yahoo! Chat is. I gave it as an example of an applet that triggers a problem inherent in Netscape itself. How did suggesting to use IRC over Yahoo help the discussion related to web browser problems? Answer: it didn't because it was an intentional smartass comment. Now where the hell does your IRC RFC question come into a discussion about web browsers? I'm not doing a "Yahoo! Chat vs. IRC" thread. What will you suggest next? Comparing apples to oranges? -- This message has been sent via an anonymous mail relay at www.no-id.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:16:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAA3737B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 64269 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 13:16:07 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.33175.427963.229610@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:16:07 -0500 To: "Kevin Oberman" , khui@cs.toronto.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Experiencing very slow raw write speeds on /dev/ad1 In-Reply-To: <71444615@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kevin Oberman types: > 1. For all but he root partition, turn on softupdate. This is done > with tunefs -n enable 'filesystem'. To do this, re-boot to single user > mode and use the tunefs command on each file system where you want > it. It is non-volatile, so it only should be done once for each file > system. You probably don't want to do this for root. It's normally not > going to help much and the delay in reclaiming deleted space can cause > problems there. The delay reclaiming deleted space is only a problem if your root is very tight on space. Personally, I make root file systems large enough to avoid the problem - a hundred meg is more than enough, even if you keep /var on it - and turn on softupdates. > 2. Mount the file systems as async. This is what Linux does. If there > is a failure, you might lose an entire file system or an entire disk > because of meta data inconsistency. Either a power failure or a crash > can be devastating, although it usually won't be. Don't bother turning on async for any file system that has softupdates enabled. Softupdates wouldn't add anything to async, and the write ordering done by soft udpates is incredibly dangerous on async disks. Which is the why async flag to mount is ignored if the file system has soft updates enabled. > I do recommend soft updates. They are safe and can substantially > improve performance. I'm still not sure why soft updates are not > default, but they may become default in the future, especially if > background fsck works. (Background fsck can only work with soft update > since a soft update system can safely run without an fsck.) Originally, licensing prevented soft updates from being the default. I think you can now enable softupdates from sysinstall when you build the file systems. Setting things up to provide defaults for each file system would be the next step. The other thing you can do to improve file system performance turn on noatime, which will save a write whenever a file is read. Checking out the tuning man page - possibly on the web server, as it's a post 4.3 thing - is also recommended. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:26:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EFAB37B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 64724 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 13:26:52 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.33820.72582.176034@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:26:52 -0500 To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 In-Reply-To: <55215299@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Merryweather Cooper types: > I have a DFI AK74-EC motherboard (VIA 686 chipset) and a Lexmark Z51 > printer. I would like to be able to print to the Z51 using /dev/ulpt0. > When connected, my dmesg output indicates that the Z51 is detected and > connected to /dev/ulpt0. However, attempts to print to this port (using > apsfilter, cp some_text_file /dev/ulpt0, etc.) have resulted in no activity > and no apparent transfer of data to the printer. > > So the question comes, what must I say over my computer to make things > print? :) LexMark tends to make cheap winprinters. That lexmark claims the z51 works on "DOS through Windows" instead of "DOS" makes me think you have one. If so, the only hope for making it work is to find a ghostscript driver for your printer. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:28:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4184637B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 64867 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 13:28:16 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.33904.846891.268946@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:28:16 -0500 To: uwi mAn Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounting permissions In-Reply-To: <27905573@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG uwi mAn types: > I want my regular users have 'rw' permission on mounted drives..... > Well what should I do? Reformulate your question so it makes sense in a Unix environment. Drives don't have permissions. Files and directories do. Some files allow access to raw drives, but giving users the ability to write those is generally a *bad* idea. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:35:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7027637B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 65154 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 13:35:48 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.34356.23170.718946@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:35:48 -0500 To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Netcape Browser [RANT] In-Reply-To: <74743215@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew C. Hornback types: > Some of us go ahead and disable Java and Javascript because it could pose a > security problem. If you have questions in that regard, I'd advise you to > take it up with www.cert.org unless, of course, you've come up with a fix > for those problems which I think a lot of us would be more than happy if you > would share said fixes. JavaScript is unfixable. Java is generally fixed, but as you said, there's no such thing as perfect software. > > Netscape gets worse with each generation: > > more memory scrooging and the freezes > > occur more frequently. Despite the > > apparent absurdity of the idea, > > *something* gives Netscape the power to > > lock up window managers, crash X, and > > even reboot the entire system on > > occasion. There's stability for you. You know, I here people say the same thing about MSIE on Windows. > I'd love to find a Solaris admin with the cajones to run IE on his system. > I find that whole idea extremely comical. I've done it. The only advantage this has over running it on Windows it that when IE crashes - as it inevitably does - it doesn't bring down the entire box with it. > > The advice given to me > > in my thread "Web Browsers (is there hope?)" was > > to use Windows to surf the Net. > If you like IE that well, why not use Windows? Even better, why not > download Solaris 8 from Sun and run IE on it? It seems to be your browser > of choice, and no one is stopping you from doing either of the above. When I tried it, IE was only available for Solaris on Sparc. If that's changed, I'd be interested in a pointer. If you've got a sparc, it might be worth checking out whether (Net|Open)BSD have a Solaris API that you could try it on. > As I mentioned before... you don't seem to like any of the available web > client software packages out there, so why not write your own? If you're > that bound and determined to raise a fuss over this and not contribute > anything useful to correcting these problems, why not do it yourself? Because he's a hungry troll. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:39:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5152B37B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 65301 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 13:39:06 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.34554.818524.452543@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:39:06 -0500 To: Charlie Root Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Code question In-Reply-To: <28168343@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charlie Root types: > Hello, > I coded stat.c for FreeBSD. Where to send it ? Don't bother, it's already in the ports. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:40:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.sacoriver.net (dilbert.mix-net.net [65.162.192.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82ACF37B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from misterb@cybertours.com) Received: from loqtis (dsl-172.sacoriver.net [65.162.190.173]) by dilbert.sacoriver.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA18861; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002b01c12334$a1c41ba0$0100a8c0@loqtis> From: "Brent Bailey" To: "Dan O'Connor" , References: <009301c122a5$9b788680$0100a8c0@loqtis> <014a01c122cb$68984680$059b140a@dan> Subject: Re: sendmail on FBSD 4.3 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:42:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i sent in plain text ...so im unsure why you say that....ANYWAY ...any ideas on my sendmail problem ??? please help ....thanx B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Brent Bailey" ; Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: Re: sendmail on FBSD 4.3 > >i hate to bother ya but > > > Please do not send HTML email to the list, especially with colors that > can't be read... > > Please resend you message as plain text, so we can read it and help you. > > --Dan > > -- > Dan O'Connor > On Matters of Most Grave Concern > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com > FreeBSD Cheat Sheets > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 6:55:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web9704.mail.yahoo.com (web9704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5983C37B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abbaasi77@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010812135512.77691.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [134.222.198.54] by web9704.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:55:12 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:55:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Abbaasi Hasan Subject: Kernel could not be installed To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I built a new kernel and these 2 commands were successfull #make depend #make but the command #make install returns this error" { chflags noschg /kernel chflags: /kernel:Operation not permitted *** Error code 1 (ignored) mv /kernel /kernel.old mv: rename /kernel /kernel.old: Operation not permitted *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/FIREWALL } i am as root. there is another kernel.old in /. i moved it to other location but it didn't change anything. Any help please __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7: 4:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web20109.mail.yahoo.com (web20109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 482AB37B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010812140441.9723.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [154.20.99.202] by web20109.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:04:41 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: ann kok Subject: RE: sniffer To: Ted Mittelstaedt , Jerry Bell , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <002101c122e5$a1ae62a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all Thanks for your precious information. How does ISP prevent sniffer except upgrading IOS? no anything else! Thank you --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Unfortunately, those later versions tend to require > much more ram and > flash than most Cisco routers shipped with - and in > fact are shipping with > currently. You would be amazed but brand new Cisco > routers that you > buy off the shelf still do not have enough ram and > flash in them to > run the latest IOS. Cisco discovered code bloat and > the results are > not pretty. > > Ted Mittelstaedt > tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD > Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On > Behalf Of Jerry Bell > >Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:26 PM > >To: ann kok; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Re: sniffer > > > > > >Later versions of the cisco IOS support ssh instead > of straight telnet. > >You'll have to root around on Cisco's site for > specific info on updating > >your IOS (if needed) and configuring ssh. > > > >Jerry > >http://www.syslog.org > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "ann kok" > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:55 PM > >Subject: sniffer > > > > > >> Dear all > >> > >> I learnt that sniffer program can steal password > >> and secure shell can prevent it > >> > >> But how do I do it in Cisco router? > >> and > >> Do I have any methods to prevent the sniffer > program > >> to my router and servers? > >> > >> TIA > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Send instant messages & get email alerts with > Yahoo! Messenger. > >> http://im.yahoo.com/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to > majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body > of the message > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of > the message > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7: 6:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f141.hotmail.com [216.32.181.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1537437B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:06:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from restricted_data@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:06:37 -0700 Received: from 209.178.146.153 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:06:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.178.146.153] From: "**Restricted Data**" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sound trouble Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:06:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2001 14:06:37.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[0022DCB0:01C12338] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was wondering if theirs any peepz that have setup their soundcard cus it's kickin my ass ;/ i have setup speakers in the kernel MAKEDEV them and then did a MAKEDEV to pcaudio i know theirs more to it but from everything i been reading that's all it tells you(i'm reading from the book) anyways i'm running 4.2rel well thanks for anyhelp you may give(1331 soundblaster which is supported) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:15:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3CB37B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id 7028ohU29766; Wed, 2 Jan 1907 04:50:43 -0400 (EWT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:15:17 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: **Restricted Data** Cc: Subject: Re: sound trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you compiled your kernel with sound support? Jason On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, **Restricted Data** wrote: > I was wondering if theirs any peepz that have setup their soundcard cus it's > kickin my ass ;/ i have setup speakers in the kernel MAKEDEV them and then > did a MAKEDEV to pcaudio i know theirs more to it but from everything i been > reading that's all it tells you(i'm reading from the book) anyways i'm > running 4.2rel well thanks for anyhelp you may give(1331 soundblaster which > is supported) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:19: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F09037B40E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id 7028sPU29803 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 1907 04:54:25 -0400 (EWT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:18:59 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Questions list Subject: saving files with netscape (permission denied) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I went to download a file using netscape and it says permission denied. Obviosly this has to do with permissions. I executed X (startx) as "/usr/home/username/startx" and of course i am "logged in as "username" when i go to save a file to /usr/home/username/ i get the permission denied error while trying to save the file. What do i need to do to allow netscape to save files to my home directory? Jason G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:22:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net (d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net [209.196.125.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617D837B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wardd@d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net) Received: (from wardd@localhost) by d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f7C9ck004810 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:38:46 GMT (envelope-from wardd) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:38:40 +0000 From: William Ward To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd and aliases on same interface Message-ID: <20010812093840.A4733@d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net> References: <20010811185447.B491@d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010811185447.B491@d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net>; from wardd@d1c47d61.gw206.dsl.airmail.net on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 06:54:47PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay. I'm new at this mailing list thing. Did I not form my question in a way that would get some sort of response? On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 06:54:47PM +0000, William Ward wrote: > How can I tell natd not to divert an alias when trying to communicate > on my local area network? > > I'm sure this is a common problem so I won't go into too much detail. > > I have four machines connected to the ports on my DSL router. I'm using > one machine with nat to connect the other three machines to the internet. > The problem is caused because I have two subnets on the same interface > and nat translates the alias to the public IP address before going > out over the local area network. > > This is what I would like to avoid: > > toaster% telnet 10.0.0.25 > ... > sawdust% who am i > wardd ttyp2 Nov 22 07:33 (128.1.1.2) > ^^^^^^^^^ this! > > I would much rather the other box see the 10.x address instead. > > d1c47d61# ifconfig dc0 > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 128.1.1.2 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 128.1.1.0 > inet6 XXXX::XXX:XXXX:XXXX:XXXX%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > inet 10.0.0.11 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 > ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX) > status: active > > d1c47d61# ipfw list > 00050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via dc0 > 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 > 65000 allow ip from any to any > 65535 deny ip from any to any > > The machine is running 4.3-CURRENT. > > /William > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13404.mail.yahoo.com (web13404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8D6A37B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thallgren@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010812143014.37016.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.236.28.252] by web13404.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:30:14 CEST Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:30:14 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tommy=20Hallgren?= Subject: pkg_info To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm trying to make pkg_info output only the package names without anything more. And I fail. pkg_info alone gives me: Mesa-3.4.1 A graphics library similar to SGI's OpenGL ORBit-0.5.7 High-performance CORBA ORB with support for the C language XFree86-4.0.3 X11R6.4/XFree86 core distribution (complete) aalib-1.2_2 An ascii art library And after reading the man page for pkg_add I simply cannot figure out how to tweak pkg_info to do this. I want a list like this: Mesa-3.4.1 ORBit-0.5.7 XFree86-4.0.3 aalib-1.2_2 Does anyone know? Regards, Tommy _____________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Ditt_namn@yahoo.se - skaffa en gratis mailadress på http://mail.yahoo.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:39:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from p1.cs.ohiou.edu (p1.cs.ohiou.edu [132.235.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A69437B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:39:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frussell@p1.cs.ohiou.edu) Received: from localhost (frussell@localhost) by p1.cs.ohiou.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07019; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Russell Francis X-Sender: frussell@p1 To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: Questions list Subject: Re: saving files with netscape (permission denied) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I went to download a file using netscape and it says permission denied. > Obviosly this has to do with permissions. Sure does! > I executed X (startx) as > "/usr/home/username/startx" and of course i am "logged in as > "username" Are you sure about this? On my system startx is /usr/X11R6/bin/startx another popular startup script is /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit > when i go to save a file to /usr/home/username/ i get the permission > denied error while trying to save the file. Are you sure about this? My home directory is /home/username /usr/* is for system files and I don't think it is writable except /usr/tmp by anyone but . try #ls -lsa /usr > What do i need to do to allow netscape to save files to my home directory? Try saving them to /home/username or use the `~' character as it defaults to your home directory whatever it may be! i.e. ~/downloads/somefile.tar.gz is the same as /home//downloads/somefile.tar.gz Good Luck, Russell Francis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:40:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276D37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e_URL@ihug.co.nz) Received: from smtp.ihug.co.nz (203-173-247-12.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.173.247.12]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id CAA25213 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:40:29 +1200 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host 203-173-247-12.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.173.247.12] claimed to be smtp.ihug.co.nz Message-Id: <997626899.650@ihug.co.nz> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:34:59 -1200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: e_URL@ihug.co.nz (DoS Research) Subject: Denial of Service Research MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir/Madam Our names are Leon Shu and John Zheng. We are students at the UNITEC Institute of Technology (New Zealand), and currently working on a DoS/DDoS (Denial of service) research project, as required for our degree. For this project we conduct research on the analysis of the DoS/DDoS technologies and threats, as well as anti DoS/DDoS tools. As part of this research, we found your email on your web site. You could be of great help to us if you could fill out our on-line survey, which we have prepared for this project. In return, we will email you the summarised outcome of the project if you do provide your email address in the survey form. Please find the survey here: http://hyperdisc.unitec.ac.nz/dos_research/ the information you give us will be analysed and results will be presented in an anonymous, generic form. Please let us assure you that all your information will remain strictly confidential. Thank you very much for assisting us! if you need to contact us, please email to e_URL@hotmail.com Yours faithfully Leon & John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:52:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.retemail.es (smtp04.iddeo.es [62.81.186.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E0637B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fxn@retemail.es) Received: from retemail.es ([62.174.69.2]) by smtp04.retemail.es (InterMail vM.5.01.03.02 201-253-122-118-102-20010403) with ESMTP id <20010812145204.ETZJ5821.smtp04.retemail.es@retemail.es> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:52:04 +0200 Message-ID: <3B769827.2D8B57CB@retemail.es> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:52:23 +0200 From: "F. Xavier Noria" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pkg_info References: <20010812143014.37016.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tommy Hallgren wrote: > I'm trying to make pkg_info output only the package names without anything > more. And I fail. > I want a list like this: > Mesa-3.4.1 > ORBit-0.5.7 > XFree86-4.0.3 > aalib-1.2_2 > > Does anyone know? In sh you can get it like this: $ pkg_info | while read pkg rest; do echo $pkg; done This uses cut(1): $ pkg_info | cut -f 1 -d' ' -- fxn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:53:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rush.telenordia.se (mail.telenordia.se [194.213.64.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DEBE37B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@minmail.net) Received: (qmail 29776 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 16:53:35 +0200 Received: from bb-62-5-36-29.bb.tninet.se (HELO pcmarpxy.tninet.se) (62.5.36.29) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 16:53:35 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mark Rowlands To: Tommy Hallgren , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pkg_info Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:53:33 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010812143014.37016.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010812143014.37016.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081216533300.63621@pcmarpxy.tninet.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 12 August 2001 16:30, Tommy Hallgren wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to make pkg_info output only the package names without anything > more. And I fail. > pkg_info | cut -f 1 -d " " To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:54: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB2937B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:54:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw2@mediaone.net) Received: from Greg (h00045a21537a.ne.mediaone.net [65.96.14.161]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f7CEs3x22305 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Greg McPherran" To: Subject: Your Mascot Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:51:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1231C.BBAFC680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1231C.BBAFC680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for = FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise you to use a = different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. = Also, you could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This = will attract people to FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, it's not = just the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far = superior to Windows in many ways. Why not get the attention you deserve = by marketing yourselves much better?=20 Thank You, Greg McPherran ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1231C.BBAFC680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software = engineer - 17=20 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise = you to use=20 a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. = Also, you=20 could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract = people=20 to FreeBSD. As  Microsoft knows very well, it's not just the = quality of the=20 product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in = many=20 ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much = better?=20
 
Thank You,
Greg = McPherran
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1231C.BBAFC680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 7:56:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E64237B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from hercules ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:56:30 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Greg McPherran" , Subject: RE: Your Mascot Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:57:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1231D.88F584E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1231D.88F584E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg, We like everything as it is, it suits us :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg McPherran Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:51 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Your Mascot Hello, I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise you to use a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. Also, you could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract people to FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, it's not just the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in many ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much better? Thank You, Greg McPherran ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1231D.88F584E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg,
We=20 like everything as it is, it suits us :)
 

--
Jonathan M. Slivko = <jslivko@blinx.net>
Blinx=20 Networks, Inc.
http://www.blinx.net/
"Microsoft, is that some = kind of=20 toilet paper?"

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From:=20 owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20 [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg=20 McPherran
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:51 = AM
To:=20 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Your=20 Mascot

Hello,
 
I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software = engineer - 17=20 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise = you to=20 use a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good = marketing.=20 Also, you could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This = will=20 attract people to FreeBSD. As  Microsoft knows very well, it's = not just=20 the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far = superior to=20 Windows in many ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by = marketing=20 yourselves much better?
 
Thank You,
Greg=20 McPherran
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C1231D.88F584E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 8:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B1737B409; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sundlm@rpi.edu) Received: from monica.cs.rpi.edu (monica.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.7.2]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA96001; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sundlm@localhost) by monica.cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA82648; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:15:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: monica.cs.rpi.edu: sundlm owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:15:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Sundling X-Sender: sundlm@monica.cs.rpi.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: sundlm@rpi.edu Subject: security check output: questionable setuid diffs help? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am new to the land of maintaining and securing my own unix-like box, and so I have been presented with all the new problems (interesting learning experiences?) that lie therein. FYI: my machine = FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #2: Fri Aug 3 19:32:28 GMT 2001 I just started reading/following online security related websites on how to secure my machine yesturday (before yesturday my machine was running at securelevel=-1, with finger/telnet/ftp all still active in the default manner), and curiously messages appeared in my daily security check emails today (pasted below). Please note the change in time stamp. I would also point out the fact that I started logging TCP/UDP connection attempts yesturday, and it looked like several (~7) machines were port scanning. Also, my ISP is a rather open cable modem network. Also, I know little about true security and the art of detecting breaches. And I have not done any recent make worlds or installed any new system software since yesturday that would cause these changes. I did remove all services from the inetd, though... Also, the header of the daily security log included: > To: undisclosed-recipients:; Is this normal? I ask because I have no 'original' logs to compare the header against, so I can't tell if this is normal. I Checked my crontab,/etc/periodic/* stuff and it _seems_ like root is the only recipient, but I can't really tell. Any suggestions? Has my machine been penetrated? Any advice? (Please excuse the long posting, but the entries are repetative and the pattern easy to see) my.hostaddr.goes.here setuid diffs: 1,74c1,79 < 31242 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root operator 56892 Apr 21 09:05:46 2001 /bin/df < 31254 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 317400 Apr 21 09:13:35 2001 /bin/rcp < 46878 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 62792 Apr 21 09:08:02 2001 /sbin/ccdconfig < 46884 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 69512 Apr 21 09:08:03 2001 /sbin/dmesg < 46946 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 329912 Apr 21 09:14:14 2001 /sbin/dump < 46922 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 196376 Apr 21 09:08:15 2001 /sbin/ping < 46923 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 191380 Apr 21 09:08:15 2001 /sbin/ping6 < 46946 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 329912 Apr 21 09:14:14 2001 /sbin/rdump < 46948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 356520 Apr 21 09:14:18 2001 /sbin/restore < 46885 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192484 Apr 21 09:08:16 2001 /sbin/route < 46948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 356520 Apr 21 09:14:18 2001 /sbin/rrestore < 46932 -r-sr-x--- 1 root operator 165008 Apr 21 09:08:17 2001 /sbin/shutdown < 548209 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7533 Mar 22 05:28:49 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper < 548170 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11980 Mar 22 05:27:06 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/dga < 326018 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8948 Apr 18 21:44:29 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-pty-helper < 548203 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 166040 Mar 22 05:27:26 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm < 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 09:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/at < 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 09:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/atq < 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 09:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/atrm < 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 09:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/batch < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chfn < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chpass < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chsh < 8247 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24508 Apr 21 09:09:59 2001 /usr/bin/crontab < 7937 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123888 Apr 21 09:06:15 2001 /usr/bin/cu < 8079 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 13108 Apr 21 09:09:26 2001 /usr/bin/fstat < 8094 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9832 Apr 21 09:09:27 2001 /usr/bin/ipcs < 8100 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 510 Apr 21 09:09:28 2001 /usr/bin/keyinfo < 8101 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7444 Apr 21 09:09:28 2001 /usr/bin/keyinit < 8118 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7004 Apr 21 09:09:31 2001 /usr/bin/lock < 8121 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20436 Apr 21 09:14:06 2001 /usr/bin/login < 8252 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 23720 Apr 21 09:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lpq < 8253 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 27304 Apr 21 09:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lpr < 8254 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 22668 Apr 21 09:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lprm < 7993 -r-sr-xr-x 1 man wheel 28512 Apr 21 09:06:46 2001 /usr/bin/man < 8140 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 85712 Apr 21 09:09:35 2001 /usr/bin/netstat < 8142 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9936 Apr 21 09:09:35 2001 /usr/bin/nfsstat < 8270 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30636 Apr 21 09:14:08 2001 /usr/bin/passwd < 8156 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10440 Apr 21 09:09:37 2001 /usr/bin/quota < 8150 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17564 Apr 21 09:14:09 2001 /usr/bin/rlogin < 8152 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14748 Apr 21 09:14:10 2001 /usr/bin/rsh < 8161 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11560 Apr 21 09:14:10 2001 /usr/bin/su < 8179 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 56144 Apr 21 09:09:41 2001 /usr/bin/systat < 8187 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32344 Apr 21 09:09:42 2001 /usr/bin/top < 7938 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88228 Apr 21 09:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uucp < 7940 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 37312 Apr 21 09:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uuname < 7943 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 96752 Apr 21 09:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uustat < 7945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88844 Apr 21 09:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uux < 8212 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 16368 Apr 21 09:09:47 2001 /usr/bin/vmstat < 8214 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 9040 Apr 21 09:09:47 2001 /usr/bin/wall < 8222 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 7500 Apr 21 09:09:48 2001 /usr/bin/write < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchfn < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchpass < 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 09:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchsh < 8270 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30636 Apr 21 09:14:08 2001 /usr/bin/yppasswd < 730141 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root games 7176 Apr 21 09:05:56 2001 /usr/games/dm < 476168 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 398740 Apr 21 09:10:28 2001 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail < 492035 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 220704 Apr 21 09:06:15 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico < 492036 -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 99584 Apr 21 09:06:17 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt < 183184 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 641862 Aug 4 14:18:49 2001 /usr/local/bin/xscreensaver < 507951 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 4664 Apr 21 09:10:01 2001 /usr/sbin/ifmcstat < 507953 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9608 Apr 21 09:10:01 2001 /usr/sbin/iostat < 508068 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon 30196 Apr 21 09:10:25 2001 /usr/sbin/lpc < 507971 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16348 Apr 21 09:10:04 2001 /usr/sbin/mrinfo < 507973 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29896 Apr 21 09:10:05 2001 /usr/sbin/mtrace < 508111 -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 295124 Apr 21 09:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/ppp < 508112 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 95388 Apr 21 09:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/pppd < 508009 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 21 09:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/pstat < 508032 -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 11112 Apr 21 09:10:19 2001 /usr/sbin/sliplogin < 508009 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 21 09:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/swapinfo < 508040 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15112 Apr 21 09:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/timedc < 508041 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13168 Apr 21 09:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute < 508042 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 14952 Apr 21 09:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute6 < 508043 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 8040 Apr 21 09:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/trpt --- > 31242 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root operator 56892 Apr 21 05:05:46 2001 /bin/df > 31254 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 317400 Apr 21 05:13:35 2001 /bin/rcp > 46878 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 62792 Apr 21 05:08:02 2001 /sbin/ccdconfig > 46884 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 69512 Apr 21 05:08:03 2001 /sbin/dmesg > 46946 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 329912 Apr 21 05:14:14 2001 /sbin/dump > 46922 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 196376 Apr 21 05:08:15 2001 /sbin/ping > 46923 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 191380 Apr 21 05:08:15 2001 /sbin/ping6 > 46946 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 329912 Apr 21 05:14:14 2001 /sbin/rdump > 46948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 356520 Apr 21 05:14:18 2001 /sbin/restore > 46885 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 192484 Apr 21 05:08:16 2001 /sbin/route > 46948 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root tty 356520 Apr 21 05:14:18 2001 /sbin/rrestore > 46932 -r-sr-x--- 1 root operator 165008 Apr 21 05:08:17 2001 /sbin/shutdown > 548209 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7533 Mar 22 00:28:49 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/Xwrapper > 548170 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11980 Mar 22 00:27:06 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/dga > 326018 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8948 Apr 18 17:44:29 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-pty-helper > 548203 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 166040 Mar 22 00:27:26 2001 /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm > 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 05:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/at > 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 05:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/atq > 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 05:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/atrm > 8039 -r-sr-xr-x 4 root wheel 19540 Apr 21 05:09:19 2001 /usr/bin/batch > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chfn > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chpass > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/chsh > 8247 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24508 Apr 21 05:09:59 2001 /usr/bin/crontab > 7937 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 123888 Apr 21 05:06:15 2001 /usr/bin/cu > 8079 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 13108 Apr 21 05:09:26 2001 /usr/bin/fstat > 8094 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9832 Apr 21 05:09:27 2001 /usr/bin/ipcs > 8100 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 510 Apr 21 05:09:28 2001 /usr/bin/keyinfo > 8101 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7444 Apr 21 05:09:28 2001 /usr/bin/keyinit > 8118 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7004 Apr 21 05:09:31 2001 /usr/bin/lock > 8121 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20436 Apr 21 05:14:06 2001 /usr/bin/login > 8252 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 23720 Apr 21 05:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lpq > 8253 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 27304 Apr 21 05:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lpr > 8254 -r-sr-sr-x 1 root daemon 22668 Apr 21 05:10:26 2001 /usr/bin/lprm > 7993 -r-sr-xr-x 1 man wheel 28512 Apr 21 05:06:46 2001 /usr/bin/man > 8140 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 85712 Apr 21 05:09:35 2001 /usr/bin/netstat > 8142 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9936 Apr 21 05:09:35 2001 /usr/bin/nfsstat > 8270 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30636 Apr 21 05:14:08 2001 /usr/bin/passwd > 8156 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10440 Apr 21 05:09:37 2001 /usr/bin/quota > 8150 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 17564 Apr 21 05:14:09 2001 /usr/bin/rlogin > 8152 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14748 Apr 21 05:14:10 2001 /usr/bin/rsh > 8161 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11560 Apr 21 05:14:10 2001 /usr/bin/su > 8179 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 56144 Apr 21 05:09:41 2001 /usr/bin/systat > 8187 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32344 Apr 21 05:09:42 2001 /usr/bin/top > 7938 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88228 Apr 21 05:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uucp > 7940 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 37312 Apr 21 05:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uuname > 7943 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 96752 Apr 21 05:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uustat > 7945 -r-sr-xr-x 1 uucp wheel 88844 Apr 21 05:06:16 2001 /usr/bin/uux > 8212 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 16368 Apr 21 05:09:47 2001 /usr/bin/vmstat > 8214 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 9040 Apr 21 05:09:47 2001 /usr/bin/wall > 8222 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root tty 7500 Apr 21 05:09:48 2001 /usr/bin/write > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchfn > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchpass > 8051 -r-sr-xr-x 6 root wheel 32280 Apr 21 05:09:21 2001 /usr/bin/ypchsh > 8270 -r-sr-xr-x 2 root wheel 30636 Apr 21 05:14:08 2001 /usr/bin/yppasswd > 730141 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root games 7176 Apr 21 05:05:56 2001 /usr/games/dm > 476168 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 398740 Apr 21 05:10:28 2001 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail > 492035 -r-sr-sr-x 1 uucp dialer 220704 Apr 21 05:06:15 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uucico > 492036 -r-sr-s--- 1 uucp uucp 99584 Apr 21 05:06:17 2001 /usr/libexec/uucp/uuxqt > 207208 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4632 Apr 18 20:57:53 2001 /usr/local/bin/artswrapper > 365951 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8701 Apr 19 00:58:19 2001 /usr/local/bin/kcheckpass > 365960 -rwxr-sr-x 1 root nobody 68088 Apr 19 01:00:57 2001 /usr/local/bin/kdesud > 365981 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5336 Apr 19 01:04:54 2001 /usr/local/bin/konsole_grantpty > 691408 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 480944 Apr 18 22:48:57 2001 /usr/local/bin/kppp > 183184 -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 641862 Aug 4 10:18:49 2001 /usr/local/bin/xscreensaver > 507951 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 4664 Apr 21 05:10:01 2001 /usr/sbin/ifmcstat > 507953 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 9608 Apr 21 05:10:01 2001 /usr/sbin/iostat > 508068 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root daemon 30196 Apr 21 05:10:25 2001 /usr/sbin/lpc > 507971 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16348 Apr 21 05:10:04 2001 /usr/sbin/mrinfo > 507973 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 29896 Apr 21 05:10:05 2001 /usr/sbin/mtrace > 508111 -r-sr-xr-- 1 root network 295124 Apr 21 05:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/ppp > 508112 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 95388 Apr 21 05:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/pppd > 508009 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 21 05:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/pstat > 508032 -r-sr-x--- 1 root network 11112 Apr 21 05:10:19 2001 /usr/sbin/sliplogin > 508009 -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 14808 Apr 21 05:10:16 2001 /usr/sbin/swapinfo > 508040 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 15112 Apr 21 05:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/timedc > 508041 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root wheel 13168 Apr 21 05:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute > 508042 -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 14952 Apr 21 05:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/traceroute6 > 508043 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 8040 Apr 21 05:10:20 2001 /usr/sbin/trpt Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 8:39:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA6237B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sw2@mediaone.net) Received: from Greg (h00045a21537a.ne.mediaone.net [65.96.14.161]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f7CFdGx22184 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004701c12344$975bab00$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Greg McPherran" To: Subject: RE: FreeBSD Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:36:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C12323.0CD99C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C12323.0CD99C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is also to you Dave (Leimbach), I think it would increase sales in the store. I noticed that when = browsing the alternative OS section, the box and mascot did not have the = effect on me that perhaps you want it to have. Others must also have the = same reaction. I praise your team for the great work you do delivering = an excellent OS package. I was under the impression that FreeBSD also = encouraged people to purchase the boxed set to help support your team. 1.If you do encourage people to purchase the boxed set then I think my = idea will significantly increase sales just from a marketing point of = view. 2. If potential FreeBSD advocates like me don't like it - why wouldn't = you consider changing it just out of consideration for others? Dave, thanks for the fun response - certainly the people involved in = FreeBSD are a great group. Now about that darn little devil :-) ...... = And as you seem to have suspected, I am a Christian (Roman Catholic). We = Catholics are a bit more easy going when it comes to the = well-intentioned use of symbols. But it's still a turn-off :-) What is = it with you open/free software people - Richard Stallman has halos, a = church of Emacs, saint Ignucious, a shell called Bourne Again, and you = have a devil for a mascot. Then you tell me religion should be kept = separate from a OS? :-) I agree, or at least it should not poke fun or = mock beliefs. I have had several converstaions with Richard also :-) = That's all I'm saying - let's get the religious symbolism out of the = OSes. Alas, I see I am going to have to take either Linux of FreeBSD and = make my own distro. That is one great thing about free software - you = can do that. Now, which should I use FreeBSD or Linux? I lean towards = FreeBSD but Linux seems to have more drivers. For example, I have an HP = 8230e external USB CD-Writer. Are there drivers for this for FreeBSD? Do = you know of any external USB CD-Writers that will work with FreeBSD?=20 Many Thanks, Greg ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C12323.0CD99C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is also to you Dave = (Leimbach),
 
I think it would increase sales in the = store. I=20 noticed that when browsing the alternative OS section, the box and = mascot did=20 not have the effect on me that perhaps you want it to have. Others must = also=20 have the same reaction. I praise your team for the great work you do = delivering=20 an excellent OS package. I was under the impression that FreeBSD also = encouraged=20 people to purchase the boxed set to help support your team.
 
1.If you do encourage people to = purchase the boxed=20 set then I think my idea will significantly increase sales just from a = marketing=20 point of view.
 
2. If potential FreeBSD advocates like = me don't=20 like it - why wouldn't you consider changing it just out of = consideration for=20 others?
 
Dave, thanks for the fun response - certainly the people involved = in=20 FreeBSD are a great group. Now about that darn little devil :-)=20 ......   And as you seem to have suspected, I am a = Christian=20 (Roman Catholic). We Catholics are a bit more easy going when it comes = to the=20 well-intentioned use of symbols. But it's still a turn-off :-) What is = it with=20 you open/free software people - Richard Stallman has halos, a church of = Emacs,=20 saint Ignucious, a shell called Bourne Again, and you have a = devil for=20 a mascot. Then you tell me religion should be kept separate from a OS? = :-) I=20 agree, or at least it should not poke fun or mock beliefs. I have = had=20 several converstaions with Richard also :-) That's all I'm saying - = let's get=20 the religious symbolism out of the OSes. Alas, I see I am going to have = to take=20 either Linux of FreeBSD and make my own distro. That is one great thing = about=20 free software - you can do that. Now, which should I use FreeBSD or = Linux? I=20 lean towards FreeBSD but Linux seems to have more drivers. For example, = I have=20 an HP 8230e external USB CD-Writer. Are there drivers for this for = FreeBSD? Do=20 you know of any external USB CD-Writers that will work with FreeBSD? =
 
Many Thanks,
Greg
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C12323.0CD99C60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 8:42:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3733A37B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00135; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:41:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: Subject: RE: mail server question Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:41:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <15222.23636.187568.435868@guru.mired.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using sendmail 8.11.3 and I made sure that those domain names are not in /etc/mail/local-host-names. Actually they don't show up anywhere except in the httpd.conf. I've been pulling my hair going over and over all the configs. :) ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:37 AM > To: Marius Kirschner > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: mail server question > > > Marius Kirschner types: > > I have a little dilemma and I can't seem to figure out how to fix this. > > Okay, here's the scenerio. > > > > I have 2 FreeBSD boxes, one that is acting as the DNS and mail > server and > > the other as my web server. If somebody sents an e-mail from > the outside to > > a virtual domain that is being hosted on the web server the mail is > > delivered correctly. However, if the web server tries to send an e-mail > > (via a web form mail or so) to a virtual domain it tried to deliver it > > locally. > > > > I think I need to set some MX records on the localhost so it > knows that it's > > not in charge of the mail for those domains, but where? Any > pointers are > > greatly appreciated. Thanks, > > Sounds more like the mailer on the web server is misconfigured, so > that it thinks the domain name for the mail server is a local domain > name. Hard to say what to look at without knowing which MTA you're > using. > > -- > Mike Meyer > http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more > information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 8:54:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.ehsrealtime.com [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85E37B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 08:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@penguinpowered.org.uk) Received: from madadmin.demon.co.uk ([193.237.103.251] helo=marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15VxZN-0003zU-01; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:54:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.10.11] (helo=pan.realtime.co.uk) by marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15VxU1-0001pk-00; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:48:57 +0100 Received: from waynep by pan.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15VxYX-00043S-00; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:53:37 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "Greg McPherran" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD References: <004701c12344$975bab00$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 12 Aug 2001 16:53:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <004701c12344$975bab00$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: <86hevdff5q.fsf@pan.home.penguinpowered.org.uk> Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg McPherran" writes: > 1.If you do encourage people to purchase the boxed set then I think > my idea will significantly increase sales just from a marketing > point of view. At this point after reading two of your mails I have yet to see 'your idea'. So far I've seen comments insinuating that you don't like the way FreeBSD is marketed or the chosen logo. I've not seen alternative logo ideas (properly designed please!) and I've not seen any marketing advice. Just an e-mail saying 'I don't like your logo and spend some money on advertising please'. > 2. If potential FreeBSD advocates like me don't like it - why > wouldn't you consider changing it just out of consideration for > others? Potential FreeBSD advocates who have only considered installing the OS. Advocates who've not done a single thing with it. At this point you (like me) have made no contribution to FreeBSD. Why don't you leave the worrying about the logo to the people who control FreeBSD and rather expend this energy trying to learn and work with FreeBSD? I think you'll find the logo doesn't matter a damn when the OS works as well as FreeBSD does. People who are going to use FreeBSD are going to use it because it is a rock solid operating system. People who have already been brainwashed by the MS marketing crusade aren't going to move to FreeBSD whether we change to logo or not. We are using FreeBSD throughout the company I work for. The board have never seen the FreeBSD web page or logo and they probably never will. That's why we have a tech department. The board know that FreeBSD has saved them about GBP20,000 over the Linux solutions that were in place, and beyond this, they don't care! I have a nasty feeling that I'm feeding the trolls here. -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:17: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za [196.2.48.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5E37B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from psyv@root.org.za) Received: from pta-dial-196-31-190-18.mweb.co.za ([196.31.190.18]) by jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GHY00B1TQJQMC@jhb-proxy.mweb.co.za> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:16:40 +0200 (GMT-2) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:18:37 +0200 (SAST) From: The Psychotic Viper Subject: Re: Kernel could not be installed In-reply-to: <20010812135512.77691.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> To: Abbaasi Hasan Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010812181449.L19514-100000@lucifer.fuzion.za.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Abbaasi Hasan wrote: > I built a new kernel and these 2 commands were > successfull > #make depend > #make > but the command > #make install returns this error" > { > chflags noschg /kernel > chflags: /kernel:Operation not permitted > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > mv /kernel /kernel.old > mv: rename /kernel /kernel.old: Operation not > permitted > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/FIREWALL > } > i am as root. > there is another kernel.old in /. i moved it to other > location but it didn't change anything. > Any help please best guess I can take is either you kernel security levels enabled or noschg set on the kernel. Drop your kernel secure level to low to install the kernel and then to your current level when that is done, else 'chflags noschg /kernel*' and try it again. hth PsyV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:35:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pineypl.COM (dsl-216-227-86-197.telocity.com [216.227.86.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9241737B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@pineypl.COM) Received: (from bob@localhost) by pineypl.COM (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7CGZTF03910; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:35:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:35:28 -0400 From: Bob Collins To: Greg McPherran Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your Mascot Message-ID: <20010812123528.B1491@kludge.pineypl> Mail-Followup-To: Greg McPherran , questions@freebsd.org References: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net>; from sw2@mediaone.net on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:51:25AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:51:25AM -0400, Greg McPherran wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise you to use a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. Also, you could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract people to FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, it's not just the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in many ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much better? > > Thank You, > Greg McPherran Does Microsoft really know about quality? ;) Read the history of the Daemon, it is a good mascot. You prolly want to get rid of Indians, and other politically incorrect mascots from professional sports as well. ;) Beside, if people don't get it, maybe they shouldn't be here. Just my $0.02 -Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:39:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CFE37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id 702BErU01875; Wed, 2 Jan 1907 07:14:53 -0400 (EWT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:39:28 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Russell Francis Cc: Questions list Subject: Re: saving files with netscape (permission denied) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok so i can save then to a folder in my home directory just not to the root of my hmoe directory. and yes i was wrong i am trying to save it in /home/username.....so that is the correct way to save it....unless i want to say it to a folder (which i did) in my hmoe directory..so..wonder what it could be? Jasoin On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Russell Francis wrote: > > I went to download a file using netscape and it says permission denied. > > Obviosly this has to do with permissions. > > Sure does! > > > I executed X (startx) as > > "/usr/home/username/startx" and of course i am "logged in as > > "username" > > Are you sure about this? On my system startx is /usr/X11R6/bin/startx > another popular startup script is /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit > > > when i go to save a file to /usr/home/username/ i get the permission > > denied error while trying to save the file. > > Are you sure about this? My home directory is /home/username > /usr/* is for system files and I don't think it is writable except > /usr/tmp by anyone but . try > > #ls -lsa /usr > > > What do i need to do to allow netscape to save files to my home directory? > > Try saving them to /home/username or use the `~' character as it defaults > to your home directory whatever it may be! i.e. > ~/downloads/somefile.tar.gz > > is the same as > > /home//downloads/somefile.tar.gz > > > Good Luck, > Russell Francis > G. Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:40:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1out.umbc.edu (mx1out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4736337B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id 702BFrU01887; Wed, 2 Jan 1907 07:15:53 -0400 (EWT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:40:27 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: **Restricted Data** Cc: Questions list Subject: Re: sound trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nah dont give me the error code...however giving me the n\kind of sound card might help. Jason On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, **Restricted Data** wrote: > well i tryed to setup option sb for soundblaster but the kernel wouldn't > compile it had driver errors or something i'll redo what i did in a min and > give you the error code? > > > >From: "G. Jason Middleton" > >To: **Restricted Data** > >CC: > >Subject: Re: sound trouble > >Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:15:17 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [130.85.253.51] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBD3FDA760056400437198255FD33B13B0; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:15:19 -0700 > >Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu > >[130.85.60.8])by mx1out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id > >7028ohU29766;Wed, 2 Jan 1907 04:50:43 -0400 (EWT) > >From gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:16:11 -0700 > >In-Reply-To: > >Message-ID: > > > > > >Have you compiled your kernel with sound support? > > > >Jason > > > >On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, **Restricted Data** wrote: > > > > > I was wondering if theirs any peepz that have setup their soundcard cus > >it's > > > kickin my ass ;/ i have setup speakers in the kernel MAKEDEV them and > >then > > > did a MAKEDEV to pcaudio i know theirs more to it but from everything i > >been > > > reading that's all it tells you(i'm reading from the book) anyways i'm > > > running 4.2rel well thanks for anyhelp you may give(1331 soundblaster > >which > > > is supported) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > >G. 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Jason Middleton _______________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:48: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E58837B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hawk-systems.com) Received: from WS1 (ws1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [204.50.158.15]) by hawk-systems.com (8.11.2) id f7CGm3A12568 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:48:03 -0600 (MDT) From: dave@hawk-systems.com (Dave) To: Subject: RE: mail server question Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:44:46 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While this is not an asnwer to your sendmail dilema... would suggest a far more usable mail solution for virtual hosting. take a look at http://matt.simerson.net/computing/qmail.toaster.shtml has everything including virtual domain, web adminsitration, webmail the works... if you are familiar with directory structure, config editing, and apache you can easily modify this so each virtual domain uses thier own mail admin and webmail services... Havn't looked back at sendmail since. Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Marius >Kirschner >Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:42 AM >To: Mike Meyer >Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: mail server question > > >Using sendmail 8.11.3 and I made sure that those domain names are not in >/etc/mail/local-host-names. Actually they don't show up anywhere except in >the httpd.conf. I've been pulling my hair going over and over all the >configs. :) > >---Marius > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Meyer >> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 6:37 AM >> To: Marius Kirschner >> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> Subject: Re: mail server question >> >> >> Marius Kirschner types: >> > I have a little dilemma and I can't seem to figure out how to fix this. >> > Okay, here's the scenerio. >> > >> > I have 2 FreeBSD boxes, one that is acting as the DNS and mail >> server and >> > the other as my web server. If somebody sents an e-mail from >> the outside to >> > a virtual domain that is being hosted on the web server the mail is >> > delivered correctly. However, if the web server tries to send an e-mail >> > (via a web form mail or so) to a virtual domain it tried to deliver it >> > locally. >> > >> > I think I need to set some MX records on the localhost so it >> knows that it's >> > not in charge of the mail for those domains, but where? Any >> pointers are >> > greatly appreciated. Thanks, >> >> Sounds more like the mailer on the web server is misconfigured, so >> that it thinks the domain name for the mail server is a local domain >> name. Hard to say what to look at without knowing which MTA you're >> using. >> >> > -- >> Mike Meyer >> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >> Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more >> information. >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2out.umbc.edu (mx2out.umbc.edu [130.85.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9389037B40A for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:50:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmiddl1@gl.umbc.edu) Received: from irix1.gl.umbc.edu (gmiddl1@irix1.gl.umbc.edu [130.85.60.8]) by mx2out.umbc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7CGo6I04339; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:50:06 -0400 From: "G. Jason Middleton" To: Greg McPherran Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <004701c12344$975bab00$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I also just enjoyed reading your two emails and must say that if they were brilliant enough to think of FreeBSD, don't you think that atleast one of the brilliant fellows would have (if they were interested) marketed it a different way? Is marketed even a word? I am not sure...but that is why I am a user of FreeBSD versus someone trying to give advise about marketing...I am not very good at spelling...see I even spelled advice wrong in the sentence above this one! Sweet Dreams. Jason On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Greg McPherran wrote: > This is also to you Dave (Leimbach), > > I think it would increase sales in the store. I noticed that when browsin= g the alternative OS section, the box and mascot did not have the effect on= me that perhaps you want it to have. Others must also have the same reacti= on. I praise your team for the great work you do delivering an excellent OS= package. I was under the impression that FreeBSD also encouraged people to= purchase the boxed set to help support your team. > > 1.If you do encourage people to purchase the boxed set then I think my id= ea will significantly increase sales just from a marketing point of view. > > 2. If potential FreeBSD advocates like me don't like it - why wouldn't yo= u consider changing it just out of consideration for others? > > Dave, thanks for the fun response - certainly the people involved in Free= BSD are a great group. Now about that darn little devil :-) ...... And as= you seem to have suspected, I am a Christian (Roman Catholic). We Catholic= s are a bit more easy going when it comes to the well-intentioned use of sy= mbols. But it's still a turn-off :-) What is it with you open/free software= people - Richard Stallman has halos, a church of Emacs, saint Ignucious, a= shell called Bourne Again, and you have a devil for a mascot. Then you tel= l me religion should be kept separate from a OS? :-) I agree, or at least i= t should not poke fun or mock beliefs. I have had several converstaions wit= h Richard also :-) That's all I'm saying - let's get the religious symbolis= m out of the OSes. Alas, I see I am going to have to take either Linux of F= reeBSD and make my own distro. That is one great thing about free software = - you can do that. Now, which should I use FreeBSD or Linux? I lean towards= FreeBSD but Linux seems to have more drivers. For example, I have an HP 82= 30e external USB CD-Writer. Are there drivers for this for FreeBSD? Do you = know of any external USB CD-Writers that will work with FreeBSD? > > Many Thanks, > Greg > G. Jason Middleton ___________________________________________________________________________= ____ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 9:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.bmi.net (yoda.bmi.net [204.57.191.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AA837B40C for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by yoda.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23392; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:23:32 -0700 Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by johncoop.MSHOME (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7CGunG38296; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:56:48 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 Message-ID: <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> References: <55215299@toto.iv> <15222.33820.72582.176034@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <15222.33820.72582.176034@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 06:26:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.7 Lines: 32 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.08.12 06:26 Mike Meyer wrote: > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > I have a DFI AK74-EC motherboard (VIA 686 chipset) and a Lexmark Z51 > > printer. I would like to be able to print to the Z51 using /dev/ulpt0. > > > When connected, my dmesg output indicates that the Z51 is detected and > > connected to /dev/ulpt0. However, attempts to print to this port > (using > > apsfilter, cp some_text_file /dev/ulpt0, etc.) have resulted in no > activity > > and no apparent transfer of data to the printer. > > > > So the question comes, what must I say over my computer to make things > > print? :) > > LexMark tends to make cheap winprinters. That lexmark claims the z51 > works on "DOS through Windows" instead of "DOS" makes me think you > have one. If so, the only hope for making it work is to find a > ghostscript driver for your printer. > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more > information. > No, I can confirm that the Z51 is not a "WinPrinter"--this same printer works great hooked up through USB to an OS/2 machine. I'm almost positive that no data is reaching the printer. jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10: 3:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from propane.zoomph.net (propane.zoomph.net [209.26.220.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29F0037B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anonymous@propane.zoomph.net) Received: (qmail 45254 invoked by uid 97); 12 Aug 2001 17:03:30 -0000 Date: 12 Aug 2001 17:03:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20010812170330.45253.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dev-null@no-id.com Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: sound trouble Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey there... Strange. My sound is working like a charm. Clean as a whistle. I had to download the ich.c device driver and register it with kernel sources before recompiling, but I now have sound. What I suggest you do is install the kernel source code (with sysinstall or CVS) and hack around a bit with the sound device drivers. Just toy around there and see what you can come up with. There's a lot of info in the manual pages which can guide you through the process and allow you to get your bearings. One thing I like about 4.3-R is that it introduced some sound modules in /modules that allow you to test out various configurations before going through the longer kernel recompilation process. Do you really need sound? You could always have a Windows machine with your web browser and audio software, sitting next to your FreeBSD machine. You could even dual boot Windows+FreeBSD and swith between them as necessary (there is documentation on the Net that tells you how to do this). xmms is a cool mp3 player; freeamp is kinda neat also. ===== I was wondering if theirs any peepz that have setup their soundcard cus it's kickin my ass ;/ i have setup speakers in the kernel MAKEDEV them and then did a MAKEDEV to pcaudio i know theirs more to it but from everything i been reading that's all it tells you(i'm reading from the book) anyways i'm running 4.2rel well thanks for anyhelp you may give(1331 soundblaster which is supported) ===== -- This message has been sent via an anonymous mail relay at www.no-id.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10: 4:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5E6837B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 70574 invoked by uid 100); 12 Aug 2001 17:04:29 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15222.46877.167367.359239@guru.mired.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:04:29 -0500 To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 In-Reply-To: <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> References: <55215299@toto.iv> <15222.33820.72582.176034@guru.mired.org> <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Merryweather Cooper types: > On 2001.08.12 06:26 Mike Meyer wrote: > > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > > I have a DFI AK74-EC motherboard (VIA 686 chipset) and a Lexmark Z51 > > > printer. I would like to be able to print to the Z51 using /dev/ulpt0. > > > > > When connected, my dmesg output indicates that the Z51 is detected and > > > connected to /dev/ulpt0. However, attempts to print to this port > > (using > > > apsfilter, cp some_text_file /dev/ulpt0, etc.) have resulted in no > > activity > > > and no apparent transfer of data to the printer. > > > > > > So the question comes, what must I say over my computer to make things > > > print? :) > > No, I can confirm that the Z51 is not a "WinPrinter"--this same printer > works great hooked up through USB to an OS/2 machine. I'm almost positive > that no data is reaching the printer. I'm not familiar with OS/2, but compatability with Windows was one of it's selling points. Are you sure you're not running a rendering engine on the OS/2 box? If dmesg shows the that printer being connected to ulpt0 and copying data to /dev/ulpt0 doesn't result in data showing up at the printer, then the problem is probably hardware. It may be that lexmark and the ulpt implementor disagree about some part of the standard, which is a hardware bug if lexmark is wrong, or a software bug if ulpt is wrong. In the latter case, you'll need to debug the driver. Oh yeah - the one time I had a problem like this, it turned out that the USB controller was trying to share an IRQ with something that didn't play nicely. Tweaking the IRQ configuration fixed the problem. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:14:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.snet.net (mx2.snet.net [204.60.203.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCF037B407 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j.carlson@snet.net) Received: from enkil (204.60.31.221.snet.net [204.60.31.221]) by mx2.snet.net (8.12.0.Beta12/8.12.0.Beta12/SNET-mx-1.5/D-evisionO-evision$) with SMTP id f7CHEHLP026921 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004501c12352$5ca93cd0$010aa8c0@enkil> From: "Jae Carlson" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Rebooting Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:14:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Jae Carlson" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I am wondering why my FreeBSD box keeps rebooting like every 12 hours or so. It is annoying any and all help appreciated. Jae To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:17:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.bmi.net (yoda.bmi.net [204.57.191.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C515937B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by yoda.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26231; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:43:53 -0700 Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by johncoop.MSHOME (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7CHHAG45696; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:17:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:17:10 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Mike Meyer Cc: John Merryweather Cooper , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 Message-ID: <20010812101710.S477@johncoop> References: <55215299@toto.iv> <15222.33820.72582.176034@guru.mired.org> <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> <15222.46877.167367.359239@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <15222.46877.167367.359239@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:04:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.7 Lines: 68 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.08.12 10:04 Mike Meyer wrote: > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > On 2001.08.12 06:26 Mike Meyer wrote: > > > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > > > I have a DFI AK74-EC motherboard (VIA 686 chipset) and a Lexmark > Z51 > > > > printer. I would like to be able to print to the Z51 using > /dev/ulpt0. > > > > > > > When connected, my dmesg output indicates that the Z51 is detected > and > > > > connected to /dev/ulpt0. However, attempts to print to this port > > > (using > > > > apsfilter, cp some_text_file /dev/ulpt0, etc.) have resulted in no > > > activity > > > > and no apparent transfer of data to the printer. > > > > > > > > So the question comes, what must I say over my computer to make > things > > > > print? :) > > > > No, I can confirm that the Z51 is not a "WinPrinter"--this same printer > > works great hooked up through USB to an OS/2 machine. I'm almost > positive > > that no data is reaching the printer. > > I'm not familiar with OS/2, but compatability with Windows was one of > it's selling points. Are you sure you're not running a rendering > engine on the OS/2 box? > I am VERY familiar with OS/2. NO, absolutely NO RENDERING engine is running. > If dmesg shows the that printer being connected to ulpt0 and copying > data to /dev/ulpt0 doesn't result in data showing up at the printer, > then the problem is probably hardware. It may be that lexmark and the > ulpt implementor disagree about some part of the standard, which is a > hardware bug if lexmark is wrong, or a software bug if ulpt is > wrong. In the latter case, you'll need to debug the driver. > > Oh yeah - the one time I had a problem like this, it turned out that > the USB controller was trying to share an IRQ with something that > didn't play nicely. Tweaking the IRQ configuration fixed the problem. > Well, there are TWO USB controllers on a VIA 686 (total of four ports on the motherboard) and they both share the same interrupt. Not much I can do about that. > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more > information. > Well, there's a third possibility--the USB support on FreeBSD doesn't like VIA chipsets. I had this problem with OS/2--the first generation of USB drivers supported only Intel chipsets. VIA does something slightly different. A literally two-byte patch to the binary of the driver solved things, and the second generation of the OS/2 driver encorporated this patch. The symptoms are nearly identical to mine--no data reaches the device. Anybody have working USB to modems or printers on VIA chipset motherboards? jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:33:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ca.inter.net (smtp.ca.inter.net [38.210.35.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B0F37B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cckok00@hotmail.com) Received: from ip106.toronto103.dialup.canada.psi.net ([154.20.97.106] helo=hotmail.com) by smtp.ca.inter.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #2) id 15Vz77-00007q-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3B76BE0C.C9E01CC5@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:34:04 -0400 From: Peter Kok X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: kernal log messages Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I just receved following messages. I would like to know what are the meaning: 1/ What is 193.219.52.204 purpose? 2/ Why does it try ftp to my server? 3/ What do they want? 4/ what is meaning getaddrinfo, AF_INET 5/ why did try ftp instead of telnet to my server if they want to do sth? thank you Regards Peter its.com.hk kernel log messages: > Aug 11 17:34:57 its inetd[3387]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 30: can't verify hostname: getaddrinfo(axrxt.stp.lt, AF_INET) failed > Aug 11 17:35:02 its inetd[3391]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 30: can't verify hostname: getaddrinfo(axrxt.stp.lt, AF_INET) failed > Aug 11 17:35:04 its inetd[3391]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) > Aug 11 17:35:17 its inetd[3387]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) > Aug 11 17:35:21 its inetd[3392]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 30: can't verify hostname: getaddrinfo(axrxt.stp.lt, AF_INET) failed > Aug 11 17:35:22 its inetd[3392]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) its.com.hk login failures: its.com.hk refused connections: Aug 11 17:35:04 its inetd[3391]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) Aug 11 17:35:17 its inetd[3387]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) Aug 11 17:35:22 its inetd[3392]: refused connection from 193.219.52.204, service ftpd (tcp) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:34: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8A737B40D; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from meshko@polkan2.dyndns.org) Received: from user-2ivef3h.dsl.mindspring.com (user-2ivef3h.dsl.mindspring.com [165.247.60.113]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03477; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Kruk X-X-Sender: To: Matthew Sundling Cc: , Subject: Re: security check output: questionable setuid diffs help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you were running telnetd from original 4.3-RELEASE and have not done anything (like build world or some other way of upgrading) there 99% probability that you got hacked; most likely through the telnetd vulerability. Take the machien off line and reinstall from the clean media. As far as I know "undisclosed recepients" is fine. I don't know what are the reasons to have it this way. > I am new to the land of maintaining and securing my own unix-like > box, and so I have been presented with all the new problems > (interesting learning experiences?) that lie therein. > > FYI: my machine = FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #2: Fri Aug 3 19:32:28 > GMT 2001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0354A37B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.100.199.5]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812173400.OVQA5127.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:34:00 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C90B750D0F; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:33:53 -0400 From: parv To: Russell Francis Cc: "G. Jason Middleton" , Questions list Subject: Re: saving files with netscape (permission denied) Message-ID: <20010812133353.A6277@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Russell Francis , "G. Jason Middleton" , Questions list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from frussell@p1.cs.ohiou.edu on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:39:24AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 12 10:39 -0400, sent by Russell Francis > ... > > when i go to save a file to /usr/home/username/ i get the permission > > denied error while trying to save the file. > > Are you sure about this? My home directory is /home/username > /usr/* is for system files and I don't think it is writable except > /usr/tmp by anyone but . ... if /home is a symbolic link to /usr/home, like i have, then /home/username is same as /usr/home/username (for all practical purposes). in either case, /home (and/or /usr/home) would be owned/writeable by root. -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:39:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from propane.zoomph.net (propane.zoomph.net [209.26.220.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 304B837B405 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anonymous@propane.zoomph.net) Received: (qmail 45705 invoked by uid 97); 12 Aug 2001 17:39:34 -0000 Date: 12 Aug 2001 17:39:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20010812173934.45704.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: dev-null@no-id.com Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: reboot Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Joseph, This can usually occur if your power supply is faulty. During AC drop, if the unit's retention mechanism is not doing its job correctly, a reboot is possible. You should either try replacing your power supply or have a qualified technician examine yours for you. If it's a kernel panic, you can use dumpon and savecore to obtain a crash dump of the system, then you can do some debugging by backtracing the image you get. The handbook discusses this in detail and also recommends using a debug kernel to do this. Then it's relatively trivial to hack around a bit and thrash together a patch for the problem. Just toy around a little and see what you come up with. ===== Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:14:58 -0400 From: "Jae Carlson" To: "FreeBSD" Subject: Rebooting Message-ID: <004501c12352$5ca93cd0$010aa8c0@enkil> Greetings, I am wondering why my FreeBSD box keeps rebooting like every 12 hours or so. It is annoying any and all help appreciated. Jae -- This message has been sent via an anonymous mail relay at www.no-id.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 10:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freeze.org (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9452737B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@freeze.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freeze.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f7CHpk811802; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:51:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/alt_queue X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed by jim with -C /web/siteinfo/freeze/mail/sendmail.cf Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-X-Sender: To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: Mike Meyer , Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 In-Reply-To: <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > On 2001.08.12 06:26 Mike Meyer wrote: > > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > > > LexMark tends to make cheap winprinters. That lexmark claims the z51 > > works on "DOS through Windows" instead of "DOS" makes me think you > > have one. If so, the only hope for making it work is to find a > > ghostscript driver for your printer. > > The lexmark printer works through DOS because it has a DOS printer driver. The lexmark consumer inkjet printers have a propietary file format. They do not understand postscript or pcl. Essentially, the data must be rasterized into cmyk binary data before it is sent to the printer. Last time I looked there were about five different drivers that worked with ghostscript. These drivers reverse engineered the printhead and converted RGB data from ghostscript into the propietary lexmark cmyk binary format. Lexmark also recently released a linux driver. I have not heard if anyone has got this to work with freebsd. If you want to test if your printer is getting data, do a print to file on a windows machine (something small, like a single black pixel.) Then, copy that file to the printer port from you freebsd machine. It should print just the same as from the pc. Please forgive me if this is all common knowledge and I have misunderstood the problem. Jim ========================================================= Jim Freeze jim@freeze.org --------------------------------------------------------- No comment at this time. http://www.freeze.org ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11: 0:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rush.telenordia.se (mail.telenordia.se [194.213.64.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02FC537B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.rowlands@minmail.net) Received: (qmail 10063 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 20:00:11 +0200 Received: from bb-62-5-36-29.bb.tninet.se (HELO pcmarpxy.tninet.se) (62.5.36.29) by mail.telenordia.se with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 20:00:11 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Mark Rowlands To: Subject: Re: Your Mascot Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:00:09 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081220000901.63621@pcmarpxy.tninet.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 12 August 2001 16:51, Greg McPherran wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for > FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise you to use a different > mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. Also, you could > spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract people to > FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, it's not just the quality of the > product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in many > ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much > better? > > Thank You, > Greg McPherran TROLL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11: 2: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from clientmail.realtime.co.uk (simian.ehsrealtime.com [213.52.146.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB7C37B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@penguinpowered.org.uk) Received: from madadmin.demon.co.uk ([193.237.103.251] helo=marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk) by clientmail.realtime.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15VzYe-0004A6-01; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:01:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.10.11] (helo=pan.realtime.co.uk) by marvin.penguinpowered.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15VzTI-0001qf-00; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:56:20 +0100 Received: from waynep by pan.realtime.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15VzXo-0005aJ-00; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:01:00 +0100 From: Wayne Pascoe To: "Jae Carlson" Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Rebooting References: <004501c12352$5ca93cd0$010aa8c0@enkil> Reply-To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Date: 12 Aug 2001 19:01:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <004501c12352$5ca93cd0$010aa8c0@enkil> Message-ID: <864rrdf99f.fsf@pan.home.penguinpowered.org.uk> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jae Carlson" writes: > Greetings, > I am wondering why my FreeBSD box keeps rebooting like every 12 hours or so. > It is annoying any and all help appreciated. Is there always a certain process running just before the reboot? Is anything appearing in /var/log/messages around the time of the reboot. Also, does it do a proper reboot (unmount all filesystems, etc) or does the machine just reset ? If you have a machine that allows you to check processor and system temperature in the bios I would suggest that you look at these temperatures just after a reboot. Hope some of that helps :) -- - Wayne Pascoe E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11:24:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7552C37B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mav@wastegate.net) Received: (qmail 27583 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 18:26:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mother) (209.166.136.178) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 18:26:04 -0000 From: "Doug Reynolds" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" , "Greg McPherran" Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:22:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Doug Reynolds" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.2222) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Your Mascot Message-Id: <20010812182448.7552C37B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:51:25 -0400, Greg McPherran wrote: >I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. >I advise you to use a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. Also, you could spif >up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract people to FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, >it's not just the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in many ways. >Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much better? mainly because freebsd is not going for mass appeal. just imagine how bogged this mailing list would be if every aol & yahoo mother got on and asked why windows disappear or asked what boot floppies were. also because freebsd is server software and most sysadmins are either aware of most OS and have a personal perferance, or run winNT because they are too dumb to figure it sucks or their company insists they run it. that and what so wrong with chucky? --- doug reynolds | the maverick | mav@wastegate.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11:30:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FDC37B40B for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@inebraska.com) Received: from darkride (lin-dsl-dynamic-206-222-211-059.inetnebr.com [206.222.211.59]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7CIUWo12856 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gary by darkride with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15VzzF-0000KS-00 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:29:21 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:29:21 -0500 From: "Gary L. Dolan" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your Mascot Message-ID: <20010812132921.A976@inebraska.com> Reply-To: fred1@inebraska.com References: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001b01c1233e$46397640$6501a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:51:25AM -0400, Greg McPherran wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Greg McPherran. I am a software engineer - 17 years. I'm all for FreeBSD and am considering installing it. I advise you to use a different mascot besides the little daemon. It's not good marketing. Also, you could spif up your web site and really make it fancy. This will attract people to FreeBSD. As Microsoft knows very well, it's not just the quality of the product - it's the presentation. FreeBSD is far superior to Windows in many ways. Why not get the attention you deserve by marketing yourselves much better? > As much as I like FreeBSD, I might have to switch if we got rid of the daemon. I like it so much it's on my startup screen. I even like it better than tux, and I like tux a lot. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.4.8 FreeBSD 4.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from p1.cs.ohiou.edu (p1.cs.ohiou.edu [132.235.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13D137B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frussell@p1.cs.ohiou.edu) Received: from localhost (frussell@localhost) by p1.cs.ohiou.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA03056; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Russell Francis X-Sender: frussell@p1 To: "G. Jason Middleton" Cc: Questions list Subject: Re: saving files with netscape (permission denied) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, G. Jason Middleton wrote: > ok so i can save then to a folder in my home directory just not to the > root of my hmoe directory. and yes i was wrong i am trying to save it in > /home/username.....so that is the correct way to save it....unless i want > to say it to a folder (which i did) in my hmoe directory..so..wonder what > it could be? > > Jasoin You are still having this problem?? If so, I suggest reading the section of the Handbook on permissions Chapter 3 section 2 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/permissions.html using this and the programs ls, chmod, chown and chgrp you should be able to track down and fix the permissions within your home directory. you should also try the command #man hier which will give you an idea of the directory structure of your system. Cheers, Russ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 11:38:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jezebel.demon.co.uk (jezebel.demon.co.uk [158.152.38.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDD837B40E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdls@jezebel.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rdls@localhost) by jezebel.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f7CIYIg00779; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:34:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rdls) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:34:18 +0100 From: Richard Smith To: George Genovezos Cc: dkelly@hiwaay.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw & firewall. Message-ID: <20010812193418.A744@gaia.home.rdls.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ggenovez@hotmail.com on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 10:54:33PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 10:54:33PM +0000, George Genovezos wrote: > Yeah I tought of this. > > I changed the PermitRootLogin yes > and I added root in sshd_config under AllowUsers OK, I've had another look, and the only way I can get the same debug trail as you is by setting: PasswordAuthentication no in sshd_config. -- Richard Smith Network Systems Director Satamatics Ltd Green Lane, Tewkesbury, GL20 8HD, United Kingdom Tel: +44 1684 278610 Fax: +44 1684 278611 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12: 8:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.Carolina.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5FE37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jconner@enterit.com) Received: from snafu.enterit.com ([66.57.159.198]) by Mail6.Carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:08:16 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010812151835.0572ee98@mail.enterit.com> X-Sender: jconner@enterit.com@mail.enterit.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:30:57 -0400 To: Mike Meyer From: Jim Conner Subject: Re: Filesystem filling up, how do I locate the large files? Cc: Joey Garcia , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15222.23256.445602.238142@guru.mired.org> References: <106282575@toto.iv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:30 AM 08.12.2001 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: >Joey Garcia types: > > Okay, I hope the subject made sense. Basically, my /usr is filing up and > > I wanted to located the large files or larger directories that are filling > > up the partition. I read somehwere in some FAQ or something that the > > command is something like this: du (some options) | sort (some more > > options) but I'm not sure exactly about what options to use. I have a > > feeling that I read this somwhere on one of the documentation found at > > freebsd.org but I just can't seem to find it again. Any pointers to that > > doucmentation would be awesome. I know I read it somewhere... > >How about the du and sort man pages? The options are all documented >there, which should be enough to figure out what you want. > >Hint: you want the size of all files on /usr and not other file >systems mounted on /usr, sorted numerically, and probably largest >values first. Another very helpful command is find. You could try something like: find /usr -xdev -size +1000000c -ls -type f This will tell you ever file on the filesystem /usr that is larger than one million bytes or 1 Mb and the file is a regular file. It will ls (list using similar to the -al options) the files it finds. From there you can even change the find command to do other things. man find(1). Excellent command! The du -h /fs | sort -rn is good too but it will take a long time and you have to make sure that you either send the output to a file. > -- >Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ >Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message - Jim -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=67861&lastnode_id=67861 -----BEGIN PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK----- ------BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK------ Version: 0.01 Version: 3.12 P++>*@$c?P6?R+++>++++@$M GIT/CM/J d++(--) s++:++ a- >++++$O!MA->++++E!> PU-->+++BD C++++(+) UB++++$L++++$S++++$ $C-@D!>++++(-)$S++++@$X?WP+>++++MO!>+++ P++(+)>+++++ L+++(++++)>+++++$ !E* +PP+++>++++n-CO?PO!o >++++G W++(+++) N+ o !K w--- PS---(-)@ PE >*(!)$A-->++++@$Ee---(-)Ev++uL++>*@$uB+ Y+>+++ PGP t+(+++)>+++@ 5- X++ R@ >*@$uS+>*@$uH+uo+w-@$m! tv+ b? DI-(+++) D+++(++) G(++++) ------END PERL GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from web13202.mail.yahoo.com (web13202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05FD937B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejcerejo@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010812191644.20000.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.255.94.83] by web13202.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:44 PDT Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "E. J. Cerejo" Subject: Help with blackbox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got some apps that I'd like to start automatically whenever I startx, I tried to put them in ~/.xinitrc but they won't start that way. Is there a way to make them start with startx. My window manager is blackbox. Thanks E. J. C. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:22:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from tao.agoron.com (tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 526D437B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@agoron.com) Received: from quasi (quasi.shredco.com [206.181.233.73]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07294; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:22:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marius Kirschner" To: "Dave" , Subject: RE: mail server question Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:22:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Indeed, this is not the solution to my problem, however, this is exactly what I was looking for for another upcoming project. Thanks a bunch, Dave. I do have a question though, since so many programs (15) are involved it getting this up and running isn't it an administrative hassle to maintain it? It seems like a lots of work just for virtual mail hosting. ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:45 PM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: mail server question > > > While this is not an asnwer to your sendmail dilema... would > suggest a far more > usable mail solution for virtual hosting. > > take a look at http://matt.simerson.net/computing/qmail.toaster.shtml > > has everything including virtual domain, web adminsitration, webmail the > works... if you are familiar with directory structure, config > editing, and > apache you can easily modify this so each virtual domain uses > thier own mail > admin and webmail services... Havn't looked back at sendmail since. > > Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:33:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp2fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F4937B403 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:33:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jslivko@blinx.net) Received: from hercules ([24.168.44.136]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:33:23 -0400 From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Marius Kirschner" , "Dave" , Subject: RE: mail server question Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:34:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not just use vpopmail and squirrelmail? They're pretty easy to set up, etc. -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Blinx Networks, Inc. http://www.blinx.net/ "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Marius Kirschner Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:22 PM To: Dave; questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: mail server question Indeed, this is not the solution to my problem, however, this is exactly what I was looking for for another upcoming project. Thanks a bunch, Dave. I do have a question though, since so many programs (15) are involved it getting this up and running isn't it an administrative hassle to maintain it? It seems like a lots of work just for virtual mail hosting. ---Marius > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:45 PM > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: mail server question > > > While this is not an asnwer to your sendmail dilema... would > suggest a far more > usable mail solution for virtual hosting. > > take a look at http://matt.simerson.net/computing/qmail.toaster.shtml > > has everything including virtual domain, web adminsitration, webmail the > works... if you are familiar with directory structure, config > editing, and > apache you can easily modify this so each virtual domain uses > thier own mail > admin and webmail services... Havn't looked back at sendmail since. > > Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC58E37B406 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.2]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812193342.JTX8490.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:33:42 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9390B50D0F; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:33:35 -0400 From: parv To: "E. J. Cerejo" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help with blackbox Message-ID: <20010812153335.A13599@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: "E. J. Cerejo" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20010812191644.20000.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010812191644.20000.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com>; from ejcerejo@yahoo.com on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 12:16:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG problem is not w/ blackbox, but w/ cliens that don't start, as stated; please title messages accordingly. this was, on the fateful occasion around Aug 12 15:16 -0400, sent by E. J. Cerejo > > I've got some apps that I'd like to start > automatically whenever I startx, I tried to put them > in ~/.xinitrc but they won't start that way. Is there > a way to make them start with startx. My window > manager is blackbox. it would been helpful if we could see a sample of offending clients as written in your .xinitrc... and, any error messages that would appear either on console or in X error log, say /var/log/Xree86.0.log. until then, see startx(1) and xinit(1). -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:37:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.anchoragerescue.org (cable-115-7-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.7.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B9437B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akbeech@anchoragerescue.org) Received: from galaxy.anchoragerescue.org (galaxy.anchoragerescue.org [24.237.7.95]) by nebula.anchoragerescue.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E40DB; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:37:39 -0800 (AKDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dev-null@no-id.com Subject: Re: Netscape Browser [RANT] Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:37:39 -0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20010812125914.41711.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> In-Reply-To: <20010812125914.41711.qmail@propane.zoomph.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081211373900.00680@galaxy.anchoragerescue.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 12 August 2001 04:59 am, dev-null@no-id.com wrote: > That's because the original post from the original author mentioned > how he was having problems with Yahoo! Chat locking up on him. For the > uninitiated (which you seem to be one of, my friend, again used loosely), > it is a Java based multi-user chat program. And I agree with the person > that said that if you want to chat to use IRC. Why? How many RFCs are > involved in the design/use of IRC? Compared to how many involved with the > use/design of a Java based chatting solution? > ===== > > Hello? I was the original author. I know what > Yahoo! Chat is. I gave it as an example of > an applet that triggers a problem inherent > in Netscape itself. How did suggesting to > use IRC over Yahoo help the discussion > related to web browser problems? Answer: > it didn't because it was an intentional > smartass comment. > > Now where the hell does your IRC RFC question > come into a discussion about web browsers? > I'm not doing a "Yahoo! Chat vs. IRC" thread. > What will you suggest next? Comparing apples > to oranges? > Get the chip off your shoulder! I suggested IRC as an alternative to java chat because java chat is notorious for crashing ANY browser. Netscape (like any other browser) does some things very well, java just doesn't happen to be one of them. Rather than trashing the whole program, just find alternatives for the features that dont do well. Better yet, why don't you put your time into fixing some of these problems. I'm sure most of us would use your solution if it improved the functionality of a program like netscape. Beech ------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - IT Manager - Instructor - akbeech@anchoragerescue.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Anchorage Gospel Rescue Mission \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | P.O. Box 230510 X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Anchorage, AK 99523-0510 / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:49: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1613637B412 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alfatrion@cybertron.tmfweb.nl) Received: from cybertron ([213.10.151.186]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GHZ0DN03.B48; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:48:59 +0200 Message-ID: <023a01c12367$ca932890$231fa8c0@kruijff> From: "Alfatrion" To: Cc: References: <004501c12352$5ca93cd0$010aa8c0@enkil> <864rrdf99f.fsf@pan.home.penguinpowered.org.uk> Subject: Re: Rebooting Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:48:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Jae Carlson" writes: > > > Greetings, > > I am wondering why my FreeBSD box keeps rebooting like every 12 hours or so. > > It is annoying any and all help appreciated. > > Is there always a certain process running just before the reboot? Is > anything appearing in /var/log/messages around the time of the reboot. > > Also, does it do a proper reboot (unmount all filesystems, etc) or > does the machine just reset ? > > If you have a machine that allows you to check processor and system > temperature in the bios I would suggest that you look at these > temperatures just after a reboot. > > Hope some of that helps :) > You can also use 'find' to see wich script have a shutdown command. Mayby one of these are causing it. (like one in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/) Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:49:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876737B401 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alfatrion@cybertron.tmfweb.nl) Received: from cybertron ([213.10.151.186]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id GHZ0DI03.B47; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:48:54 +0200 Message-ID: <023901c12367$c7941960$231fa8c0@kruijff> From: "Alfatrion" To: "Richard Smith" Cc: References: <20010810185605.7142.qmail@web11703.mail.yahoo.com> <20010811231559.C733@gaia.home.rdls.net> Subject: Re: ssh and background processes Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:47:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:56:05AM -0700, Tim Erlin wrote: > > Two questions: > > > > 1. I keep getting booted from SSH. On windows (putty), > > I get a 'host key check failed' error (or something > > similar. On Linux I get 'dispatch_protocol_error: > > rekeying is not supported.' The box I'm connecting to > > is FreeBSD -STABLE. Can I/Should I change this? > > I don't understand this. My ssh sessions stay up for ever, > admittedly they're FreeBSD -> FreeBSD :-) > > > > 2. The reason this is a problem is that I'm trying to > > update my sources, but the SSH terminal doesn't stay > > open long enough to complete 'make buildworld.' How do > > I send this process into the background so that I can > > logout and let it run? > > Depends on which shell you're using. The shell I use > (zsh) suspends the foreground process with a Ctrl-Z > then the 'bg' command moves it to the background. > You would need the 'disown' command to allow you to > log out. Of course, you could always start it off in > the background/disowned: > > # make buildworld >logfile 2&>1 &! > > Time to buy a good unix book I think ;-) > > > > > > TIA, as always... > > > > --Tim Erlin > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Richard Smith > Network Systems Director > Satamatics Ltd > Green Lane, Tewkesbury, GL20 8HD, United Kingdom > Tel: +44 1684 278610 > Fax: +44 1684 278611 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > First of all: I have no clue what to do! But you could try to update your machine and see if it still happens. I includes some of my script i use for this. I call update from my crontab. It will call 1) cvs and then 2) build. One this is complete you can run install from a single user mode. Afster each step it send a mail reporting it is done with that step. The mails are in dutch, but are summaries from the engles handbook. Alex It send mails after each ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="install.sh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="install.sh" logfile=3D/root/install.log=0A= errfile=3D/root/install.err=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= =0A= cd /usr/src=0A= make installkernel KERNCONF=3DKERNELFILE > $logfile 1> $errfile=0A= make installworld >> $logfile 1>> $errfile=0A= cp -Rp /etc /etc.old=0A= mergemaster -ai >> $logfile 1>> $errfile=0A= cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall=0A= make all install=0A= =0A= ( echo 'install cycle compleet op KERNELFILE'=0A= echo 'Zie de logfiles voor meer info'=0A= echo 'logfile: ' $logfile=0A= echo 'errfile: ' $errfile=0A= echo 'start: ' $date=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= echo 'stop: ' $date=0A= ) | mail -s 'build KERNELFILE' mail@adress.com=0A= reboot=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="cvs.sh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cvs.sh" #!/bin/sh=0A= =0A= cvs=3D"/home/alex/cvs/"=0A= logfile=3D"/root/cvs.log"=0A= errfile=3D"/root/cvs.err"=0A= supfile=3D"/root/supfile"=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= =0A= /usr/local/bin/cvsup /root/supfile > $logfile 2> $errfile=0A= =0A= ( echo 'cvs cycle compleet op KERNELFILE'=0A= echo 'Zie de logfiles voor meer info'=0A= echo 'logfile: ' $logfile=0A= echo 'errfile: ' $errfile=0A= echo 'start: ' $date=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= echo 'stop: ' $date=0A= ) | mail -s 'cvs KERNELFILE' mail@adress.com=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="build.sh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="build.sh" #!/bin/sh=0A= =0A= logfile=3D"/root/build.log"=0A= errfile=3D"/root/build.err"=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= =0A= cd /usr/src=0A= rm -rf /usr/obj/*=0A= make buildworld > $logfile 2> $errfile=0A= make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DKERNELFILE >> $logfile 2i>> $errfile=0A= =0A= ( echo 'build cycle compleet op KERNELFILE'=0A= echo 'Zie de logfiles voor meer info'=0A= echo 'logfile: ' $logfile=0A= echo 'errfile: ' $errfile=0A= echo 'start: ' $date=0A= date=3D`date +'%b %d %k:%M:%S'`=0A= echo 'stop: ' $date=0A= ) | mail -s 'build KERNELFILE' mail@adress.com=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="update.sh" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="update.sh" notefile=3D/root/install.note=0A= =0A= ( echo "Begin van FreeBSD update cycle op KERNELFILE"=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "Dit prosess bevat drie stappen. De eerst twee worden automaties"=0A= echo "uitgevoert. Hier na moet men de log files controleren. Daarna"=0A= echo "moet men met de hand zelf de laaste stap in single mode = uitvoeren."=0A= echo "Na iedere stap word er een email verstuurt aan jou. Stap drie = word"=0A= echo "terzijne tijd nog uitvoerig beschreven."=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "De stappen:"=0A= echo " 1. cvs"=0A= echo " 2. build"=0A= echo " 3. install (in single mode met de hand)"=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "Veel succes,"=0A= echo "Charlie Root"=0A= ) | mail -s 'update KERNELFILE' mail@adress.com=0A= =0A= /root/bin/cvs.sh=0A= /root/bin/build.sh=0A= =0A= ( echo "Laaste stap van de Begin van FreeBSD update cycle op = KERNELFILE"=0A= echo " 3. install"=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "Na dat men de logfiles heeft gecontroleer op controle, kan men = door"=0A= echo "gaan met deze stap. Indien men dit nog nooit gedaan heeft doet = men"=0A= echo "er goed aan om de volgende pagina te bekijken uit het handboek = van"=0A= echo "FreeBSD: = http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html"=0A= echo "De stappen die in dit emailtje beschreven staan worden daar"=0A= echo "uitvoerig uitgelecht."=0A= echo ""=0A= echo " 1. (20.4.1) Lees /usr/src/UPDATING"=0A= echo " 2. (20.4.2) Controleer de bestanden /etc/defaults/make.conf en = /etc/make.conf."=0A= echo " 3. (20.4.3) Update de file /etc/group"=0A= echo " 4. (20.4.4) Ga de single mode in door het commando 'shutdown = now' uit tevoeren."=0A= echo " 5. Voer de shell install.sh uit. Midden in dit process is uw = aandacht nodig."=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "Groetjes,"=0A= echo "Charlie Root"=0A= echo ""=0A= echo "P.S. Dit bericht staat ook " $notefile " hier."=0A= ) > $notefile=0A= =0A= mail -s 'update KERNELFILE' mail@adress.com < $notefile=0A= cat $nodefile=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_0224_01C12378.6D5B6B40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:52:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from jezebel.demon.co.uk (jezebel.demon.co.uk [158.152.38.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D735E37B408 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdls@jezebel.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rdls@localhost) by jezebel.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f7CJnF600987; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:49:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rdls) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:49:14 +0100 From: Richard Smith To: Matthew Sundling Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: security check output: questionable setuid diffs help? Message-ID: <20010812204914.C744@gaia.home.rdls.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sundlm@rpi.edu on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 11:15:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 11:15:49AM -0400, Matthew Sundling wrote: > I am new to the land of maintaining and securing my own unix-like > box, and so I have been presented with all the new problems > (interesting learning experiences?) that lie therein. > > FYI: my machine = FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #2: Fri Aug 3 19:32:28 > GMT 2001 > > I just started reading/following online security related websites > on how to secure my machine yesturday (before yesturday my > machine was running at securelevel=-1, with finger/telnet/ftp all > still active in the default manner), and curiously messages > appeared in my daily security check emails today (pasted below). > > Please note the change in time stamp. I would also point out the > fact that I started logging TCP/UDP connection attempts > yesturday, and it looked like several (~7) machines were port > scanning. Also, my ISP is a rather open cable modem network. > Also, I know little about true security and the art of detecting > breaches. And I have not done any recent make worlds or > installed any new system software since yesturday that would > cause these changes. I did remove all services from the inetd, > though... There is a lot of port scanning going on at the moment, best have a decent firewall configuration. > Also, the header of the daily security log included: > > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Is this normal? I ask because I have no 'original' logs to > compare the header against, so I can't tell if this is normal. I > Checked my crontab,/etc/periodic/* stuff and it _seems_ like root > is the only recipient, but I can't really tell. Just means that a `To' field was not written into the header, so the receiving MUA put that in instead. > Any suggestions? Has my machine been penetrated? Any advice? Disable everything you do not use. e.g. inetd, portmap, etc. > my.hostaddr.goes.here setuid diffs: [snip, millions of files exactly 4 hours time difference] Changed this machines time zone recently ? -- Richard Smith Network Systems Director Satamatics Ltd Green Lane, Tewkesbury, GL20 8HD, United Kingdom Tel: +44 1684 278610 Fax: +44 1684 278611 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 12:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35CB37B403; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEE41CC3017E; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3B76DEE2.3083C3FC@urx.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:10 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Owen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Just a server... References: <000a01c12365$f6abae40$25b54d18@ok.shawcable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Owen wrote: > > Hello, > First off, I think FreeBSD is great, and free OSs are one of the only > good things left about computers... > My question is simple, I've installed FreeBSD 4 or 5 times, each time > it does not go into the graphical interface that I chose. This is > fine, but I just need to know what I should do to run/configure the > apache server which is all I intend the computer to run for. Can I run > it from this normal text boot? This is the wrong place to ask such questions. I am copying it to freebsd-questions and bccing docs so that replies go to questions. You probably need to do a startx. For example, I use kde-2 and I have an .xinitrc that looks like the following coral# m .xinitrc exec startkde When I type startx, it invokes kde-2 for my desktop. Kent > Thank you very much > Owen -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Cool site http://www.bmwfilms.com mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 13:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailin3.email.bigpond.com (juicer24.bigpond.com [139.134.6.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D2E37B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyho@bigpond.net.au) Received: from oem ([144.135.24.78]) by mailin3.email.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHS31G00.H2B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:03:16 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-118-167.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.118.167]) by bwmam04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 8329/11016458); 09 Aug 2001 12:03:16 Message-ID: <001d01c12076$67919b30$c701a8c0@oem> From: "Danny" To: Subject: Disabiling telnetd and ftp Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:55:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -Hello - I am trying ito "secure" my FreeBSD firewall. NAT - so I wanted to disable telnet and ftp access to my FreeBSD NAT - so I can only access FreeBSD using the console. - What exactly do I do to disable telnet access and ftp access? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 12 13:27:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from yoda.bmi.net (yoda.bmi.net [204.57.191.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC8437B409 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by yoda.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19015; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:54:10 -0700 Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by johncoop.MSHOME (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7CKRRG96871; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:27:27 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Jim Freeze Cc: Mike Meyer , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What is the magical incantation necessary to print to /dev/ulpt0 Message-ID: <20010812132727.C59678@johncoop> References: <20010812095648.Q477@johncoop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from jim@freeze.org on Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 10:36:32 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.7 Lines: 61 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.08.12 10:36 Jim Freeze wrote: > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > > On 2001.08.12 06:26 Mike Meyer wrote: > > > John Merryweather Cooper types: > > > > > > LexMark tends to make cheap winprinters. That lexmark claims the z51 > > > works on "DOS through Windows" instead of "DOS" makes me think you > > > have one. If so, the only hope for making it work is to find a > > > ghostscript driver for your printer. > > > > The lexmark printer works through DOS because it has a DOS printer > driver. > The lexmark consumer inkjet printers have a propietary file format. > They do not understand postscript or pcl. Essentially, the data > must be rasterized into cmyk binary data before it is sent to the > printer. > Last time I looked there were about five different drivers that > worked with ghostscript. These drivers reverse engineered the printhead > and converted RGB data from ghostscript into the propietary lexmark cmyk > binary format. > Actually, for the Z51 that assertion is false. It emulates an HP 500C quite nicely. > Lexmark also recently released a linux driver. I have not heard if anyone > has got this to work with freebsd. > > If you want to test if your printer is getting data, do a print to file > on a windows machine (something small,