From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 6 06:29:13 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1F6FCE124; Sun, 6 May 2018 06:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell1.rawbw.com (shell1.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68C979F87; Sun, 6 May 2018 06:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from yv.noip.me (c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id w466TA1n058731 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 5 May 2018 23:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132] claimed to be yv.noip.me Subject: Re: Hydraulic simulation software To: blubee blubeeme , FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD References: From: Yuri Message-ID: <4b2f574f-9e87-3789-b630-6500f3bf32c8@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2018 23:29:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 06:29:13 -0000 On 05/04/18 19:03, blubee blubeeme wrote: > Are there any hydraulic simulation software in the FreeBSD ecosystem? Please provide examples of projects that you have in mind. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 6 09:22:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387ADFB429D for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 09:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com (mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com [17.120.80.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A663D80621 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 09:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com by mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0P8A00O00V8OZQ00@mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 May 2018 09:22:29 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1525598549; bh=/H+dBljk3K/7MIHnpe+e3OhvrNqp1ME6jPJYGzW5iJ0=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Date:Subject:Message-id:To; b=T4JqLlDNBHpuh3idbZ9yqKpKuPAtrH8gK6RTxSdlH/EFufNomChdEH0hCVZCj13N/ 8zINp1ZJskgL1DNXc76dWtCAiARFVw1KfYa1SWX7Om29xISSPPG5jv+Z9FIFFnzZE8 ylbhThEw6v07iZXzzJaRyeOdKkQtt2Qjq1PGEB14srVgjBysgM/AxxRb9IOdZ96oYq gpdSOtaQi3cFUl34WOp8fnX77Sfb/Yn0PDcNWAGg0P6szGc2RFRCUD1Q5pfzVkXF+m 6+hU1c476Q3SooM+Rworpa93RKUyAKXxZXxFRUQfIAsQgCOfDlTbKTP8pCOPPet6Hd aM9YECxXgbSRA== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P8A001OEVD9RZ20@mr29p60im-ztfb07101501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 06 May 2018 09:22:29 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-05-06_03:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1805060097 From: =?utf-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-04467C92-341E-410D-9C3D-39F939764C7D Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 17:22:20 +0800 Subject: How to hide the boot verbose Message-id: To: freebsd X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E302) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 09:22:31 -0000 --Apple-Mail-04467C92-341E-410D-9C3D-39F939764C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible that the boot verbose is not displayed at all ? Only show whe= n some error happen. Most of time there is no boot error occured, we no need to care the boot mes= sage. I try create a file /boot.config with content "-mq" add below lines verbose_loading=3D"NO" boot_mute=3D"YES" in file /boot/loader.conf but below verbose still show , is there a way to hide that ? thanks --Apple-Mail-04467C92-341E-410D-9C3D-39F939764C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-04467C92-341E-410D-9C3D-39F939764C7D-- From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 6 14:48:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF9FBBC7B for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18D468BB8 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 8194AFBBC79; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3D5FBBC78 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x22d.google.com (mail-wr0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C79A268BB7 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hruodr@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id g21-v6so25407261wrb.8 for ; Sun, 06 May 2018 07:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version; bh=57XPjNYO/J/lg3A6CFVoVpifTcFk5+IXvTtp5Uwa+B0=; b=JdJg2hIJCaj7gtO9FOED6A0yO519+Y1riQtjUYRlqVflWgLAQZBfXcF2bV6RfvdrX/ W8xcG7nIayueS0KdfbrxXrnz/zQqiNQSFUt5BVloNLr6ApekT7Qg1UnJ4rZGI3eVXWSf QVredxxVZCS4k7i5mB7sLTpUPO6ihiaJ6y3wdY177MFxyGwpZRljhHCOgqfQUgTMeTK9 7RrhKykZyp6SdqMnyBfljMl9BduXk76HxHvpuwVMqkoJZ6r/u9ClQCvN0/gJpcr3leUq 0mwD2l28WOp51WJWl41x584SAj0VIx/OdJ87vDmK/Q0g1bXVoHb35NAEr5TVbuuVeGZu iJuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=57XPjNYO/J/lg3A6CFVoVpifTcFk5+IXvTtp5Uwa+B0=; b=oioEEqa+FFrdLpWZX1ezFAFX3NpwKxgI2ajshGC8eIXs0yZJdhZSrp31TPaCi8vyeE UasYPZu8sN3XvtUiqFOz+aOMSNLhZvxhmgN5JrrdKF3cVql9wqjzReeL4pCNehzBl05W cJlCxhWKO6v25wuYRbprnw2Ew3DiuztPEgB27V8Eqq2dQemqQMXMv/xYlTA40jOKUFEK dBBWhgIqRT1nUr/5yIC4e0FeN7i1Oze2Bt24s9AEYAJ+amrrDPsspJ/O19lwTz8hAIyr YfUSt5+EQYdw3mXXaGfSbp65utKcOp4iRtM7n+GWQeF8SUDUsj8UiMH6dPbad3EEJisZ a6/w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tAET6G8fZEB7DqX55FbNYpGI+Cj9120pcYxfy0z4GqfrOOgDba1 LT9b/MhnKQx95nfi/I7MZc20nw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpoK2ab3/Pl2V+Z6qlb7FRD8R8kubMU73C6pOxbeExZEgsRCVCPwKlXELtis94C8VnCosY+hQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:bd01:: with SMTP id j1-v6mr28128289wrh.69.1525618123730; Sun, 06 May 2018 07:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd.fritz.box (mue-88-130-49-182.dsl.tropolys.de. [88.130.49.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y81sm7927772wmd.31.2018.05.06.07.48.41 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 May 2018 07:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 14:48:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Roderick To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Looking for wiki software In-Reply-To: <56589.177.237.78.100.1525550465.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: References: <576B9BAE27C0E4EC5E3A1309@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <56589.177.237.78.100.1525550465.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.999 (BSF 260 2018-02-26) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 14:48:47 -0000 On Sat, 5 May 2018, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> I have a reasonably decent machine on which to run this, but still it >>> would be nice if the solution were, for example, not too heavy on the >>> build- and run-dependencies. >>> >>> Other nice-to-haves: >>> >>> . Easy user management, ideally with self-signup >>> . Use with http server of my choice, i.e. server-agnostic >>> . TLS supported > > I strongly disagree. Mediawiki is quite simple to set up, web based script > does all for you. I think, it cannot be simpler than fossil. It is very easy to build. It is just one executable. And the repository with the wiki is also a file that as such can be moved, renamed, installed on other computer without problem. See: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/trunk/www/quickstart.wiki From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 6 18:51:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9FCFC2B74 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B5B7F5FA for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E73F8FC2B73; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94B8FC2B72 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063D67F5F7 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E4A625A2; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:51:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HLQmIjST_PAU; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D627261EA8; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2018 14:51:12 -0400 Message-ID: <6c42c7d5c841d1bf1a74383143bf5c70.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 14:51:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Looking for wiki software From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Chris Hill" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions List" Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 18:51:24 -0000 On Sat, May 5, 2018 06:53, Chris Hill wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm looking for advice and opinions on wiki software. This > would be for use by a small business group, probably not > more than 25 or so users in total. The idea is that each > user would contribute material on subjects in which he is > "expert." Eventually we end up with solid documentation > of our processes and our homegrown software, and then things > don't go to hell as much the next time someone is nearly > killed in an accident. > > I have a reasonably decent machine on which to run this, > but still it would be nice if the solution were, for example, > not too heavy on the build- and run-dependencies. > > Other nice-to-haves: > > . Easy user management, ideally with self-signup > . Use with http server of my choice, i.e. server-agnostic > . TLS supported > > I'd be grateful for any suggestions, or for stories of good or bad > experiences. > We use Redmine project administration software for this sort of thing. It is packaged for FreeBSD and available through ports. It has a large number of features that you can safely ignore; unless and until you need them. The authentication/ authorisation mechanisms are well integrated and easy to use; and to understand. Redmine requires an SQL back-end. The 'default' back-end is MySQL / MariaDB. PostgreSQL is also available. We have been using Redmine and Git since we moved off TRAC and Subversion back in 2006. We use Redmine for the company administrative wiki, programmer day books, computer system operations scheduling, issue tracking, work requests, documentation, time tracking, project management, and many other things. You can have multiple independent projects/wikis, or dependent sub-projects. Each user can have different roles assigned in different projects. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Thread-Topic: Is It Possible To Use Azure Backup With 11.1 Image? Thread-Index: AdPlcgko93a/T00WQjG/K81g5XPRMA== Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 19:41:05 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:3F9AFC630ECEE37D6E189A394042180BF814872E8C5157AB8EA771C04EFC40EC; UpperCasedChecksum:53CF6DF53DB98580BAC1A3305A118BA809125EA244CF92A7B403140FEAB7B76B; SizeAsReceived:6835; Count:43 x-tmn: [htI4uMD7yikaR/rS4JzT+VgD4NdElTvw] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1NAM02HT061; 7:/3hOojQNawBFpLweYQVIXDzHntf0MluOMKLArzdTu2h0Bvr0V6NYUdRf0/ffNulsbHAmlv86ip/EDi9hXCmbi92OkgKGT92hoa0YeJF8dTKTmQQ78IMWFym3h7Q9rTO4Mh8qRYcgjWBRYxjXSOMtmDo48JGgx6qz+bCOcWTxUUOYpDBL3xpRRlINsw7wWG3BQ04i7LleWWh8UaYepHAm9zZNk/9V0NlSyI/7U5vG73gAQQA0SRPNq9jS9cAyCpGi x-incomingheadercount: 43 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(201702061078)(5061506573)(5061507331)(1603103135)(2017031320274)(2017031324274)(2017031323274)(2017031322404)(1603101448)(1601125374)(1701031045); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT061; x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: CY1NAM02HT061: x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(444000031); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT061; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT061; x-forefront-prvs: 06640999CA x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(7070007)(98901004); DIR:OUT; SFP:1901; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT061; H:MW2PR20MB2188.namprd20.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: c1rjQzxIXxETahELftNhYtxt5jcT51Hi0bqvQESxkqHhhIFBkHqrsUsK91y5h1wDVLzE/wArisoHS8RTdBYpA59ZUcVA100OeVyUgCuPSzJP30xNiafTnnnyDC5ov61+SF8ctzF+r3foLgMFbDSNcZY9/jEH6lk7gBQSj9edjLLj5pMViMWcrHxK7Fg00pYM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 79d54c71-445b-432f-8a7d-08d5b3894f12 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: b6587b75-6f1a-4db7-b0b6-5cad10ef59a7 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 79d54c71-445b-432f-8a7d-08d5b3894f12 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: b6587b75-6f1a-4db7-b0b6-5cad10ef59a7 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 06 May 2018 19:41:06.0987 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1NAM02HT061 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 19:41:10 -0000 I originally posted the below message in cloud@ but that list seems pretty = quiet. So I was wondering if anyone here can help? I'm experimenting with Azure and have built a box with the 11.1 image from = the marketplace.=A0 I've tried to enable azure backup.=A0 I can start the b= ackup via the Azure portal but it fails consistently at 5:06 minutes.=A0 I = assume this is because the timeout in the waagent.conf file is 5 min by def= ault.=A0 The error is about not being able to communicate with the VM agent= for snapshot status.=A0 I do have the azure-agent port installed.=A0 The s= ervice is running.=A0 And for testing, I even have an outbound "allow from = any to any" rule in my network security group attached to the VM's interfac= e. I opened a MS support case but the engineer is trying to tell me that "this= version of Linux does not support backup".=A0 Well being as he doesn't eve= n seem to understand that FBSD isn't Linux AND combined with the fact that = I can see what appears to be snapshot activity in the waagent.log file, I d= on't believe this is the case. Any clues as to where I should look next?=A0 I've included some waagent.log= entries below. Thanks for your help, Drew Like card tricks? 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Sun, 6 May 2018 18:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atomizer.fios-router.home (pool-74-111-167-196.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [74.111.167.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g16.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6ECDC5D56 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 18:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 18:28:33 -0400 From: Rod Person To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Hosed QT install Message-ID: <20180506182833.1987b2dd@atomizer.fios-router.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 22:28:43 -0000 I'm getting this error with various QT apps (VirutalBox, qutebrowser and others). I appear to have an older version of some qt library but I not idea which. I tried reinstalling all QT but that didn't help. Anyone ever run into this and have a way to find the bad lib or any idea how to correct it? Qt WARNING: QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-roddierod' Qt FATAL: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x50904) with this library (version 0x50903) Abort trap -- Rod http://www.rodperson.com You can never get enough of what you don't need. -- David Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun May 6 22:47:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C296FC986C for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:47:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CE2726AC for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 70A8BFC986B; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E358FC986A for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:47:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: from mail-qt0-x236.google.com (mail-qt0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8114726A8 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 22:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markmoellering@psyberation.com) Received: by mail-qt0-x236.google.com with SMTP id m5-v6so34037579qti.1 for ; Sun, 06 May 2018 15:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psyberation-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hHvgwckith+DEUi/h6mxE+V+kPgeS6rjcxbNGurDKlU=; b=id79LVlIziBNseDBBzCoefEpjJZUVbH3XrtJiW8SP2k6OTDRyO0c8w4I7BM8WZjDLX eOxwNvUr8sVhD6YjfoR6EZQbQV+SpJKPv3QgFr29GZoCx3HhpsX0FEiQwe/asWxi06xx HOD6OiOPbncxDoRUijWglt2b7xs5tJuQXbWRfLJGMNjNqfCkvAy9IFYEAr9GEl1J/gRi KIYFdlZxU3AJmWu8FPXvKwW/+lYKiA+TXKVZ/Wrs1dQBn/VjOE9+hsHTIjU/+81WWw1i zhgiPKeQPrjZuwX2/j0fRQvT0zRnqltSxlVgFeboOzuPIsfz7AHjTn/8HONv/qkLln9i 1DOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hHvgwckith+DEUi/h6mxE+V+kPgeS6rjcxbNGurDKlU=; b=dSnl+6h6r5RFlIm+Y8b9v9LlxHO6DQ82kDgiRHQkk1OclIJeso4qWgoQ0GvH/pQE4i AMOnDaHZnauTM+bPllNtdiDcchkrS8CI+hO8aaawjDrIQOyKEO8KI1FYeufX4Dig1CAB 58nXaKpylIyiqLd8wvOew9dfKrhjhrKi3Yox67Tqhl2yk4hFGrLZAx5DR+HJRpmPTJ3+ M40goiDoXyp3xE01W2p+zEa1yXmrUBWq73tXsKrspxdpM2xD2/tcUlkeY/7P803FrsJi Ynwg2eUvDV57LH19kPovIQloMmNTPR1mGLOm7M3/TGhStR9Z6xWbp6pVYUcA0BfUriWQ phVg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBncnTCh9bfhW6rQl3wy9sK9xW7KEaiSOJdSa1QgoPhCGfmAJ6n 1v8fQgUDBs13Ad8fiN3Fk+P9j9O6t/rEe4oScQMgDA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZr9clVCj38wxvRlIx+DIiV65OkJLw+XPtfXu6fH/vJO2pcOxYQzrc10cvZu5QJcJRxUmc8K3J7V1IdasmgXamo= X-Received: by 2002:aed:2805:: with SMTP id r5-v6mr32273546qtd.28.1525646848251; Sun, 06 May 2018 15:47:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.25.168 with HTTP; Sun, 6 May 2018 15:47:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180506182833.1987b2dd@atomizer.fios-router.home> References: <20180506182833.1987b2dd@atomizer.fios-router.home> From: Mark Moellering Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 18:47:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hosed QT install To: Rod Person Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 22:47:30 -0000 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 6:28 PM, Rod Person wrote: > I'm getting this error with various QT apps (VirutalBox, > qutebrowser and others). I appear to have an older version of some qt > library but I not idea which. I tried reinstalling all QT but that > didn't help. Anyone ever run into this and have a way to find the bad > lib or any idea how to correct it? > > Qt WARNING: QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to > '/tmp/runtime-roddierod' > Qt FATAL: Cannot mix incompatible Qt library > (version 0x50904) with this library (version 0x50903) Abort trap > > > -- > Rod > > http://www.rodperson.com > > You can never get enough of what you don't need. > -- David Morgan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Wow, I literally just finished fixing this with Lumina I did a pkg info | more and noticed that, even though I upgraded the qt5 [meta] version, there are some qt5 libraries that do not, automatically, upgrade. I then did a manual pkg upgrade qt5-[package] I know i had to do dbus, x11extras, svg, and a number of others. I just kept at it, until they were all upgraded to the same release. For Lumina, specifically, I had to do a pkg delete of all of the packages for it (such as lumina-core, etc) I then did a pkg clean -a (not sure if that was necessary) and pkg install. Finally, it was back to normal. I hope this helps. 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[72.66.73.211]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m10sm18381427qkh.20.2018.05.06.18.53.44 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 May 2018 18:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Looking for wiki software To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: zep Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Message-ID: <829b109b-da58-96c3-59e2-74df74bef4db@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 21:53:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 01:53:48 -0000 On 05/05/2018 06:53 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm looking for advice and opinions on wiki software. This would be > for use by a small business group, probably not more than 25 or so > users in total. The idea is that each user would contribute material > on subjects in which he is "expert." Eventually we end up with solid > documentation of our processes and our homegrown software, and then > things don't go to hell as much the next time someone is nearly killed > in an accident. > > I have a reasonably decent machine on which to run this, but still it > would be nice if the solution were, for example, not too heavy on the > build- and run-dependencies. > > Other nice-to-haves: > >  . Easy user management, ideally with self-signup >  . Use with http server of my choice, i.e. server-agnostic >  . TLS supported > > I'd be grateful for any suggestions, or for stories of good or bad > experiences. > my choice for this is/would be dokuwiki - it's very light, there's no database or external things to go sideways, all your files are stored as plain text if something does go wildly sideways, it's just text.   should be very easy to recover/backup.   I've only ever tried to run it under apache, but it ... might?  work with other webservers, probably nginx fairly easily, maybe more.  I think the only thing it needs to run is ... maybe php and a 'user that httpd runs as writable filesystem'.  there are minimal bells/whistles to this, though.   user mgmt is basically .ht files. -- public gpg key id: 0x5B8147CB From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 7 04:18:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B12FCEC8D for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D672790 for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40006554; Mon, 07 May 2018 11:18:20 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w474IJeJ053948; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:18:20 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w474IFbN053942; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:18:15 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:18:15 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Carl Johnson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180507041815.GA53740@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180429140256.GA8201@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <042bf1a7-32fb-8bfa-16d1-9cbc54e19a61@zyxst.net> <20180503043605.GA49385@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <86sh78dqz6.fsf@elm.localnet> <20180504050409.GA3877@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <86muxfe7am.fsf@elm.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86muxfe7am.fsf@elm.localnet> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 04:18:25 -0000 Carl Johnson wrote: > >> > tech-lists wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > What alternative to x11/gnome3 can you advise? > >> >> > > >> >> > I would like a more lightweight desktop environment, however it MUST > >> >> > support switching between GUI users without logging out (like > >> >> > Ubuntu or Windows). > >> >> > > >> >> > I tried Mate but it does not seem to be able to switch between users > >> >> > without logging out (at least the display manager Mate comes with > >> >> > cannot do that). > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks in advance for any input. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I use xdm with xfce4 for this. > >> > > >> > Could you please tell more about it. What packages you had to install > >> > besides x11/xfce, how you configured xdm and xfce4 to support user > >> > switching, how you start xfce4. > >> > >> I haven't used it, but XFCE does have a 'switch user' button for the > >> panel. > > > > Yes, it does, but the button is grey and cannot be used. > > I said that I hadn't tried it, but I just tried it now and got the same > result as you. I did a web search and it appears that it requires gdm > for that button. Thanks for the news. It is bad news however, because gdm is part of x11/gnome3 which I want to get rid of. > You can try that, I'm using it currently. Seems like gdm is the only display manager which can do user switching. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 7 04:22:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669D1FCEEF8 for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7AC72B4D for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40006553; Mon, 07 May 2018 11:22:56 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w474MuWT054180; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:56 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w474MtTi054179; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:55 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:55 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: AikiZen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180507042255.GB53740@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180429140256.GA8201@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180505012642.6f351370@WorkMachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180505012642.6f351370@WorkMachine> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 04:22:58 -0000 AikiZen wrote: > > > > What alternative to x11/gnome3 can you advise? > > > > I would like a more lightweight desktop environment, however it MUST > > support switching between GUI users without logging out (like > > Ubuntu or Windows). > > > > I tried Mate but it does not seem to be able to switch between users > > without logging out (at least the display manager Mate comes with > > cannot do that). > > > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > > > hi victor, > > this day i think about code a new interface style, in front of vt, like > haiku or else. > this interface start at the boot time and is between tty and X11. > > for this need rewrite an gtk3 library or ncurses library, i don't know. The best thing about X11 is the fact that it is networked, you can have a single display (X-server) and several apps (called X-clients) running on different hosts but drawing on your display. Similar to published apps in Citrix, but you need no Citrix, actually not anything besides Xorg itself (all is built-in). The thing you suggest will be lacking this feature. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 7 15:07:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733B7FB42F7 for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 15:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B87D07C66E for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 15:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0586253D; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:07:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vywpxdiEVAcW; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A66066222A; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:07:41 -0400 Message-ID: <62301b19075fa23a046b91cb592020bd.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:07:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] Problem with folder display options in SM-1.4.23 on FreeBSD-11.1 From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ted Hatfield" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 15:07:47 -0000 On Fri, May 4, 2018 22:43, Ted Hatfield wrote: > James, > > I am also FreeBSD 11.2-prerelease with apache24 but using dovecot with > maildir format mailboxes. > > I don't see that there is any difference when I change the "Selection > List > Style" under folder options between > > Long "Folder.Subfolder" > Indented " Subfolder" > Delimited ".Subfolder" > > No matter which option I choose the right folder list looks the same. > > I would be glad to assist you in diagnosing the problem since I'm > running a similar system, but I'm not a squirrelmail expert by any > means. > Although I appreciate the offer to help I am not able to start threading through PHP code to solve this if it is a bug. I am asking on the SM users list and I have posted on StackOverflow. We will have to wait and see what turns up. Regards, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. 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Am I missing something? Is there any way I can register? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 8 01:10:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFCCFC407E for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 01:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (mail.irk.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37C7487610 for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 01:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID :Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=p4p2HMyhTiEs3CGS2V3W7WGm4QVtGbYA6OzIeXMkz/c=; b=RoPeacj8mbYylups4YmQYBLQps 8sm2ILgCYNJF8tQchD+zgwFiU5oZdny/87kVfhcTVA/Taf7fEiCave8DA5HJrUio0djF2Fz1ugXEz 0Fpi85jtbJp4/ZIPhn+xIlf1ERkISAyNRMjG2YNic/xNpXr9CknJM53JaxLZ45KLI2Ck=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fFr2p-00097V-3V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 09:03:55 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: thor Subject: Cannot operate some UTF-8 named files in Midnight Commander Message-ID: <45313128-7d67-7717-9a20-6904170d2903@irk.ru> Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 09:10:00 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 01:10:27 -0000 Hello! Being Russian, I have almost always used KOI-8R for 20 years now. But there are 2 problem that push me to migrate to UTF-8: 1) There is a problem with Kernel Mode Switch in some video cards, which still is not solved and requires me to either use VESA or NVidia, 2) There are lots of files in my torrent collection, and torrents use UTF-8. When I see the torrent collection in Midnight Commander in KOI-8 (No translation) there is lots of files with nonreadable names consisting of some Russian letters and pseudo-graphics and I can perform file operations on these files (copy, view etc). When I choose Menu - Right (or Left) - Encoding - UTF-8 the file name becomes readable. But then some of files and directories (not all) become: status (left column) = '?', size = 0, date = "Jan  1 1970" and no operations can be performed with these files and directories. Theoretically, I could copy the file somewhere and then rename it to Latin letters. But it's annoying and it also impossible to rename the files in active torrent collection. As I understand the valid file name is any string of non-NUL bytes ending with NUL while "/" is directory separator and any part between slashes is not more than 255 bytes long, and there is no such limitation as requirement that the file name is to be correctly coded in any existing codepage including UTF-8. Is there a method to operate in Midnight Commander any and all files while the encoding is set to UTF-8? Midnight Commander 4.8.19 thor@betula:~% uname -a FreeBSD betula 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan  4 18:12:07 +08 2018 root@betula:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/CAVIA  amd64 thor@betula:~% setenv ... LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.KOI8-R ... Thor From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 8 05:50:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4963FCF910 for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 05:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221066AFA7 for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 05:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40007322 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 08 May 2018 12:50:31 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w485oUfr009301 for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 12:50:31 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w485oRAi009297 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 8 May 2018 12:50:27 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 12:50:27 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: grub2, FreeBSD, GPT Message-ID: <20180508055027.GA8745@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 05:50:35 -0000 Dear Colleagues, Have you ever tried to boot FreeBSD from a GPT partition with grub2 (no UEFI)? In my test layout, /dev/ada0p1 is the freebsd-boot partition and /dev/ada0p2 is the freebsd-ufs partition. However grub2 says "invalid signature" about both of them: grub> set root=(hd0,gpt1) grub> chainloader +1 error: invalid signature grub> set root=(hd0,gpt2) grub> chainloader +1 error: invalid signature grub> -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 8 06:52:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE5BAFA919A for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 06:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BB977B6DD for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 06:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from localhost ([74.134.208.22]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id FwR3fPq2MDatMFwR5fDNJn; Tue, 08 May 2018 06:49:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 06:49:08 +0000 From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub2, FreeBSD, GPT References: <20180508055027.GA8745@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGfEH6iccS09170JudaJaSABTBVRehZrfUIeFP1PaaDHYQ96b1K9ojCUsicbKW80qEj/cJkhTl6fg5RJ89T3QopNywPM5n6JNvCQkokbys/l0bnOW9Vw 4/zCTO6BPood8Gig/xAVKjHC+j4atD9OM+oePFlmenCpOwOypnUBnOX2gCW7GeAhYG2UKS/7eh1SLA== X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 06:52:05 -0000 from Victor Sudakov: > Have you ever tried to boot FreeBSD from a GPT partition with grub2 (no UEFI)? > In my test layout, /dev/ada0p1 is the freebsd-boot partition and > /dev/ada0p2 is the freebsd-ufs partition. However grub2 says "invalid > signature" about both of them: > grub> set root=(hd0,gpt1) > grub> chainloader +1 > error: invalid signature > grub> set root=(hd0,gpt2) > grub> chainloader +1 > error: invalid signature > grub> I think I tried something like that, but it didn't work. What works, using the SystemRescue CD written to USB stick, is (type c to go to command line) set root=(hd1,gpt11) (or whatever the actual partition number is) kfreebsd /boot/loader boot Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 8 09:34:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A564FAF2B0 for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA227ACBC for ; Tue, 8 May 2018 09:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40007526; Tue, 08 May 2018 16:34:30 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w489YTDp021578; Tue, 8 May 2018 16:34:29 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w489YRxU021577; Tue, 8 May 2018 16:34:27 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 16:34:27 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: grub2, FreeBSD, GPT Message-ID: <20180508093427.GA21489@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180508055027.GA8745@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 09:34:33 -0000 Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > Have you ever tried to boot FreeBSD from a GPT partition with grub2 (no UEFI)? > > > In my test layout, /dev/ada0p1 is the freebsd-boot partition and > > /dev/ada0p2 is the freebsd-ufs partition. However grub2 says "invalid > > signature" about both of them: > > > grub> set root=(hd0,gpt1) > > grub> chainloader +1 > > error: invalid signature > > grub> set root=(hd0,gpt2) > > grub> chainloader +1 > > error: invalid signature > > grub> > > I think I tried something like that, but it didn't work. > > What works, using the SystemRescue CD written to USB stick, is > > (type c to go to command line) > > set root=(hd1,gpt11) (or whatever the actual partition number is) > kfreebsd /boot/loader > boot Thank you, this worked for me. However, FreeBSD's own grub2 (from ports) seems buggy. 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[89.166.233.133]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f11-v6sm16009467edf.68.2018.05.09.01.27.20 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 09 May 2018 01:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Sebastian Schwarz To: Beat Siegenthaler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW questions (log fragments, ipfw show) In-Reply-To: <30495aa3-63f5-4fb7-4433-ae8347d37023@gmail.com> References: <30495aa3-63f5-4fb7-4433-ae8347d37023@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Beat Siegenthaler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 10:27:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87tvrhs07s.fsf@domain.invalid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 08:27:24 -0000 On 2018-05-02, Beat Siegenthaler wrote: > ipfw show: > 63000 56 28136 Wed May 2 22:51:43 2018 allow udp from any to me6 > 53,123 recv gif0 keep-state :default > > what says ":default" at the end? Only on rules with keep-alive. I do not > remember to see this some months ago. This is the flow name. If not explicitly specified it is ":default". The change was released with 11.1: - https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.1R/relnotes.html#kernel-modules - https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=316274 - https://reviews.freebsd.org/D6674 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 11:31:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F6FB4686 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 11:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A87A68527 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 11:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [89.204.130.103] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGMcj-0003Xp-G3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 12:47:05 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id w49Al1xB003280 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id w49Al0s8003279 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:00 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.130.103 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 11:31:06 -0000 When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote host and says: $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> I digged into it with -vv options for ssh and trussing the client. It seems it's our end causing the problem: $ uname -a FreeBSD r314251-amd64 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r314251: Sat Feb 25 17:14:40 CET 2017 root@r303343-amd64:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ truss -s128 -f -o ssh.tr ssh -X -vv apitzm@srap16dxr1 $ grep -i xauth ssh.tr > xauth.txt 20544: stat("/usr/local/bin/xauth",{ mode=-rwxr-xr-x ,inode=2820147,size=41056,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) 20544: write(2,"debug2: client_x11_get_proto: /usr/local/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted t"...,153) = 153 (0x99) 20545: execve("/usr/local/bin/xauth",0x801459260,0x801459408) = 0 (0x0) 20545: stat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",0x7fffffffdc40) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' 20545: openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0600) = 3 (0x3) 20545: pathconf("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",_PC_LINK_MAX) = 32767 (0x7fff) 20545: link("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' 20545: open("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile does not exist\n",75) = 75 (0x4b) 20545: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) = 0 (0x0) 20545: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) = 4 (0x4) 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) = 33 (0x21) 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c") = 0 (0x0) 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) 20544: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file or directory' 20544: write(2,"Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated\r\n",78) = 78 (0x4e) Any ideas? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 13:11:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7A0FB86E1 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 019897FFDF for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1525871479; x=1528463479; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=sAaOjwplLlQqfxrKxusGwvDgprHu3y6icmKqHv9VjlE=; b=HeSmxzYbHLvZ1zUfk0ZvOl5sRx1NehDCrJJYbhVzfL17NAGBbZS9sN0AVjWWH1OXo6yowIB00TFWx9dl9aGfbKux7O734BTXuCBYm3wXF8dTcsZfIwia3csY80HRCKbB5ZMoIEQin9v7t3flAJityhWm7lP2CgrTaXX8PU6MSyE= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi45ODAwMDAwMDg4OTY5OS5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.187.94.11]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 9 May 2018 08:10:59 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r3.us-west-2a.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 9 May 2018 08:10:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fGNvq-000LOv-1c; Wed, 09 May 2018 12:10:54 +0000 Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 13:10:53 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-Id: <20180509131053.454522fef33e7e6dbe8c9498@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 13:11:18 -0000 On Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:00 +0200 Matthias Apitz wrote: > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > host and says: > > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not > generated Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 > apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> ... > Any ideas? Possible workaround - ssh -Y. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 13:28:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1579FB8E68 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43B8882F0A for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:28:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF9862593; Wed, 9 May 2018 09:28:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iabYRCOdE4Te; Wed, 9 May 2018 09:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E9477623A5; Wed, 9 May 2018 09:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2018 09:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 09:28:16 -0400 Subject: [SM-USERS] Problem with folder display options in SM-1.4.23 on FreeBSD-11.1] From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Ted Hatfield" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 13:28:29 -0000 I am forwarding the message outlining the configuration issues which caused my problem together with the solution that solved it. Yours may be different. But this worked for me. Using SM conf.pl go to IMAP server settings and check the delimiter setting (no.9). -------------------------- Original Message -------------------------- Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] Problem with folder display options in SM-1.4.23 on FreeBSD-11.1 From: "James B. Byrne" Date: Wed, May 9, 2018 09:20 To: "Seth Randall" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, May 8, 2018 18:05, Seth Randall wrote: > Since we aren't on the mailing list, I won't bother bottom posting. Where the reply goes has never bothered me. > > You are using the option > > unixhierarchysep: true > > in your imapd.conf file. That means it will tell SquirrelMail > that your mailbox names are separated by '/'. This is used for > compatibility with uw_imap. It may have implications for your > mailbox stores depending on their age. IMAP-3.0 introduced the following change from 2.4: "Important config options: unixhierarchysep: and altnamespace: defaults have changed in imapd.conf(5). Implications are outlined in the Note in User Namespace Mode and Switching the Alternative Namespace. Please also see Sieve Scripts, below." Because of this and of the environment that we use it was necessary to employ '/' instead of '.' on our new imap site. > > In your SquirrelMail configuration, you have the delimiter set to '.' > which is the default delimiter for Cyrus if the unixhierarchysep is > not set. Try going into Server Settings and changing option 9 to > 'detect'. Save the config and then log out and log back in. > > See if that makes any difference. > You have provided the answer. Thank you. It never crossed my mind that changes to imap.conf would have any effect on the folder display in Squirrelmail. Very sincerely, -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 13:49:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C444FB94F2 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mx-p1.obspm.fr (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "*.obspm.fr", Issuer "TERENA SSL CA 3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC67F68870 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from io.chezmoi.fr (io-p2.obspm.fr [145.238.197.205]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx-p1.obspm.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/DIO Observatoire de Paris - 15/04/10) with ESMTP id w49DiiKE265230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 15:44:45 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 15:44:56 +0200 From: Albert Shih To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with screen Message-ID: <20180509134456.GA13314@io.chezmoi.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.11 (mx-p1.obspm.fr [145.238.193.20]); Wed, 09 May 2018 15:44:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.3 at mx-p1.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 13:49:35 -0000 Hi, I've got a freebsd 11.1-RELEASE-p6 on bare-metal and I've got a very strange problem. When I launch screen it's take very long time to create a screen. So I try truss screen, in a typescript, and I got close(11285153) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' close(11285152) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' .............. close(1) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' between those I got 11285150 lines of close(....) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' Everything are up2date on the server. Anyone got a idea ? Regards JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO btiment 15 Observatoire de Paris xmpp: jas@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: Wed May 9 15:39:14 CEST 2018 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:06:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7055FBB620 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 768236BEE4 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGPJ7-0002wl-GE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:39:01 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGPJ7-0000bZ-CB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 15:39:01 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 15:39:01 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180509133901.GB1656@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> <20180509131053.454522fef33e7e6dbe8c9498@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180509131053.454522fef33e7e6dbe8c9498@sohara.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:06:34 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 09, 2018 a las 01:10:53PM +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith escribió: > On Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:00 +0200 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation > > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > > host and says: > > > > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not > > generated Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 > > apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> > > ... > > > Any ideas? > > Possible workaround - ssh -Y. I know (and I use it). But the problem should be solved. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:14:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2F8FBBBC1 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:14:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E80D6E70C for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077FA718072 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 08:46:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> <20180509131053.454522fef33e7e6dbe8c9498@sohara.org> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <456a4548-2ca2-987a-e16a-272d4ca1f093@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 08:46:42 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180509131053.454522fef33e7e6dbe8c9498@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:14:35 -0000 On 05/09/18 07:10, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2018 12:47:00 +0200 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation >> this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote >> host and says: >> >> $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 >> Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not >> generated Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 >> apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> > > ... > >> Any ideas? > > Possible workaround - ssh -Y. > Also, I would check why xauth wasn't able to do its job. Possible reasons: quota on /home exceeded, or one of filesystems is full (or permissions...) Valeri -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:20:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12615FBBF2A for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EEB96EFFC for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from localhost by mail.inka.de with local-rmail id 1fGPws-00046S-Gl; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:20:06 +0200 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w49EIalk062788 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 16:18:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w49EIawc062787 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 May 2018 16:18:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.questions Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 14:18:36 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:20:09 -0000 On 2018-05-09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > host and says: Is X11Forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote host? > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated That's exactly the error you get if X11Forwarding is off on the remote host. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:35:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DEAFBE825 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B00E773379 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9B26248D; Wed, 9 May 2018 10:35:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SbiciAx2aNBF; Wed, 9 May 2018 10:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06BCF61EA8; Wed, 9 May 2018 10:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2018 10:35:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 10:35:36 -0400 Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Matthias Apitz" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:35:47 -0000 On Wed, May 9, 2018 06:47, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my > workstation > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > host and says: > > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not > generated > Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 > apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> > > I digged into it with -vv options for ssh and trussing the client. It > seems it's > our end causing the problem: > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD r314251-amd64 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r314251: > Sat Feb 25 17:14:40 CET 2017 > root@r303343-amd64:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > $ truss -s128 -f -o ssh.tr ssh -X -vv apitzm@srap16dxr1 > $ grep -i xauth ssh.tr > xauth.txt > > 20544: stat("/usr/local/bin/xauth",{ mode=-rwxr-xr-x > ,inode=2820147,size=41056,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 20544: write(2,"debug2: client_x11_get_proto: /usr/local/bin/xauth -f > /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 > untrusted t"...,153) = 153 (0x99) > 20545: execve("/usr/local/bin/xauth",0x801459260,0x801459408) = 0 > (0x0) > 20545: stat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",0x7fffffffdc40) ERR#2 > 'No such file or directory' > 20545: > openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0600) > = 3 (0x3) > 20545: pathconf("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",_PC_LINK_MAX) = > 32767 (0x7fff) > 20545: > link("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") > = 0 (0x0) > 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such > file or directory' > 20545: open("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No > such file or directory' > 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such > file or directory' > 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file > /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile does not exist\n",75) = 75 (0x4b) > 20545: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) = 0 (0x0) > 20545: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) = 4 (0x4) > 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) = 33 (0x21) > 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",{ mode=-rw------- > ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c") = 0 (0x0) > 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l",{ mode=-rw------- > ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) > 20544: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file > or directory' > 20544: write(2,"Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth > key data not generated\r\n",78) = 78 (0x4e) > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > > matthias You need the xauth pkg installed on the remote to generate the .Xauthority file for the ssh session. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:39:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025FCFBEB34 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96C8673779 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:39:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGQFf-0003qt-Vm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:39:32 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGQFf-00076v-U1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:39:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 16:39:31 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with screen Message-ID: <20180509143931.GA14210@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180509134456.GA13314@io.chezmoi.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180509134456.GA13314@io.chezmoi.fr> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:39:35 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 09, 2018 a las 03:44:56PM +0200, Albert Shih escribió: > Hi, > > I've got a freebsd 11.1-RELEASE-p6 on bare-metal and I've got a very > strange problem. > > When I launch screen it's take very long time to create a screen. > > So I try truss screen, in a typescript, and I got > > close(11285153) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' > close(11285152) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' > .............. > close(1) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' > > between those I got > > 11285150 lines of > > close(....) ERR#9 'Bad file descriptor' > > Everything are up2date on the server. > > Anyone got a idea ? I'd say a bug. It wants to close all possible filedescriptors, regardless if they're open or not, from some (wrong deduced) maximal value to 1. I checked out the port and modified the function closing the files in misc.c: void closeallfiles(except) int except; { int f; #ifdef SVR4 struct rlimit rl; if ((getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, &rl) == 0) && rl.rlim_max != RLIM_INFINITY) { f = rl.rlim_max; printf("1: closeallfiles: %d\n", f); } else #endif /* SVR4 */ #if defined(SYSV) && defined(NOFILE) && !defined(ISC) f = NOFILE; printf("2: closeallfiles: %d\n", f); #else /* SYSV && !ISC */ f = getdtablesize(); printf("3: closeallfiles: %d\n", f); #endif /* SYSV && !ISC */ printf("closeallfiles: %d\n", f); exit(1); while (--f > 2) if (f != except) close(f); } it prints: ./screen 1: closeallfiles: 116973 3: closeallfiles: 116973 closeallfiles: 116973 So you see where the bug comes from ... matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 14:50:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2F1FBEF94 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8912C76420 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 14:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGQQK-00040c-Ea for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:50:32 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGQQK-0008Jn-Ci for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:50:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 16:50:32 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180509145032.GA30959@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 14:50:35 -0000 El día Wednesday, May 09, 2018 a las 10:35:36AM -0400, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions escribió: > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 06:47, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my > > workstation > > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > > host and says: > > > > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not > > generated > > Last login: Wed May 9 12:37:17 2018 from 10.49.8.33 > > apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> > > > > I digged into it with -vv options for ssh and trussing the client. It > > seems it's > > our end causing the problem: > > > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD r314251-amd64 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r314251: > > Sat Feb 25 17:14:40 CET 2017 > > root@r303343-amd64:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > $ truss -s128 -f -o ssh.tr ssh -X -vv apitzm@srap16dxr1 > > $ grep -i xauth ssh.tr > xauth.txt > > > > 20544: stat("/usr/local/bin/xauth",{ mode=-rwxr-xr-x > > ,inode=2820147,size=41056,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > > 20544: write(2,"debug2: client_x11_get_proto: /usr/local/bin/xauth -f > > /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 > > untrusted t"...,153) = 153 (0x99) > > 20545: execve("/usr/local/bin/xauth",0x801459260,0x801459408) = 0 > > (0x0) > > 20545: stat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",0x7fffffffdc40) ERR#2 > > 'No such file or directory' > > 20545: > > openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0600) > > = 3 (0x3) > > 20545: pathconf("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",_PC_LINK_MAX) = > > 32767 (0x7fff) > > 20545: > > link("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") > > = 0 (0x0) > > 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such > > file or directory' > > 20545: open("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No > > such file or directory' > > 20545: access("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such > > file or directory' > > 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file > > /tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile does not exist\n",75) = 75 (0x4b) > > 20545: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) = 0 (0x0) > > 20545: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) = 4 (0x4) > > 20545: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) = 33 (0x21) > > 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c",{ mode=-rw------- > > ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > > 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-c") = 0 (0x0) > > 20545: lstat("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l",{ mode=-rw------- > > ,inode=8331,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > > 20545: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) > > 20544: unlink("/tmp/ssh-zfFpkwHgD1qj/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file > > or directory' > > 20544: write(2,"Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth > > key data not generated\r\n",78) = 78 (0x4e) > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks > > > > matthias > > You need the xauth pkg installed on the remote to generate the > .Xauthority file for the ssh session. The RPM is installed on the remote site: apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> rpm -qa | grep xauth xauth-1.0.8-1.51.x86_64 apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> which xauth /usr/bin/xauth apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> but the truss shows that the problem is on the local FreeBSD client site. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 17:52:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C46FC6C1F for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pm_bounces@pm.mtasv.net) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25688017D for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pm_bounces@pm.mtasv.net) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9A12FFC6C1D; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C60FC6C1A for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pm_bounces@pm.mtasv.net) Received: from mta215a-ord.mtasv.net (mta215a-ord.mtasv.net [104.245.209.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BD4E80164 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pm_bounces@pm.mtasv.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=feb2013.pm; d=signnow.com; h=Message-ID:MIME-Version:From:To:Reply-To:Date:Subject:Content-Type; i=mail@signnow.com; bh=pS2QPSLGYS7z4//nnCpV9jzqKPM=; b=oLfCvE7nw41wLcR0ebz/gPQm2aqydxz2Tf9VPcl+lRRT7jclUAKuDunryQ9+vK+oZTToawU0Ufgb rvzmTQuSs6boL/101atTgGDv9MloQBxQr+Y8ixbtS8U6Fxpv9Waj83q+G1rVmladNTbkVNRaqreu AC5ZGYl9AHNFzg6zU/Q= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=pm; d=pm.mtasv.net; h=Message-ID:MIME-Version:From:To:Reply-To:Date:Subject:Content-Type; bh=pS2QPSLGYS7z4//nnCpV9jzqKPM=; b=DQ5B2n3vwHvVJnR4gQDRgG0uNHryz1KelMFrjHX5FKzDqUWJx9Bs8u/xx/OjmHBL9L7cbLDUT1FA RLrxP4fhVucAT+r1wKT04OmGegGFTNciIrWMUdY7pDPHAd36B/VMFbENKESVxqq3hkq2Jv4ONGTd zW8QEwZN4UI7DRwSNpM= Received: by mta215a-ord.mtasv.net id hucqna27tk4c for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 13:42:47 -0400 (envelope-from ) X-PM-IP: 104.245.209.215 X-IADB-IP: 104.245.209.215 X-IADB-IP-REVERSE: 215.209.245.104 Feedback-ID: s922638-_:s922638:a29928:postmark X-Complaints-To: abuse@postmarkapp.com X-PM-Message-Id: e04311f1-1df7-4c90-bcb5-955fac3dee22 X-PM-RCPT: |bTB8Mjk5Mjh8OTIyNjM4fHF1ZXN0aW9uc0BmcmVlYnNkLm9yZw==| Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "richardangelamaxwell (at aditus.info) via SignNow" To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: noreply@signnow.com Date: 9 May 2018 13:42:47 -0400 Subject: Congratulation my fellow Lucky winnner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 17:52:55 -0000 richardangelamaxwell@aditus.info invited you to sign "Congratulat= ion my fellow Lucky winner" and said: =0A "Congratulation my f= ellow Lucky winner.=0A=0AOur names are Richard & Angela Maxwe= ll from Boston UK.=0A=0AMy wife and I won the Euro Millions Lotte= ry of =C2=A353 Million British Pounds and we have voluntarily dec= ided to donate =E2=82=AC1,000,000.00 (One Million EURO) to 5 indi= viduals randomly as part of our own charity project.=0A=0Awww.tel= egraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11511467/Lincolnshire-c= ouple-win-53m-on-EuroMillions.html =0A=0AAfter a computer spin-ba= ll,your email address was among the 5 random emails which were su= bmitted to us by the Google, Inc as a web user; if you have recei= ved our email, kindly send us the below details so that we can tr= ansfer your =E2=82=AC1,000,000.00 (One Million EURO) in your name= or direct our offshore paying bank to effect the transfer of the= funds to your designated bank account in your own country.=0A=0A= 1. 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Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 77.189.71.40 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 18:09:39 -0000 El día miércoles, mayo 09, 2018 a las 02:18:36p. m. -0000, Christian Weisgerber escribió: > On 2018-05-09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstation > > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote > > host and says: > > Is X11Forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote host? > > > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 > > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated > > That's exactly the error you get if X11Forwarding is off on the > remote host. X11Forwarding is definitely enabled on the remote server. Other users in my company network who are coming from Ubuntu workstations to the same server do not face this problem. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: Спаси́бо, освободители! Thank you very much, Russian liberators! From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 19:47:18 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4521AFC9C20 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 19:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E542E7BC85 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 19:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (router.lan [172.30.250.2]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AA233C0B for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 15:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A34143984F; Wed, 9 May 2018 15:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> <20180509180935.GA1064@c720-r314251> Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 15:41:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20180509180935.GA1064@c720-r314251> (Matthias Apitz's message of "Wed, 9 May 2018 20:09:35 +0200") Message-ID: <44d0y4iplm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 19:47:18 -0000 Matthias Apitz writes: > El d=EDa mi=E9rcoles, mayo 09, 2018 a las 02:18:36p. m. -0000, Christian = Weisgerber escribi=F3: > >> On 2018-05-09, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>=20 >> > When I launch 'ssh -X remote host' to get X11 forwarded to my workstat= ion >> > this does not work, i.e. does not produce a DISPLAY env on the remote >> > host and says: >>=20 >> Is X11Forwarding enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote host? >>=20 >> > $ ssh -X apitzm@srap16dxr1 >> > Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not gen= erated >>=20 >> That's exactly the error you get if X11Forwarding is off on the >> remote host. > > X11Forwarding is definitely enabled on the remote server. Other users in > my company network who are coming from Ubuntu workstations to the same > server do not face this problem. Have you tried increasing the verbosity on the ssh session? And if possible, on the sshd at the other end? From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 20:30:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD79FCB539 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 20:30:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCECB8577A for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 20:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.100.26] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGVjd-0000QS-97 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 09 May 2018 22:30:49 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id w49KUn14002272 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 22:30:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id w49KUnFm002271 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 May 2018 22:30:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 22:30:49 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180509203049.GA2230@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> <20180509180935.GA1064@c720-r314251> <44d0y4iplm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <44d0y4iplm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.100.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 20:30:52 -0000 El d=C3=ADa mi=C3=A9rcoles, mayo 09, 2018 a las 03:41:25p. m. -0400, Lowell= Gilbert escribi=C3=B3: > > X11Forwarding is definitely enabled on the remote server. Other users in > > my company network who are coming from Ubuntu workstations to the same > > server do not face this problem. >=20 > Have you tried increasing the verbosity on the ssh session? > And if possible, on the sshd at the other end? Have you read my original post? I used -vv as options for the SSH client site and in addition watch the client with truss(1). matthias --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176= -38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: =D0=A1=D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8=CC=81=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B2= =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8! Thank you very much= , Russian liberators! 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Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Lydia Skaggs (502)-428-1746 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 9 23:01:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A10CFCE8F9 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 23:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctorwhoguy@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09F6768F74 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 23:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doctorwhoguy@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id r9-v6so887718iod.6 for ; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iooXjzD2FnrkDjqTrEaBR0KmVKSSW3GxYo5jjt6R7Rg=; b=LvxXUohv31X2SIkrW5GR1sbLRjVpW7pNjjubm6iwoE7UDCeb1p344ddhTd1fSOugf+ RdDjIgyBUIesIchFHQpaYbDR0sneS0IKvgfi8Mcg8xzqyWfKasfAIjAYinL9UaO/mS5s 4DfJD41q3s9rSLQF+8oc+S7x3AMnHTcnEdsESwvjTE60PkYWUBGzh2l2wWdUsC9rj5xO Xncmkhy72nS5QAXGa8cK395oYi4a2tAj5srXQpyiLYBCLl+hdpXnWNVlvy0CfNl6w6G6 HQyCGCfTifM3J6SsaODjRiZdUgqbreC35sv0ipWS/16yj/cSDGBCDbLm1/vR3F/vzozz L0Mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iooXjzD2FnrkDjqTrEaBR0KmVKSSW3GxYo5jjt6R7Rg=; b=c+Z6eFX1ZOWELzXGMNfgWabSaNxtyLqH876FUiE+tqRrnRwLH4wgVReXxj5jJhy3Nd y2BdQY57BupsykL9ZgocmmddegNhL/6q8nD3worXlhaUsDkuynrgxD3gAU7mBhXcJPYu VqweonRpQfch+D+ItzekowzUgbD7afoHCranajbDEXx97AWm3syY2BhyMxAik7fqza+g +QjtscvQGp/fbzz+0hf6urwunGbZERK5EkZm6tYOKuo8OaxpxatVY+4trKdF4isXyml+ kjG/KpnJCZ8Que0Kk6VdLI8Or69uLQ0sKax6Mrmane7w/DH9GvwBKtiu7lt5zeQpo1AZ 03UQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tAHgCyyZ59kKYxzgEZKsDHPBFFdD7oHW7gQ1RBTzfCXtwhLTKYg xjrG4wqgukPGvkfvZGDNafuMezJ7UtqMyD1KewmrrA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpNJ+sQ1cgIBnRjtga0J04oq/MsiKdM9hGtuSLk8LwPAhcGTIQr+NgHUBfwAn468GBgIMR/Co9ZDvq6DiytYTI= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:895c:: with SMTP id l89-v6mr49093511iod.22.1525906878209; Wed, 09 May 2018 16:01:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a4f:248f:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2018 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Patrick McMunn Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 18:01:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: sshd refuses connections until I restart the daemon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 23:01:19 -0000 I sometimes access my FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p9 box from my laptop via ssh. Sometimes I can connect, but sometimes I get the message "ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.71 port 22: Connection refused". But if I walk over to the computer and manually restart the sshd daemon, I can then go back to my laptop and successfully ssh into the FreeBSD box. Why would it stop accepting ssh connections until restarting the daemon, and how can I fix this from recurring? -- Patrick McMunn From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 00:43:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC07FD054F for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 00:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) Received: from mail.irk.ru (mail.irk.ru [195.206.40.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415727E36D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 00:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thor@irk.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=irk.ru; s=dkim; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=N40UDMFJZwOyd2DX+hHlr3ZDY5zBTptHac9s+aDQGFM=; b=lwUyBRJLD0/y2UI079JzfalxeU dWaUI+t+WzEuRs6rNEi3/fAhWIBdDcpw/D5X3WlkTox70NmcjL5h2G0ypA+0/Rli5yzTos51ZJOdL 5FknwEvIL9/HOuKMgE6x9TlWCI5xF/KnN6X29ukhmIMnoQvC3cFP7WkHfBKrZZfagWs0=; Received: from [194.176.114.54] (helo=[192.168.1.130]) by mail.irk.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.89 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fGZZS-000NzY-Fa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:36:34 +0800 Subject: Re: sshd refuses connections until I restart the daemon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: thor Message-ID: <19d2f225-02b4-7d69-9a12-3ea382be73a7@irk.ru> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:42:41 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 00:43:16 -0000 Well, as I understand, there are 2 things: 1) The existing ssh daemon stops responding for unknown reasons while still running, 2) There is a mechanism to start daemons via inetd, and there are sshd lines commented out in it's config. So you could try (I didn't try so the recommendation is purely theoretical) uncomment sshd in /etc/inetd.conf, comment out sshd_enable='YES" in /etc/rc.conf, add inetd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (if not added) and reboot. It should create a new instance of sshd every time you access the computer. Hopefully the new instance would work. On 05/10/18 07:01, Patrick McMunn wrote: > I sometimes access my FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p9 box from my laptop via ssh. > Sometimes I can connect, but sometimes I get the message "ssh: connect to > host 192.168.0.71 port 22: Connection refused". But if I walk over to the > computer and manually restart the sshd daemon, I can then go back to my > laptop and successfully ssh into the FreeBSD box. Why would it stop > accepting ssh connections until restarting the daemon, and how can I fix > this from recurring? > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 01:01:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B44FD0A71 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 01:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from baywinds.org (50-196-187-248-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.187.248]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "baywinds.org", Issuer "rr-v" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 230F58143B for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 01:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from [192.0.2.130] (rr-iii [192.0.2.130]) by baywinds.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w4A11To3008992 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 18:01:30 -0700 Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180509104700.GA3259@c720-r314251> <20180509180935.GA1064@c720-r314251> <44d0y4iplm.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20180509203049.GA2230@c720-r314251> From: Bruce Ferrell Message-ID: <56ee503a-222c-c94b-d5f5-2d933730e64c@baywinds.org> Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 18:01:29 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180509203049.GA2230@c720-r314251> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 01:01:33 -0000 On 05/09/2018 01:30 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día miércoles, mayo 09, 2018 a las 03:41:25p. m. -0400, Lowell Gilbert escribió: > >>> X11Forwarding is definitely enabled on the remote server. Other users in >>> my company network who are coming from Ubuntu workstations to the same >>> server do not face this problem. >> Have you tried increasing the verbosity on the ssh session? >> And if possible, on the sshd at the other end? > Have you read my original post? I used -vv as options for the > SSH client site and in addition watch the client with truss(1). > > matthias Just out of curiosity, are you able to increase logging on the server? The error would tend to imply the client is making the request and being rejected at the server. By design, the client can't necessarily tell why... But the server knows. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 01:49:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C49FD2F73 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 01:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from baywinds.org (50-196-187-248-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.187.248]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "baywinds.org", Issuer "rr-v" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 941A569FF6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 01:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from [192.0.2.130] (rr-iii [192.0.2.130]) by baywinds.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w4A0v3Ja006620 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 17:57:04 -0700 Subject: Re: sshd refuses connections until I restart the daemon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Bruce Ferrell Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 17:57:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 01:49:37 -0000 On 05/09/2018 04:01 PM, Patrick McMunn wrote: > I sometimes access my FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p9 box from my laptop via ssh. > Sometimes I can connect, but sometimes I get the message "ssh: connect to > host 192.168.0.71 port 22: Connection refused". But if I walk over to the > computer and manually restart the sshd daemon, I can then go back to my > laptop and successfully ssh into the FreeBSD box. Why would it stop > accepting ssh connections until restarting the daemon, and how can I fix > this from recurring? > Patrick, There are a couple of entries that could be in sshd_config that might create this effect: MaxSessions: 10 is default; other values do interesting things MaxStartups:  default is 10:30:100; see the man page for sshd_config as it get's a wee touch detailed Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 02:03:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBEBFD3B45 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 02:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.posteo.de", Issuer "StartCom Class 3 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61CA46C311 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 02:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0248021219 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 04:03:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 40hGj00Pdqz9rxG for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 04:03:15 +0200 (CEST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org From: Wes Frazier Subject: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=wes.frazier@members.fsf.org; keydata= xsBNBFnkGS8BCADFsuOK5MoYG9ngr5avBVEZ3M2YWFYqhFnrnegeC6gFP7CEEEhFlAlGFRJa 2lomWr9vkG19OpxtbiJVnXfmgquN5niDm3rx00So2EmpspHIp8/mOFE7Gx8tupQcOU6kVt4A 7i3U4KF+E1adev2BzVTxLOJPoaKRsA+puHdPH8jZ1a3y0YEtvLF8UUKiSEsECrjk30fQVKEl pGwNZUk5T30zWQWEIJXdYSviCbJmbzbf8DUQbHAxfcADYbMPm83XIOo14YbBjym8owNP1zhF M8ZOOxI0tQSh8Y+5U9Yn7pCm4FbIflLAIfV2dpoqeLgjQjOUDna+bo0HaWDt1bQQtUczABEB AAHNKVdlcyBGcmF6aWVyIDx3ZXMuZnJhemllckBtZW1iZXJzLmZzZi5vcmc+wsB/BBMBCAAp BQJZ5BkvAhsDBQkCky4ABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQFO57iiyrSi6Q KAf+Pv/4HBh7Pk/NpjwaxdwK4Sxd4kO54VwcEcNmeGKMLPqD3ctDslETRBPyzA5Uvyckn5cE 6B8CbNKPEzpRRgr0kDHT5lzoHFaaubnl5ncYe419HMs8Dk3PXpwkjZ8KMotzJFvNVaaZ7Q7X B+r4godvMkDIZAz9GDBbyHKeK/1yqWQgquWJ7vxf2wSWWE6NqqENgcXQNUp54Ay4H+r3qEhT E72xbKFycmZ9idB7bzIKaf801M3AnbiUlvLcMXenFORtqhWXFYJqv/N/io9DN0nQfBpr9Fyc h50MNG4yVw/5jAtlnr6pXbTHPfAzp3/mv1NsrpLR6cRhXU5PW+jqyqLM7M7ATQRZ5BkvAQgA vIxBTKdST8TjalLJ45i2VO6x6FiTuS7FNwhlWinbmLrVqBOyuMU7Foxbps0BSjSY0+6tGUfJ bUdnbZ4EzzrVT1lPpj86vv4ukj9n7XzggAZJopzTj66ghqmiUfrZu5K5ClQUtosxYiUtIO7z 1BRf1xC5UNmqFEWxafEk81AVr6Us9J7BbyW4SdMh2ReHF+zgSs1CSzjobCZ/sA4v5uYp1hiq V08ZLawLIQoKQQFDorwMDPuX0ZL2O6ux2pX9tI04pGem2JVfQwxgfoE1Tj47MIvftmlzJ5uC O1y9zpkPjw00AngJgHKaIb0Xe6z4dJKotbAygB2tD/EM+2QJfBZ7aQARAQABwsBlBBgBCAAP BQJZ5BkvAhsMBQkCky4AAAoJEBTue4osq0ou3+8IAI/lD29qvdz2qmN0O68h9sE3r7qaqTpq 9LNgNIeTEJ7H6EfO9xU7TnPrBEm49V7fBJZLhkpyhA1XDwXPFgnQU+1dln9zGmm5qRySY71y zVvttW0k9FffhqvJy8yekcBHi8LIJVGV+FhrNixICs0zzPquWKtlcTSYQt80zuLND6XQYHb+ 7nq80Ij2h9e1b3sZ34Ceo0fjvIogieVXdmrg6K/fWKZ+yKOx0LBI60wB9pzb0T7WjuO0svxt lq3NfAji6+fadgIyWCDPx0aJx0/+LXvxkK0+1c4E9KjqmEfRSR1fdwasqLN43eD7x465JIIv DaE+1+8RUdzR93Ym3iKR3/Y= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 22:03:14 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E4424EAC12451D404DBAF44B" Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 02:03:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E4424EAC12451D404DBAF44B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected. It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefile was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to get a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) 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Regards, Alicia Holmes From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 08:00:53 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB24FB768F for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C545770A5 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.102.219] (helo=[192.168.2.102]) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGgVO-0000Kw-Gc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 10:00:50 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Subject: Re: sshd refuses connections until I restart the daemon Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 10:00:51 +0200 User-Agent: Dekko/0.6.20; Qt/5.4.1; ubuntumirclient; Linux; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.102.219 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:00:53 -0000 On Thursday, 10 May 2018 01:01:17 CEST, Patrick McMunn=20 wrote: > I sometimes access my FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p9 box from my laptop via ssh. > Sometimes I can connect, but sometimes I get the message "ssh: connect to > host 192.168.0.71 port 22: Connection refused". But if I walk over to the > computer and manually restart the sshd daemon, I can then go back to my > laptop and successfully ssh into the FreeBSD box. Why would it stop > accepting ssh connections until restarting the daemon, and how can I fix > this from recurring? >=20 What's written in /var/log/messages about sshd? --=20 Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 11:27:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CC4FC590C for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com [17.120.80.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D044684B68 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0P8I00500FQI2Q00@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:27:35 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1525951655; bh=2HAx4oRRupXu4z3L2mB1Hzq1qc8P2YMI7BgEvH4FjCU=; h=From:Content-type:MIME-version:Date:Subject:Message-id:To; b=G9MoiCrNb3qoUovs6ihvevK112Z+FuEiy3UU/u6ZK1+jEQLtTrhaNQEUvXyj4HILu ov8603hFCW9roi052+e4gwJml6/luraq1cnF5h1VMrEFAXfWi+/UqpGujyZKcTEiyh 7EyMuOgVN/B0miecY2UHSvZs5WCRuhWxoWqH5mOQ/O29TzGMdv4q1SEiMpbj5x/Ga7 8cs1DEn7DjeKmcL54Aiclxn2OKjWB0ppBsRapeO+ug8eGLasBOkjcYCWcVm5As7cV8 oZ9u2/3aP7f6iGaC/97zSv5uWqMBWP/wXEZEG8LnqO6j/Kr4Br17yhBjQ4eySDcBax 1qq6Ulqe07vcg== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P8I00HREFTOVN50@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:27:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-05-10_04:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1805100113 From: =?utf-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:27:20 +0800 Subject: How to hide boot console message. Message-id: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> To: freebsd X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E302) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:27:45 -0000 Is it possible that the boot message is not displayed when boot ? Only show w= hen some error happen. Most of time there is no boot error occured, we no need to care the boot mes= sage. I try create a file /boot.config with content "-mq" add below lines verbose_loading=3D"NO" boot_mute=3D"YES" in file /boot/loader.conf but some network connection message still show , is there a way to hide that= ? thanks= From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 12:26:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D234BFC7C91 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 12:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308EA71093 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 12:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id e12-v6so2751520iob.8 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 05:26:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4VcfwkE4frUCSnBQ5UAC11SKCtGC22zxYwRQNCFhrX4=; b=Hd75fG7eu8jAQhlPnRR+vCSY8mDLYFWhVH4FokAsUncX3ARoUjWt/tlXKpUP8s6I8A Iax52EsoshS+f3XZAmkPC95xkj28ofSUVeF8nHyeX62dmklCyJucgnK8stj5vpUWjVl3 vATHu0NFOd6TE4WPtlncYV18ou6cYVgip8qHzP2Dze1yVZQkXxllME72Xl6xzC01QU6A wyDAr03SR9hg/6MGTuNSX8mb16poZnRGJ5UIJWnm+kApXRV2Kkajccyb1M8w3R1x01nx 3uKkGuDfVzj/aLbxDtKhD17kV1aDi3F1umzpjxOQtAMA6Z4EjbHMnW08faqdrNrTIzNY 6N/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4VcfwkE4frUCSnBQ5UAC11SKCtGC22zxYwRQNCFhrX4=; b=V4XaPztkL7nogBrG4FPQroQZi8LFvFmJ79w+yaiOji1MRd7oPqieoWdZJuse29A8wB 6QTTYptbywPY6bhrvhop+hPApyyrgc7Zg1Ylh06rcRahS8ijKD36rTvlgGRzXcwBzILM HMrVdPz8OU1z2uCMgawVuWKoanzNZeMTHXn9/xFmxe6l2NGb/gufxUV70NhcbTCNK9+Y cXJiLW1ND4MKDlQMn6EGGlG0W1Xggh0BNulz0cGpkAp8rAiYeOfzDb1UFvWFwQtGExM7 TzVdhFrxThuryD8gE/68EUVrpSlBj8GQdE7teMJs1HPo6lU9v1TjzBHQqbxNY1U39Sqy W0XQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdWqWTS5Kw+swy9mkr5d4rX98NvTfjDTEFmfTkvKEftTttd939l umezpeNbi5i37MS5dk6+RsM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZqEliEmoVAIwntFhups/24nmaTB87sBoG5weu73NYVq+mrINp2cit8Ju1ig2QYoTD1H9xPcyg== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:bf03:: with SMTP id p3-v6mr1233677iof.6.1525955182636; Thu, 10 May 2018 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i76-v6sm387497ita.33.2018.05.10.05.26.21 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 May 2018 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:26:21 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= CC: freebsd Subject: Re: How to hide boot console message. References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:26:24 -0000 李周华 wrote: > Is it possible that the boot message is not displayed when boot ? Only show when some error happen. > > Most of time there is no boot error occurred, we no need to care the boot message. > > I try create a file /boot.config with content "-mq" > > add below lines > > verbose_loading="NO" > boot_mute="YES" > > to file /boot/loader.conf > > but some network connection message still show , is there a way to hide that ? thanks > With the above config if you are still getting boot time network connection messages, then this is a bug. You should file a bug report about this showing the output your getting. Can help you with "stopping the boot time messages from showing". But there is no control over showing only errors. The only error at boot time is the system freezing up. You will notice this when it happens. Any other error such as missed spelled options in /etc/rc.conf is not an boot error. They are just ignored and the boot process continues by design. If you use a boot time splash screen those "boot time messages" will not show rolling across your master console. A few boot loader messages, including the boot options menu and the timed wait countdown prompt, are still displayed at boot time, even with the boot splash screen enabled. See handbook for info on how to configure. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/boot-splash.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 12:34:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9614CFC81ED for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 12:34:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B69A72501 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 12:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055BA62593; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:34:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4fP2KD7KpWrS; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41A506258D; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:34:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:34:27 -0400 Message-ID: <6ac188db1661a27fd27a17797673ed16.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:34:27 -0400 Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Matthias Apitz" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 12:34:31 -0000 On Wed, May 9, 2018 14:09, Matthias Apitz wrote: What is the ownership of and permissions on .Xauthority on the remote host? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 13:37:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D580FC9BB2 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 13:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com [17.120.80.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4F4180596 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 13:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0P8I00P00LIQ8000@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 13:37:10 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1525959430; bh=/6lPuhwHRmtK0bOI07sFuqaQy+3lLBpg2h7JBdcsyAE=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=jkO9pZ7QPPoMY9Gv754JplccuzOBuyEP6HtdbWUsR/MIWto7h6F4qaCGnzYCKGM4G EA6qgpDwHsXWb8hB15iS8pZOPIx2XlXY2rVNoDFRQwyZsSt4mLTd/bDSuHAVYF1/E8 C2TJRar3aVajI6BE9le3PpARcaDiOTpy0qEWbkvgUXAPVnWL6/tx/R3Sz08N/AQEqP G+43nKXLp5JxTKvAp3MiRqI5SmV1ZtuW2q8lLdywLuFkQedx3kW5zK5ACiW6+nIo4u Uui2+hDMAXbSIeYHr4GrDoD7+TchYcDleFqIb7CxEcu0FJE1DzLVQmuUZVCg4OISkR sMN9DrhKcasrQ== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P8I000CQLTTDX00@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com>; Thu, 10 May 2018 13:37:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-05-10_06:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1805100132 MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: How to hide boot console message. From: =?utf-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E302) In-reply-to: <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 21:37:04 +0800 Cc: freebsd Message-id: <7195A6DB-B366-4334-8917-6565BCDC7FF8@icloud.com> References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 13:37:40 -0000 Luzar, thanks for you quickly and kindly reply =F0=9F=98=84. Just now i download and add a .bmp image under /boot and add some lines in /= boot/loader.conf . now it content is that: boot_mute=3D"YES" verbose_loading=3D"NO" beastie_disable=3D"YES" autoboot_de= lay=3D"-1" #kern.vty=3Dvt #hw.vga.textmode=3D1 i915kms_load=3D"YES" #kern.vt= .fb.default_mode=3D"1280x800" fuse_load=3D"YES" snd_hda_load=3D"YES" splash_= bmp_load=3D"YES" bitmap_load=3D"YES" bitmap_name=3D"/boot/splash.bmp" Unfortunately only show the default ugly image, splash.bmp not show. what worg with it ? How to make a .pcx file or ascll art (splash.bin)? thanks. > On May 10, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > =E6=9D=8E=E5=91=A8=E5=8D=8E wrote: >> Is it possible that the boot message is not displayed when boot ? Only sh= ow when some error happen. >> Most of time there is no boot error occurred, we no need to care the boot= message. >> I try create a file /boot.config with content "-mq" >> add below lines >> verbose_loading=3D"NO" >> boot_mute=3D"YES" >> to file /boot/loader.conf >> but some network connection message still show , is there a way to hide t= hat ? thanks >=20 > With the above config if you are still getting boot time network connectio= n messages, then this is a bug. You should file a bug report about this show= ing the output your getting. >=20 >=20 > Can help you with "stopping the boot time messages from showing". But ther= e is no control over showing only errors. The only error at boot time is the= system freezing up. You will notice this when it happens. Any other error s= uch as missed spelled options in /etc/rc.conf is not an boot error. They are= just ignored and the boot process continues by design. >=20 > If you use a boot time splash screen those "boot time messages" will not s= how rolling across your master console. A few boot loader messages, includin= g the boot options menu and the timed wait > countdown prompt, are still displayed at boot time, even with the boot spl= ash screen enabled. >=20 > See handbook for info on how to configure. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/han= dbook/boot-splash.html >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 14:01:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88BAFCA682 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76DA6859D0 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.102.219] (helo=[192.168.2.102]) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGm7u-0001N1-Ph; Thu, 10 May 2018 16:00:58 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: "James B. Byrne" Cc: Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 16:00:58 +0200 User-Agent: Dekko/0.6.20; Qt/5.4.1; ubuntumirclient; Linux; MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> In-Reply-To: <6ac188db1661a27fd27a17797673ed16.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.102.219 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:01:09 -0000 On Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:34:27 CEST, James B. Byrne=20 wrote: >=20 > On Wed, May 9, 2018 14:09, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > What is the ownership of and permissions on .Xauthority on the remote > host? >=20 It's owned by me, created as new if not there, but with size=3D0. matthias --=20 Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 14:38:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DF7FCB8F5 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677A8D50D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06703718084; Thu, 10 May 2018 09:38:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth To: Matthias Apitz , "James B. Byrne" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 09:38:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:38:24 -0000 On 05/10/18 09:00, Matthias Apitz wrote: > On Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:34:27 CEST, James B. Byrne > wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 14:09, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> >> What is the ownership of and permissions on .Xauthority on the remote >> host? >> > > It's owned by me, created as new if not there, but with size=0. Did you check that you are not up against hard quota, and the filesystem is not full? I already suggested that, but my message seems to miss your attention. One thing you can try on remote host is: dd if=/dev/zero of=~/test.dat bs=1024 count=1 if that creates 1 kB ~/test.dat file, neither quota nor filesystem full is on your way. If that file has zero size, then you are hit by one of the above. Another possibility on multi-user system when this works for others but not for you is if you as UNIX user is prohibited [X]-forwarding by sysadmin (-"fascist"). I as sysadmin only twice during last decade had to restrict one single user from doing something, but it still is the possibility. Valeri > > matthias > > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 14:57:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25503FCC3FC for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com [17.120.80.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD60D69513 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ailee.email@icloud.com) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0P8I00J00P7OY800@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:56:43 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1525964203; bh=qKix8nkX3bvJ+ECUnZygokPH/sWEicDF/b/1IAhJfCM=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=LhK5jiOekflQVwJt66jCFxaJU7NRWqL2dmSAWDyrxsIc68KWY4wyY49goWJLS2JAe bGASofe/eL90UL0LwsmObxvRY0py/AKm/pW5AY7BEoYcAVxaogsRzFFMHFEx8HfIUx +cd3QPFJTzvXLkdg+euB23UTfzhL/KrhlIOJSgPY7LlmOoUA4vb3Q4gT264D5cOKvM TXKRCKq0r2TSvZGZMhc49wa1FuyMhwEiFdef0OpENRS31W9HUDPnQZHVVB6o0iYLsc mMJFctiuOl51oEeBwA1b27ap5MhKcVf/F+RC/gH1I1nWaULi0tmZiCPEYnDxVvlVYq QO0oX+RoR6uhg== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P8I00O20PIEAB00@mr29p60im-ztfb07091501.me.com>; Thu, 10 May 2018 14:56:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-05-10_06:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1805100142 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: How to hide boot console message. From: =?utf-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E302) In-reply-to: <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:56:36 +0800 Cc: freebsd Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <4473FFD1-612B-4E82-92EA-C78BDB065164@icloud.com> References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:57:00 -0000 I find in console show a error when boot. ..... Changing splash image . expr:division by zero /etc/rc:ERROR:choice failed=20 ...... > On May 10, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > =E6=9D=8E=E5=91=A8=E5=8D=8E wrote: >> Is it possible that the boot message is not displayed when boot ? Only sh= ow when some error happen. >> Most of time there is no boot error occurred, we no need to care the boot= message. >> I try create a file /boot.config with content "-mq" >> add below lines >> verbose_loading=3D"NO" >> boot_mute=3D"YES" >> to file /boot/loader.conf >> but some network connection message still show , is there a way to hide t= hat ? thanks >=20 > With the above config if you are still getting boot time network connectio= n messages, then this is a bug. You should file a bug report about this show= ing the output your getting. >=20 >=20 > Can help you with "stopping the boot time messages from showing". But ther= e is no control over showing only errors. The only error at boot time is the= system freezing up. You will notice this when it happens. Any other error s= uch as missed spelled options in /etc/rc.conf is not an boot error. They are= just ignored and the boot process continues by design. >=20 > If you use a boot time splash screen those "boot time messages" will not s= how rolling across your master console. A few boot loader messages, includin= g the boot options menu and the timed wait > countdown prompt, are still displayed at boot time, even with the boot spl= ash screen enabled. >=20 > See handbook for info on how to configure. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/han= dbook/boot-splash.html >=20 >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 15:02:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B504FCC73D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 046A06BAB3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.102.219] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGn51-0005Jy-CJ; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:02:03 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id w4AF20UL002842 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 May 2018 17:02:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id w4AF1tln002838; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:01:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:01:54 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: "James B. Byrne" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Valeri Galtsev , "James B. Byrne" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.102.219 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:02:09 -0000 --LZvS9be/3tNcYl/X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa jueves, mayo 10, 2018 a las 09:38:16a. m. -0500, Valeri Galtsev= escribi=C3=B3: >=20 >=20 > On 05/10/18 09:00, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > On Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:34:27 CEST, James B. Byrne=20 > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 9, 2018 14:09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> > >> What is the ownership of and permissions on .Xauthority on the remote > >> host? > >> > >=20 > > It's owned by me, created as new if not there, but with size=3D0. >=20 > Did you check that you are not up against hard quota, and the filesystem= =20 > is not full? I already suggested that, but my message seems to miss your= =20 > attention. One thing you can try on remote host is: The remote host is one of our central development hosts, has not quota, no file sys full and plenty much GB of disk space: $ scp /boot/kernel/kernel apitzm@s70devl:. $ ssh apitzm@s70devl ls -lh kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 apitzm apitzm 26M 10. Mai 16:49 kernel $ ssh apitzm@s70devl LANG=3DC df -kh . Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vg_root-lv_root 337G 68G 268G 21% / > Another possibility on multi-user system when this works for others but= =20 > not for you is if you as UNIX user is prohibited [X]-forwarding by=20 > sysadmin (-"fascist"). I as sysadmin only twice during last decade had=20 > to restrict one single user from doing something, but it still is the=20 > possibility. I don't think, that our IT department does such things against the Tech Head I am :-) I do thank for all replies, but have to say, that all ignored the provided= =20 truss output (at least in all replies). Here it is again and shows that there is a LOCAL problem; the LOCAL /usr/local/bin/xauth tries to create the LOCAL file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile (perhaps to move it o= ver the SSH channel to the remote end) and it fails doing this: $ grep xauth ssh.tr 2505: stat("/usr/local/bin/xauth",{ mode=3D-rwxr-xr-x ,inode=3D15268663,si= ze=3D41056,blksize=3D32768 }) =3D 0 (0x0) 2505: write(2,"debug2: client_x11_get_proto: /usr/local/bin/xauth -f /tmp/= ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout= 1260 2>/dev/null\r\n",153) =3D 153 (0x99) 2506: execve("/usr/local/bin/xauth",0x80145a260,0x80145a408) =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: stat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",0x7fffffffdb80) ERR#2 'No s= uch file or directory' 2506: openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT= |O_EXCL,0600) =3D 3 (0x3) 2506: pathconf("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",_PC_LINK_MAX) =3D 32767= (0x7fff) 2506: link("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xaut= hfile-l") =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file o= r directory' 2506: open("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such= file or directory' 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file o= r directory' 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile= does not exist\n",75) =3D 75 (0x4b) 2506: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) =3D 4 (0x4) 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) =3D 33 (0x21) 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",{ mode=3D-rw------- ,inode= =3D24961,size=3D0,blksize=3D32768 }) =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c") =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l",{ mode=3D-rw------- ,inode= =3D24961,size=3D0,blksize=3D32768 }) =3D 0 (0x0) 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l") =3D 0 (0x0) 2505: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file or dir= ectory' 2505: write(2,"Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key d= ata not generated\r\n",78) =3D 78 (0x4e) $ grep Sec ssh.tr 2505: read(3,"\0\0\^A\^D\v\^_\0\0\0h\0\0\0\^Secdsa-sha2-nistp256\0\0\0\bni= stp256\0\0\0A\^D\^Qa Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11D5FCCAC8 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com (mail-qk0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 531726BEDF for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id l132-v6so1805004qke.3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tenebras-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NDvcuYzRI35nrOqUBIzkXL2Al0WWOm3j1Hd8lTBEMQY=; b=rkdBM90uYQLDtwiYEDEe9Um0NnoJEvLCCuz1Fr8TAMQJ+XHnI2GFVNtqvhufztzEl5 IFMGhunqSXIP/G/E+rmPTBA3dV//paha+TgUm76/SifRBRXs2Vgz+5lY5XtFrAOuEsLJ 6hyfdHoQ+y1hWKPc/hA3DsA44NpPljX4ms1vIz9rRaRldsxoym4DpgUaraL6KllbT7lF Y53q9322oqyQRWfdYqJKXD6QLxCJtL9sLRh7cRaOZwnFRF+wZ4eE8P4gLY9ZYsCTdlH6 k/J7tg5JSYjvtepOipMfRS1/tsuLBmOhmFeWtKFH0WO8PGWOO1slIhVLvDtn3sgspT3I UJTA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NDvcuYzRI35nrOqUBIzkXL2Al0WWOm3j1Hd8lTBEMQY=; b=TlfJGiKilII0N3h8+hjM0XUnbXcPiL0gE5yMwokQ3VEFadUJythK1TG1MvKDlrDevr j37yy14xvbPuioO1SSxOOfBRiWL5O1HoUAruS3IQ7h3+HTpQpulkZMZmvleWj5RhrFOp h60RbWC9yuTxBm/cIwEu5G0lzM3eAyqYejw+r6EdIZzTLlkJuCJN0k3LvWvXcjoOTc7j M3q8C23kbGnrMzUWOlTVx9WFV8C5YUKXB/OEk0VEtZV2MMpjjOW4Vd0/6xPowd7axXgA jlqhsfgdZ8TtL7zn7u53HkY1BQOoVe17QrncA4IQH3jxtBRNYPNVjLe425D2Plg6GNXs mlQw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweKDeo0UVJPLPwjnF21DKjvl36RZxEfaGUCKd2u7uSH3gEwlfrW ffNcjKE5xBfLytvR2HaW9aue0K70ob9lH4ZAA374XzYiE/I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpVY1bb/xk265ojSVHcnl+T6ikakc/2iVmdZpFEmN/HqXuEnZ00i5M1EKcTRt4+XALH8F6UzYtEkxHqpjXiii8= X-Received: by 2002:a37:a64d:: with SMTP id p74-v6mr1513479qke.296.1525964705439; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:05:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.41.92 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:05:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Sierchio Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:05:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:05:07 -0000 Why not start with the package and see if that doesn't suit your needs? gnurobots-1.2.0_12 GNU diversion wherein Scheme-coded robots explore a world On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Wes Frazier wrote: > Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. > > games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected. > It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU > Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. > > I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefile > was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. > > I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the > best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to get > a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) > > Advice appreciated. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 15:46:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060A0FCE315 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:46:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from baywinds.org (50-196-187-248-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.187.248]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "baywinds.org", Issuer "rr-v" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98283778F8 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bferrell@baywinds.org) Received: from bruces-MacBook-Pro.local (mac [192.0.2.93]) by baywinds.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w4AFk0h5017983 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 08:46:00 -0700 Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> From: Bruce Ferrell Message-ID: <0b7b1b99-36cb-d22c-b2a2-84120f6f1359@baywinds.org> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 08:46:00 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:46:04 -0000 On 5/10/18 8:01 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día jueves, mayo 10, 2018 a las 09:38:16a. m. -0500, Valeri Galtsev escribió: > >> >> On 05/10/18 09:00, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> On Thursday, 10 May 2018 14:34:27 CEST, James B. Byrne >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 14:09, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>>> >>>> What is the ownership of and permissions on .Xauthority on the remote >>>> host? >>>> >>> It's owned by me, created as new if not there, but with size=0. >> Did you check that you are not up against hard quota, and the filesystem >> is not full? I already suggested that, but my message seems to miss your >> attention. One thing you can try on remote host is: > The remote host is one of our central development hosts, has not quota, > no file sys full and plenty much GB of disk space: > > $ scp /boot/kernel/kernel apitzm@s70devl:. > $ ssh apitzm@s70devl ls -lh kernel > -r-xr-xr-x 1 apitzm apitzm 26M 10. Mai 16:49 kernel > $ ssh apitzm@s70devl LANG=C df -kh . > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/vg_root-lv_root 337G 68G 268G 21% / > >> Another possibility on multi-user system when this works for others but >> not for you is if you as UNIX user is prohibited [X]-forwarding by >> sysadmin (-"fascist"). I as sysadmin only twice during last decade had >> to restrict one single user from doing something, but it still is the >> possibility. > I don't think, that our IT department does such things against the Tech Head > I am :-) > > I do thank for all replies, but have to say, that all ignored the provided > truss output (at least in all replies). Here it is again and shows that > there is a LOCAL problem; the LOCAL /usr/local/bin/xauth tries to > create the LOCAL file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile (perhaps to move it over > the SSH channel to the remote end) and it fails doing this: > > $ grep xauth ssh.tr > 2505: stat("/usr/local/bin/xauth",{ mode=-rwxr-xr-x ,inode=15268663,size=41056,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 2505: write(2,"debug2: client_x11_get_proto: /usr/local/bin/xauth -f /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1260 2>/dev/null\r\n",153) = 153 (0x99) > 2506: execve("/usr/local/bin/xauth",0x80145a260,0x80145a408) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: stat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",0x7fffffffdb80) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0600) = 3 (0x3) > 2506: pathconf("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",_PC_LINK_MAX) = 32767 (0x7fff) > 2506: link("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) > 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: open("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile does not exist\n",75) = 75 (0x4b) > 2506: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) = 4 (0x4) > 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) = 33 (0x21) > 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=24961,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c") = 0 (0x0) > 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=24961,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) > 2505: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2505: write(2,"Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated\r\n",78) = 78 (0x4e) > > $ grep Sec ssh.tr > 2505: read(3,"\0\0\^A\^D\v\^_\0\0\0h\0\0\0\^Secdsa-sha2-nistp256\0\0\0\bnistp256\0\0\0A\^D\^Qa 2506: write(2,"couldn't query Security extension on display ":0"\n",50) = 50 (0x32) > > One can simulate the xauth call locally and without redirecting STDERR and > will see the same error: > > $ /usr/local/bin/xauth -f /tmp/xauthfile generate :0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 untrusted timeout 1260 > /usr/local/bin/xauth: file /tmp/xauthfile does not exist > /usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: couldn't query Security extension on display ":0" > > This, and the fact that my colleagues do not face the problem, let me > strongly think in a LOCAL problem, maybe of the Xorg server which is xorg-7.7_2 > from the ports. > > Thanks again for reading my post. > > matthias Matthias, I think this output is key: couldn't query Security extension on display ":0" xauth (at the sshd end) is attempting to interrogate the X server on the ssh end and not getting an expected response, and as a result failing to generate the necessary entries in the file xauth file. searching the error on google found this: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/de.comp.os.unix.x11/44yHbl-RP_8 It has a nice step-by-step of what and how xauth is doing it's magic Its the X server at the ssh end (your end).  I suspect you'll find your colleagues are using a somewhat different X server and that explains the difference in your operation vs yours... And that corresponds to your comment about the Xorg server. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 15:58:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B725FFCE8D5 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.posteo.de", Issuer "StartCom Class 3 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 358EE7A62D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89A8E20C0C for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:58:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 40hdDw55Smz9rxX for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:58:40 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org Subject: Re: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: Wes Frazier Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=wes.frazier@members.fsf.org; keydata= xsBNBFnkGS8BCADFsuOK5MoYG9ngr5avBVEZ3M2YWFYqhFnrnegeC6gFP7CEEEhFlAlGFRJa 2lomWr9vkG19OpxtbiJVnXfmgquN5niDm3rx00So2EmpspHIp8/mOFE7Gx8tupQcOU6kVt4A 7i3U4KF+E1adev2BzVTxLOJPoaKRsA+puHdPH8jZ1a3y0YEtvLF8UUKiSEsECrjk30fQVKEl pGwNZUk5T30zWQWEIJXdYSviCbJmbzbf8DUQbHAxfcADYbMPm83XIOo14YbBjym8owNP1zhF M8ZOOxI0tQSh8Y+5U9Yn7pCm4FbIflLAIfV2dpoqeLgjQjOUDna+bo0HaWDt1bQQtUczABEB AAHNKVdlcyBGcmF6aWVyIDx3ZXMuZnJhemllckBtZW1iZXJzLmZzZi5vcmc+wsB/BBMBCAAp BQJZ5BkvAhsDBQkCky4ABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQFO57iiyrSi6Q KAf+Pv/4HBh7Pk/NpjwaxdwK4Sxd4kO54VwcEcNmeGKMLPqD3ctDslETRBPyzA5Uvyckn5cE 6B8CbNKPEzpRRgr0kDHT5lzoHFaaubnl5ncYe419HMs8Dk3PXpwkjZ8KMotzJFvNVaaZ7Q7X B+r4godvMkDIZAz9GDBbyHKeK/1yqWQgquWJ7vxf2wSWWE6NqqENgcXQNUp54Ay4H+r3qEhT E72xbKFycmZ9idB7bzIKaf801M3AnbiUlvLcMXenFORtqhWXFYJqv/N/io9DN0nQfBpr9Fyc h50MNG4yVw/5jAtlnr6pXbTHPfAzp3/mv1NsrpLR6cRhXU5PW+jqyqLM7M7ATQRZ5BkvAQgA vIxBTKdST8TjalLJ45i2VO6x6FiTuS7FNwhlWinbmLrVqBOyuMU7Foxbps0BSjSY0+6tGUfJ bUdnbZ4EzzrVT1lPpj86vv4ukj9n7XzggAZJopzTj66ghqmiUfrZu5K5ClQUtosxYiUtIO7z 1BRf1xC5UNmqFEWxafEk81AVr6Us9J7BbyW4SdMh2ReHF+zgSs1CSzjobCZ/sA4v5uYp1hiq V08ZLawLIQoKQQFDorwMDPuX0ZL2O6ux2pX9tI04pGem2JVfQwxgfoE1Tj47MIvftmlzJ5uC O1y9zpkPjw00AngJgHKaIb0Xe6z4dJKotbAygB2tD/EM+2QJfBZ7aQARAQABwsBlBBgBCAAP BQJZ5BkvAhsMBQkCky4AAAoJEBTue4osq0ou3+8IAI/lD29qvdz2qmN0O68h9sE3r7qaqTpq 9LNgNIeTEJ7H6EfO9xU7TnPrBEm49V7fBJZLhkpyhA1XDwXPFgnQU+1dln9zGmm5qRySY71y zVvttW0k9FffhqvJy8yekcBHi8LIJVGV+FhrNixICs0zzPquWKtlcTSYQt80zuLND6XQYHb+ 7nq80Ij2h9e1b3sZ34Ceo0fjvIogieVXdmrg6K/fWKZ+yKOx0LBI60wB9pzb0T7WjuO0svxt lq3NfAji6+fadgIyWCDPx0aJx0/+LXvxkK0+1c4E9KjqmEfRSR1fdwasqLN43eD7x465JIIv DaE+1+8RUdzR93Ym3iKR3/Y= Message-ID: <8063cd27-1d87-2c3e-8eab-920301338882@members.fsf.org> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 11:58:28 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Vi46R4QkufQMZTeivW7paIKKpUJTs5j26" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:58:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Vi46R4QkufQMZTeivW7paIKKpUJTs5j26 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="iliiTWdqIbNRrVlJ8CIb6dVvGkcZ6sRWH"; protected-headers="v1" From: Wes Frazier Reply-To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8063cd27-1d87-2c3e-8eab-920301338882@members.fsf.org> Subject: Re: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. References: In-Reply-To: --iliiTWdqIbNRrVlJ8CIb6dVvGkcZ6sRWH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1980E71C8D26AC365ECE8679" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1980E71C8D26AC365ECE8679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe I didn't explain myself fully. The binary package doesn't behave as expected. Something about the default CFLAGS it is being built with, has an unexpected result, and the interactive Guile command prompt never loads. You can see this yourself. If you execute the current binary package you get a black area where a guile interpreter prompt should be, but there is none. Expected behavior is to be greeted by "guile>" (Screenshot of both behaviors attached.) Thats why I started investigating rebuilding it to begin with. Rebuilding it with different CFLAGS corrects the issue. Though reading more FreeBSD documentation this shouldn't be patched in the FreeBSD ports makefile like I have done. Though im not sure what the propper fix is, to exclude a specific port from a global CFLAG. - Wes On 05/10/18 11:05, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Why not start with the package and see if that doesn't suit your needs?= >=20 > gnurobots-1.2.0_12 GNU diversion wherein Scheme-coded robot= s > explore a world >=20 >=20 > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Wes Frazier > wrote: >=20 >> Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. >> >> games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected= =2E >> It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU >> Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. >> >> I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefi= le >> was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. >> >> I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the >> best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to ge= t >> a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) >> >> Advice appreciated. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >=20 >=20 --=20 --- This email is digitally signed with GnuPG. 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To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 16:58:19 -0000 Ah, okay. Send a message to the maintainer of the port. On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Wes Frazier wrote: > Maybe I didn't explain myself fully. The binary package doesn't behave > as expected. Something about the default CFLAGS it is being built with, > has an unexpected result, and the interactive Guile command prompt never > loads. > > You can see this yourself. If you execute the current binary package you > get a black area where a guile interpreter prompt should be, but there > is none. Expected behavior is to be greeted by "guile>" (Screenshot of > both behaviors attached.) > > Thats why I started investigating rebuilding it to begin with. > Rebuilding it with different CFLAGS corrects the issue. > > Though reading more FreeBSD documentation this shouldn't be patched in > the FreeBSD ports makefile like I have done. Though im not sure what the > propper fix is, to exclude a specific port from a global CFLAG. > > - Wes > > On 05/10/18 11:05, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > Why not start with the package and see if that doesn't suit your needs? > > > > gnurobots-1.2.0_12 GNU diversion wherein Scheme-coded robot= s > > explore a world > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Wes Frazier > > > wrote: > > > >> Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. > >> > >> games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected= . > >> It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU > >> Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. > >> > >> I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefi= le > >> was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. > >> > >> I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the > >> best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to ge= t > >> a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) > >> > >> Advice appreciated. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > --- > This email is digitally signed with GnuPG. > Please consider using GnuPG too to protect this > conversation from passive corporate surveillance. > > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org > --=20 "Well," Brahma said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 17:27:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0285FD12BF for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (mail.dpedia.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38D7C6F65D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.102.219] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGpLi-0001my-Oq; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:27:26 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id w4AHROu9003948 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 May 2018 19:27:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id w4AHRNBO003947; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:27:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:27:23 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Bruce Ferrell Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180510172723.GA3877@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Ferrell , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> <0b7b1b99-36cb-d22c-b2a2-84120f6f1359@baywinds.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0b7b1b99-36cb-d22c-b2a2-84120f6f1359@baywinds.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.102.219 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 17:27:32 -0000 --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa jueves, mayo 10, 2018 a las 08:46:00a. m. -0700, Bruce Ferrell = escribi=C3=B3: > I think this output is key: >=20 > couldn't query Security extension on display ":0" Yes, I agree. > xauth (at the sshd end) is attempting to interrogate the X server on the= =20 > ssh end and not getting an expected response, and as a result failing to= =20 > generate the necessary entries in the file xauth file. No. I straced the remote sshd while I ssh'ed into the server. On the remote= side there is no xauth called: $ grep exec sshd.tr 1369 execve("/usr/sbin/sshd", ["/usr/sbin/sshd", "-D", "-R"], [/* 3 vars *= /] 1369 <... execve resumed> ) =3D 0 1373 execve("/bin/bash", ["-bash"], [/* 12 vars */]) =3D 0 1375 execve("/usr/bin/readlink", ["readlink", "/proc/1373/exe"], [/* 15 va= rs */]) =3D 0 1377 execve("/usr/bin/tty", ["tty"], [/* 15 vars */]) =3D 0 1379 execve("/bin/uname", ["/bin/uname", "-n"], [/* 16 vars */]) =3D 0 1381 execve("/bin/uname", ["/bin/uname", "-m"], [/* 16 vars */]) =3D 0 1383 execve("/usr/bin/manpath", ["/usr/bin/manpath", "-q"], [/* 32 vars */= ]) =3D 0 1385 execve("/usr/bin/ls", ["ls", "/etc/bash_completion.d"], [/* 38 vars *= /]) =3D 0 1387 execve("/usr/bin/tty", ["tty"], [/* 43 vars */]) =3D 0 1391 execve("/usr/bin/sed", ["sed", "-r", "s@/*:|([^\\\\]):@\\1\\n@g;H;x;s= @/\\n@"...], [/* 48 vars */]) =3D 0 1395 execve("/usr/bin/sed", ["sed", "-r", "s@/*:|([^\\\\]):@\\1\\n@g;H;x;s= @/\\n@"...], [/* 49 vars */]) =3D 0 1397 execve("/usr/bin/dircolors", ["/usr/bin/dircolors", "-b", "/etc/DIR_C= OLORS"], [/* 53 vars */]) =3D 0 1399 execve("/usr/bin/tput", ["/usr/bin/tput", "hs"], [/* 55 vars */]) =3D= 0 1401 execve("/usr/bin/tput", ["/usr/bin/tput", "tsl"], [/* 55 vars */]) = =3D 0 1403 execve("/usr/bin/tput", ["/usr/bin/tput", "fsl"], [/* 55 vars */]) = =3D 0 1405 execve("/usr/bin/tput", ["tput", "sc"], [/* 55 vars */]) =3D 0 1407 execve("/usr/bin/tput", ["tput", "rc"], [/* 55 vars */]) =3D 0 1410 execve("/usr/bin/tty", ["tty"], [/* 55 vars */]) =3D 0 $ grep xauth sshd.tr $=20 The problem is LOCAL on FreeBSD. (Btw: my colleagues use Ubuntu and do not have this problem.) I will move this thread to freebsd-x11@ because it has more todo with X11 t= han with the ssh client. matthias --=20 Matthias Apitz, =E2=9C=89 guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176= -38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub May, 9: =D0=A1=D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8=CC=81=D0=B1=D0=BE =D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B2= =D0=BE=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=B8=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=B8! 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But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better suited. I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support for 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install 12 afresh when it becomes available later this year. But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support period is increased to 3 years per release. Does this sound like a good request to others too ? -- Tx and Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 18:40:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5D3FD2F1C for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x231.google.com (mail-ua0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29D5F7E2E8 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi.sergio@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x231.google.com with SMTP id j5-v6so1964975uak.12 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FrmamzZGIfzoeg+JdfAl+oC1DS5armjCQDcr7mWWAiI=; b=WprRl3UdouCHlMRzzzxtIqG3GJCozhtWp1ANRNb2eRiIBMhyXMoR/jUie5V5/5yXEx sE3bshJM5NndtJA+pkrH2GnuC6Fy4JhUDVvuDSMYmGZFuuHHgsY8Cnj2YfnPxEHV6ZlJ pFkUJIEvYWhdcacH/porlLsVqpDw4NoBcwzAUNoJVy1QqqjiY480r22OfNmjTc9DNbH8 iRl4h5RWxGq/C3vt9UZSEbpMhXkPwKv30Z6jzkh5qlFi0QpzHFDvqqq+nqlPNbiS2fWQ JQaGqZ8+8pqmLahz1iHk+bqjvMqHoCEPSTu8DLo25fZ5p5evyyvmgtfNOq8I6Hie9xOE ah3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=FrmamzZGIfzoeg+JdfAl+oC1DS5armjCQDcr7mWWAiI=; b=HmakIwG3dxACApnNzyEK8oYfJ7yJdBfSAGcUtllpH9gOXu5Nw/NEW+FQN2Gz2rQVVY 85JXTz5yWJr6AWuWglIO2n98kfm8uX/JNF5EURUsIT3VhxE94VvYuz4aHDzItPRbj4Hr UMOnFQGYYszeKJMx2+ngeVneDc3Gh7deLTYgdpMgqK0LZK3aSuM07k6bR1KcorZa7sQu fn1m0P+BYqWOL8T5fUvOTuEgxWw7DrpDkbAXSetcbbfYOyQNu2J32XP1ERA8lLs9K94w g0UdPd/rH4qV8P4IbdrsGikOQbCMzxnXll2rlFJnQVzAH7SDrlsrRfXWMslrNtH1Pgyl XZZg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcWzUUBI7lFLV9M0OWPopUu898rao8tT1NnVfvSYeuMbIbotCgq cRsOPPUajHsnNsmxwI6KvxlLhF9riDR4qNVNOJFS8g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZos4G0f15G3Nwz3wjm5MG7CSQq50h/RXL9TG4HYYhYi8vOP4wda6Ao6tHFs1kGoytqZJzqEtCCfwPA979m0E1g= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:45b5:: with SMTP id u50-v6mr1893203uau.170.1525977632951; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.143.196 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2018 11:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: sergio lenzi Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:40:29 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:40:34 -0000 Well, you can always go back to the reliable gnome2 now AKA mate you can use our "distribution" with more than 1800 packages for amd64, freebsd-10 (we will move to 12 when it is done) this "packages" are used for more than 500 users and have all a "normal" user needs you can list the packages using your "browser" too at: ftp://dist64.k1.com.br/FreeBSD there you can find a 32 bit packags for FreeBSD12 too to update, just use pkg upgrade just create a file in /etc/pkg named mate.conf.... =========================================== MATE64: { url: ftp://dist64.k1.com.br/FreeBSD/${ABI}, enabled: yes } =========================================== and than pkg install -y mate if you need more, than.... pkg install -y mate-full Enjoy From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 18:42:31 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0223CFD3138 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.posteo.de", Issuer "StartCom Class 3 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CDF07E6EC for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3C1720ECB for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:42:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 40hhsv1Lttz9rxM for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org Subject: Re: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8063cd27-1d87-2c3e-8eab-920301338882@members.fsf.org> From: Wes Frazier Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=wes.frazier@members.fsf.org; keydata= xsBNBFnkGS8BCADFsuOK5MoYG9ngr5avBVEZ3M2YWFYqhFnrnegeC6gFP7CEEEhFlAlGFRJa 2lomWr9vkG19OpxtbiJVnXfmgquN5niDm3rx00So2EmpspHIp8/mOFE7Gx8tupQcOU6kVt4A 7i3U4KF+E1adev2BzVTxLOJPoaKRsA+puHdPH8jZ1a3y0YEtvLF8UUKiSEsECrjk30fQVKEl pGwNZUk5T30zWQWEIJXdYSviCbJmbzbf8DUQbHAxfcADYbMPm83XIOo14YbBjym8owNP1zhF M8ZOOxI0tQSh8Y+5U9Yn7pCm4FbIflLAIfV2dpoqeLgjQjOUDna+bo0HaWDt1bQQtUczABEB AAHNKVdlcyBGcmF6aWVyIDx3ZXMuZnJhemllckBtZW1iZXJzLmZzZi5vcmc+wsB/BBMBCAAp BQJZ5BkvAhsDBQkCky4ABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQFO57iiyrSi6Q KAf+Pv/4HBh7Pk/NpjwaxdwK4Sxd4kO54VwcEcNmeGKMLPqD3ctDslETRBPyzA5Uvyckn5cE 6B8CbNKPEzpRRgr0kDHT5lzoHFaaubnl5ncYe419HMs8Dk3PXpwkjZ8KMotzJFvNVaaZ7Q7X B+r4godvMkDIZAz9GDBbyHKeK/1yqWQgquWJ7vxf2wSWWE6NqqENgcXQNUp54Ay4H+r3qEhT E72xbKFycmZ9idB7bzIKaf801M3AnbiUlvLcMXenFORtqhWXFYJqv/N/io9DN0nQfBpr9Fyc h50MNG4yVw/5jAtlnr6pXbTHPfAzp3/mv1NsrpLR6cRhXU5PW+jqyqLM7M7ATQRZ5BkvAQgA vIxBTKdST8TjalLJ45i2VO6x6FiTuS7FNwhlWinbmLrVqBOyuMU7Foxbps0BSjSY0+6tGUfJ bUdnbZ4EzzrVT1lPpj86vv4ukj9n7XzggAZJopzTj66ghqmiUfrZu5K5ClQUtosxYiUtIO7z 1BRf1xC5UNmqFEWxafEk81AVr6Us9J7BbyW4SdMh2ReHF+zgSs1CSzjobCZ/sA4v5uYp1hiq V08ZLawLIQoKQQFDorwMDPuX0ZL2O6ux2pX9tI04pGem2JVfQwxgfoE1Tj47MIvftmlzJ5uC O1y9zpkPjw00AngJgHKaIb0Xe6z4dJKotbAygB2tD/EM+2QJfBZ7aQARAQABwsBlBBgBCAAP BQJZ5BkvAhsMBQkCky4AAAoJEBTue4osq0ou3+8IAI/lD29qvdz2qmN0O68h9sE3r7qaqTpq 9LNgNIeTEJ7H6EfO9xU7TnPrBEm49V7fBJZLhkpyhA1XDwXPFgnQU+1dln9zGmm5qRySY71y zVvttW0k9FffhqvJy8yekcBHi8LIJVGV+FhrNixICs0zzPquWKtlcTSYQt80zuLND6XQYHb+ 7nq80Ij2h9e1b3sZ34Ceo0fjvIogieVXdmrg6K/fWKZ+yKOx0LBI60wB9pzb0T7WjuO0svxt lq3NfAji6+fadgIyWCDPx0aJx0/+LXvxkK0+1c4E9KjqmEfRSR1fdwasqLN43eD7x465JIIv DaE+1+8RUdzR93Ym3iKR3/Y= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 14:42:25 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 18:42:31 -0000 As I tried to indicate in my first message the port has no current maintainer. Though I suspect the fix is small, as it does build and run correctly with tweaked cflags. - Wes On 05/10/18 12:58, Michael Sierchio wrote: > Ah, okay. Send a message to the maintainer of the port. > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Wes Frazier > wrote: > >> Maybe I didn't explain myself fully. The binary package doesn't behave >> as expected. Something about the default CFLAGS it is being built with, >> has an unexpected result, and the interactive Guile command prompt never >> loads. >> >> You can see this yourself. If you execute the current binary package you >> get a black area where a guile interpreter prompt should be, but there >> is none. Expected behavior is to be greeted by "guile>" (Screenshot of >> both behaviors attached.) >> >> Thats why I started investigating rebuilding it to begin with. >> Rebuilding it with different CFLAGS corrects the issue. >> >> Though reading more FreeBSD documentation this shouldn't be patched in >> the FreeBSD ports makefile like I have done. Though im not sure what the >> propper fix is, to exclude a specific port from a global CFLAG. >> >> - Wes >> >> On 05/10/18 11:05, Michael Sierchio wrote: >>> Why not start with the package and see if that doesn't suit your needs? >>> >>> gnurobots-1.2.0_12 GNU diversion wherein Scheme-coded robots >>> explore a world >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Wes Frazier >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. >>>> >>>> games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected. >>>> It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU >>>> Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. >>>> >>>> I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefile >>>> was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. >>>> >>>> I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the >>>> best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to get >>>> a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) >>>> >>>> Advice appreciated. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> --- >> This email is digitally signed with GnuPG. >> Please consider using GnuPG too to protect this >> conversation from passive corporate surveillance. >> >> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 19:42:03 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C05FD4809 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: from dot.t41t.com (dot.t41t.com [159.203.61.223]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "digitalocean", Issuer "digitalocean" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94A3E6B2E9 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: from dot.t41t.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dot.t41t.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w4AJedRH081780 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:40:40 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) Received: (from tait@localhost) by dot.t41t.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w4AJec7n081779 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:40:38 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@t41t.com) X-Authentication-Warning: dot.t41t.com: tait set sender to freebsd@t41t.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:40:38 +0000 From: FBUser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180510194038.GE26824@dot.t41t.com> References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 19:42:03 -0000 Matthias Apitz said (on 2018/05/10): > I do thank for all replies, but have to say, that all ignored the provided > truss output (at least in all replies). Here it is again and shows that > there is a LOCAL problem; the LOCAL /usr/local/bin/xauth tries to > create the LOCAL file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile (perhaps to move it over > the SSH channel to the remote end) and it fails doing this: To the contrary... > 2506: openat(AT_FDCWD,"/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0600) = 3 (0x3) A different file was created. > 2506: link("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c","/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) A link to that file was successfully created. > 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: open("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",O_RDONLY,0666) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: access("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile",F_OK) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' > 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: file /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile does not exist\n",75) = 75 (0x4b) The file didn't exist, it couldn't be read, and it still didn't exist. Then log a complaint. Nothing ever tried to create the file in question. > 2506: access("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",R_OK) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: open("/tmp/kde-guru/xauth-1001-_0",O_RDONLY,0666) = 4 (0x4) > 2506: write(2,"/usr/local/bin/xauth: (argv):1: ",33) = 33 (0x21) Some KDE-specific file was opened for read... > 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=24961,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-c") = 0 (0x0) > 2506: lstat("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l",{ mode=-rw------- ,inode=24961,size=0,blksize=32768 }) = 0 (0x0) > 2506: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile-l") = 0 (0x0) > 2505: unlink("/tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile") ERR#2 'No such file or directory' And after finding the KDE file, the files and links created earlier are discarded. If I were to try something, I'd suggest killing KDE, logging in from the console, and then seeing if you still have the same problem. (Or looking at xauth's source for what it's doing with KDE, and when /tmp/ssh-adSkh4btDHWr/xauthfile was supposed to have been opened with O_CREAT, and why it might not have been.) From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 20:17:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5053BFD59DA for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D79C375E1D for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGs0J-0006bc-RI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 22:17:32 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fGs0J-0008J9-PL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 22:17:31 +0200 Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 22:17:31 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180510201731.GA31313@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> <20180510194038.GE26824@dot.t41t.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180510194038.GE26824@dot.t41t.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 20:17:34 -0000 The answers in https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2018-May/021032.html move us now to the source of the problem and its solution. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 20:22:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC690FD5CD3 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from mout01.posteo.de (mout01.posteo.de [185.67.36.141]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.posteo.de", Issuer "StartCom Class 3 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50BDB763D0 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wes.frazier@members.fsf.org) Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C17120B94 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 22:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 40hl5N38ykz9rxP for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 22:22:32 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: wes.frazier@members.fsf.org Subject: Re: Possible patch for games/gnurobots but don't know what to do next. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8063cd27-1d87-2c3e-8eab-920301338882@members.fsf.org> From: Wes Frazier Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=wes.frazier@members.fsf.org; keydata= xsBNBFnkGS8BCADFsuOK5MoYG9ngr5avBVEZ3M2YWFYqhFnrnegeC6gFP7CEEEhFlAlGFRJa 2lomWr9vkG19OpxtbiJVnXfmgquN5niDm3rx00So2EmpspHIp8/mOFE7Gx8tupQcOU6kVt4A 7i3U4KF+E1adev2BzVTxLOJPoaKRsA+puHdPH8jZ1a3y0YEtvLF8UUKiSEsECrjk30fQVKEl pGwNZUk5T30zWQWEIJXdYSviCbJmbzbf8DUQbHAxfcADYbMPm83XIOo14YbBjym8owNP1zhF M8ZOOxI0tQSh8Y+5U9Yn7pCm4FbIflLAIfV2dpoqeLgjQjOUDna+bo0HaWDt1bQQtUczABEB AAHNKVdlcyBGcmF6aWVyIDx3ZXMuZnJhemllckBtZW1iZXJzLmZzZi5vcmc+wsB/BBMBCAAp BQJZ5BkvAhsDBQkCky4ABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQFO57iiyrSi6Q KAf+Pv/4HBh7Pk/NpjwaxdwK4Sxd4kO54VwcEcNmeGKMLPqD3ctDslETRBPyzA5Uvyckn5cE 6B8CbNKPEzpRRgr0kDHT5lzoHFaaubnl5ncYe419HMs8Dk3PXpwkjZ8KMotzJFvNVaaZ7Q7X B+r4godvMkDIZAz9GDBbyHKeK/1yqWQgquWJ7vxf2wSWWE6NqqENgcXQNUp54Ay4H+r3qEhT E72xbKFycmZ9idB7bzIKaf801M3AnbiUlvLcMXenFORtqhWXFYJqv/N/io9DN0nQfBpr9Fyc h50MNG4yVw/5jAtlnr6pXbTHPfAzp3/mv1NsrpLR6cRhXU5PW+jqyqLM7M7ATQRZ5BkvAQgA vIxBTKdST8TjalLJ45i2VO6x6FiTuS7FNwhlWinbmLrVqBOyuMU7Foxbps0BSjSY0+6tGUfJ bUdnbZ4EzzrVT1lPpj86vv4ukj9n7XzggAZJopzTj66ghqmiUfrZu5K5ClQUtosxYiUtIO7z 1BRf1xC5UNmqFEWxafEk81AVr6Us9J7BbyW4SdMh2ReHF+zgSs1CSzjobCZ/sA4v5uYp1hiq V08ZLawLIQoKQQFDorwMDPuX0ZL2O6ux2pX9tI04pGem2JVfQwxgfoE1Tj47MIvftmlzJ5uC O1y9zpkPjw00AngJgHKaIb0Xe6z4dJKotbAygB2tD/EM+2QJfBZ7aQARAQABwsBlBBgBCAAP BQJZ5BkvAhsMBQkCky4AAAoJEBTue4osq0ou3+8IAI/lD29qvdz2qmN0O68h9sE3r7qaqTpq 9LNgNIeTEJ7H6EfO9xU7TnPrBEm49V7fBJZLhkpyhA1XDwXPFgnQU+1dln9zGmm5qRySY71y zVvttW0k9FffhqvJy8yekcBHi8LIJVGV+FhrNixICs0zzPquWKtlcTSYQt80zuLND6XQYHb+ 7nq80Ij2h9e1b3sZ34Ceo0fjvIogieVXdmrg6K/fWKZ+yKOx0LBI60wB9pzb0T7WjuO0svxt lq3NfAji6+fadgIyWCDPx0aJx0/+LXvxkK0+1c4E9KjqmEfRSR1fdwasqLN43eD7x465JIIv DaE+1+8RUdzR93Ym3iKR3/Y= Message-ID: <8ee4c749-fe60-2129-8a68-d5c861980705@members.fsf.org> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 16:22:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 20:22:37 -0000 I've submitted what I suspect is a better patch to the ports bugzilla. Hopefully that will do it. - Wes On 05/10/18 14:42, Wes Frazier wrote: > As I tried to indicate in my first message the port has no current > maintainer. Though I suspect the fix is small, as it does build and run > correctly with tweaked cflags. > > - Wes > > On 05/10/18 12:58, Michael Sierchio wrote: >> Ah, okay. Send a message to the maintainer of the port. >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Wes Frazier >> wrote: >> >>> Maybe I didn't explain myself fully. The binary package doesn't behave >>> as expected. Something about the default CFLAGS it is being built with, >>> has an unexpected result, and the interactive Guile command prompt never >>> loads. >>> >>> You can see this yourself. If you execute the current binary package you >>> get a black area where a guile interpreter prompt should be, but there >>> is none. Expected behavior is to be greeted by "guile>" (Screenshot of >>> both behaviors attached.) >>> >>> Thats why I started investigating rebuilding it to begin with. >>> Rebuilding it with different CFLAGS corrects the issue. >>> >>> Though reading more FreeBSD documentation this shouldn't be patched in >>> the FreeBSD ports makefile like I have done. Though im not sure what the >>> propper fix is, to exclude a specific port from a global CFLAG. >>> >>> - Wes >>> >>> On 05/10/18 11:05, Michael Sierchio wrote: >>>> Why not start with the package and see if that doesn't suit your needs? >>>> >>>> gnurobots-1.2.0_12 GNU diversion wherein Scheme-coded robots >>>> explore a world >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Wes Frazier >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Im less than a month in, with using FreeBSD. >>>>> >>>>> games/gnurobots in the ports tree doesn't appear to behave as expected. >>>>> It builds and executes but doesn't actually correctly spawn the GNU >>>>> Guile interactive command prompt like it is supposed to. >>>>> >>>>> I've been able to correct it, simply by changing how the port's Makefile >>>>> was tweaking the CFLAGS manually in the package's build system. >>>>> >>>>> I have attached the patch. I however, do not know if this is the >>>>> best/correct way to fix this issue, nor do I know who to contact to get >>>>> a fix integrated into ports. (gnurobots is without maintainer.) >>>>> >>>>> Advice appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >>>>> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> This email is digitally signed with GnuPG. >>> Please consider using GnuPG too to protect this >>> conversation from passive corporate surveillance. >>> >>> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 10 20:23:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6E0FD5D7C for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE85176594 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 20:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DC4718084 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> <20180510194038.GE26824@dot.t41t.com> <20180510201731.GA31313@sh4-5.1blu.de> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:23:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180510201731.GA31313@sh4-5.1blu.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 20:23:39 -0000 On 05/10/18 15:17, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > The answers in https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2018-May/021032.html > move us now to the source of the problem and its solution. Forward X trusted, huh (ssh -Y ...). I do try it if "ssh -X ..." doesn't work, and it never occurred to me to ask/mention when answering on this thread... Thanks for posting! Valeri > > matthias > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 01:02:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77373FADF81 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 01:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x233.google.com (mail-io0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B4AC77067 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 01:02:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x233.google.com with SMTP id p124-v6so5209412iod.1 for ; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:02:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/yS/r9JVkmF4dQ8ukkedt8cLA+uDhQmhkLHRg/FQuDQ=; b=KeNG+4Cpq/3yBR/iI5ocFGJvOAYebZdqpTKDez2JTBdDFGrTP3HgiVX8xLYvCYmBx7 OVXYKEGk1nI9Lml8AeH8qSNigOVIDrlEIAXuH+lfkGq1dHNNWD1qOOL+Yc3G0Y9+zGXb RkMTD6u05G2vj2HjyctEPgcd33HFOXJsk5PwIF5eFhfxU2b5MIUbQZEZLmePMm/EHRAJ gBvdaJwzUhaBJyuOpNKSNxqUeueV3gr6LG1jNwKwQ/AEwO3IhhBeK4WqHfFxYa9qE3ia q1Cy9PVsfkw+q0CmjA5fp0eSp4jFPoUjgzER3OUrJhXndi6iL7jIJcBjbmNbu7WKct7q qjDA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/yS/r9JVkmF4dQ8ukkedt8cLA+uDhQmhkLHRg/FQuDQ=; b=P9hRmGKd/MYB28Ot4OIPIHOH/Kr3VKztVlO7fAG4vP+uV1wF1lDKgY6ZGO+sTtxsz2 RyZa4Whnoi60pETmEYPk/9HvQJTQXGin6+62ey4U+IBLCTqcYxJhCrbbfjZMEdZU5q40 7puDvj/61tvR/awjGNwiWCzc2fSH14Cf8olkgaNPAEgk5v0x596MOCCiw718WhxH6vSq mYsEZo/OTntgHkDel09hdxB5uC0SgXYqqbMpxA9DwfcCibg+gOcSG9i87sotk1S69aH8 YQxgOagRGgXJxp+sE9yL3EDa1ovTl2oza3vP6o9AdDlOiqRrFzFfR8w+2gf+pLK4SWtL XXIw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdDbs/d7JLtgJnOSFn78teCB4pRmGm1becCq4LJ8c12U7aZ5QRi /2SGhTpjbwOwF3tTkJGqedzr4w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZpg4dY/wRTBf1dync+YAqmimSmamkCOGCo/BXQXUfcShWMzWzzFrvkdSCqrCNwzNQ+MgceILw== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:34c3:: with SMTP id b186-v6mr3953709ioa.194.1526000575468; Thu, 10 May 2018 18:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v127-v6sm364856itc.3.2018.05.10.18.02.54 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 May 2018 18:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5AF4EBBE.8080809@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 21:02:54 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= CC: freebsd Subject: Re: How to hide boot console message. References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> <7195A6DB-B366-4334-8917-6565BCDC7FF8@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <7195A6DB-B366-4334-8917-6565BCDC7FF8@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 01:02:56 -0000 李周华 wrote: > Luzar, thanks for you quickly and kindly reply 😄. > > Just now i download and add a .bmp image under /boot and add some lines > in /boot/loader.conf . > now it content is that: > > boot_mute="YES" > verbose_loading="NO" > beastie_disable="YES" > autoboot_delay="-1" > #kern.vty=vt > #hw.vga.textmode=1 > i915kms_load="YES" > #kern.vt.fb.default_mode="1280x800" > fuse_load="YES" > snd_hda_load="YES" > splash_bmp_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > bitmap_name="/boot/splash.bmp" > I see your problem now that you gave more details. Splash screen only works with non-vt console screens. There is a bug report about this problem. You need vt because you are running a desktop. There is no way to jump between vt and sc console screen types after the OS is booted. This is a known problem since 11.0 when vt became the default console screen driver. Unless someone else jumps in with another solution I would say you have reached the end of the road about your desire to kill all boot messages. You said /boot/loader.conf defaulting to vt boot_mute="YES" verbose_loading="NO" beastie_disable="YES" autoboot_delay="-1" kills all the boot messages except some networking messages. If this is so then submit a PR about this to get those messages to abide with the boot_mute="YES" option setting. Good luck. 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From: =?utf-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15E302) In-reply-to: <5AF4EBBE.8080809@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:13:34 +0800 Cc: freebsd Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <2A1EAD5E-1777-4ADA-B633-EDE5DA429E55@icloud.com> References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> <7195A6DB-B366-4334-8917-6565BCDC7FF8@icloud.com> <5AF4EBBE.8080809@gmail.com> To: Ernie Luzar X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 04:14:20 -0000 Very thanks Luzar. May be I reached the end of the road. So be it, I disable the splash feature and allow few message show. By the way , where to submit a PR ? > On May 11, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Ernie Luzar wrote: >=20 > =E6=9D=8E=E5=91=A8=E5=8D=8E wrote: >> Luzar, thanks for you quickly and kindly reply =C3=B0=C5=B8=CB=9C=E2=80=9E= . >> Just now i download and add a .bmp image under /boot and add some lines i= n /boot/loader.conf . >> now it content is that: >> boot_mute=3D"YES" >> verbose_loading=3D"NO" >> beastie_disable=3D"YES" >> autoboot_delay=3D"-1" >> #kern.vty=3Dvt >> #hw.vga.textmode=3D1 >> i915kms_load=3D"YES" >> #kern.vt.fb.default_mode=3D"1280x800" >> fuse_load=3D"YES" >> snd_hda_load=3D"YES" >> splash_bmp_load=3D"YES" >> bitmap_load=3D"YES" >> bitmap_name=3D"/boot/splash.bmp" >=20 >=20 >=20 > I see your problem now that you gave more details. Splash screen only work= s with non-vt console screens. There is a bug report about this problem. >=20 > You need vt because you are running a desktop. There is no way to jump bet= ween vt and sc console screen types after the OS is booted. This is a known p= roblem since 11.0 when vt became the default console screen driver. >=20 > Unless someone else jumps in with another solution I would say you have re= ached the end of the road about your desire to kill all boot messages. >=20 > You said /boot/loader.conf defaulting to vt >=20 > boot_mute=3D"YES" > verbose_loading=3D"NO" > beastie_disable=3D"YES" > autoboot_delay=3D"-1" >=20 > kills all the boot messages except some networking messages. If this is so= then submit a PR about this to get those messages to abide with the boot_mu= te=3D"YES" option setting. >=20 > Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 06:40:07 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89703FB95C8 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 06:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 269FB84782 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 06:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fH1il-0000YD-Gq; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:40:03 +0200 Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fH1il-000439-Bg; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:40:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:40:03 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh -X remote does not work due to problem with xauth Message-ID: <20180511064003.GA11062@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <587e3b37-c5c7-4af2-80e2-f7c040a4d221@unixarea.de> <7edbad31-8ac8-9c27-2536-9a9a37a579b6@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180510150154.GA2699@c720-r314251> <20180510194038.GE26824@dot.t41t.com> <20180510201731.GA31313@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20180510201731.GA31313@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 06:40:07 -0000 I recompiled the port x11-servers/xorg-server with adding "--enable-xcsecurity" to the CONFIGURE_ARGS in the Makefile and now all is fine: $ ssh -X apitzm@s70devl Last login: Thu May 10 19:13:18 2018 from 10.49.94.187 /usr/bin/xauth: file /home/apitzm/.Xauthority does not exist apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 apitzm@srap16dxr1:~> xclock There was already a PR filed about this issue in https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=221984 And, last word, as I suspected and proofed from the beginning: the problem was fully LOCAL in our beloved FreeBSD. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ 📱 +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 07:09:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3049FC365B for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 764016AA93 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1526022556; x=1528614556; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=VXR7gjdVNd8M3GKo5ql1JneAl/0diy7Brcw7IfcElFI=; b=F7q1yeIn7CLsLhX6ZC0xPP9UsLk5P+MDheWYrdilqVMK6ZHhGIhxbvP/17MsmPls1LYtZQr//LuT+iU2YhaRfUhPp3GjjWNVFq7QHtFDUBK2nWjWRmA3Xu1G7gNF1g6cUVeDHRdFz9lMtuFty/9Fyd1lP2CsfWrwRwoSukY4dII= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi45YTAwMDAwMDBlNGNlYS5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 03:09:03 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 03:08:52 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fH2Ac-000Cqt-Mp; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:08:50 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:08:50 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Manish Jain Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Message-Id: <20180511080850.0e81db3461e08f5860e0e8b7@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 07:09:14 -0000 On Thu, 10 May 2018 23:45:02 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that > FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support > period is increased to 3 years per release. > > Does this sound like a good request to others too ? To be completely honest I would prefer that the development and release engineering teams run at a cadence that suits them (which AFAIK they do). I've never needed to re-install just to move up a major version bump, I do wipe the packages and re-install them but that's not too painful. I usually jump versions around the n.1 release upgrading in reverse order of importance since it's a home setup with no staging environment to test in. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 07:12:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4245AFC3904 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB55F6B725 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:12:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCE7106AF; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:11:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: Manish Jain , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:11:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 07:12:04 -0000 On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request to. > But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better suited. > > I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support for > 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install 12 > afresh when it becomes available later this year. > > But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that > FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support > period is increased to 3 years per release. > > Does this sound like a good request to others too ? > The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html In particular - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release. During this three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will still be issued for the previous release, as necessary. Why not simply update to 10.4? -- An amusing coincidence: log2(58) = 5.858 (to 0.0003% accuracy). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 07:38:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF29FC5905 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=xsff=h6=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from venus.codepro.be (venus.codepro.be [IPv6:2a01:4f8:162:1127::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.codepro.be", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA 2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4999B72E45 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from srs0=xsff=h6=sigsegv.be=kristof@codepro.be) Received: from [172.28.128.1] (ptr-8ripyyhomgmijpeng5n.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be [IPv6:2a02:1811:2419:4e02:d812:1d84:d096:338b]) (Authenticated sender: kp) by venus.codepro.be (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F8622E93E; Fri, 11 May 2018 09:38:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sigsegv.be; s=mail; t=1526024309; bh=IEHdnN2erNdNykicbiuiimZbUia6T155bdPpsZWynFY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=wxY/tNXS1A5ejq0jyYzIRTkUeJ0F69O+WH3AICJ5avOX5gbGFBIfT3xBJ5ruB/4J2 TEq20RVX97OPK1RVqwrmBQSjNqP85/wsATmdgPed9xtLB5o+R0SKeNGRMLTmZmDTFe gRBGg1IMZhdlW6RGyeLhI+x9MD/CUqylp4iW9x+g= From: "Kristof Provost" To: "Arthur Chance" Cc: "Manish Jain" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 09:38:45 +0200 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6110) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 07:38:32 -0000 On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request >> to. >> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better >> suited. >> >> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support >> for >> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install >> 12 >> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >> >> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >> period is increased to 3 years per release. >> >> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >> > > The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html > > In particular > > - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous > release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which > consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release. During this > three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will > still > be issued for the previous release, as necessary. > > Why not simply update to 10.4? > FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point I’d recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported version and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the release of 11.2. There should be very few surprised in the upgrade from 10.3 to 11.1 and none in the 11.1 to 11.2 upgrade. Regards, Kristof From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 08:24:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5075FC86FF for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.117.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 602897E87D for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from leaf.local (unknown [88.202.132.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 192E182F2 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 08:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=infracaninophile.co.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/192E182F2; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> From: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <957224c9-c063-f21a-a516-b93815acf0d3@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 09:24:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:24:42 -0000 On 11/05/2018 08:38, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request to. >>> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better >>> suited. >>> >>> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support for >>> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install 12 >>> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >>> >>> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >>> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >>> period is increased to 3 years per release. >>> >>> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >>> >> >> The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: >> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html >> >> >> In particular >> >> - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous >>   release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which >>   consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release.  During this >>   three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will still >>   be issued for the previous release, as necessary. >> >> Why not simply update to 10.4? >> > FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point I’d > recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported version > and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the release of 11.2. > There should be very few surprised in the upgrade from 10.3 to 11.1 and > none in the 11.1 to 11.2 upgrade. There's a working group on release scheduling and support lifetimes planned for during BSDCan next month. The current thinking is that we have two quite disparate sets of requirements amoungst the user base: people that need a long-term stable system for around a 5 year support lifetime -- so only security patches and fixes for major regressions -- plus people that basically want to run something close to the bleeding edge with support for all the latest hardware and performance and other code improvements, which means a new release every few months. Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 09:08:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F03EFCA036 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 09:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F7768B50 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 09:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40009802; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:08:16 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w4B98Gtl022276; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:08:16 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w4B98D1O022273; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:08:13 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:08:13 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: sergio lenzi Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 09:08:20 -0000 sergio lenzi wrote: > Well, you can always go back to the reliable gnome2 now AKA mate > you can use our "distribution" with more than 1800 packages for amd64, Dear Sergio, Does your mate distribution support user swithing (please see the first mail in the thread)? If it does, what display manager does your mate distribution depend on? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 11:21:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E973FCE429 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22e.google.com (mail-it0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E859687448 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luzar722@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id c3-v6so1694698itj.4 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 04:21:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AOhQPw8VdsoHTq/bE3Rh+vv7JIiI7YnCRyz8Rk0L+XA=; b=SLyrkM6EnienYxPFSef1R3BYHEglHVLGMRw2Yk2hLqIG+L+EQwnZZpsBPSSf7xXwrW qCbK9FssT2Z0fP3N7ocd4LsQLwFlnXryshmQanmdXjN2RUDEO0YwGJalilk6HC62JkQa EhKZgwFrhZZxE3eR/lyo4pIVZTEjr9F4OxYNuoS4kAqu5r28IvXl2oQJrpAoCfl8wyp6 oGeFBmWRCZPteQOF/sLSuSrmqLxvO8FnuNmB29VZa7tGEp415907j8HJgFo+45T+iPpE v9XHm2hQMLHtfTsUbi9RI8zcZa0BY2qqpHNdUjsAvTLBDZZpjcmOoim8gvmZ0A4kinTV atlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AOhQPw8VdsoHTq/bE3Rh+vv7JIiI7YnCRyz8Rk0L+XA=; b=IMGKFmHKSp/QNNPeBoEX5lrk93WXqnRdcjCv0uhgDMuaoMW3TGAmbal1hDX+obz4PA FFgRJ0pxOPKBcpv1NoE3//l5ZlrZxoL2zsGtgu6j3EPjEy5VRsJuBHw0HeRGR6R+W21+ m7ZfpB6iURnEU2RLD7o1xNz7jnA7o/fNIdHS0nphSc2iE/7tZkkSH4vG8CMmdBk88doW t33rp2Wvg+xYbll+JEF7uUJ7enMCjpw2WEu2QqTTf16MCz3ID50l1MlWMStShSAYJNEf pyVjUlr15dMwTVNg6Htai68Vf3XuOZodzf75tcPnzClaUqe32Wl+OFa35la8/XOZC//8 TLag== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfd69CMJkAOnM8XcIz2stHIH8aUYJRNe2MTduHCSkrC6cHpg6xR E/FhPsx0Fqti6YIo8YYTYIs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrOMPvuMFDfqFzhy+ynfkenCoRfpac0kJitB3qNlWOmRTXBl8CPopZtFW2vFOvbXZvfHUP1pw== X-Received: by 2002:a24:7d87:: with SMTP id b129-v6mr2584953itc.61.1526037707343; Fri, 11 May 2018 04:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.10.7] (cpe-65-25-48-31.neo.res.rr.com. [65.25.48.31]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f12-v6sm1446182ioj.24.2018.05.11.04.21.46 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 May 2018 04:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5AF57CCB.6010009@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 07:21:47 -0400 From: Ernie Luzar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?5p2O5ZGo5Y2O?= CC: freebsd Subject: Re: How to hide boot console message. References: <061BEC75-786F-4C26-8ABE-0BE2431DA313@icloud.com> <5AF43A6D.90607@gmail.com> <7195A6DB-B366-4334-8917-6565BCDC7FF8@icloud.com> <5AF4EBBE.8080809@gmail.com> <2A1EAD5E-1777-4ADA-B633-EDE5DA429E55@icloud.com> In-Reply-To: <2A1EAD5E-1777-4ADA-B633-EDE5DA429E55@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 11:21:48 -0000 李周华 wrote: > Very thanks Luzar. > > May be I reached the end of the road. > > So be it, I disable the splash feature and allow few message show. > > By the way , where to submit a PR ? > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 12:00:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9738FCFC9D for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 12:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nervoso@k1.com.br) Received: from betasoftsp.com.br (betasoftsp.com.br [177.189.222.85]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "betasoftsp.com.br", Issuer "betasoftsp.com.br" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DE446FB63 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 12:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nervoso@k1.com.br) Received: from BSD1232.lenzicasa (179.184.51.72.static.gvt.net.br [179.184.51.72] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by betasoftsp.com.br (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w4BC0aGN027998 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 May 2018 09:00:38 -0300 (-03) (envelope-from nervoso@k1.com.br) Message-ID: <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? From: sergio lenzi Reply-To: nervoso@k1.com.br To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 08:59:46 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Organization: K1 sistemas X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:00:45 -0000 Em sex, 2018-05-11 às 16:08 +0700, Victor Sudakov escreveu: > sergio lenzi wrote: > > Well, you can always go back to the reliable gnome2 now AKA mate > > you can use our "distribution" with more than 1800 packages for > > amd64, > > Dear Sergio, > > Does your mate distribution support user swithing (please see the > first mail in the thread)? If it does, what display manager does your > mate distribution depend on? > > Hello... the user switching is done not in the gdm, but inside the mate under the "system tab in the" panel, that in this version (1.20) is not avaiable, but I will check the code, may be an option in the consolekit can make it show up.... but if you log out, from mate, you can choose some options in the gdm login, as language, xdmcp, ... the switching you are looking for was available on mate 1.12 I think... the distribution uses GDM 2.18.9 with the full gdmsetup & friends... On NetBSD we use gdm 2.20.11 that is quite the same one... and yes, we have mate 2.19 on NetBSD-8.0 for raspberry pi. some "screenshots" can be seen at: http://www.k1.com.br/screenshots id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker"> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 14:22:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DE5FD71C6 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from mail.robroygregg.com (173-13-147-189-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.147.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95869703AF for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robroy@robroygregg.com) Received: from beak.h.net (beak.h.net [192.168.32.10]) by mail.robroygregg.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0d55bad0; Fri, 11 May 2018 07:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 07:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Robroy Gregg X-X-Sender: robroy@beak.h.net To: Kristof Provost cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Manish Jain Subject: Re: A request for release engineering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:22:01 -0000 On Fri, 11 May 2018, Kristof Provost wrote: > On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: >> On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request >>> to. >>> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better >>> suited. >>> >>> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support >>> for >>> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install >>> 12 >>> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >>> >>> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >>> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >>> period is increased to 3 years per release. >>> >>> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >>> >> >> The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: >> >> > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html >> >> In particular >> >> - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous >> release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which >> consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release. During this >> three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will >> still >> be issued for the previous release, as necessary. >> >> Why not simply update to 10.4? >> > FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point > I?d recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported > version and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the release > of 11.2. I wonder how many other people are like me--planning to "float" from 10.3-RELEASE to 11.2-RELEASE on some computers, just to face the devil once instead of twice (the devil to which I refer's the one who's "in the details" every time I change anything on a server). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 14:41:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFCAFD7FD0 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward105o.mail.yandex.net (forward105o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::608]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1565675B49 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback5o.mail.yandex.net (mxback5o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::1f]) by forward105o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 2A558444779D; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:41:09 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (smtp1j.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:801::ab]) by mxback5o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id bNO3gFVluY-f8M81c7V; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:41:09 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1526049669; bh=nedFk6LlsCM9vt1nln3d/S0g7En37oFg5eL5Zehb7+w=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=wip+K/ZYM0xdx7snVM0zc7TMbkpmoBfkzxLdgmrMeoMwvJWvKONCx2BWTVeXdwlcy FoL+E1aVIq1URMOZrd518jxFXlUCqR6AQMbq1A3rnt0L37nJuTPoh8f6VblmGgMDPi fYvYOKxV5oOJqWanG/8jqDmtyJaPT9UaFosG3xOM= Received: by smtp1j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id oyIdro3KDz-f5P8pYdp; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:41:06 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1526049667; bh=nedFk6LlsCM9vt1nln3d/S0g7En37oFg5eL5Zehb7+w=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=EMMsjtuoUQ7sPmhiOP/lR4tJHfldIVyf6KcqaJspQ/yv8hMU7PhB2zrEoYAh67W8b 7mwUG7vugZGTjoC64td5Neoji8OsSaVi3l8HVEKmNUh7PHnQdINb7GxxATkLtaKtu/ b8cvdZTctngbI5G5SRUlXhA2TR1l5sfpJ1eSBRnk= Authentication-Results: smtp1j.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: Robroy Gregg , Kristof Provost Cc: Arthur Chance , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 20:10:14 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:41:13 -0000 On 05/11/18 19:45, Robroy Gregg wrote: > > On Fri, 11 May 2018, Kristof Provost wrote: > >> On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: >>> On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request to. >>>> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better >>>> suited. >>>> >>>> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that support >>>> for >>>> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install 12 >>>> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >>>> >>>> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >>>> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >>>> period is increased to 3 years per release. >>>> >>>> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >>>> >>> >>> The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: >>> >>> >> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html >> >>> >>> In particular >>> >>> - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous >>>   release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which >>>   consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release.  During this >>>   three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will still >>>   be issued for the previous release, as necessary. >>> >>> Why not simply update to 10.4? >>> >> FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point >> I?d recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported >> version and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the release >> of 11.2. > > I wonder how many other people are like me--planning to "float" from > 10.3-RELEASE to 11.2-RELEASE on some computers, just to face the devil > once instead of twice (the devil to which I refer's the one who's "in > the details" every time I change anything on a server). There is one point on which I request expert advice. Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes sense to upgrade. Instead, one should simply wait till one's release version goes beyond EOL - and then install the latest available release afresh. This is just what I plan on this box (10.3) - wait till November, and then install 12 over the current installation. Exactly when does the upgrade via freebsd-update bring any real advantage to the user ? I see one disadvantage in upgrading - things don't work as smoothly/reliably as with a fresh installation. -- Tx and Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 14:50:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103CFFD8875 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8899D7651B for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 14:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.qeng-ho.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2096910691; Fri, 11 May 2018 15:50:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: Manish Jain , Robroy Gregg , Kristof Provost Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> From: Arthur Chance Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:50:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 14:50:51 -0000 On 11/05/2018 15:40, Manish Jain wrote: > On 05/11/18 19:45, Robroy Gregg wrote: >> >> On Fri, 11 May 2018, Kristof Provost wrote: >> >>> On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: >>>> On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request to. >>>>> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be better >>>>> suited. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that >>>>> support for >>>>> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will install 12 >>>>> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >>>>> >>>>> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >>>>> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >>>>> period is increased to 3 years per release. >>>>> >>>>> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: >>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html >>> >>>> >>>> In particular >>>> >>>> - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous >>>>   release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which >>>>   consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release.  During this >>>>   three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will still >>>>   be issued for the previous release, as necessary. >>>> >>>> Why not simply update to 10.4? >>>> >>> FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point >>> I?d recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported >>> version and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the >>> release of 11.2. >> >> I wonder how many other people are like me--planning to "float" from >> 10.3-RELEASE to 11.2-RELEASE on some computers, just to face the devil >> once instead of twice (the devil to which I refer's the one who's "in >> the details" every time I change anything on a server). > > > There is one point on which I request expert advice. > > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes > sense to upgrade. Instead, one should simply wait till one's release > version goes beyond EOL - and then install the latest available release > afresh. This is just what I plan on this box (10.3) - wait till > November, and then install 12 over the current installation. > > Exactly when does the upgrade via freebsd-update bring any real > advantage to the user ? I see one disadvantage in upgrading - things > don't work as smoothly/reliably as with a fresh installation. > You only need to reinstall packages when upgrading a major revision. Updating a minor revision (say from 10.3 to 10.4) does not require package reinstallation. -- An amusing coincidence: log2(58) = 5.858 (to 0.0003% accuracy). From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 15:18:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06582FD9DE6 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 15:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sysadmin@grouchysysadmin.com) Received: from outbound01.knthost.com (outbound01.knthost.com [209.195.10.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9507A7EC97 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 15:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sysadmin@grouchysysadmin.com) Reply-To: sysadmin@i.grouchysysadmin.com DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 outbound01.knthost.com 1ED103F47A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=grouchysysadmin.com; s=default; t=1526051564; bh=1hkdors/0aXenBxVvVuriZPatRpqcIewVgj7IvijeN0=; h=Reply-To:Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cTc/Z5RKJDj/s4BEOalE0FkSPT2x9obVOoqnTK3laZ9EUuc05OkLPeI0XJHuAyF/4 gtn+YmWXiI4ZSSL4O+DHGv0Rmn8H/8flbfaQ2qPJDXnH2oTFNXpb3KYjeZnMQEPCGJ HWEB3vC24bFv7Gaivyv7yqEdykUX56Cw++JpgYUqaZluzDUi5Ab4CegwjTvDGIs9iL ELrTExxad9KEbYOw9OM1i7c0vWk189+JhC680+FxOSDb6/QogqE04Dc3OnrF7rgnYX s6e0/bTxpWGxaDFy0Jwz2eUfsrI3DIm2v2SPNLjE46bd5+dt8aqEE/7lBG80LQrE6b /eVe+FFxkmYdg== Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> Cc: jude.obscure@yandex.com From: Grouchy Sysadmin Message-ID: <7413e00d-6818-1df8-7454-57d4a3d3f299@grouchysysadmin.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 10:12:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:18:08 -0000 On 05/11/2018 09:40 AM, Manish Jain wrote: > On 05/11/18 19:45, Robroy Gregg wrote: >> >> On Fri, 11 May 2018, Kristof Provost wrote: >> >>> On 11 May 2018, at 9:11, Arthur Chance wrote: >>>> On 10/05/2018 19:15, Manish Jain wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have no idea whether this is the right list to make this request >>>>> to. >>>>> But I could not find any other list that would definitely be >>>>> better suited. >>>>> >>>>> I noticed when trying to build a port under my 10.3 box that >>>>> support for >>>>> 10.3 has now expired. I have no problems with that - I will >>>>> install 12 >>>>> afresh when it becomes available later this year. >>>>> >>>>> But since installing afresh demands a whole effort, I request that >>>>> FreeBSD reduce its new releases to one per year, while the support >>>>> period is increased to 3 years per release. >>>>> >>>>> Does this sound like a good request to others too ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> The FreeBSD support model was announced over three years ago: >>>> >>>> >>> https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2015-February/001624.html >>> >>>> >>>> In particular >>>> >>>> - Each new release from the stable/X branch deprecates the previous >>>>   release on the branch, providing a three-month window within which >>>>   consumers are urged to upgrade to the latest release. During this >>>>   three-month window, Security Advisories and Errata Notices will >>>> still >>>>   be issued for the previous release, as necessary. >>>> >>>> Why not simply update to 10.4? >>>> >>> FreeBSD 10.4 reaches end-of-life on October 31, 2018. At this point >>> I?d recommend an upgrade to 11.1 right now, to get to a supported >>> version and then an upgrade to 11.2 within three months of the >>> release of 11.2. >> >> I wonder how many other people are like me--planning to "float" from >> 10.3-RELEASE to 11.2-RELEASE on some computers, just to face the >> devil once instead of twice (the devil to which I refer's the one >> who's "in the details" every time I change anything on a server). > > > There is one point on which I request expert advice. > > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never > makes sense to upgrade. Instead, one should simply wait till one's > release version goes beyond EOL - and then install the latest > available release afresh. This is just what I plan on this box (10.3) > - wait till November, and then install 12 over the current installation. > > Exactly when does the upgrade via freebsd-update bring any real > advantage to the user ? I see one disadvantage in upgrading - things > don't work as smoothly/reliably as with a fresh installation. > I've used freebsd-update to move machines from 9x to 11.1 without significant issues. Personally, it's a huge improvement and time saver over the source building method. Point release upgrades don't require that you rebuild packages. You could update to 10.4 without needing to install the packages afresh. Only major version changes like 9x-10x, or 10x-11x require rebuilding/installing software. Granted my experience is not going to be the same for everybody, but freebsd-update works as intended here. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 15:30:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6691FDA844 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Elaine.Clayton@hostingintellect.com) Received: from mail.hostingintellect.com (mail.hostingintellect.com [18.194.47.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1312B81B73 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 15:30:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Elaine.Clayton@hostingintellect.com) Received: from mail (127.0.0.1) by mail.hostingintellect.com (127.0.0.1) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.123.3; Fri, 11 May 2018 10:30:10 -0500 From: Elaine Clayton To: X-Priority: 1 Priority: urgent Importance: high Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 10:30:10 -0500 Subject: Find The Best 2018 Customer Message-ID: <395c285e-4fea-48f2-a835-e75f4caa4edd@mail.hostingintellect.com> X-Originating-IP: [127.0.0.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 15:30:25 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 16:51:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DA6FAA798 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B17F7512C for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997A1110219 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 7A38311020B; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Message-ID: <20180511164634.GA19106@geeks.org> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 -0000 On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 08:10:14PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes > sense to upgrade. Instead, one should simply wait till one's release > version goes beyond EOL - and then install the latest available release > afresh. This is just what I plan on this box (10.3) - wait till > November, and then install 12 over the current installation. Do people not generally use binary pkg's? pkg upgrade generally works fine as part of a 10.3->11.1 (or 10.3->11.0) freebsd-update path. It'll automatically uninstall and reinstall the new ABI version packages for you. Granted, my scale makes my local poudriere build server nice, but I don't have that many customizations to my source builds that stock binary builds would work for 98% of my package set. I couldn't imagine rebuilding kernel/packages from ports source as part of every upgrade cycle. My primary home server works just fine with binary updates, binary pkg updates on everything I do there. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 17:04:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F902FABFC3 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:04:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward101o.mail.yandex.net (forward101o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::601]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AAED7952A for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (mxback5g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:166]) by forward101o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id D78DF134203D; Fri, 11 May 2018 20:04:38 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp4p.mail.yandex.net (smtp4p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1402::15:6]) by mxback5g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id ceMigAHNkQ-4cfelq6C; Fri, 11 May 2018 20:04:38 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1526058278; bh=9Cw3XheVc+LuiIrEUgHuGWUC+SNT9BqGFyd52bmg7eA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=tIezLOu9IXBDY8rZGWsCADpkrvg/0a+IfroO5/mMvPh85N3LLl0b6B5tpbcWmfoTk A2Mi2xt9KBybUr9+05dPjtJUrpO39JiRitGkY9RfcZ3q2nilrPT+SmcHQKGUB5taCy dCjVCPWTgIoMXJJ7A0Z4H9cmBPq5fpndcVwbiew4= Received: by smtp4p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 4LBh2CQFud-4aFq6lK5; Fri, 11 May 2018 20:04:37 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1526058277; bh=9Cw3XheVc+LuiIrEUgHuGWUC+SNT9BqGFyd52bmg7eA=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=pFjZJc4TNHlaa62xmm+2yCXWkax2vFuuKcqtTclAoa2ANmZpMbo1qlKwwCHLRrrQk QPQUXNwSMkzsFfJ6LspW/DVBAzUJmi//PgmMEC4FAgA8giuwMZ2nWXnyW9COVwiv9u zibtxX/M3C5lnf40kVdHf7nAMNm1Rvhb/OMAnMGY= Authentication-Results: smtp4p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: A request for release engineering To: Doug McIntyre , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> <20180511164634.GA19106@geeks.org> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <8eb4b2c4-bcdc-9840-8a9d-e36a2ce7de58@yandex.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 22:33:44 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180511164634.GA19106@geeks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:04:42 -0000 On 05/11/18 22:16, Doug McIntyre wrote: > generally works fine as part of a 10.3->11.1 (or 10.3->11.0) freebsd-update path. > It'll automatically uninstall and reinstall the new ABI version packages for you. Hi Doug, I will keep this in mind as a nice tip. I just upgraded 10.3 -> 10.4 Everything is working smoothly. I will experiment upgrading to 11 around the time 12 comes out. If 'pkg upgrade' gets my packages working with 11's ABI, that shall be cool. Else I shall just install 12 afresh. So your notes create an alternative for me. Thanks a lot. -- Tx and Regards, Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 17:55:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F229FAF0A9 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from bca5.email-od.com (bca5.email-od.com [207.246.239.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC1C886139 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1526061329; x=1528653329; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xbUJPWEmtbPmU5CsVNNAOyl/B2y1OopKmHVUXF5rNh0=; b=qT3AlGU9uM4LizXeiJcZWmFvHEMMzaK9LyAZXKQ1JkwPKA6HEGVlzVme+A3r72okSyrZDmdqmvoVsPGkD0FWgG0DnVx7ey3/0IyscZnVPzo90VKwcKCoB+5gR2KbhYqrn+FVB2W1zJIRO2AnzpUwHNxxLRKyjXy2V6ejrlYJ7Ao= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi45YTAwMDAwMDEyYjNhYy5mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucz1mcmVlYnNkLm9yZw== Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by bca2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 13:55:22 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 11 May 2018 13:55:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.90_1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1fHCGC-000GUl-49 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 18:55:16 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Message-Id: <20180511185516.a6d3829768130296180da9e8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 17:55:26 -0000 On Fri, 11 May 2018 20:10:14 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes > sense to upgrade. Doing that is quite a quick operation if you have a good connection and a list of leaf packages to work from. > Exactly when does the upgrade via freebsd-update bring any real > advantage to the user ? I see one disadvantage in upgrading - things > don't work as smoothly/reliably as with a fresh installation. Even on major version bumps there's a whole bunch of configuration (system and ports) which can (usually - read UPDATING) be left untouched with freebsd-update but which has to be recreated or restoed from some kind of archive on a fresh installation. Minor version bumps and patch level increments are (usually) painless with freebsd-update, the latter often not even requiring a reboot just run service -R. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 12 13:51:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9986FDC99E for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866F46BE92 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 13:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E18242E5 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 09:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 12 May 2018 09:51:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zyxst.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; bh=psty9/4W5wiZPy8V+u3BVis+7PrkCt1jMgoBDRojDIw=; b=PFyGP9gX rJWi5Z94rvCuSJw8DOQMzd6cvUHUnVBEvz26bX9CMyKGPlxPehVweoET3JrI6J/q 10t6Nvpn6RXMVd1vi0G5EmhO5Cz9nTibDxDNdplsfY06yDl9tKpnGc7SQwQuDyeA /Bg6pt92kDzQrcYQv7aSRQaIA3f+wwlaDLt7y7aqR3VH3Spfv2pHY3tjsYbiH2HA Lwn8Xj7InPCbKK2udwpJCJ7kLi4yiVLSX2qxIwXMytPND5gFoTaiEZQP4zlZsIi3 qCNbHG1LO/UtMEJKZYd41ETC/EIpboY50hoKfCu/QQzu5mCtlkCT+KZ17fRPFxVQ st+R3DJZWG76cA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=psty9/4W5wiZPy8V+u3BVis+7PrkC t1jMgoBDRojDIw=; b=jPtDwv8XDv7sdgwXBLr8ezj6h0ksejtArXY7aF0hVezpl jiQdxYoMguFmHWr1KsSIMkgu/bqsbxjus+cg8o7EKt5yH2aqCDQz97RFM2KYxatg ckUhg5NI9jsDf4Bh2XBGGJg7019UzK1yIj047ILS8oKxPppGh8WaFOKDbQxaQu4+ /LIOsw0QmoGHdzaurda8frqJ87Bfv4OuCrZIzIYLrzQOXgxvQu8ovi/mARVRBgFB r6Fnld9BAPAzV/+5ArzVT8Ph/JUcry5QsmWvX9QbmNzlGNtVO3ovUl2oCHT7PHC3 hSlMQyrfPtkNNV62NBcYXK6pPS5nsEx3ZePUb3Pew== X-ME-Sender: Received: from desktop.local (parsley.growveg.org [82.70.91.97]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 11527E4365 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 09:51:15 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: tech-lists Subject: swapfile question Organization: none Message-ID: <09eab1d4-3dd8-3530-bdbf-b436ec6aeeed@zyxst.net> Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 14:51:15 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 13:51:18 -0000 Hi, In a SSD/amd64/ufs2/freebsd-11 context, which is faster: 1. swap as a partition on the ssd 2. swap as a file on the ssd If one is faster than the other, why? To what extent? thanks, -- J. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 12 15:39:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DFBFABE4D for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 15:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com (mail-vk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B567B862FD for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 15:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id n134-v6so815247vke.12 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 08:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MdNa/eFV292OnCC9rDfncbmP+s9T9C6kk2EZHJ/LxH0=; b=CA2B+pIisxlN9kanjXNm13yjDp1b6JbX55pR9n8ZZJBHVLCITnXfz/XRsYdOvxzjqb dUTNaMFzM6wJBr9jJIzLyRWi5Tep0BPLffI+oTgJSXnUkdNf0jKIfOC7NMnnkrAA4yoN SNOTR0R9q8uJZ2X9Pdbdc9EcqLV3x9rRfX5HHILQmPfYuRaY7hjSLwqzDmd91VBqpCJQ AL41QeBb13HeFrjfAbY10+Lf3ZLp6pviwhPV3FJIk0+0uaSMW+aKguu4KqurHgH9xeu4 1OT6Gc+Q8uRYzeeAUy9mkgZXiWmQUN28r2UwZeRCPayEVbAzAMsU7zjx4FONfjPavC3X AbOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MdNa/eFV292OnCC9rDfncbmP+s9T9C6kk2EZHJ/LxH0=; b=WIKcNEOwoTEt+14KiPUyj63Jnh3tR98IpNNZjnvFSNAKUjPZzBpYZRKVCsFDTMVRHc vCUTIqsDUw5kZEHEzsdzuXCDlxBd8+eM/nsRjnPLxa8ro+YC203wDAqA6JfrMTWnRUXF uw/K+7ArbaML8EwqdEtKENYR1wzF94OkixtR/Niw+4ddH7n96a//uKxUEkFuFgBl5/wC lGhTQMigbmNDeNnYM9kDB/84Xhjug/Au3YYjMLHOlYFQMe2UwTcs1rW0ED9eTjXgJn1g xMAb2mBTHXJUwBWT31JwwWLzXoyIGcODJu2jAIO0KLbuikdmPEZp0izlSW8Ey+9bSEAK 3azw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdkQoLihPGYg4xdedn1RjEjHyPjqZqEayEvwM8Xmca+ETgILd+t TNW5C8fE/qt/DcMp6B53wWWQfE0eoTmmRqWaePn6DQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZohPRwrT1YLtcYKgk2bqr1ssDkupHy73x2AFcFdlv/wZPpfAgQgZyydjKa59PJ5EqP1gFMAuYC1cmErtUygscs= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:de04:: with SMTP id v4-v6mr5313418vkg.87.1526139592893; Sat, 12 May 2018 08:39:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.21.133 with HTTP; Sat, 12 May 2018 08:39:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09eab1d4-3dd8-3530-bdbf-b436ec6aeeed@zyxst.net> References: <09eab1d4-3dd8-3530-bdbf-b436ec6aeeed@zyxst.net> From: Waitman Gobble Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 08:39:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: swapfile question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 15:39:54 -0000 On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:51 AM, tech-lists wrote: > Hi, > > In a SSD/amd64/ufs2/freebsd-11 context, which is faster: > > 1. swap as a partition on the ssd > 2. swap as a file on the ssd > > If one is faster than the other, why? To what extent? > > thanks, > -- > J. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Don't swap. 1 and 2 are both slower. I use Warren Block's SSD setup and create swap file, seems to work A-OK. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/ -- Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 650-621-0423 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat May 12 16:46:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CFFFB4CF0 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19AC574AB2 for ; Sat, 12 May 2018 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 57878 invoked from network); 12 May 2018 16:46:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=e214.5af71a56.k1805; bh=XSEHseeLw/WB/bln3RlLfCRPUKSMqzOuHTkGgDbIcYs=; b=m45LKUNPlzWqPoxBvKN6v21IFm3Z+U5y01xMNuKU8IswllhKeocy4F9qitRxJSV+n+tNxenxwCP/l02Sb6KQrhxzvjK12/zxwY+bzLm0uQQjTvcySNu7biE3AgxBO5jeU/QWZFNcZ3cfVVhaYSISYsSX62sU0FSoyzJpKTszEER/58l/WqJjA7JIvrjih1B8hM6KPRT9B2xc6jUjxfgb6moeJqcmJXJybSA7wok5KyHTRKq5jLosyFkscnnkf7m4 Received: from ary.qy ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 12 May 2018 16:46:13 -0000 Received: by ary.qy (Postfix, from userid 501) id AD3372675650; Sat, 12 May 2018 12:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: 12 May 2018 12:46:13 -0400 Message-Id: <20180512164613.AD3372675650@ary.qy> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: gobble.wa@gmail.com Subject: Re: swapfile question In-Reply-To: Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 16:46:15 -0000 In article you write: >On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 6:51 AM, tech-lists wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In a SSD/amd64/ufs2/freebsd-11 context, which is faster: >> >> 1. swap as a partition on the ssd >> 2. swap as a file on the ssd >> >> If one is faster than the other, why? To what extent? A partition is faster since using a swap file requires looking up block numbers using inodes and indirect blocks. In the worst case the difference could be 2:1, a block number lookup for every page, typically not that bad but it's always slower. I agree that in general it's better to set up your system so it doesn't need to swap but you always want enough swap to avoid strange program failures when malloc() calls fail. (They're supposed to recover but I can assure you, they often don't.) I have an application that answers network queries from a mysql database. The database is largish, several hundred megabytes, but only changes a few times a day. I rewrote my application so it slurps the whole database into a perl table and answers queries from that. The perl table is bigger than the VM's physical memory so it's mostly swapped out, but using the VM system for disk I/O is faster in this application than calling out to mysql. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly