From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 10:32:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD9716A4D1 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A6F43F57 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:26:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1416271wxc for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:27:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LEuIwNTKyjiLf7jYtK3nug6JBXLQcu7ivuLqQ4QXQRRoPeEXJEmGA2jPwDGufOCd7pqWRKAHQ1jmnBTQdq8FmOhKBt46jdd0Enc1tgHugktFEjtopUFrM50AC62uq86+JbfjRodwx5QIXjToAaNt3QNFAegXbTu5ws9sLPpGXjw= Received: by 10.90.88.13 with SMTP id l13mr6463087agb.1165832863335; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.90.1 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:27:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <576dcbc20612110227gdb2ddb2x9f26cb15923d7e06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:27:43 +0000 From: lveax To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20061106151007.GD23884@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <454E9F7B.5010105@outstep.com> <454EB6D6.3030807@infowest.com> <454EBEEC.1060002@u.washington.edu> <454F210C.9000602@outstep.com> <20061106151007.GD23884@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Cc: Lonnie Cumberland Subject: Re: MAC OS X connection to FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:32:20 -0000 On 11/6/06, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 06:48:28AM -0500, Lonnie Cumberland wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the replay to my post as it did finally occur to > > me that perhaps this question had been asked on the mailing list, but > > unfortunately it occurred to me after I sent it. > > > > So, basically the Apple team took FreeBSD and the CM micro-kernel, > > combined them, made some improvements and added some additional code > > and then used it all as the MAC OS X core (without the GUI of course)? > > Yes, basically. FreeBSD is free for the taking, so Apple took. Steve > Jobs' NeXT team had a lot of familiarity with Mach, so they took from > there also too. A good number of well known FreeBSD people now work for > Apple, there are a number of FreeBSD device drivers shipping with MacOS > X. On a lark I put an Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100B in my G4 Mac and > everything simply magically worked. No driver install, nothing. > who are the people that works in apple and also a freebsd developer now? > > With this being said, then does anyone have any experience with the > > stability and performance? > > Millions of MacOS X users. > > > My guess is that if it is really based upon FreeBSD then the > > performance should be pretty good from my readings about FreeBSD > > compared to other operating systems. > > Having both I'd say not. FreeBSD performs better at most server-oriented > tasks than the non-server tuned MacOS X. Have not used MacOS X Server. > Am not familiar with the tuning tweaks in plain old Darwin. Remember the > MacOS/Darwin kernel is greatly different from FreeBSD. Believe it was > McKusik who said to the effect, "The differnce between Linuxes is they > all have the same kernel, everything else is different. The difference > between BSDs is that they all have different kernels, everything else is > the same." Is not exactly true but contains a lot of truth. MacOS > X/Darwin is a recognized BSD variant. > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net > ======================================================================== > Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >